Absolutely. They love to say that you always want to start a argument, but how is stating facts and trying to get to the bottom of something by communicating to Resolve the issue. A argument? They like to deflect and jump to another topic. They don't like accountability. They just want whatever you are saying to go away. They don't want to talk about it because. It's about them.
Or they may use "I felt bullied" when "you were raising your voice" mean while they are the perpetrator or better yet the guilty party! They try to flip it around to blame you!
It's very important to have boundaries set for yourself and know who you really are, and also don't put out more than you're getting back in return in a relationship. The minute you pick up on any kind of disruptive behavior from someone and you know that you're not willing to tolerate it, get rid of them immediately don't give them a second chance don't second guess yourself.
Quinn this happened all the time with the narc. He would say I spoke to him like he was a child. Not true. He would say to me I wasn’t his mother. Manipulation on top of manipulation. Years after discovering your channel, you are still validating that I was not crazy and everything he did was strategic. Blessings to you and this community.
What you described in the beginning is definitely called gaslighting. It's their go-to tactic! I've seen videos of yours go more in depth on this and they were a big help!
Whenever you confront them, they have to go wild. They need to make you feel unhinged, overly sensitive, you're imagining things, something is wrong with you emotionally, you need help. I dont argue, I pretend to concede. I pretend that yes, maybe I am not correctly perceiving things. This gives them dupers delight because they are getting away with the con, and they view you as a fool. This calms them down. Then once the danger has passed, I remove myself from that dangerous situation and never deal with them again. It leaves them very confused, because the last they knew, you bought into the con. Honesty and being earnest gets you no where with a narcissist. Sometimes you just have to play the fool. Pretend to be confused when you have absolute clarity of mind. Pretend to be weak when you are strong, and never let them know.
SO TRUE 💯 and that’s a hell of a thing when someone has you doubt yourself and the whole time my intuition and inner spirit was telling me everything about it was wrong. I know not to ignore it ever again, though, and I’ve learned that lesson to see people for who they really are once that mask comes off💯🤦🏽♀️✔️🙅🏽♀️👿💩
Holy crap. This happened the other day and I found myself in a heated debate over a topic I KNOW I was right about. I stopped myself mid debate and looked at him and said... wait... are we really doing this right now?! You KNOW what I'm talking about, cut the shit! His energy immediately changed. His behavior... not so much. Just call that shit out right then and there. Don't engage in the mental gymnastics 🤸♂️
Or they agree with what you say and use self-deprecation to manipulate you to forgive them. The attention is back on them and building up their self-esteem and fragile ego, instead of correcting the issue, so they can continue doing what they have been doing all along.
My ex Narc use to do that. He would try to act like everything was either my fault or OUR fault 🤔🤣 I would tell him straight up.. Naw that’s your fault 😂. Guess what he said about the smear campaign!! “We talked about each other!!” I was like the nerve 😂 he couldn’t manipulate me so he constantly tried to triangulate me. We had 2 cycles and when that 2nd NS came on the scene.. I did just what you said and used that time to exit. But guess what him and the NS started harassing me night and day.. 😂 I went back and forth at 1st but I’m like wtf am I doing. I changed my number and moved. This dude was a straight up text book narcissist.. and not worth my energy. I cut that shit completely off
It’s so sad to me how many young peoples live’s these pretors effect!! This is coming from someone who has been protected my entire life until I identified the demon and got out… We should cover this topic in school’s. Unfortunately, we need to protect our youth from these pretors who think there cool and take advantage of everything, everything ☮️🙏
It's really hard when they are on their perceived best behavior for the first several months of the relationship, then one day, a few years into the relationship, you realize those patterns that you are talking about. It really doesn't get better from there. I think this time around that I am dealing more with a person with BPD than classical NPD, though I am not a psychology student. The patterns seem fairly the same across the manipulator board😐
Excellent video! 😃❤👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽This man knows what he is talking about. I saw all these patterns from my ex- narc. Wow….😮 I’m learning so much from Quinn. Thank you Sir .😊❤️KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The only apology I ever got after 18 years of marriage was when she hoovered me after 2 years we were separated. She said “ I’m sorry for MY part”. 🧐didn’t sound like an apology at all.
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽!!! Fantastic Breakdown of The Games and Manipulations these Narcissists and Toxic people play. #YouARETeachingProfessorQuinn✍🏽👌🏽👏🏽💯🙏🏽 #PhenomenalPresentation🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 #ClassIsInSessionFolks🧏🏽♀️
⭐ A HIT HOME CONTENT ⭐ ⭐⭐⭐ . 1 ) " FACTS ALWAYS OVER RIDES FEELINGS " . 2 ) " PATTERS DO NOT LIE " . 3 ) " WHAT STARTS THIS WAY , IS A BAD SIGN " . 👇 ( I KNEW IT SINCE THEN , EVEN IN MY COLLEGE DAYS ) . WHAT , WAS THE CONVERSION IN BETWEEN TWO OF US , WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR , TO BOTH OF US , & NONE OF US , HAD ANY DOUBT IN IT , ( & ALSO NONE WAS PRESENT THERE , EXCEPT TWO OF US ). SO , WHY SHOULD I , NEED TO REDEFINE IT NEXT TIME AGAIN , & GIVE ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON IT , TO THAT NARCISSIST ? AT MY THAT VERY AGE , I DECIDED TO AMPUT THE NARCISSIST FOREVER , FROM MY ENTIRE LIFE SPAN . 🎲 .