Went to read the review while watching this video. One of comments under the review says, "Those gay Australian game reviewers were right - this is a JOKE."
Update: We had hoped/thought it had been removed from Metacritic but it's still available in the PS4 section of Metacritic. We're glad that work like this is still getting the recognition it deserves, congrats Variety.
The political left within the United States has, for the most part, lost their fucking minds... there is sadly other spectacle such as this floating around.
@@SSHayden who knows, I don't watch shit with Carlson or the rest of the propaganda idiots at Faux Noise. Just go ahead and melt buttercup, we'll get someone to wipe up that greasy spot you will leave.
@@Jim2the1 Carlson is a dishonest shill working for the propaganda machine fox news but that doesn't mean that you should talk about him in a fucking video game that has no relations with him whatsoever. This review is absurd and it just shows how pathetic the person writing it is. I despise Tucker too but come on, there's a place to shit on him and it's not the division 2. ps: for any tucker lovers who think I'm an msnbc/cnn loving democrat, no, they're shit too. Fox is just way shittier.
@Daniel Stefanov That the opposite of reality. Watching that moron get his shit pushed in by Jon Stewart on his own show was the greatest moment of the 00's
The problem is, game criticism used to be filled with people who "failed" in the game industry (like movie critics). Game enthusiasts who couldn't make it in the industry. Now, it is being flooded with failed journalists, who couldn't make it in the news industry, but had a slight interest in games. Or put simply, game critics used to be those who majored in gaming, but is now dominated by those who minored in it.
Just to be clear, when I say "fail" I'm talking in the sense they couldn't make it in the industry. Like I noted, many film critics went to film school, and studied the craft. When they couldn't break into the industry, their side writing job they took, turned into a main job(for a lucky few). Similar things happened in game journalism. Most early reviewers studied game design, or another tech industry, while minoring in writing/journalism. Now, I notice a lot more reviewers who started out pursuing journalism, but failed to get their foot in the door at one of the few remaining (and shrinking) journalist jobs.
Plenty of game enthusiasts are people who couldn't make it in the games industry. Plenty of them are a combo chain, failing in journalism AND the games industry. None of them are good substitutes for actual journalism or investigation, which requires doing more than just reading reddit or twitter and then making a video.
"game criticism used to be filled with people who "failed" in the game industry" I'd say it's kinda the opposite way around, actually. Back in the days of print magazines, most of the journalists were gaming enthusiasts... who actually went on to either do regular journalism, or joined the games industry. Games journalism was just their starting point. For example, I wrote for a magazine called PC Zone - multiple members of the team, over the years, ended up in various areas of the games industry. There was Rhianna Pratchett, daughter of Terry, who ended up writing the likes of Mirror's Edge (though they apparently butchered her original story ideas), there was Suzy Wallace who was a car nut who worked on some car games, and then went on to work with the No Man's Sky team, a couple of people became indie developers (myself now included). The "fail" state for these people was, in my opinion, those who went from games journalism to games PR. Oh, and then you have the occasional exception to all the rules - Charlie Brooker, of course, went on to become obnoxiously successful with the likes of Black Mirror. Most of these people never did computer science, never studied game design; they were writers primarily. Now, admittedly, I can't speak for other publications... but the people I knew, the people I met, even working for other magazines; they all followed this pattern. Games journalism wasn't the backup, it was the foot in the door. I never met a games journalist who went into journalism because they couldn't get into the games industry itself.
Game journalists are just political activists at this point. Talentless leftist morons who are too fucking stupid to get hired by mainstream publications.
@@Bhalforii Guess you have never actually taken/seen someone on heroin. There is no such thing as "hyped up" when on heroin. That would be more likely cocaine, or meth. Heroin pretty much paralyzes you through it's high, which is why so many people die in their sleep from it because they can't move and their body tries to get rid of the drugs by vomiting and they choke to death.
Lads props for not just dipping your toes but jumping belly first into this issue. Its the biggest thing that has rustled my jimmies in modern 'gaming journalism'. This trend of 'journos' tangling their own personal politics in with a video game review has gotten so bad that in all seriousness its good to see my favorite bogans putting their feet down on this. I'm usually down here in the comments trying to out meme others and get a tasty pat on the head from the Laybois but I thought I would actually put some thought into my comment today. Good work lads. Also memes.
Aye. The level of pretentiousness and armchair politics and forced diversity agenda-making in game reviews really ruins the core of the matter which is is the damn game fun to play or not. I don't care if it's a white male or a female or whatever. I don't care if it's violent or a conversation on guns or racism. I don't care about it in my games as much as I don't care about it in my movies but god dammit, you can't run away from this shit now.
yea I bet everytime you commit a crime and go on trial the jury gives an eye roll and grumbles "figures with a name like that..." when your name is called as the defendant. later after your conviction, at sentencing, the judge says "SIR! your name exudes white male priveledge and jdueo Christian religious beliefs. you are here by sentenced to death for your crimes of being a stereotypical white male. your life shall serve as repirations for all the brown ppl your ppl have wrongfully convicted in the past....good day sir and may god have mercy and your soul"
Yup, political opinions are far more important than actually providing facts.This is why I don't watch TV and haven't done so for a very long time.Sick of the white male hating anti gun crap the MSM spoon feeds all the sheeple every freaking day while ignoring the real problems.The ABC is by far the worst here in Australia, disgusting that my tax $ go to providing platform for people like Clemantine Ford and that Yasmin thing to spout their hate. I must add, I have a mate whos a "stringer" (freelance cameraman) who used to tell me all about situations he went to and what ACTUALLY went on VS what got reported. EXAMPLE:like guy walking around looking for Christians to stab in Broadmeadows, MSM just reports as "guy with knife" no mention of the fact that he was of a certain "ideology" looking for people of a certain faith/s to try and KILL THEM.If they were honest many people may change their views on certain things, instead the sheeple only get told what the msm wants VS the TRUTH...
The "journo" have not played the game, after a FEW HOURS you have a mission where you save the president. And he did not know if the president is alive or not ?
Makes you wonder what Variety will do. Kick him out for making one of the worst reviews ever. Move him into the political section. Keep him to make more "game" reviews.
@Chuck Nourrizzz So true its so simple subtle things but its so entertaining. I think its how natural and honest they are that makes its so entertaining
Relevancy.... Yea not something outlets look for these days. I mean people have made it very clear they don't buy the bs..... Yet they keep going bankrupt for some odd reason. So Yea, grasping at relevancy not so much doubt they care.
Variety pulled the same thing as Forbes and decided overnight (right around the time e-sports started trending) they wanted to start covering videogames.
@@tomd6577 is that an un-provoked Tucker minion crying about the libs again... fuck dude, I've got no love for American libs but American right wingers are the world's biggest fucking cryers.. I guess stupid people don't know when they are saying stupid things... go cry about your lib fantasy elsewhere, we're here to laugh about games and this moron "reporters"? right wing fetish.... looking from the outside in all the Americans just cry at eachother in a massive circle jerk and never actually achieve anything then when somebody wants to do something good the left and right join forces in pushing away progress, and if anybody on the outside says anything that they oppose they all hold each others mini dicks and decide to bomb them for profit and those "beautiful rockets" as stated in American media
@@ihateusernamesgrrr lol, exactly. From the outside observing, both left & right wing americans are crybabies calling each other crybabies, and mostly about petty stuff.
@@akmal94ibrahim that's because they can't handle thinking about the big stuff me me me me... they have 1 american in Congress atm trying to make a small progress on the climate and the morons on both the left and right (which really to the rest of the world is just the right and far right) are ganging on her, sadly those morons don't even realise their decisions affect the entire planet... my criticism on this topic is not only towards Americans however it's relevant in the current American discussion
I love how that is a revelation...despite the fact that Tom Clancy was a reagan pos republican and all his works exemplified that...they could've done the tiniest bit of research ugh
I think the "shock" in that sentence was more about calling them... *clicks back in video* "ferocious tigers" in a positive way. Because usually calling someone a "ferocious" wild animal is meant to be a bad thing.
Dear Tucker, I wrote about you but you still ain't callin. I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom. I wrote two unnecessarily politicized game reviews about you back in Autumn, you must not have got em. I guess you don't read many game reviews or something.
Plenty of RU-vid game reviewers pushing their personal politics in their reviews too. That said, a review is *subjective*, so its usually fine, as long as it isn't the only thing that influences their review, like the Variety review dud. Yeah I meant to type Dud.
@@suraventri2544 you know what I really liked about division 2? How the main antagonist jumped, grabbed the sun,and threw it to the protagonist. What? It didn't happen? Well thats my subjective opinion.
@@denkerbosu3551 "Subjective" - based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions. What you just wrote is called a "lie" about the game's content, or a strawman argument. Google it if you aren't sure next time instead of making yourself look a few cans short of a six pack.
@@Plusimurfriend Well you can fuck everything in odyssey and its written by a leftie gay/trans woman that wrote the story without gender. So now you have the liberty to be gay now
Guys they aren't trying to write reviews. It's like a developer getting a job an insurance company and he creates some overblown solution to a simple problem so he can make his resume sound good.
It's obvious that the writer of that trash review didn't even play the first game or has even a single clue about the lore, gaming journalism is literally pointless in 2019
Murphy82nd 99% of journalism however in general is shit :/ it’s all political debate by now hence 100% worthless to have in being included to the gaming industry imo
@@sinnerofdarkness762 99%? Wow. With that kind of exaggeration you should write for Variety. Without journalism this channel wouldn't have most of its content.
to play devils advocate; can you blame the author for that? the US is becoming a little more than.... notorious... for severe gun violence problems and NRA marketing, it was just a matter of time before stuff like that also bleeds into the minds of US games journalists. And then there is the game's setting, a civil war-like aftermath of some political crisis wich, intended or not, is very similar to a frequently paddled narrative among FOX hosts (notably tucker)... i can imagine that also hits home close for some americans, seeing how bat-shit intense and consolidated US news broadcasting is.
@@sperzieb00n To be fair, guns are an issue, and I'm a liberal, but come on this is a shooter game. Combat in games is fun. Nobody says anything about fantasy combat with swords, but are you not allowed to have combat in a game set in modern times? Come on.
@@MannyBrum well the US isn't fantasy, and even among Americans, isn't exactly known for severe sword violence problems, is it? i'm not saying what you can or can't do, just that you shouldn't be surprised when the effects of those chronic gun violence problems and media bombardement, leak trough in the expressions of average Americans, wich includes games journalists.
@@sperzieb00n Not surprised, it's just that it's not professional and it's a bad article. He argued on Twitter that he didn't talk about the game because there was nothing to say about it then went on to leave a thread that discussed his opinion of the game and it was a better review than the article.
@@sperzieb00n I don't think you've played the game. It's not civil war-like, it's post-apocalyptic gang warfare. It wasn't caused by some political crisis, it was caused by a man-made plague created by a single insane scientist.
That video he did was bad. Jim is same guy that criticizes people blaming mass shootings due to violence in games. But he wants division to be more political. Hypocritical. I love his work otherwise.
That's probably because you can't tell real journalism from partisan drivel, no offense. There are many fucking awful journalists writing for classic media but that hardly takes away from how hard it is to find credible people doing any serious work on YT. Frankly, I don't know a single YT channel where I really trust the content without verifying it myself. No standards, no QC, no transparency about sponsorships and friendly favors, and most don't do any legwork themselves.
@@Monochromatic_Spider Seconded. You can get famous for beinf awful on RU-vid, and still thrive. Being a journalist is way more than just writing about something.
@@Monochromatic_Spider what msm networks can you do that with how many time do they have to blatently get things wrong and be sued over before they become uncredible. from being warped by political lenses to out right wrong barley anything you hear from them is vailed at all.
@@facemite Where do you think the various YT channels get their info from? How many of them actually do all the journalistic legwork themselves? And MSM do get things wrong every so often. But a much more common problem is that MSM omit details or offer a misleading interpretation. Both these issues are just as common on YT, though. How to minimise the individual MSM bias in a story? Read the same story from multiple sources.
I remember the years of GamePro magazine, and EGM and PSM, NO politics were EVER in those magazines 15 and 20 years ago... they were ACTUALLY about games
The title of this video perfectly explains games journalism right now... A lot of them wanted to be a journalist at a big news firm, but didn't have the qualifications to get in and they didn't have the drive to go independent. So they're left stuck and bitter.
"Variety" has been best known as an Entertainment insider magazine, primarily covering the Hollywood film industry both for and about the people who work in it. As a magazine, it existed for the better part of a century, was well respected, and from the 1970s and earlier was a primary place that notices for film role auditions was placed. By the later part of the 20th century it also included some music industry news, mostly as it related to Hollywood and LA. I vaguely recall it trended toward going out of business with the onset of the Internet, and was probably sold at least once. No idea what they or their website are like now. In the old movies you often saw the wanna-be actors sitting around a diner reading Variety (i.e. looking at posted auditions). 😎
This is a perfect example of how far obsession can go. You start to see and imagine things that aren’t there. Regardless of your political leanings it’s healthy to do a reality check from time to time for the sake of your mental health.
Glad to see some of my brethen talk about the political situation of my country in my vidya. Like I have to be reminded of every waking moment that life sucks. I already have that on fecesbook, why not on my games too?
Just came across that article last night. What the actual fuck. Link for those interested: www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2015/6/1/8687867/rock-band-4-preview TL;DR: Person talks about being flown out to preview Rock Band, but basically says they don’t give a shit about and literally wrote their preview based on watching some other people play the game.
@@purvdragon-sensei a mixed bag. Politicians here are more audacious in their parties. When The Dutes came into power the leeches of the previously dominating party jumped ship and went ahead to ally themselves to the current trend making things worse. So you now have a party with complete control of the senate and congress (haha, as if their shitbaggery couldn't be noticed) with deep, base-of-cock up inside the anus connections to China. Well there's a new tax with the TRAIN law but people don't like it because it takes more money for their taxes even though they like the new laws of subsidized education and accessible health care for all (new directive for the health insurance policy that requires all of its citizens to be a member for subsidized healthcare) it's honestly in its growing pains of development that will subside soon enough, I think. There's new highways being built, there's a new proposal for extending trains to finally reach out to the provinces to lessen the capital's trafffic congestion and allow investors faster and safer access to areas that can be developed. I work in the health sector and the new law in subsidized healthcare is a welcome change. We have a more stable income that closes the disparity between public and private institutions, and we're currently working on a goal to make this country a go to place for medical research and intervention center in southeast asia (to finally get that ASEAN ball rolling).
Here's a question - who actually reads this crap? I haven't read or watched a 'journalist' review in decades and I can't understand why anyone else would, either. That goes triple for late-to-the-game outlets like 'Hollywood rumour billboard', aka Variety. Just ignore 'reviews' and go with your own gut instinct, you'll be fine.
People should be free to write whatever they want and call it a review. Just because Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes are treated like the stock market of art criticism, it's still just an opinion about art. We should abolish review scores and just read what people have to say.
@@joshhorne1915 True, people should be free to write reviews however they want. But it doesn't mean we can't criticize the reviews, especially when I've seen bathroom wall scribbles that are more on topic.
Oh this another review related to the Division 2 devs saying the game isn't political. Saw Jim Sterling post a video bitching about this stuff too lmao.
Ethan Matz Jim sterling’s point was that Ubisoft was trying to have their cake and eat it too. The marketing even made jabs at the Trump administration and his stupid wall. Ubisoft can’t “pretend” to not be political while using politics to market their game
I just love how you are not ever holding back and just say things how they are. Its so satisfying to hear all the targettet vulgarities used the right way. Its great to see someone in 2019 who doesnt sell their opinion. I would wish you had more and more views in the future guys, you deserve it.
As I said, with every person saying that The Division 2 is not political enough. There's gonna be another person saying that The Division 2 is too political.
Jaeger Kej That's the issue, though isn't it? You can find politics anywhere if you're looking for them. The problem is people picking and choosing their outrage. Over represent gay/trans/women/whatever? The gaming right goes nuts. The gaming left doesn't see what the problem is. Pro gun message? The gaming left goes nuts. The gaming right doesn't know what the problem is. Then everyone starts demanding politics stay out of videogames... But only if they're politics they disagree with. The end result is a bunch of whiny crying children (on both sides) that no-one takes seriously because they're all entitled hypocrites.
I keep watching this video to laugh and cheer up, its just too damn good, im up to 250hrs in the division 2. Here is my review. Tucker Carlson not found. Great game.
