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When the Italians get NERFED - Italian Ariete & Variety - War Thunder 

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Over the last few years, the Italians in War Thunder have been receiving gradual nerfs, to the point that they no longer have a Top Tier Tank, for now.
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@Lynxium_
@Lynxium_ 2 года назад
Fun fact: the PSO is missing 300 horsepower, and the WAR kit is supposed to give a lot of kinetic protection, but doesn't because Gaijin
@markjackson7650
@markjackson7650 2 года назад
Like the chally 2s Dorchester block on the lower plate adding virtually fuck all protection from apfsds same as the Dorchester side armour... Coz gaijin
@fabihubi622
@fabihubi622 2 года назад
It's time for someone to leak classified information about the Ariete tanks
@ishiddddd4783
@ishiddddd4783 2 года назад
the PSO isn't, they are still equiped with the same 1300hp engine, the AMV is the one equiped with the 1500hp engine
@anthonyyu7013
@anthonyyu7013 2 года назад
@@ishiddddd4783 On the forum it was mentioned that it had a 1600hp.
@ishiddddd4783
@ishiddddd4783 2 года назад
@@anthonyyu7013 ok? The forum can also say the ariete has better armor than the M1A2 and it won't be true, the new engine was supposed to be fitted on the now cancelled C2 ariete, after that all upgrades got applied to the current models with the pso and war kits, and only the AMV is fitted with the newer 1500hp engine, no such thing as a 1600hp engine on an ariete exists
@magnum6763
@magnum6763 2 года назад
Id like to point out something more outrageous than the YS being at 9.7; The G.91 R/1 is at the same BR as the G.91 R/4. The R/1 gets AS-20s and only 2 of them, whilst the R/4 gets 4 AIM-9Bs or 4 AS-20s. AND the R/4 gets 4 M3 .50 cals with those AIM-9Bs. Mainly because the R/4 is a premium and expensive. very fun gaijin, very fun
@Roope00
@Roope00 2 года назад
The R/4 in the Italian tree is a Portuguese modification which was equipped with Sidewinders. The German R/4 having Sidewinders is ahistorical.
@magnum6763
@magnum6763 2 года назад
@@Roope00 was commenting about the italian tree, and how the TT one is at the same BR as the premium one
@F-4E-58-MC
@F-4E-58-MC 2 года назад
@@Roope00 Source?
@Roope00
@Roope00 2 года назад
@@F-4E-58-MC More like lack of source, I'd ask you to find a source for Germany equipping Sidewinders on their G.91s.
@t_k_o_l
@t_k_o_l Год назад
It’s not because it’s expensive that they give it an advantage. It’s because the new players buy a top tier premium, play like total apes and lower it’s K/D and W/L ratios, and then Gaijin, who balance vehicles based entirely on their player stats bump it down to lower and lower BRs. p.s. pretty much the same applies to all the high tier premiums and the entire German tech tree xdlmao
@hesh7754
@hesh7754 2 года назад
As an Italian main, my First Nation and only top tier, air and ground. I’m sad gaijin neglects Italian players, the tanks and the planes. Hopefully they add sub trees like Brazil or Hungary in the future. I’m hoping for the B2 Centauro.
@marekmazurek98
@marekmazurek98 2 года назад
It's not worthy to spend time and money on a nation with whole entire 6 players
@a_stone
@a_stone 2 года назад
@@marekmazurek98 Doesn't matter. They put the italians in, they have an obligation to look after those players. If they didn't want to support them then they shouldn't've put them in.
@Chronesys
@Chronesys 2 года назад
@@marekmazurek98 the least competitive nation is the least played i wonder why.
@jacoproita9010
@jacoproita9010 2 года назад
@@Chronesys maybe not at top tier, but at 3.3, 3.7, 6.3, 7.7 (and 10.0 too cuz of the Ariete (p), my beloved) its one of the best imo, also if Gaijin gave attention to Italy, it would be much more competitive, i wish they would add the A-11 ACOL for CAS for example
@Chronesys
@Chronesys 2 года назад
@@jacoproita9010 I'm at 8.7 going to 9 and i have not really enjoyed the grind. Honestly i too think that the Ariete P is good, too bad italy didn't have many 10.0 veichles to form a lineup, you have to use some 9.0
@revolverDOOMGUY
@revolverDOOMGUY 2 года назад
Italy is now completing the Ariete AMV project (Ammodernamento Mezza Vita- Mid Life Upgrade). The Ariete recived a new 1500 horse power V12 engine and a new aiming device, so maybe Gaijin could add the Ariete AMV as the top tier variant of the tank.
@hesh7754
@hesh7754 2 года назад
I thought it was 1300hp at 2500rpm
@CriscCiaddu
@CriscCiaddu Год назад
-The AMV program has been renamed "Ariete C2 program". The improvements of the C2 Ariete program are: 1) 3rd generation optics for commander and gunner. 2) Combined WAR armor and new PSO armor(and not like the old prototype of the PSO used in Iraq 20 years ago). 3) 1500hp engine 4) New transmission and tracks 5) Turret cal. 50 remote 6) APS system(possibly visible in the 3rd prototype of the C2 Ariete, otherwise it will be installed in a separate program). 7) GPS and C2N/BFSA capability. 8) New Smoke Grenades. 9) New Tracks 10) Jammer Guardian H3(C-IED) 11) New ballistic shooting calculator 12) Driver's cameras. 13) 100% electronic turret rotation system(more safety for the crew). 14) 120/L45 Cannon of the Centauro B2(There is a good chance it will be installed).
@fatguysrule5892
@fatguysrule5892 2 года назад
As someone who got into Italy for the Ariete and their firepower, nothing makes me more sad than grinding to the Preserie and not being able to ever use the old round. Please Gajin, give us Italians something
@ishiddddd4783
@ishiddddd4783 2 года назад
that's the issue, they can't, the best thing italy can get besides some variants of tanks they already have is the AMX intl AMX for a ground pounding, besides that italy is screwed in ground
@fatguysrule5892
@fatguysrule5892 2 года назад
@@ishiddddd4783 I was referring to wanting tanks which there are options but whether they're good or not is another thing. Plus, the Italian armor is not modeled correctly and could go with a buff. Then again, which country is modeled correctly?
@Chronesys
@Chronesys 2 года назад
@@ishiddddd4783 Gaijin can always lowering the br, giving it better shells and/or buff the warkit because atm is less effective than rubber and his whole purpose is to giving more protection against Ke shells
@Lynxium_
@Lynxium_ 2 года назад
@@ishiddddd4783 Actually, the ariete pso is missing 300 horsepower and the WAR kit should actually work against kinetic rounds
@gman5787
@gman5787 2 года назад
@@Lynxium_ what is a war kit ?
@topomanist
@topomanist 2 года назад
Hey, Justin, thanks for all your hard work and content, you're my favorite WT content creator... thanks to your videos I almost get a nuke on top tier lol
@ODST_Parker
@ODST_Parker 2 года назад
It's very sad that the only top-tier MBT Italy could possibly get at this point (unless Minor Axis goes to ridiculous levels) would be the Ariete AMV, which is still a prototype last time I checked. We do have a few high-tier MBTs left like the Leone and OF-40 variants, and some top-tier auxiliary vehicles like the Centauro II and Draco, not to mention the Freccia which could have Spikes. Here's hoping Italy blossoms at some point, but it doesn't look good right now.
@a_stone
@a_stone 2 года назад
It's pretty simple, gaijin just has to stop fucking italy in the arse for no reason and give them decent composite armour, and fix their stupid formula they used to calculate solid shot AP pen because it doesn't account for density which artificially nerfs CL3143/M322.
@Chronesys
@Chronesys 2 года назад
The ariete with the Hitfact 2 turret is also a possibility. Still no armor but at least it should have centauro 2 level of firepower
@ODST_Parker
@ODST_Parker 2 года назад
@@Chronesys Right, forgot about that. Ariete with even more paper armor, but with more modern fire control and all that. Yeah, but I guarantee that'd be an event vehicle, not a new tech tree top-tier vehicle.
@Chronesys
@Chronesys 2 года назад
@@ODST_Parker Also centauro 2 optics and thermals. An event veichle ? Please no
@ODST_Parker
@ODST_Parker 2 года назад
@@Chronesys Ariete already has second generation thermals, if the Centauro II is somehow better that wouldn't be too big of an increase. Yeah, it probably would be. That exists only as a very limited test bed for the turret, not as a production vehicle meant to go into service.
@williamjordan5446
@williamjordan5446 2 года назад
Thank you for covering the ariete, I have been waiting for people to see the problems with top tier italy
@Abstrakt-1
@Abstrakt-1 2 года назад
20-30min videos from you are personally fun. More funny commentary and gameplay from you is all the better 👍
@meVladowski
@meVladowski 2 года назад
I actually enjoy your long videos with lots of action going on rather than watching a video that has like 2-3 minutes of actual combat action and 20 minutes of talking and driving around the map. Much love
@tizanikandothers
@tizanikandothers 2 года назад
As an italian let me say OMFG FINALLY someone that actually plays Italian tanks I really enjoyed this video thx (or grazie in Italian)
@user-hs1dk3rb6c
@user-hs1dk3rb6c 2 года назад
Thanks so much for using Italian vehicles. I love the tech trees
@imaflyingturkey
@imaflyingturkey 2 года назад
i wish that the arietes got the M338 round even if its historical just to give italy something nice
@Regimentz.
@Regimentz. 2 года назад
Oh Justin, don't feel like you're a crappy youtuber. You're amazing. Best war thunder content creator I've seen in a while. Your commentary is what kept me engaged to your videos!
@loiccardenas3980
@loiccardenas3980 2 года назад
Love this type of video focusing a bit more on the lineup! Hopefully you’ll want to do more of this.
@larryking7
@larryking7 2 года назад
You are my favorite CC, you always have a full line up ;) I’m actually grinding Italy, most fun tier in Ground RB is 8.7.
@mediocreplays5947
@mediocreplays5947 2 года назад
Thanks for doing a video on my favorite MBT to play in warthunder, I really enjoy your videos man keep up the good work.
@banggobang5148
@banggobang5148 2 года назад
Don't feel bad Justin, you are a Very Great content creator. I enjoy your gameplay and how you talk, it is true that sometimes I'm not watching the video till the end because of something.... But sometime later I always finished the vid😅
@hexo1580
@hexo1580 2 года назад
I was literally thinking of you putting out a video on this tank yesterday
@lumpyhumpypowa713
@lumpyhumpypowa713 2 года назад
Pokimon Go well one day bring back world peace
@dragoneye0979
@dragoneye0979 2 года назад
The reduction in pen for CL3143 wasnt accompanied by a BR decrease. Ariete was 11.0 for maybe one br change cycle but then it went back down to one notch below absolute top tier (they were 10.3 when 10.7 was the top br). Point being gaijin wouldnt ever be so kind as to compensate the arietes with a buff to compensate for their (admittedly historically accurate) nerf
@katerinamalkova1126
@katerinamalkova1126 2 года назад
This thing also has a repair cost equivalent the 2A6.
@yusufedhem5550
@yusufedhem5550 2 года назад
I love your videos, I watch every single second of them keep up the work
@LILKRANKIN
@LILKRANKIN 2 года назад
I actually prefer longer videos. Sometimes I watch your vids and feel like they’re too short 😂 But the quality is on point as always. Keep up the good work!
@johnmatthewgrapa8644
@johnmatthewgrapa8644 2 года назад
Finally some Ariete love! As always great vid Justin!
@katerinaglynou1972
@katerinaglynou1972 2 года назад
6:36 i swear there was a helicopter passing by my house exactly when you said that
@konteen2666
@konteen2666 2 года назад
why nerf ariete tho
@meinfraulein6902
@meinfraulein6902 2 года назад
the only top tier vehicles italy is going to get if gaijin decides to add them would be the draco which had a wooden mockup turret to my knowledge and the centauro 2, maybe the dardo and freccia if they give them spike missiles in the future.
@daddyhogan9241
@daddyhogan9241 2 года назад
i enjoy the longer vids keep it up❤️
@richb3286
@richb3286 2 года назад
27 minutes is perfect! I need something fun to watch while eating dinner!
@PotatoeJoe69
@PotatoeJoe69 Год назад
Italy was definitely up there when MBT's first came out. But Italy has been beaten with a nerf bat, and we haven't gotten shit in years.
@wafflesheep2087
@wafflesheep2087 2 года назад
There are so many jets with an undeserving high repair cost, meaning they dont get used much at all
@mopy121
@mopy121 2 года назад
Im a bit late but I just wanted to say I always watch your vids to the end Justin, its quality content from start to finish 💯
@hexo1580
@hexo1580 2 года назад
You should do more of these types of videos by the way!
@johnmcmillan9750
@johnmcmillan9750 2 года назад
I really enjoy the long videos you make man. Happy 9%er lol
@slothsdontsleep
@slothsdontsleep 2 года назад
Honestly if you want to play mbt theres no point in going italy, play italy if u want wheelie bois like centauro, no point picking italy for a basic mbt. great vid justin :D
@captainfactoid3867
@captainfactoid3867 2 года назад
I really want the AMV to be added to the game. And a KE correction for the add-on turret armor
@CriscCiaddu
@CriscCiaddu Год назад
That's right, IMHO I believe the WAR Armor is similar to that of the Leopard 2A5
@evo3s75
@evo3s75 2 года назад
Hey Justin, could you maybe do a revisit of the T-64A (or B) since it's a few months/year? :D
@acolbymyers
@acolbymyers 2 года назад
tank battle ratings as far as RB tanks goes is so horribly compressed right now and it will never really end at this rate of vehicles being added almost as a way to make money from monetized events and premium/squadron vehicles
@leto1609
@leto1609 2 года назад
A question Justin, you always are able to hear where the enemy will come and mostly how far he is away xD Which setup for sound do you use? I use a razor kraken with 7:1.....but I have many problems hearing directions or only engines. Greezings from germany
@theredcoat_menace
@theredcoat_menace 2 года назад
Loved the variety style play.... and your damn right I sent you a pokemon go friend request lol
@xueroger678
@xueroger678 2 года назад
16:15 would you rather have a G.91 YS or a CL-13 Mk.6 given both of them have only AIM-9Bs?
@levismith7423
@levismith7423 2 года назад
Sea venom stock 14k at 7.7 and it's engine it's slow acceleration even for early jets
@logannicholson1850
@logannicholson1850 2 года назад
Italian top tier is sad and traumatic experience the OTOMATIC and Centauro 120 are the only vehicles that are decent
@stevenholsinger4899
@stevenholsinger4899 2 года назад
Hey Justin, would you consider taking a look at the swedish Strf-9040 BILL? It's been moved from 9.7 up to 10. 0 and I think it would be interesting to hear your thoughts upon the said change.
@Northern00
@Northern00 2 года назад
Personally, I ran it at 10.0 anyways, cuz Sweden has an excellent 10.0 lineup, but no 9.7. So it makes sense in my eyes if only for the lineups.
@THR1VE_
@THR1VE_ Год назад
you should make another video now on gaijins hatred for italy in the game
@Kaijiro____93
@Kaijiro____93 2 года назад
Does it also mean they may introduce a premium Italy top tier tank next Battlepass or major update?
@crazyadam9281
@crazyadam9281 2 года назад
I'd love to see that because anything would be better then what the current BP has offered.
@VEIOdoWT
@VEIOdoWT 2 года назад
Italy need subtrees, brazil and húngary is best exemple
@emaacqua2163
@emaacqua2163 2 года назад
Italy need more Italian vehicles, and then maybe the sub tech-tree
@Northern00
@Northern00 2 года назад
I think a lot of vehicles from nations like that could be added to boost both Italy AND France, especially Brazil and some joint Italy-israel projects like the 60mm HV guns
@charlzgormanov8430
@charlzgormanov8430 Год назад
Romania would be good too.
@BasTSLA
@BasTSLA 2 года назад
please make update video on the Tiger HAD
@jnxshorts8353
@jnxshorts8353 2 года назад
You got that amazing skin on the ariete that looks just like the real thing,gosh i wish we could had those skin on console -_-
@mr.abrams8112
@mr.abrams8112 2 года назад
Its so bs how the abrams engine is so loud, even tho it should be very quiet
@Northern00
@Northern00 2 года назад
This thing is so frustrating at 10.7 alongside the Leopard 2PL and M1A1 AIM, despite being worse in EVERY way. RIP Italy
@reyreeey
@reyreeey 2 года назад
"Good kill" after getting killed by a Ka50 still on the helipad I dunno about that chief
@alessandromazzini7026
@alessandromazzini7026 2 года назад
you should try the prmeium mangusta, still 10.0 as the cbt, no flare/chaffe, no 20mm no AAm... gaijin guys (not forget the G91YS still 9.7 and the sagittario2 still 9.0 for some reason)
@thecrab2791
@thecrab2791 Год назад
I own the premium mangusta, and although it is flat out worse than the CBT it is still so stupidly strong. Every time I take it out, an ace is basically guaranteed because of how brainless atgm helis are
@karenlusk2604
@karenlusk2604 2 года назад
I watch all your videos till the end
@joestueckrath5275
@joestueckrath5275 2 года назад
Spicy meatball dispenser
@rexw2203
@rexw2203 2 года назад
Justin, I like the variety of other vehicles with a focus on the one like you did with this video. make'em long videos if you have to, I've got no problems with longer videos. yeah, as long as Russia mains get the E-Z mode I'm giving them NO SLACK at ALL! The ammo that doesn't explode, the KA-50 spam, the TURMS spam that is far too survivable, 2S6's that are ADATS on STEROIDS...done with handling them with kid gloves. Spawn camping them, just like they will me if they're teamed up with the Germans within 2 minutes, at all times for no reason at all.
@marlonthebro5521
@marlonthebro5521 2 года назад
A Ka50 at the day keeps the fun away
@bananabatsy3708
@bananabatsy3708 2 года назад
So basically this is a Challenger 2.
@WSSRIOTCONTROL
@WSSRIOTCONTROL 2 года назад
You telling me you skipped spot light hour yesterday in which you could get 1125 star dust per catch!
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV 2 года назад
I never got the notification for it D:
@rodertcortese252
@rodertcortese252 2 года назад
I will always play Italy
@derhasso6123
@derhasso6123 2 года назад
i kinda don't care how bad the italians are, the Ariete just looks SOOO good
@Catholic_Papalist_Hunter
@Catholic_Papalist_Hunter Год назад
Gajiin hates Italy
@manosrounakis
@manosrounakis 2 года назад
Italians need new tip tier jet!! Soo... Where is the tornado!!!
@javidbazri5235
@javidbazri5235 2 года назад
best vid loved it
@invalidcreations
@invalidcreations 2 года назад
They fixed Hellfires this patch so you might want to recheck them
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV 2 года назад
If they fixed it within the last 12 hours I'll be shocked...
@invalidcreations
@invalidcreations 2 года назад
@@JustinPlaysTV they upgraded the explosive mass
@benjaminorellana4310
@benjaminorellana4310 2 года назад
Eres el mejor youtuber de Warthunder pelao
@Yabaiohazard
@Yabaiohazard 2 года назад
They deserve some love
@alanchan12411
@alanchan12411 2 года назад
The russian top tier is absolutely dominating most of the time with varieties of backups including most OP SPAA 2S6, strike aircraft MIG27K, KA-50/52 and MI28s. Also, the damage model is weird on the tanks such as only driver killed by suffering a lower front shot, volumetric ERA eating APFSDS especially relikts and ammunition explodes but didn't destroy the tank or even any parts. These problems are here for years but gaijin doesn't seems the have any plannings to fix any issues. Instead more and more russian top dog vehicles are introduced in each update.
@llama_3620
@llama_3620 2 года назад
italian chungus
@Brandon-qc3eu
@Brandon-qc3eu 2 года назад
I'm confused it still shows 11.0 for me
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV 2 года назад
Check Arcade/RB mode
@Brandon-qc3eu
@Brandon-qc3eu 2 года назад
@@JustinPlaysTV Oh I'm dumb, I dont have Italy researched and it defaults to arcade and tbh I forget that arcade is a thing and get put in a match every time i make a new lineup tab🤦🤣
@f22tempest20
@f22tempest20 2 года назад
Tips on how to become pro?
@IverGameplays
@IverGameplays 2 года назад
N O I I C E ! !
@astrophotonics9470
@astrophotonics9470 2 года назад
Italy gets no love from Gayjin ,,, unplayable right now.
@justmisha22
@justmisha22 2 года назад
How want some pizza?
@soupmct7847
@soupmct7847 2 года назад
Atleast you have a average view time of 1 minute 30
@ranmarsh8271
@ranmarsh8271 2 года назад
oh you live in vegas, well its dry heat so its not that bad lol. then again 115 is still 115 weather or not its dry heat or not
@nevetz845
@nevetz845 2 года назад
If the G91YS was Russian, it would have been moved to 9.0 one year ago, but hey, it's Italian, who cares? Gaijin doesn't for sure
@balls9052
@balls9052 2 года назад
MGS STRONK
@stggcsubcommanderseb4384
@stggcsubcommanderseb4384 2 года назад
Shout out to the 9% who watch the whole video
@FlensostensVrede
@FlensostensVrede 2 года назад
I almost always watch til the end on your videos. Don't know why you would just watch 9 min other than a short attention span. Young people probably.
@burningnapalm4436
@burningnapalm4436 2 года назад
13:23 I’m sorry Justin but you look like someone’s dad 💀
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV 2 года назад
Thankfully, I don't have kids xP This is what War Thunder does to you o.o
@victorg9164
@victorg9164 2 года назад
@@JustinPlaysTV dad is that you D-did you get the milk
@Sebastian-yl7nq
@Sebastian-yl7nq 2 года назад
Can’t blame you for enjoying destroying russian vehicles in this game They literally have dedicated code and values to them to make them better than other nation’s vehicles, the Bias is sadly not just a meme
@Marcel-ne1ew
@Marcel-ne1ew 2 года назад
I play pokemon go everyday!
@ricostreit1080
@ricostreit1080 2 года назад
why even have challengers at 11.0 then??? the ariete is way better ,....
@Ace-rp7vr
@Ace-rp7vr 2 года назад
A-129 CBT isn’t a bad chopper your just a bad chopper player
@victorg9164
@victorg9164 2 года назад
Ok now
@JustinPlaysTV
@JustinPlaysTV 2 года назад
No MAW, 8 hellfires with no A2A without sacrificing capability, yeah its a shitty helicopter.
@Thunderbox247
@Thunderbox247 2 года назад
1:26 why use the PSO when you have this thing People always say in WT "tank A or Tank B they're so similar". Here is a fucking random idea bring both. Its not air RB you can bring more than one vehicle. If both are so good having a spear means you don't need backups, and if you use back ups Great now you have 4 spawns
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