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When Legalized Cheating Ruled the MMA World 

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@Hellothere854434
@Hellothere854434 2 года назад
Chael got suspended due to a simple misunderstanding of the regulations. He thought if you got caught, you'd be suspended for that DAY, not years. It could have happened to anyone
@Peter-vc6pj
@Peter-vc6pj 2 года назад
FInally some common sense in these comments
@NgenHD1234
@NgenHD1234 2 года назад
Undefeated. Undisputed.
@phuckyou6314
@phuckyou6314 2 года назад
could of*
@rednut6626
@rednut6626 2 года назад
Chael Sonnen would 100% agree with you
@EveOfSpring
@EveOfSpring 2 года назад
@@phuckyou6314 Lol no
@stabyourcat
@stabyourcat 2 года назад
Jon Jones criticizing fighters for TRT is like when Bill Cosby criticized comics for using bad words.
@jundemarco3797
@jundemarco3797 2 года назад
Jon Jones criticizing fighters for TRT is like Jon Jones criticizing fighters for TRT tzzzz.
@stabyourcat
@stabyourcat 2 года назад
@@jundemarco3797 lol fair
@publiusventidiusbassus1232
@publiusventidiusbassus1232 2 года назад
The worst part about Bill Cosby was the hypocrisy.
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 2 года назад
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 Out of all the allegations and proven accusations...he never was accused of using Bad Words.
@stabyourcat
@stabyourcat 2 года назад
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 I wouldn’t say that’s the worst part…. 😏
@OneSlimChance
@OneSlimChance 2 года назад
Chaels levels were 17 to 1? They must've caught him on a low day.
@deadaimcarlos
@deadaimcarlos 2 года назад
Oddly enough, the same ratio as his alleged Loss’s to Draws…
@Jonas-mc5xm
@Jonas-mc5xm 2 года назад
Wasnt Shlemenko levels 80:1? :D
@zackhicks5320
@zackhicks5320 2 года назад
@@Jonas-mc5xm that’s all natural
@zachleprieur2871
@zachleprieur2871 2 года назад
I did a spit take
@wowf0rl1f3
@wowf0rl1f3 2 года назад
And just think, he would have made horsemeat overeem look like a beta all natural on an off day like this 😂😆
@EDsavant
@EDsavant 2 года назад
Pride had "We don't test for steroids" right on the contract.
@publiusventidiusbassus1232
@publiusventidiusbassus1232 2 года назад
The glory days
@jazzabighits4473
@jazzabighits4473 2 года назад
did it? source?
@EDsavant
@EDsavant 2 года назад
@@jazzabighits4473 numerous just look up a lot of videos guys were on there that fought at 170 and they wanted him to fight about 190 and told him to us steroids
@jazzabighits4473
@jazzabighits4473 2 года назад
@@EDsavant but that doesn't mean it's written on the contract? lol
@EDsavant
@EDsavant 2 года назад
@@jazzabighits4473 they all said it did
@jr739
@jr739 2 года назад
14:26 "We would never put together a situation where a fighter has an advantage over another fighter" Dana White talking about TRT Vitor fighting in Brazil but he knew Lesnar was on steroids and still let him fight Hunt just to save ufc 200
@tbriecheese
@tbriecheese 2 года назад
true, dana is a scum... poor Hunt, wish he would've won against the UFC in court
@barrackhussein464
@barrackhussein464 2 года назад
O malley vs Moutinho is a way more relevant example
@vumazwesiziba4103
@vumazwesiziba4103 2 года назад
Top 10 ufc fighters with no combat sport background
@AkinataMoon
@AkinataMoon 2 года назад
That gonna be a good one
@moseshanon7060
@moseshanon7060 2 года назад
This wouldn’t be a thing, ‘cos that wouldn’t be possible.
@vumazwesiziba4103
@vumazwesiziba4103 2 года назад
​@@moseshanon7060 I'm seeing that, but I don't know how to put it. English not my native. How about top 10 fighters who had no combat sport training until adulthood...?
@moseshanon7060
@moseshanon7060 2 года назад
@@vumazwesiziba4103 Nah I understood what you meant. Your English is fine. The point I was making that, it wouldn’t be that many, seein’ as how it’s difficult competing at a high level in MMA, being a beginner as an Adult. The only person that comes close to what your asking for would be Brock Lesnar, and the only reason he became a Champion, was mainly due to steroids.
@SimplySoLeafy
@SimplySoLeafy 2 года назад
@@moseshanon7060 Brock lesnar was a NCAA wrestling national champion that’s what translated well for him during his title run in the early ufc. Steroids were definitely used but wasn’t a determined factor in his title run he dominated with his wrestling & raw size. Nobody had answers then prime Brock now in the current heavyweight division probably barely breaks top 10 depending on his match ups
@superwhiteboy619
@superwhiteboy619 2 года назад
TRT Vitor on Brazil... Basically the only people beating him was JBJ(even then not guaranteed), DC(on a good day), and basically top ranked heavyweights
@josezarate3145
@josezarate3145 2 года назад
Yk, I want to disagree but GOD DAMN. He was a fucking MONSTER. 100% have to agree lmao
@coreyjohnson419
@coreyjohnson419 2 года назад
Anderson Silva and his dick pills would like have a word
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 2 года назад
TRT Vitor is nothing compared to what he was when Couture beat him.
@josezarate3145
@josezarate3145 2 года назад
@@justinlast2lastharder749 id agree, but that experience makes a HUGE difference. It's not just raw physical presence but years of experience among the top fighters that is hard to replicate
@michaelleinbach6249
@michaelleinbach6249 Год назад
If Weidman hadn't waited to fight Vitor for so long Vitor would have beaten him when the fight was supposed to happen. Somewhere between the fight being made and the fight actually happening Vitor lost his extreme Cardio to a point. He tried to come out there and TRT Weidman and almost did. But he ran out of steam too fast.
@randombencounter263
@randombencounter263 2 года назад
Everybody's on steroids. I know that. I been knowing that. - Nick Diaz, prophet
@superwhiteboy619
@superwhiteboy619 2 года назад
Including his teammates (Gilbert and Jake)
@hakr4751
@hakr4751 2 года назад
@@superwhiteboy619 and himself
@superwhiteboy619
@superwhiteboy619 2 года назад
@@hakr4751 I remember Nate "popping" but I didn't know Nick got popped. Excluding weed
@emulation2369
@emulation2369 2 года назад
@@hakr4751 he never looked like he used em, your body will look different if you use em, easily spotted by a person who knows
@kingt0295
@kingt0295 2 года назад
@@emulation2369 nick was a cardio freak running triathlons every minute he might’ve been on something
@carthagegaming5545
@carthagegaming5545 2 года назад
If Chaels T level goes below 15 to 1, he dies. It's as simple as that.
@fresh0678
@fresh0678 2 года назад
He would combust.
@NipplesOfDestiny
@NipplesOfDestiny 2 года назад
The P in Chael's name stands for primobolan, duh
@fresh0678
@fresh0678 2 года назад
@@NipplesOfDestiny I bet uncle Chael has used almost every under the son
@anon2427
@anon2427 2 года назад
If I take the T will you die? It will be extremely painful…
@MrMiguella
@MrMiguella 2 года назад
When Chael tested 17/1 he was actually going through testosterone REDUCTION therapy to try to bring his real T levels down to the legal levels.
@pigeonwheels7207
@pigeonwheels7207 2 года назад
Fast approaching a million subs! Can’t believe you guys aren’t already there! Keep up the awesome content. Also as a paraplegic who’s a huge MMA fan I’d love to see a list of spinal cord injuries or close calls. Bring awareness to it as well as show the risks these fighters take every time they enter the octagon! Absolute warriors.
@drewdickerson8638
@drewdickerson8638 2 года назад
that's a dope idea! no pun intended I promise lol
@melancholymartialarts7095
@melancholymartialarts7095 2 года назад
"raising awareness' is another form of doing nothing
@StLMikie
@StLMikie 2 года назад
How were you injured?
@pigeonwheels7207
@pigeonwheels7207 2 года назад
@@melancholymartialarts7095 in many cases yes it can be. But there are many things people don’t know about paralyzed people, and if more people are aware more people tend to contribute and help. Can say my entire family learned and contributed a lot to spinal cord injury awareness/research and medical contributions because of my accident bringing awareness to a subject we were not educated on at all.
@pigeonwheels7207
@pigeonwheels7207 2 года назад
@@StLMikie I had a snowmobile accident in March of 2019, leaving me paralyzed from just below my chest. Can’t feel or move anything bellow my injury (T6-T7) but I’m grateful to be alive and have my brain.
@AncestorEmpire1
@AncestorEmpire1 2 года назад
Whenever there is a lot of money involved in a sport, cheating is a guarantee.
@User-54631
@User-54631 2 года назад
Not a lot of money in the Olympics but they get on gear.
@LetMeEatDem
@LetMeEatDem 2 года назад
@@User-54631 it’s the highest level of competition. Whenever it’s the highest level of competition, cheating will always be happening. It’s human nature to want to be the best. But also, if you are a top finisher in the Olympics, you would definitely get some money from endorsements and what not.
@AncestorEmpire1
@AncestorEmpire1 2 года назад
@@LetMeEatDem and it pays better when some people take shortcuts to glory.
@GoodStuff1992
@GoodStuff1992 2 года назад
see college sports
@justmarc2015
@justmarc2015 2 года назад
You think MMA fighters make a lot of money? LOL
@macbook802
@macbook802 2 года назад
That's a good video idea, "Fighters That Do Not Cut Weight"
@RMILLSMMA
@RMILLSMMA 2 года назад
Cuing Le... Most Heavyweights... End of video! 😆 Only joking man, good idea.
@seansmith5836
@seansmith5836 2 года назад
Chase hooper, Batman of Texas aka Kevin holland, Sean Strickland. I’m a big fan of guys who fight close to their natural weight. If cutting weight diminishes performance even slightly, imagine all the bangers we’ve missed out on from guys not being 100% leading up to the fight week/night.
@kanyeeast1340
@kanyeeast1340 2 года назад
They should do a separate division, like a legends league where the guys agree to fight each other and everyone’s on TRT. I’d watch haha
@badxradxandy
@badxradxandy 2 года назад
Literally half my gym is on it including myself
@xVDRx
@xVDRx 10 месяцев назад
So... Just normal UFC
@imaXkillXya
@imaXkillXya 2 года назад
MPMD! Never thought I would see Dr Delts in this channel. Laughing face crying laughing face crying laughing face
@badxradxandy
@badxradxandy 2 года назад
Why not he puts himself everywhere
@TheEMFB
@TheEMFB 2 года назад
"Fresh and juicy, ready for the pickin'" made me lose my sh!t completely 😅🤣🤣💀
@youngclueless7364
@youngclueless7364 2 года назад
Dan Le Batard: What do you say to the critic who says 'well Sonnen's just a big-mouth who was in that fight the first time with Silva because his testosterone levels were 4 times higher than they should've been'? *Uncle Chael: I would say, 'Hello'...* Undefeated. Undisputed. 🐐
@fresh0678
@fresh0678 2 года назад
I would also say, Anderson was on everything under the sun as well. He just did it right so he wasn't caught. Uncle Chael got tested on one of his low days
@superwhiteboy619
@superwhiteboy619 2 года назад
Chael would always make that guy look foolish
@WhatAboutZoidberg
@WhatAboutZoidberg 2 года назад
TRTitor was a marvel of modern science and amazing to watch. Forgot Chael was 17/1, classic.
@drunkenmmamaster419
@drunkenmmamaster419 2 года назад
Chael tested positive for 50 times higher than the normal testosterone levels , he said check again that seems too low
@naymael66623
@naymael66623 2 года назад
The way the narrator pronounce the names of brazillian cities always amuses me. Please do more hahahhaha
@bloodsweatandbeers9670
@bloodsweatandbeers9670 2 года назад
Go look at Vitor at 20 yrs old lol. He was a monster. He was stacking most definately back then. He was jacked. Massive traps, neck, chest. He was a massive dude
@theslickrips5904
@theslickrips5904 2 года назад
Well that’s the thing. You don’t have to juice when you’re twenty because you have plenty. It’s when you hit 30s it will start drastically dropping.
@crashstitches79
@crashstitches79 2 года назад
@@theslickrips5904 Giant traps = probably on gear. Why? Trapezius is a muscle that benefits greatly from extra test. Vitor at 19 had the body of a 26 year-old NFL free safety, with traps like giant ribeye steaks crawling up to his ears.
@heath6809
@heath6809 10 месяцев назад
What’s your point? Vitor was on all the juice because testing was super lax back then. Oddly enough he tested positive in Pride when he was still in his 20s. 😂
@artur583
@artur583 2 года назад
😭 seeing Jon bashing TRT users n saying it's not fair....😆 cmon bro
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 2 года назад
I was thinking the exact same thing.
@dsy6238
@dsy6238 2 года назад
Ah yes, TRTor Belfort, one of my favourite jacked up fighters along with James "The Collossus" Thompson (he literally made a guy tap from fear in the cage). *edit* source below for those curious
@Ybby999
@Ybby999 2 года назад
Do you know which fight that was? I wanna see lol
@herrerasauro7429
@herrerasauro7429 2 года назад
Everyone is anxious to see it now
@mitchellhenley6285
@mitchellhenley6285 2 года назад
And James Thompson was not very good with a glass chin 😂
@dsy6238
@dsy6238 2 года назад
@@Ybby999 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y1AqEoqd2Zc.html You're welcome :) As you see it took only 22 seconds
@alugificator
@alugificator 2 года назад
@@dsy6238 Wtf, I'm hesitant to criticize the balls on anyone who's willing to step into a cage, but that was some weak shit. Thompson would've been gassed like 30 seconds later.
@tjcaruthers5593
@tjcaruthers5593 2 года назад
There's an old saying in NASCAR, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Holds true it appears in MMA as well.
@Preso_
@Preso_ 2 года назад
I assume you saw Chaels “think piece” on NASCAR yesterday as well
@Abettergrappler
@Abettergrappler 2 года назад
TrT is a weird one for me. I personally take it and it has changed my life as far as sustained energy levels go. I also consider TrT anything under 250mg a week and there is ZERO chance any of these fighters were doing that. Probably 6-700 a week. At that point it's not TrT but Cycle levels.
@PozzaPizz
@PozzaPizz 2 года назад
Yeah I'm on 100mg and it has changed my life as well, no more anti depressants. Vitor must have been blasting getting close to the fight, probably more than 1k in some instances
@Abettergrappler
@Abettergrappler 2 года назад
@@PozzaPizz That's awesome to hear. Mine was never depression but one day woke up and was lethargic and it didnt get better. I'm on 150 and even when doing 2x a day and water cuts it doesn't compare to most of these guys. Wouldn't be surprised if his test was atleast 2500
@badxradxandy
@badxradxandy 2 года назад
I'm on it and yeah agreed
@matthewhall1467
@matthewhall1467 2 года назад
A legitimate question is how much longer would it had taken for TRT to get restricted if Vitor never exists? Dudes have been blasting Test for a long time, look at Nate Marquardt. But Vitor took that shit to super Saiyan levels
@ddanielbragg88
@ddanielbragg88 2 года назад
Marquardt, Vitor, and Sonnen had to be the most extreme examples. Their performances to a huge nose dive when they couldn't abuse it.
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 2 года назад
Marquardt had inconsistent performances even while on the stuff. One day he'd look like the greatest fighter in his division, then the next fight looked like shit. Take his fights against Tyron Woodley and Tarec Saffiedine, against Woodley he looked amazing and scored a brutal and underrated KO over Woodley. Then against Saffiedine lost in lackluster fashion. Its safe to assume the TRT era would have lasted longer had Vitor not abused it to the extreme. Chances are old man Dan Henderson would have still been consistently winning fights into 2016 and despite being well into his 40's, likely beaten Bisping again. Bigfoot Silva wouldn't have had such a massive fall from grace either.
@Obi-ThreeKenobi
@Obi-ThreeKenobi 2 года назад
If everyone's on TRT, then no one's on TRT.
@YetiMan500
@YetiMan500 2 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 JON JONES TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN UNFIAR ADVANTAGE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@postmadone6886
@postmadone6886 2 года назад
As soon as I read the title I knew it would be about Vitor 😂
@jonathangarcia9559
@jonathangarcia9559 2 года назад
“They’re all on steroids”
@emulation2369
@emulation2369 2 года назад
Most of the actors use roids, and then saying something like - "I gained mass thx to my training and meals" - lol, right 😂
@cajequartz4074
@cajequartz4074 2 года назад
Add the story of Yan and his team travelling to Thailand. Fighters still cheat, it just goes under the radar with not enough strict testing.
@geraldfriend256
@geraldfriend256 2 года назад
It is a game Dana pretends to care and fighter pretend they dont juice. Just dont get caught peeing hot
@dillyDillzmuaythai4life
@dillyDillzmuaythai4life 2 года назад
Don't understand why dan Henderson was on this list he is literally the only fighter that If he doesn't take them he will most likely die he needs them to live literally
@nathanielhampton2559
@nathanielhampton2559 2 года назад
Wait what? Don’t get me wrong I love steroids and want to see a steroid only promotion but I really don’t understand why hendo NEEDS them. What’s going on?
@dillyDillzmuaythai4life
@dillyDillzmuaythai4life 2 года назад
@@nathanielhampton2559 wait what 😳 how big are you muscle wise, and Dan needs them cos he has low testosterone like dangerously low ever since he was kid, it may not seem dangerous but think about it cos it is, he is a dude whos body needs a balanced flow of testosterone us normal guys don't worry about this cos we produce it constantly Dan doesn't produce it at all his body will reject everything male dominant so essentially he won't be manly and sick constantly, Dan takes testosterone not steroids hmm I shouldve explained that more considering this is video about steroids
@dillyDillzmuaythai4life
@dillyDillzmuaythai4life 2 года назад
@@nathanielhampton2559 also what do love about steroids like does it give you rush like a amazing feeling loke what people describe with drugs, like I don't understand them is it cos they make your bigger faster and stronger like what's so special about them I don't get it like with enough work blood sweat and tears you can achieve any level steroids can take you
@chideraalexanderdex547
@chideraalexanderdex547 2 года назад
@@dillyDillzmuaythai4life no not true, with steroids you can be bigger, faster and stronger than anything any man could ever achieve in a lifetime and you make them gains quicker Plus you have energy, feel great and perform great in bed
@nathanielhampton2559
@nathanielhampton2559 2 года назад
@@dillyDillzmuaythai4life I’m not very big. 5’9” 210-220 ish but I had botched surgeries. For me after radiation I can’t produce any testosterone at all. Also almost my entire digestive tract was removed because of mistakes in surgery so I have short bowel syndrome. Short bowel means I can’t absorb much of what I eat especially iron, one of the steroids I need is nandrolone and is prescribed to get iron levels back up. So I’m not really supposed to be able to weigh more than 130-140ish without steroids. I used to get hurt all the time and feel terrible before it. there is no rush or high. The two main things is you BENEFIT from training harder and and harder and you can train for longer and benefit from it, when natural you eventually hit a point where training harder actually becomes detrimental either you start losing progress, getting injured, even lowering your own natural testosterone. MOST people don’t train hard enough or long enough to need it but they think they train harder than they really do, but once you hit a point either you get worse or you need them.Most fighters elite fighters train sooooo many hours and so much harder than most people that it would benefit them much more than normal people. So when natural they can train alot and improve skills but then they won’t be optimally training their muscles, with steroids they wouldn’t need to pick one or the other any more. It would be unfair to have testosterone/other steroids against other people that aren’t allowed to, so as much as I miss fighting it wouldn’t be fair to compete with naturals even if they are better fighters than I am. That’s why I can’t fight, all I can do is lift weight and try to kind of look athletic.
@johngeis9839
@johngeis9839 2 года назад
I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time! Thank you!!
@scrantondangler8068
@scrantondangler8068 2 года назад
You could argue Bisping can only watch this video with one eye due to TRT, and that's insane.
@SkunkApe407
@SkunkApe407 Год назад
Argue? Nah, that shit is all but proven.
@ts0088
@ts0088 2 года назад
What’s crazy is that Michael Bisping never sued Vitor Belfort for taking half his vision away forever. That’s fucked up
@RMILLSMMA
@RMILLSMMA 2 года назад
The cheating is still there, it's just out of the reach of the lower ranked guys now.
@badxradxandy
@badxradxandy 2 года назад
The real cheating is the eye pokes, stalling, things they're allowed to be given a warning for
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 2 года назад
Many of the UFC's top fighters are almost certainly juicing.
@bidensniffed.myballs6894
@bidensniffed.myballs6894 Год назад
"i dont know wtf i just said" has me dying
@magusxxx
@magusxxx 2 года назад
Advantage of taking TRT - When you're asked how many wins you have you no longer stomp out your answer.
@Kris_M89
@Kris_M89 2 года назад
What would happen if fighters were allowed to just take everything instead of banning stuff?
@arikara9966
@arikara9966 2 года назад
There would be many more in octagon deaths
@Kris_M89
@Kris_M89 2 года назад
From fighting or the body failing? If everyone is allowed to take stuff it's their choice if they want to put their bodies through it but 2 guys pumped up on roids & speed sounds like a pretty fair fight.
@arikara9966
@arikara9966 2 года назад
@@Kris_M89 steroids don’t improve a fighter chin Someone would die from a brain injury for sure
@Kris_M89
@Kris_M89 2 года назад
Oh I agree they don't but that's a major point when they say fighter A only won bcuz he's in roids. Roids don't teach you how to throw a bunch or make your chin solid.
@arikara9966
@arikara9966 2 года назад
@@Kris_M89 for sure it’s never the only reason but is a huge factor Added cardio, strength, muscle density is very advantageous
@wowf0rl1f3
@wowf0rl1f3 2 года назад
So fun story, I was on Prednisone for 12 years straight for ulcerative colitis. I got taken off it at 15 and the dosage for the last few years I was on it are insane for me now at 29, 6'6" 250lbs. Made me have super late puberty and I just didn't produce any testosterone or adrenaline until I was 18. Never even had a jump starter and then everything kicked in at once where it was discovered my natural TE ratio is 5/1. It's cause many issues, but my doctor was stunned by it and thought I was juicing, only steroid in my body at the time was anti-inflammatory since I can't take nsaids. Only drugs he found were marijuana and nicotine and tells me to "just be thankful since at 50 my levels will be like that of an average man half that age"
@benjbutton
@benjbutton 2 года назад
Funnily enough, Very similar experience except for Crohn's!
@wowf0rl1f3
@wowf0rl1f3 2 года назад
@@benjbutton ain't that a kick in the teeth, I hope you are doing well my friend
@benjbutton
@benjbutton 2 года назад
@@wowf0rl1f3 Haha yeah, I’m great these days thanks! Had a whole bunch of guts taken out and pred for a long time but all good now! Trying to explain Pred to someone who hasn’t experienced it is not easy. Pleased you too are on the up!
@Floridian_Kole
@Floridian_Kole 2 месяца назад
Tommy the Toe "Toezy" is the only reason i still am subscribed💯
@8301TheJMan
@8301TheJMan 2 года назад
That era from the last 4 years of Pride up to Jon Jones winning the tittle was easily the best era for light-heavyweights in mma, there was such parity with a shit ton of good to great LHW's to boot, and since the LHW division is by far my favorite division - it was pretty much my favorite era in mma in general. Nothing against Jon Jones, in fact i'd go so far as to say he's probably the greatest most well-rounded fighter in mma history, it's just that he was so hyper-dominant that nobody had a shot in hell of defeating him. Whereas instead starting back in 2007 when Quinton beat Chuck to win the UFC belt, over the course of the next 7 LHW championship fights - there were 5 different championship winners, (if i remember correctly). It went from Liddell, to Jackson, to Forrest, to Rashad, to Machida, to Shogun, with only Jackson and Machida successfully defending the belt, (though Jackson got screwed outa defending it for a second time as most certainly deserved to get his hand-raised instead of Forrest, seeing as how he while having def lost the first two rounds - there's no way he didn't do enough to win at least 2 of the last 3, if not all 3 - meaning at worst it shoulda been ruled a draw imo). Back then during the Pride era to and through till the first few years after it was bought out by the UFC when you also had a bunch of new and pretty decently sized promotions popping up - like Strikeforce, Affliction, Dream, One FC, WEC, Bellator, and Elite XC, along with the older M1-Global promotion. None nearlyas big as the UFC, hell - Pride for that matter, but were still a few were far larger than Bellator is now, with Bellator being pretty much the only other decently sized promotion aside for the UFC nowadays. It was so awesome back then with a slew of good to great LHW's with none of them being clearly better than eachother. From 04 to 2011 or so you had the likes of Quinton Jackson, Chuck, Vitor, Shogun, Wandi, Alistair, Hendo, Machida, Evans, Forrest, Tito, Sobral, Mousassi, Little Nog, Thiago Silva, and finally Ricardo Arona, (prolly the most underrated of all of them). Then there was an even larger amount of second tier fighters - from Stephan Bonner, James Irvin, a young Phil Davis, Matt Hamill, Keith Jardine, Cyril Diabate, Luis Artur Cane, Sokoudjou, Matyushenko, Cyborg Santos, young King Mo, Rodney Glunder, and young Jon Jones just to name a few. Finally starting 3 or so years ago we're seeing a return to parity in the division now that Jones was stripped of the belt and has officially moved up to HW, with a bunch of great fighters all with seemingly equal levels of skills and athletic ability to become champ in the newt few years, from Thiago Santos, to Johnny Walker, Reyes, Jiri, Anthony Smith, Corey Anderson, Paul Craig, Jan, Rakic, and of course the current champ - Glover.
@drkseidis8055
@drkseidis8055 2 года назад
Built like a Greek Pantheon is a hilarious sentence
@robertluengas513
@robertluengas513 2 года назад
Joe “Victor Belfort” Rogan.
@AdamBarkerThe
@AdamBarkerThe 2 года назад
That jason voorhees line killed me, great stuff tommy lol.
@bookaufman9643
@bookaufman9643 2 года назад
You're telling me that the Muscle Shark was on steroids? Last guy I ever would have thought of.
@fluffkiller
@fluffkiller 9 месяцев назад
Why is anybody surprised? Our greatest living superhero is Captain America, he’s literally a walking chemical experiment.
@ppoison44
@ppoison44 2 года назад
missing Übereem and horse meat 😆
@thedankswordsmantm
@thedankswordsmantm 2 года назад
Fun fact. You can have 1 bad night of sleep before a Tlevel test and screen for low T resulting and a prescription for TRT. Edit: men who sleep 5hrs a night will have t tests similar to someone 10 years their senior, within days.
@rbo7
@rbo7 2 года назад
You're 40% right. Typically you need 3 low tests to get a prescription. And just a bad night wont change much, you need to not sleep at all, pound sugar an hour or so before the test and exercise like a madman to go from normal to low T levels.
@thedankswordsmantm
@thedankswordsmantm 2 года назад
@@rbo7 I was a little off. Men who sleep 5hrs a night will have t tests similar to someone 10 years their senior, within days. So less than a week of bad sleep. The nature of my point is it would be pretty easy to force low T results if you know the date of the tests.
@eh.meh.493
@eh.meh.493 2 года назад
Dana looked baked af when he said “that’s fuckin weird, huh? Holy shit!” Takes one to know if u get my drift
@michaelgutschow5994
@michaelgutschow5994 2 года назад
Idk if you’ve done this idea yet, but I would love to hear a “Fighters who weren’t loved until they stopped fighting” or “Fighters who’s reputation changed when they retired”. I’m talking about people like Michael bisping: seems like nobody really liked him until he wasn’t fighting anymore now everyone loves him. Daniel Cormier: kinda the same story. Henry Cejudo: king of cringe, now looked at as the lovable uncle that we just want to see more of. Even Chael: a little different but his reputation is totally different after fighting than during. I think it could be a cool topic to talk about and what they did specifically and how that changed peoples minds on them. Could help fighters that are maybe about to transition out of fighting.
@dtx.2146
@dtx.2146 2 года назад
Tommy is the veteran voice of Mma on point😅
@theREALWashcloth
@theREALWashcloth 2 года назад
If it's legal it isn't cheating
@tylerinmotion4075
@tylerinmotion4075 2 года назад
my favorite MMA thought experiment is what vets would dominate if TRT was still legal. aldo would be a MONSTER
@ryanrhoades5922
@ryanrhoades5922 Год назад
There's a huge difference between a guy at 300 and 900 within normal range
@KGMDLeopardFace
@KGMDLeopardFace 2 года назад
4:25 in the video deserved a like. Very well done, made me laugh
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz 2 года назад
I thought this was going to be a documentary about Rousimar Palhares...
@wscsace
@wscsace 2 года назад
Jones talking about people who need it should go become a dad 🤣🤣
@TotallyNotRedneckYall
@TotallyNotRedneckYall 2 года назад
I miss watching roid mutants smash each other, bring back pride fc!
@Ismunoz
@Ismunoz 2 года назад
Video suggestion : 10 times PEDs helped a fighter win a bout.
@extreame7304
@extreame7304 2 года назад
I swear Jon Jones will make any sentence sound like his steroids usage is justifiable
@SuperHoodCat
@SuperHoodCat 2 года назад
Someone needs to start an untested mma promotion. Imagine a league of ubereems and trtors ripping each other’s heads off.
@realelplaga
@realelplaga 2 года назад
"Cheating" is relative. If everyone has access to the same thing and its legal, is it cheating? Lets not forget its not a magic pill that makes you superman. You still have to be immensely talented and work your ass off.
@badxradxandy
@badxradxandy 2 года назад
Exactly. People who know nothing about it think it is everything and can do things it can't.
@saltycomet
@saltycomet 2 года назад
Yeah there's people that think if they were on any PEDs they'd be champion at whatever sport they're watching. Nope.
@Magneticlaw
@Magneticlaw 2 года назад
Though not surprisingly, there are those here on YT (and elsewhere) who think that the "magic' pill, potion, or whatever does all of the work for you. If that were true, then fighters like Brock Lesnar and Jon Jones would be a dime a dozen, rather than the once in a lifetime athletes that they are.
@sndspderbytes
@sndspderbytes 2 года назад
When a person suffers TBI it can damage the pituitary gland and pineal gland that regulate testosterone production and the holy triad adrenaline, dopamine and endorphin. Veterans that are diagnosed with PTSD but don't show improvement after psychoanalysis and thearapy can be checked for TBI by giving them a shot of testosterone. If the veteran has an immediate positive effect it means he had a TBI instead of PTSD. When fighters get into thier mid thirties they get depressed and have less emotional range. Its cruel to not let them take as much testosterone as they need to be happy and motivated. Brain damage can be minimized through testosterone replacement fighters should be able to take as much testosterone as needed. I hate watching fighters become depressed and emotionally flat because they are not allowed to take testosterone its cruel and unnecessary .A lot of these fighters retire and get so depressed and their memory goes and they can't show emotion or if they do its frustrated anger. These people need to be prescribed testoserene and amphetamine and they will snap back their memory comes back they can think clearly again and be productive after a career of concussions and subconcusive abuse. Its not the damage to the brain but damage to the glands within the brain that causes the miserable symptoms. We know what works but doctors will try everything but what we know works. They may eventually get dementia and lose their memory even with the testoserene and amphetamine but not until their in their 60's or older. Assuming they retire from mma by 35 there is no reason for them to spend the next 30 years depressed and unable to remember what they are doing its stupid and cruel not to give them what works instead of all sorts of other things that dont work and never will. Testosterone and amphetamines get the job done period end of story and doctors that are to pathetic to do what works and instead try everything else need to get out of the way and let a doctor who lives in the real world take care of the fighters.
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 2 года назад
@@saltycomet I'm sure PEDs will give you an edge over an opponent that's working just as hard as you or even harder. Allow you to take shots you wouldn't normally be able to take. Allow you to go longer than you would normally be able to go.
@joshwick09
@joshwick09 2 года назад
Finally...Tommy is back!
@pisspratt9002
@pisspratt9002 2 года назад
Let it be known that Jon Jones is taking a hard stance against PEDs! You heard it from JBJ himself! If you take or have taken PEDs you have no place in MMA! What a hero
@gardenboydon
@gardenboydon 2 года назад
one of your best videos! so much good information 👏
@luisenriquepiedra3959
@luisenriquepiedra3959 2 года назад
Your explanation for hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism was actually pretty spot on hahahah
@albinorhino1313
@albinorhino1313 2 года назад
Intro music, thank you for changing it
@bpc1003
@bpc1003 2 года назад
5:18 classic TTTHS analysis, that was fantastic
@michaeljordan3084
@michaeljordan3084 2 года назад
Every one of Fedor’s 3 loss skid...all on TRT. Off TRT Bigfoot looks like a different human being all together. Just saying, facts are facts.
@Khonnell66
@Khonnell66 2 года назад
Agreed. Almost all of Bisping's losses too
@hakr4751
@hakr4751 2 года назад
@@Khonnell66 what about that time he LOST agaisnt matt hamill and was awarded the win?
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 2 года назад
If they were on it then who's to say Fedor wasn't on it? And didn't Dan take it because he literally needs it to live on? That's what I read in a comment under this video. That he has testosterone problems.
@emulation2369
@emulation2369 2 года назад
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu Fedor's body shape, muscles and most importantly his jaw bones would look differently if he would use em, so it's clear to me at least that he didn't
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 2 года назад
Werdum wasn't on TRT, but he was almost certainly on anabolic steroids anyway. Despite Fedor never testing positive however, its also fair to believe that Fedor used PEDs throughout his career. The dude was inhumanly fast and explosive for a man his size and still is today despite his age.
@simphiwemashele9689
@simphiwemashele9689 2 года назад
7:01 the moment this video became supraphysiological
@kielanwade5096
@kielanwade5096 Год назад
We'll look back on the Vitor headkick the same way we look at boxers who loaded their wraps with plaster. He cheated, gave himself a massive advantage, and then disfigured a man permanently
@megamanxhunter
@megamanxhunter 11 месяцев назад
With the UFC's approval.
@bendahova6196
@bendahova6196 11 месяцев назад
12:23 lmao that clip was perfect 😂😂😂😂😂
@nearlnathanearlnearl
@nearlnathanearlnearl 2 года назад
Thanks for changing the music.
@nicholasdonin1465
@nicholasdonin1465 2 года назад
13:49 I have sound deadening headphones and that scared tf outta me
@haleybarrett1995
@haleybarrett1995 2 года назад
TRT-Tor we can rebuild him, we have the technology!!
@maxgarrett8220
@maxgarrett8220 2 года назад
I’m gonna need some of that stuff
@timephire
@timephire 2 года назад
[MPMD has entered the chat]
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion Год назад
Bigfoot Silva should have been granted a therapeutic use exemption. He’s the only one I was on board with.
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion Год назад
He ACTUALLY has serious hypogonadism.
@Abudzin
@Abudzin 2 года назад
Finally some Tommy
@joesalyers
@joesalyers 2 года назад
Holy crap Cus D'Amato just called Conor......Colin Mcgregor 16:45 with a bad English Accent. Those old dudes from Catskill New York are nuts!! HAHAHA!!!!! I have to subscribe now!
@robertburk5550
@robertburk5550 2 года назад
Lol #1 place always listed is Nevada, the one place we all know has never had corruption or scandals. 🤣
@Invisob
@Invisob Год назад
Oh Jon. Stop it you 😂
@JAKEBB
@JAKEBB 2 года назад
Ohhh that intro was awesome. That music was 🔥🔥 tommy toe hold killed it. Brilliant job mma on point, brilliant job.
@hardnewstakenharder
@hardnewstakenharder 2 года назад
TRTor is the greatest middleweight of all time, FYI.
@MartyC89217
@MartyC89217 Год назад
2:00 R.I.P. Elias Theodoro🕊🙏🏽
@kingslayerdamocles3019
@kingslayerdamocles3019 2 года назад
Omg 14:59 everytime i see her all i can think is "can you read or speak english" to king mo.
@joeykimble62
@joeykimble62 2 года назад
4:25 idiopathic just means there is no known cause. so you could have idiopathic gastritis = inflammation of the stomach with no known cause. So the doc is saying there isn't any obvious reason these fighters have low T levels. In those situations it's not uncommon for Doctors to slap the idiopathic label on the condition when they can't figure it out.
@garageink74
@garageink74 2 года назад
You slip Dr Steven Brule in the video, I press like.
@77jesseday
@77jesseday 2 года назад
CTE isn't linked to T Levels because CTE isn't diagnosed until the patient is autopsied.
@hollowpoint8261
@hollowpoint8261 2 года назад
Legalized cheating still rules the sport, it's called water weight cutting, then ballooning up 20-30 lbs higher than the weight limit
@anuscrumbler
@anuscrumbler 2 года назад
Yet the mma world is bagging Conor for wanting to fight at WW.
@bigcncguy
@bigcncguy 2 года назад
Yeah but everyone does it
@icantthinkofacoolname1308
@icantthinkofacoolname1308 2 года назад
Weight cutting is not "legalized cheating" and I'm sick tired of people saying it is Choosing what weight you fight is your choice and all fighters are built different some people can just cut better than others and be Fine and if a fighter knows they shouldn't be fighting at a certain weight because it feels like death that's on them and they need to move up before something bad happens to them
@PrinceIsot
@PrinceIsot 2 года назад
If everyone is doing it in every division the benefit is non-existent....
@superwhiteboy619
@superwhiteboy619 2 года назад
@@anuscrumbler that's because McGregor would get destroyed by pretty much every top contender there
@SuperPeterok
@SuperPeterok 2 года назад
Why wasn't Randy Coutures loss to Josh Barnett ever overturned?
@superwhiteboy619
@superwhiteboy619 2 года назад
Nope
@TheMightyGumball
@TheMightyGumball 2 года назад
It's hilarious how you mention that the NFL wasn't lenient on allowing TRT TUEs, when they're representing the sport that's probably the most riddled with steroid abuse....
@traviswright7628
@traviswright7628 2 года назад
Right?!? And there is virtually no punishment for those who do pop. Shit Josh Gordon got suspended for years for the devil's lettuce but repeat steroid offenders get what? 4 games and no one bats an eye
@SenorGassen
@SenorGassen 2 года назад
They just got the money to be good at it lol
@RenzDavis
@RenzDavis 2 года назад
What we got: Tommy on MMA on Point. What we need: TTTHS
@keepitfuknmetal
@keepitfuknmetal 2 года назад
TRT Belfort may have honestly been the scariest fucking human being to have ever lived
@deadsi
@deadsi 2 года назад
Great video, you should do more like this, the list stuff is boring
@kday6340
@kday6340 2 года назад
Hyper-gonad...pretty sure that was a dragon ball character. 🔥
@MorethanGUNZ
@MorethanGUNZ 2 года назад
Unreal content!!!
@guillermoplatero9766
@guillermoplatero9766 2 года назад
People always talk about vitor being on that shit but they were so many fighters on that Forrest griffin, randy couture, vitor was at least honest about it.
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