FACTS!!! Part 2 kruger looks the most evil. And i didnt clock the g*yness either as a kid. Iv got the best kruger halloween costume. The mask is movie accurate
Another fantastic video! I picked the perfect time to binge all the Elm Street movies last month so I'd be caught up to see this. It's nice to hear someone give Freddie Vs Jason some love and appreciation because I feel like it's often overlooked. And also really proud of you getting sponsors!
Nawww, cheers mate. Yeah its just flat out crazy to me how much Freddy vs Jason gets trashed. That was like the Deadpool of my childhood. It felt like a movie that was made exclusively for me.
Freddy Vs Jason isn't perfect but I think it was still a really good execution of a vs movie featuring two horror villains. Reading up on the rough road to production this movie had and all the different ideas, and scripts that almost came to be, it makes me all the more thankful we got the movie we got.
Right?!??! For a versus movie, and for the idea of mashing the two greatest horror icons of all time in a battle to the death.... it did its job with excellence! Even Alien vs. Predator was amazing in my opinion! Ronny Yu did an amazing job in bringing the two horror titans on screen with a story that fit well! Freddy kicked Jasons ass though straight up! In dream land and in reality! Even in Paul W. S. Andersons AvP, the Alien is definitely the more superior creature! Take off the Predators armor, weapons, etc.... it wouldnt stand a chance against an Alien. One Alien single handedly killed off two Predators! No problemo! Both films were BEAUTIFUL!
FVJ was about as good as it could have been the cast is bad though teen wise but the kills are great and Jason and Freddy are great it's a great fun movie which is all that matters.
Early on, I always thought Freddy was at his best at Part 1 & 3. However, after giving it some thought, I think New Nightmare is my fav. I like how he’s a more serious take on the character without going overly edgy like in the remake. Plus, I think his trench coat really makes him look actually kinda badass. and it also helps him look distinct compared to the other Freddys.
@@kostazarikos3383 You're all just blinded by nostalgia and can't separate Freddy from your fav movie if you're gonna say something like New Nightmare and Dream Warriors Freddy were the scariest and completely disregard the ACTUAL SCARIEST Freddy, which was part 2. Because most part 3 fans hate part 2 as a movie, they can't separate the Freddy character from the movie.
The first, and original Nightmare on Elm Street. Freddy was never more serious, threatening and truly nightmarish. Seeing it in the theatre in 85, everyone loved it and was losing their minds. I never saw any audience reactions like that from any of the other nightmare films again. It's the only one I watch faithfully.
Here's mine: 1. New Nightmare (I really love this Freddy. What a badass villain. Robert Englund plays it 100% straight in this movie and plays Freddy differently. Talking more growly, aggressive and angry like he's so desperate to break free already. And I love, love, love, love, love his new update. His new hat, scars, buff shape and trencoat is really neat. It is popular belief Freddy's a demon pretending to be Freddy but I always saw him to a bigger, grander entity that's entered into alternate worlds as different shapes of fear. Even Englund sees Freddy that way. He never says "Yeah, it wasn't really Freddy in that movie." But he talks like this was supposed to be the lager scope to Freddy's life before he came out as a human baby. Gives a interesting origin that leaves you thinking and talking. (Even the fjnale in Freddy's netherworld looks like a Roman city. It might not be his world. Maybe it's Hell and he lives at the bottom. See how it leaves to so many conversations that just "Yeah it's a demon pretending to be Freddy."?) And I love how he goes out of his way to go after Heather's child to take advantage from her. I love it, that's a great character!) 2. 1984 (The original felt like this is a guy that can exist in real life, despite living in your dreams. His clothes, face and claws look so real, grungy and gritty. His scars look so fresh and raw. And he's kept in the shadows most of the time that leaves him ambiguous to look at. His dialouge is always creepy and never funny, and he would whisper and never yell. I also love how his voice becomes deeper and more evil after being furious from Nancy. Scary mf.) 3. Dream Warriors (I was split between this and the next one because they're really good. But I liked Dream Warriors more. Despite being barley in the movie, he has a much more presence on screen than before and has a full fledged personality. And he takes multiple shapes and fears that makes him unstoppable to take down and this was when Freddy would take the things you love and twist them around. I also think this is his most iconic look of them all. Has the right balance to being funny and scary.) 4. Freddy's Revenge (Probably the scarier Freddy of the series. He looks so demonic and evil. I love his bony skull look. It's what the remake tried to do but failed. However, his goal to enter to reality never made sense because that was the way to kill him. But it does make up for him being so powerful in reality.) 5. Dream Master (This was the last time I felt Freddy was a threat until 7. He is a partly menacing but he also lean towards being silly. However, he does steal the show when he's onscreen and Robert Englund himself said this was his favorite performance as Freddy because he has the most freedom to do whatever he wanted to say or do on camera and he looks like he's having so much fun. I love his makeup as well but his sweater is too bright and clean. Should've been like part 3's but I love his glove design. He overall had charisma and acted like a slick badass villain and that is something I can't say I can't enjoy. Especially by a 80s action director.) 6. Vs. (Never cared for the movie. I think it was overrated. (Sorry, not sorry. :)) But Freddy was not too bad here. He definitely is closer to part 3 and 4 and part 1 where he gets strength by fear and not souls. But his makeup looked pretty cheap and goofy and his sweater is too dark to see. It's possible Rick and Morty were inspired by this portrayal since he says B**** so many times here. It's also the first film In the series to explore Freddy being more than... a child killer. ("He loves children. Especially little girls.") Good lord, he fingers a underage girl with his claws. Yuck. But just when you think he's leaning towards serious Freddy, it goes back to silly or unintentionally funny like his sufden kung-fu. This came out the same year as the TCM remake. There was no excuse to not see a grittier, darker Freddy for the 2000s.) 7. Dream Child (Lacked any charisma. No personality and wasn't scary. He looks a bit more Gothic but immediately whiplash to a cheesy idiot. His kills are brutal however. This film really does show Freddy's darker side. But it deserved a better movie. I love the idea he stalks a unborn child because it's so evil and cold and gives you real fear but I don't think the 80s were ready for the ideas and themes they wanted to tell in the movie. Freddy's makeup also was really lacking.) 8. Freddy's Dead (I hated this Freddy so much. His look, jokes and performance is so childish. Gone are the days when Freddy might cracked a smirk while hiding in the shadows like 1 or 7 or a neat balance of scary and entertaining like 3, now he's just a pathetic shell of his former self and is probably the reason why so many are Team Jason over Freddy. Because he's not scary... AT ALL. It's really a accomplishment that they made a child murderer with literal knives for fingers and a melted burned face about as scary as a Sesame Street episode. The look and performance is the equivalent of sticking a middle finger and spitting on Wes Craven and the original Nightmare. Also, his backstory in the movie sucks. (Not the adult Freddy scenes with his kid and wife.) The ones that make him out to be a textbook serial killer. I always saw Freddy as being pure evil from birth because he was "the bastard son of a hundred maniacs" but this movie tries to push the egenda that he was "tormented", "bullied", & "abused" and THAT caused him to turn crazy. Yeah, basically a Rob Zombie Halloween explanation. Which ruins the fear factor and the fact that Freddy is just 100% unfiltered f-ing evil. And his death was also the worst. (3 knives and a bomb. Ooh! So lazy. Chucky survived better than this!) Like what did 3D glasses do anything new that Nancy Thompson couldn't do 7 years prior? What made them think that would properly kill a LITTERAL GHOST-DEMON!?! Real world or not, he seemed to take the pain just fine. Just terrible. I respect your opinion but I just hated part 6's Freddy.) 9. Remake (Honestly what you said is absolutely pitch perfect for me. So that's all.)
Part 3. We have plenty of "scary" horror villains. But ones who have that sadistic sense of humor and where it actually works are few and far between. I feel that Dream Warriors's take on Freddy was the best blend. Plenty of memorable one liners but he still felt like a threat and like I believe why the characters in the story are afraid of him. Not every horror villain needs to be a completely serious killer with no sense of humor. The pivoting tones can be used effectively to enhance both since both are built upon building and then delivering or subverting expectations.
Part 3 IMO had the right balance of Freddy's menace and humour. I like all the makeup with the exception of Freddy's Dead, it's like they softened his look as well as amping up the comic elements.
New Nightmare has my favorite design for Freddy (that demonic form he turns into when he's pissed off in FVJ is neat too), but personality wise, it's either the original, 2, or 3 for me.
The first Freddy will ALWAYS be the most scariest and iconic. Tina’s death is still the most scariest and brutal of all the rest. He was relentless. The first movie kept it scary. While the rest turned him into a gimmick.
3 is probably my favorite Nightmare movie, but the Freddy from the first one felt more like a boogy man. I also think they should have kept his creepy, higher-pitched voice as opposed to making deeper and more "demonic" sounding later on in the movie (and for the rest of the series).
Freddy vs Jason was honestly my fave, mainly cause Jason is my fave horror icon (followed by Freddy). Yes it was a little cheesy here and there, but I must admit, it had my eyes hooked on the tv😅
After, just now, finding out about the existence of that deleted scene; I can't think of any justification for not including it in the movie. Run time be damned, that's a detail that would have really improved the story and upped the stakes.
I recently re-watched A Nightmare on Elm Street, and I came to a conclusion about the ending, since it always bothered me. It comes off as a dream Nancy is having, but I don't think it is. I think it was the dream her mother was having when Freddy killed her. It was from her mother's point of view, and she's the one who ended up dead in it. It was a sudden, awkward wrap-up to the movie, and this helps it make more sense to me. Just one of those things. Anyway, Freddy's Revenge was alright, but it probably had the weirdest line Krueger ever uttered on screen. At the party, he said, "There is no Jesse! I'M Jesse now!" I doubt he would have said that. That line should have been, "There is no Jesse. Only Freddy." That said, Freddy Krueger is my favorite slasher because of his creativity, which the fantasy elements in Dream Warriors really helped with. And I know Freddy's Dead was stupid, but it is my favorite of the series, and not for the 3D gimmick and video game references. I actually really liked the 10-year jump forward, with Springwood totally devoid of kids and full of mentally unstable adults. That was creepy. And yes, Carlos's dream death was exquisitely scary, something that haunted you after seeing it. The Dream Demons did kind of feel tacked on, if only to give Doc some expertise on Freddy's character. They did the same thing in Jason Goes to Hell, where Jason Voorhees was given the body-swapping ability and Duke was the expert, although I really liked the inclusion of Evil Dead 2's Necronomicon and Kandarian dagger. It was a nice way to make sense of Jason's resurrected adult form and connect all three series in one movie (Freddy's glove appeared, too), plus made for some awesome Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash graphic novels. If I had to rank these, I'd go #1 for the first film, #2 Freddy's Dead (I know, it's still my favorite, but I think the first movie is better storywise), and #3 Dream Warriors. The others can fall where they must. New Nightmare had its moments, I'll give it that. If they want to get even more meta, I'd love to see Horace Pinker from Shocker run through the TV-verse into one of the Nightmare on Elm Street films and fight Freddy. That would be sweet. Oh, will you be doing a list for the Friday the 13th movies? Jason's got to be next after this.
Na Nancy dreamed the whole movie thought she beat Freddy and thought she woke up but she didn't and Freddy took her away in the car to kill her. It confuses people because they are looking at it from a franchise point of view. You have to remember though no franchise was intended at the time and they had no idea Nancy would ever return I think the ending is pretty easy to follow, to be honest.
@@boomstickcritique902 I think it was just Horace Pinker cosplaying as Freddy Krueger when he accidentally passed through the channel airing _A Nightmare on Elm Street._ He saw what was going on and had a sudden urge to alter the movie's ending.
Remember In dream warriors we learn it’s possible to link up with others and that’s what Nancy did before realizing it was possible. I’m not talking about directly pulling someone into your dream like Kristen, just finding others in dreamworld
Although Freddy doesn't come to mind when thinking about my favorite horror slashers in recent times, he holds a funky little place in my heart. I remember being 6 or 7 when I first saw bits of dream warriors. Looking back now, Freddy was kinda my intro to horror. Not long after that I was sneaking my way into the horror section of blockbuster to look at all the scary dvd covers (cried like a bitch every time I saw child's play) and held out mirrors from behind walls to watch movies like chainsaw massacre and hills have eyes when I knew I'd get chewed up if the adults caught me. What a forgotten gem of mine,,,which is fine because most of the movies are actually garbage in my opinion but still
Great video man, have you ever read one of the original scripts for Freddy VS Jason that never saw the light of day because of budget reasons? IT WAS INSANE!! If I tell you which one is it I would spoil it for you xD
@@mar666lo now that is somewhat a shame we didn’t see that. I’m also a fan of Hellraiser’s Pinhead separating the two and saying “Gentlemen, what seems to be the problem?” as an ending.
I am a fan of Freddy from Part 3 and 1, but that's just me. Now I'm gonna see what you thought. Edit. Wait.. That kinda sounds naughty.. "stop ranking your fred in there."
I got so excited when I saw the notification that a new Cordz video was up. Feels like just the other day we got the Halloween Kills review! Loved this video and pretty much agree with most of it. I loved New Nightmare when it first came out, although it doesn't hold up as well as the original, its still one of my favorites because of how different it was (at least the first half) and it was the first meta/fourthwallbreaking/whatever type of movie I had seen. Also, congrats on the sponsor!
I thoroughly enjoyed A New Nightmare, it was a great sendoff to Nancy and I Loved the Thank You note at the end. Absolutely Loved it. Your Chills impression is amazing, please don't stop.
So nice to see somebody give Freddy versus Jason the credit it deserves. Very well done, dark as hell, gave good representation to both characters, even though Kane Hodder wasn't part of it. Kick ass mushroomhead song on soundtrack top
I'm pissed because I've managed to miss every single one of your videos in the last like 5 months because you haven't been showing up in my sub box. Love your stuff man.
Okay, @CORDZ - I've enjoyed your videos since becoming a follower a few months ago. When I saw the notification of this video - THIS was the moment that I would see how true an Elm Street fan you are, and buddy - you did not disappoint! The moment you gave your choices, even though I might have taken a step back once or twice, you were there to provide a clear, reasonable explanation for your choice. Excellent! Keep on keeping on! 🥰
I honestly thought his origin for the reboot was something. A friendly guy who liked kids then turns out he's a perv. Very realistic. The makeup design was pretty good. That said I also like Parts 2 and 6.
The hand in the car remains one of the scariest moment of my childhood. I forgot which Freddy movie it was in but I had nightmare for days. Great video
Yesss i’m glad we share the same opinion on Freddy in Freddy vs Jason! One little detail I loved in particular was during the final fight when Freddy, after failing to do any real dmg to Jason through basic combat, resorted to what he did best, being creative (using the air tanks, metal rods etc.) It was cool to see him use that in reality even though it wasn’t as spectacular as in ppl’s dreams.
I like how Freddy evolved. He was underpowered to start. Came back right pissed off in part 2. But then his powers grew, and he realized there'll always be a way for him to come back, so he stopped caring. Started having fun with it. He became a dream troll.
I favor part 3 Freddy because this is where he not only revels in being scary, he hones in on his shots of one-liners for his kills "this is your big break on TV!"
Whilst Dream Warriors is my favourite film, I'd agree the best portrayal of Freddy is in the original. He's at his most twisted and macabre. Having him speak in his natural voice is much scarier. No one understood him better than Wes. I'm surprised no sequel tried to go back to the chase element again. You run away and turn back to see how far away he is then boom. He's facing you. If Freddy gets hold of you That's terrifying. There was a sense of humour there but it was very dark and added to the chill factor rather than dilute it. His taunts here sound very much like those of a real life bully rather than added for effect.
Only the first 2 movies were real horror, the 3rd one combined horror elements with adventure and some action. The rest were just spoofs. But the second movie is the most horror of them all, Freddy is the scariest (best makeup as well) in this one even though the movie itself is not as good as the first one or the third.
I remember seeing that promo of remake-freddy hiding behind a box while watching TV and it scared the absolute fuck out of me when I wasn't a horror fan, and I remember being so disappointed about the shitty jump scare editing when I watched it years later.
Good list and I completely agree with New Nightmare. That 3rd act...movie is great until you get to the highway scene and Heather eating pills as a trail of breadcrumbs. Looking at the production of the film and how many real life things that were happening was mirroring the script or effected the script and I often wonder if Wes kinda got cold feet on that 3rd act.
Well Wes Craven was known to have terrible endings in his movies, especially those he wrote himself. Even og Elm Street kinda sucks in that regard, all that build up and then it kinda just ends. Don't even get me started on Deadly Blessing, where ending and "twist" comes literally out of nowhere. Even he himself said he always struggled with how to finish the movie and was afraid he will ruin it, because he knew opening and ending are most important part of the movie.
Freddy Vs Jason I saw opening night at a theater near a college town and it was the best theatrical experience I had until The Avengers. Theater absolutely packed with fans predicting the outcome (including the ridiculous notion other non-advertised slashers/monsters would appear…and man, how I wish the Pinhead ending was what they went with), everyone reacting perfectly to every kill, every attack, every dream, and every single second of the showdown like it was the best booked wrestling match of all time, and then coming out to see a throng of people wanting to go and see it but being told they were sold out, so they just wrecked on through and dispersed only when the cops showed up. Perfect.
I remember being around 10/11 and renting Space Jam from Video Ezy as a kid and the tape actually ended up being Freddy vs. Jason. Scarred me for life as a child but it was what got me into horror.
Pretty much spot on re Freddy's Revenge. The real-world, behind-the-scenes homophobia bothers people, and rightly so. But the actual content of the movie is great. You could make virtually the same movie today (set in the 80s, obv) and I don't think anyone would have a problem with it.
The dogs with burnt human faces was always one of the scariest things I'd ever seen as a child. I hated the second one but it was the ending that was scary. Plus after growing up on scary 80's classics during the 90's. Seeing Freddy vs Jason in theaters was soooo cool! Nice chills impression btw
When i was young, my mom would always tune to a horror movie on tv and did not care if me and my brothers and sister were in the room watching with her. And when my brother pops in a horror vhs movie my mom would come and sit and with us and thats our family movie night. My pops was always at work LOL. Yep, i had lots of nightmares, crying, and bed peeing moments when i was a kid. Leprechaun, scream, jason, freddy, michael myers, candyman, everything man.
Man, I love rewatching this video. I can definitely say that it's my guilty pleasure at this point 😂 saves me time on watching the movies themselves and i get some nice australian comedy on the side P.S i'm missing the cordz content.
You know something? Nobody ever talks about the REGULAR Freddy makeup that Robert wears in the talk show scene in New Nightmare. I think it's original to this movie, because it seems unfamiliar to the films, and even the classic glove looks like a fresh one. Yet, somehow, it never ends up on anyone's list, and it looks so good despite it only being used for one scene. It may be short-lived, but it deserves attention, too, because it's still an original looking Freddy design if it's supposed to be "Robert in his Freddy makeup."
Very late to the party on this but… my opinion is that, if you look at the evolution of Freddy from first to last movie, his scars look fresh in the first movie, and progressively heal as the series goes on. Freddy in the first movie is freshly back, with fresh burns on his face, and is testing the waters of what he can do. Freddy at the end is mostly healed over and has now realized his full potential, relaxed in his new existence, and finds true joy and happiness with his one liners and jokes to himself while killing people in new and creative ways to help alleviate the repetitive nature of murder.
I don't think Freddy was ever as legitimately terrifying as he was in Nightmare 2, when he pulls his scalp back to reveal his brain and then gives the most maniacal, bone-chilling laugh.
Part 2 for me...the movie looks a bit cheap, but Krueger's make-up and character are at it's best. For me Freddy vs Jason falls apart when they claim Jason is afraid of water....did they even watch a Friday the 13th movie?
yup part 2 has to have one of the coolest Freddy variations and its my favorite the laughing murderer rather than the wise cracking and also what you said about part one is true, Freddy is just the definitive creep in that one.
When I was in middle school I had the complete vhs box set of all the nightmare on elm street movies. Ya know I really wish I kept all my old tapes now that I look back.
Loved Freddie & Elm Street 1, 2, 3 as a kid! Quality actor/Freddie look, style vibe/story/directing etc! Actually my Mum says when I was 5/6 that I use to say at school... "Freddie's Coming!" lol Seriously though Cheers Cordz 🍻 I'm off to watch J V'sF 1st Time Again Cheers Man! And Man it was Excellent Thanks for the Recommendation
Fun fact, Johnny Depp asked Wes Craven why he wasn't asked back for "New Nightmare" and Craven told him he thought he wouldn't do it because he was a big star then. Depp said he absolutely would have done it! What a bummer!
