Which CPU to use for a Ventura Hackintosh build in 2023? 

Thanks!

I haven't tried it myself. The reason that Adobe apps don't work properly on Ryzen in macOS is because of missing instructions. So for Adobe apps to work properly then Proxmox must emulate the missing instructions in software. I don't know if it does that, but there is a thread on Reddit from somebody who had basically the same question as you and later said that it did work. Here is a link - www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/eo057x/would_running_a_ryzen_hackintosh_vfio_setup_allow/

Not a specific motherboard but I've used Gigabyte and Asus in the past and been very happy with them. You can stay with 600 series to save some money as there's not going to be any performance benefit in going with a 700 series motherboard. Take a look at the Github pages for Z690 hackintoshes and make a note of which motherboards they're using. You don't have to use their EFI's but at least you can be 100% positive the motherboard works - github.com/search?q=z690+hackintosh

@@BartechTV Wow, thank you so much for all the detailed information. There’s a lot to learn here but hopefully I can achieve it taking it a step at a time. Really appreciate all that you provide.

You can use OpenCore Legacy Patcher to get a Haswell iGPU working in Ventura but it's unsupported by default.

Ventura is the most recent. You should be able to run Sonoma too as long as you have the latest kernel patches - github.com/AMD-OSX/AMD_Vanilla

The processor will work. You just need an AMD Polaris or Navi GPU. I've just installed macOS Sonoma on an old Core i5-4570 with an RX 460. Runs fine. Scores 3300 in Geekbench 6 multicore - faster than the early 2020 MacBook Air with a core i7, and only slightly behind the early 2019 iMac 21.5" with i3-8100.

@@BartechTV Cheers. I've got an RX 580 here, so it should do the trick.

How did it go?

Technically, the CPU is compatible but the integrated graphics isn't. So you'd be limited to running macOS in VESA mode without any graphics acceleration whatsoever, making it basically unusable.

Yes, a mini PC with a Ryzen CPU and 6600M graphics is the fastest hackintoshable Mini PC currently available. A 5800H scores about the same as an M1 in Geekbench 6 CPU, while the RX 6600M gets over 100K in metal, beating a 19 GPU Core M2 Pro. A 6650M should be simple to get working with a device-id spoof. I don't know about Intel Mini PC's with an eGPU, I think using an eGPU kinda defeats the purpose of a Mini PC in the first place, you may as well go for a mini ITX build which is a much neater solution.

@@BartechTV Yes I have been looking at the Asrock Deskmeet B660 which can have up to 128gb ddr4 ram, pcie 4.0 nvme and 14th intel such as i7-14700 or i9-14900. With a low power card such as the rx 550 it might be the best value ever for 1000usd TOTAL you can have 128gb ram and 4tb (if going for the i5 14500)or if going with the I7 14700 one would have to choose less ram or less hard drive size to stick to the 1000usd limit (as an idea, specially when comparing to mac mini m2) The deskmeet comes with a 500watts bronze psu so I doubt it would work well for a bigger gpu such as rx 6800xt (actually it wouldnt fit lol). But there are better bigger sfx psu of course. For 500usd total I like the i3-14100 with 16gb ram and 1tb ssd (same setup of deskmeet b660 and rx 550 4gb). Been checking them in Newegg. Soon they'll release Deskmeet x600 for AM5 ryzen processors and it will have ddr5 (up to 192gb ram) and pcie m2 5.0. Cheers

I have a €500 build video that should be uploaded in a few days. I'm using an 13-13100 as the 14100 wasn't available at the time I built it, with a 1TB WD SN770, 16GB DDR4, and a used Asus RX 5700. Exporting a six and a half minute 4K video to H.264 from FCP takes 3m 10s on this hackintosh. The same export took 8m 2s on my M1 MBA and 6m34s on my M2 Mini. So, I'm very happy with the performance for the cost.

Or Intel Skylake-X CPUs with X299X.

If you disable the E-cores, then the maximum CPU frequency will be that of the P-cores (4.8Ghz, in the case of the i5-13500). Gives you better peak single-core performance but worse multi-core performance. If you enable the E-cores, then all P-Cores and E-cores will be used, but macOS makes no distinction between them, and the maximum CPU frequency will be that of the E-Cores (3.5Ghz in the case of the i5-13500). Enabling all cores with the ProvideCurrentCPUInfo quirk and CPUTopologyRebuild kext generally gives about 20% better performance on average than just the P-cores on their own, at least in benchmarks like Cinebench and GeekBench. Although these limitations mean that the Alder Lake & Raptor Lake processors don't reach their full potential in macOS (eg. the i9-13900K hits 21k in Geekbench 6 Multicore under Linux or Windows, but only 18K in macOS) it's still faster than Apple's fastest CPU, the M1 Ultra. The reduction in max clock speed also results in lower power draw and less heat, which is important to some people.

@@BartechTV Tnx a lot for your fast reply for most people this is pretty good news i guess. For Audio Production in my case highest Singlecore Speed and some Cores are important so i guess i stay with the 12400 for now since its very cheap too. The "true" Multicore Performance doesnt benefit me if Audio lanes that run on E-Cores get overflows and hickups. Will go with an Asus B660 Gaming F Board

​@@alexlukas2817check passmark and cpumonkey for benchmarks. Best values for single core are i3 14100, i5 14500, i7 14700 and i9 14700. My picks from those would be i3 14100 for a cheap build and i7 14700 for best performance and value. Cheers

I'm not aware of any motherboards that don't work. I'm currently using a Gigabyte B760 DS3H for my 13th gen build, although that's a Micro-ATX board. You should be fine with any Z790 / B760 board.

@@BartechTV i just buy i5 13400 pair with Rog Strix B760-i Gaming Wifi. this should be work fine right?

Take a look at this GitHub page for a hackintosh using the same PC -github.com/lqph1994/OpenCore-Hackintosh-HP-EliteDesk-800-G3

Mac apps are distributed as universal binaries, so they run on both architectures.

Not without a dedicated AMD graphics card. There's no support for the 12th/13th gen iGPU in macOS.

RX 6800 XT would be a good match

Yes as long as you have a compatible GPU and use an iMacPro or Mac Pro SMBIOS

I made a video about GPU's a few weeks ago - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C0le0DwSTmM.html

It would be about 5% faster in CPU performance and 40% faster in GPU performance than the M1 Ultra Mac Studio with the 64-core GPU. Simultaneous Logic Pro tracks: Mac Mini M1: 109 Mac Studio M1 Max: 195 Mac Studio M1 Ultra: 311 i9 13900K: 457 ( source: facebook.com/photo/?fbid=502966621845296 )

@@BartechTV Thankyou and thats a really good news, but i have heard intel processors are not being fully used in hackintoshes specially the E cores. Is it true? Also if i make a hackintosh now in how many years you think apple will stop providing any update for it? I want a computer which can atleast last me 5 years with that

Yes, it's true. macOS doesn't differentiate between P-cores and E-cores, it treats them all the same, and they all run at the same clock speed. That's why the 13900K only gets around 19000 in Geekbench 6 under macOS, but 26000 under Windows. Under macOS it only beats the M1 Ultra by 5%, instead of potentially 50% if macOS correctly utilized the cores.

Yes.

I'm not aware of any motherboards that aren't compatible. I've even got Ventura running on non-standard Fujitsu and Dell motherboards in prebuilt office PC's. So long as you have a compatible CPU and GPU you should be fine.

@@BartechTV Thank you for your response. How about the internet and airdrop then. I read that these are usually compatiable ? Is there a list of cards to get ?

You can get most WiFi cards working, but for fully working Airdrop and Continuity, you need either the Fenvi T919 or a BCM94360 card with a PCIe adapter. Those are the only two cards that are compatible with Airdrop and Continuity in Ventura.

No, the Xeon uses a different socket.

@@BartechTV is there any cpu that would work?

This video is just about desktop CPU's. No mobile CPU's newer than 10th gen are working in macOS.

No. macOS has no Nvidia support.

@@BartechTV Okay. Thank you.

Yes, sure. You'll just need a compatible graphics card, though, since the "F" processors lack integrated graphics.

@@BartechTV is there a filter about talking of others kind CPUs than blue one?

@@BartechTV Is xeon e5 2696 v5 support hackintosh

That should be relatively easy to get working. You'll need to spoof the CPU id as a Comet Lake CPU but otherwise straightforward.

@@BartechTV You were correct Sir, in 12 hrs , I built it from empty case to working Hackintosh . even the intel i226v ethernet works. 11,000 score in GeekBench6 while screen recording. All P-cores & E cores are working too. Thanks for the inspiration, and as a long time MacUser .... I have now went Rouge and I'm loving it !!

@@Spoolingturbo6 what gPU are you using? Also, can you please tell which guide did you follow to create the EFI ?

Even when Apple drops support for Macs with 8th gen Intel CPU's, Hackintosh users with 8th gen CPU's can continue to use them by simply changing their SMBIOS definition. I'm running Sonoma on a 4th gen Intel CPU, for example, even though the last real Mac with a Haswell CPU was dropped years ago. Apple seems to have adopted a five year Window of OS support. A new Mac will be given five years of support in major OS releases followed by another three years of security updates. Going by what we've seen from Apple up to now, macOS 2024 will drop support for 2018 machines - MBP, MBA & Mac mini 2018 macOS 2025 will drop support for 2019 machines - MBP, MBA & iMac 4K/5K 2019 macOS 2026 will drop support for 2020 machines - iMac 5K, MBP, MBA Intel 2020, & first gen MBP / MBA / Mac Mini (M1, 2020). macOS 2027 will drop support for 2021 machines - MBP 14" & 16" 2021, iMac 24" ...and so on.