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Which Motor is the Fastest: ZERO 10X Motor vs Limited Motor vs 11X Motor

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We love to educate our audience on different things you can do on your ZERO scooters. It is perhaps the most versatile range of electric scooters you can find anywhere hence its amazing popularity as the upgrade options are endless!
In this video, we showcase the different motors in our ZERO X and Limited series. Using the same 60V setup from your ZERO 10X, we use 3 different types of motors: 1. the regular 1200W zero 10x 10 inch motor 2. the 1600W zero 10x limited 10 inch motor and 3. the 4500W zero XXX 11 inch limited motor.
Watch till the end if you are interested to see how all of them perform against each other.
To find out more about the ZERO range of X series motors and Limited motors, please check out:
11 inch high speed motor: www.falconpev.com.sg/products...
10 inch high speed motor: www.falconpev.com.sg/products...
For our ZERO 10X motor conversion kit: www.falconpev.com.sg/products...

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2 фев 2021

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@jasonscheid4055 3 года назад

another informative video, you guys have been an invaluable resource for good information in my journey into PEVs. keep them coming!

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

Thank you for the support

@loreak128 3 года назад

The motor RPM is based on voltage and motor KV so more amps/watts will not increase the max rpm. Knowing the motor KV would be useful for helping determine speed differences between the motors.

@innerfire369 2 года назад

What KV is these motors?

@swagrid0401 2 года назад

How many magnets does 11x have? My controller says 28 but I think I should higher that number to 30 but I'm not sure 11x have 30 magnets?

@motionislive5621 2 года назад

AMAZING

@Dreakx1 3 года назад

Very interesting..... When can I order the motors/controller/etc... to convert my non limited 11x :)

@air21511 3 года назад

my vsett9 is in yellow color, apparently some old pre-release version... and it would go faster than 33kmh in mode 3 usually, than out of the blue will go 38kmh, than 33kmh max again with super slow acceleration (over 25sec to get to 33kmh), than one time it allowed to go up 45kmh... - all on the same road, same weather temp, same day... Controller is nuts.. but seller won't respond to me :( Can you advice what is the normal expected speed for vsett9? (im 68kg only, and I saw it can go 45kmh when it is in a mood... I think I got a teenage girl controller lol) Can you help in any way?

@Syncere20 Год назад

In the video what kind of controller was used testing the first two motors ?

@swagrid0401 2 года назад

I buyed a zero 11x and in P08 it says 28 magnets. Is that correct or does 11x have 30 magnets?

@chronicalcultivation Месяц назад

I'd like to know if the limited motor would yield any considerable benefit for a 52V model like the VDM-10

@fortnitelegend2526 Месяц назад

I have the zero 10x 60v 21ah what can I do to get more power ? Do I have to get new controllers or can I give more watts with the stocks ?

@mitchlance5400 2 года назад

What is the easiest way to up the juice that the motors are receiving? I’m not looking to go crazy like you guys. Maybe just an extra 500 or 750. I know “ anything I do to my scoot, at the very least, voids my warranty (I Bought it used) and your not responsible for anything I might do” Thanks I appreciate your time…….

@maxshara 2 года назад

Hi what is the max watt the the 11 inch limited motor handle 4500x2? 9000 each motor?

@shaunauvaa6615 10 месяцев назад

Can i put the 11inch motor on my zero 11x? Is it plug and play

@almodz_3335 2 года назад

Hi I have a kaabo mantis scooter it has dual 1000 W motors Can I install the zero 10X limited motor on my kaabo mantis scooter? I would like a little more speed I have a 60v 18ah battery can you suggest some better motors that will work for my scooter please let me know I am a subscriber thank you love your videos hope to here from you soon

@quentin.martinet.1992 3 года назад

hooooo hell yeah i am so close to the real rpm regarding instagram game ! :D

@Clipper_Dames 3 года назад

Can I do straight swap for 60V 1200W motors to replace my old 52V 1000W motors? Or do I need to change other things as well like controller, battery?

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

Yes you can swap out the 1000W motors for 1200W motors but the difference in performance is not a lot

@jeffallen8135 3 года назад

I've just recently purchased a 52v zero 10x I use it around Cairns in Nth Queensland Australia. Wet tropics area. I'm happy with how it performs in almost all aspects. I've only traveled 90kms on it so far, but I've got two gripes about it. The first, how can you put a scooter out there that's not even basically water resistant, I mean if I get a shower of rain....no riding! Wet tropics area..Bad! Second bitch, not as bad. Charge the battery up full charge. 58.3v, goes awsome, at 52v it's fading, at 50 it starts to get disappointing at 48 I'm giving up. I'd like some advice? Jeff.

@orange42 3 года назад

Their telegram group, or one of the Zero facebook groups (like Redline2000 Zero) would be a more helpful forum for you. Falcon has a video up on waterproofing. On battery, do you have the 23Ah? It lasts better than the smaller version. Yes, about 46-47v stationary it will be dropping close to cutoff. Total range should be 40-50km.

@mosh0884 3 года назад

10inches motor 60v 1200w with rpm 1936 & 93kmph 60v 1600w with rpm 2692 & 130kmph 11inches motor 60v rpm 2179 wow amazing! if i will make 11inches tire the 60v limited, it will effect the speed?.

@KindredSupreme 3 года назад

Hey do you know if I can push 60v through the 10x 52v ? Reason I ask is because the motors already accept 60v so I'll just add another series on the battery thank for your reply

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

your controllers need to change too

@coreygilbert62 2 года назад

@@FalconpevSg hey I have a zero 8x could I swap to 10x controllers for a bit more umff

@user-vg9pq6yy2h 2 года назад

How can I use the 10 inch 1000W / 1200W motor for ZERO 10X instead of the 52v500w motor? Are there any parts required for replacement?

@FalconpevSg 2 года назад

Yes must be used together with the zero 10x controller

@JewishArchive 2 года назад

What about the 3200w motor 10 inch on your website?.. with the same current and voltage how will it compare to the 1600w motor? And will it have more torque?

@FalconpevSg 2 года назад

Same torque.

@JewishArchive 2 года назад

@@FalconpevSg ok thanks.. but if I will be pushing more than 3000W it will be better to get the 3200 motor right? (Planning on 60v 90 amp)

@robbie1212 3 года назад

Is it possible to swap 10X limited parts onto the 10X? Like Plug & Play?

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

The motors are plug and play-ish. But not the rest of the electronics like controllers and such.

@jozsi3534 2 года назад

Why not start the first engine only when I push the start Zero 10x

@danielcartagena7973 3 года назад

Hello good evening I'm watching from Philippines I have zoomer scooter carbon fiber but it's not working now maybe broken is electric motor? If buy that part how much?

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

we probably have that part on our website...check out www.falconpev.com.sg. if u have any more questions, do email us at sales@falconpev.com.sg. Good luck!

@antoine2814 2 года назад

Why motor of the z8 pro is so slow ? 48v and 500w but only 34 kmh .... Same speed of 36v Xiaomi pro 2 and 350w motor 😢

@ljubuski1 3 года назад

I'd like the 11 inch high speed motor for a scooter that i'm building from scratch. Emailed your customer support asking if i would be able run it with the grin phaserunner controller and got some generic bs answer, basically not really answering my question. Please let me know if i can run your 11 in high speed motor with the phaserunner, if not which controller do i need? Will be making my own battery to any voltage required. Thank you.

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

Hub Motors are generic by nature. They are either geared or gearless. If it’s gearless do they run hall or hall less? That’s decided by your controller but our motors can run with most controllers.

@ljubuski1 3 года назад

@@FalconpevSg I'm talking about the 11 inch motor in this very video. Hard for me to understand why you're asking me if the motor is geared or gearless or if it has hall sensors, since i'm talking about the 11 in motor that you guys sell. Once again, can i run it with phaserunner, or do i have to purchase a controller from you guys?

@ledgic1317 2 года назад

I believe he said their motors can run with most controllers... I myself plan on ordering a new replacement 11 rear motor

@TheMaKasss 2 года назад

Can I upgrade 10 inc motors to 11 inc for zero 10x? Does it provide more torque and more speed? Maybe lower power consumption?

@FalconpevSg 2 года назад

yes you need to get our conversion kit and 11 inch motor. lower power consumption for the same speed yes. but you will also very quickly want more torque to match the power the motor can provide but your controller will not able to handle the power and will cut off. hence you will need to also change controller. Oh but wait, your battery is not equipped to handle the increase in power too, so you may need a new battery too.

@TheMaKasss 2 года назад

@@FalconpevSg Okay :D But does it really gonna be so bad? The motor can't draw more power if the controller is max out. For my purpose I need bigger wheels and little more torque in up hill

@welnareviews9904 3 года назад

Hi guys do you guys have upgrade kits with new controller zero 10x / apollo pro

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

You can do our zero 10X limited or Evo kit but it’s quite a lot of work

@welnareviews9904 3 года назад

@@FalconpevSg thank you which kit, gives more acceleration power improvement. How much diffrwance is after the upgrade? And how much is it?

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

@@welnareviews9904 we can suggest going to the 11 inch motors, with our limited controllers. That’s about usd 1100 in upgrades.

@jozsi3534 2 года назад

If I turn off dual mode then I can go with it!

@Maykay1312 3 года назад

Cant wait for titan grup to start puting these motors on their stock zero 11x

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

Sorry to break it to you but titan isn’t the inventor of the zero. We created the zero and the scooters. Titan is only a trading company in fujian province that sells many other scooters including Kaboo and other ebikes. How can titan be making so many models of escooters and ebikes? Think about it. You have been lied to.

@Maykay1312 3 года назад

@@FalconpevSg fam they make em for these companies for kabbo for zero for phantom or how its called

@WHITELIONNYC 3 года назад

I think in general, not just limited to PEV's, too much emphasis is placed on speed/horsepower and not enough on torque. When researching PEV's I always ask for the torque nm of the motor. It's surprising how many PEV's costing thousands of dollars that have incredibly low torque...common value seems to be 68nm. I can order a plain simple bike from Costco for $300 and add a midmotor ebike conversion kit with 168nm. Which is what I will be doing. I want several PEV's though: ebike, escooter, e-kickscooter, euc, etc; one of each. Slowly but surely but first I'm purchasing safety gear. SAFETY FIRST!!! I do like very much Zero e-kickscooters: look great, good specs, reasonable price compared with the competition, and every single person I have met in NYC that has one gets excited when I ask them about it and they all highly recommend it. 💪🏻🤓😎🤓😎🤓😎🤓👍🏻

@Blox117 2 года назад

buddy that 168 nm is a lie. its added through gears its not the output of the motor

@klipschorny 2 года назад

So i can just throw zero 10x limited motors on my 10x 60v and get more speed?

@FalconpevSg 2 года назад

Yes but you may burn out your controllers as the motors take too much current

@klipschorny 2 года назад

@@FalconpevSg oh. Bummer.

@antonypartali 2 года назад

Do you know the winding of 6cm motor with 6 phase wires...??🤔 IF you know...........

@FalconpevSg 2 года назад

Sorry we are not sure

@antonypartali 2 года назад

@@FalconpevSgSorry guys,.. but without knowing the winding, how i will understand that the motor is for high speed or Torquay...? I see in your page and not even there writing anything... The difference from a 16*4 to 33*2 is huge ..

@RickyD1968 2 года назад

You should do the same test but with a load on it like if you were riding it !!!!!!!

@customer7575 Год назад

The actual speed is way lower when weight of person on scooter. Of course with scooter on a stand it's 10mph faster then when it's on the ground with me riding it.

@innerfire369 2 года назад

What is the KV of the 10-inch motor?

@FalconpevSg 2 года назад

Not sure but top speed of the 11 inch is 120kmh and 10 inch is 90kmh

@innerfire369 2 года назад

@@FalconpevSg I need KV to calculate total speed for specific volts, thanks.

@FalconpevSg 2 года назад

@@innerfire369 we don’t have the kV

@theairstig9164 2 года назад

As measured it’s 2000 rpm for about 50 volts. That would be very close to 40 rpm per volt. RC cars are in the thousands. You want start torque not Kv. Nobody sane wants to go 20 metres per second on an 11 inch wheel

@ctube8258 3 года назад

Great vid but isnt this a 10x vs 10x limited v 11x limited? Title says v stock 11x motor which is not actually featured in video.

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

Good observation and we did take a few liberties in a video but with good assumptions. The difference between the 11X stock motor and the 11x limited motor is not a lot in non riding unladen conditions. The 11x motor does not have hall sensors so it’s not very efficient at high speeds but that does not matter in unladen conditions. Also the stock 11X motor is not good in high current situations unlike the limited motor but again it doesn’t matter as unladen it does not require much current or generate much heat. This is purely a “lab” tests so we did take a few liberties.

@UKMrMedical 3 года назад

When is this motor out I would like to buy

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

It is available now

@UKMrMedical 3 года назад

@@FalconpevSg I have a 3200w scooter system 1600w front and back but my front motor has just gone I’m an more qualified to modify my frame etc if needed you got two motor more then 1600w each?

@FalconpevSg 3 года назад

@@UKMrMedical let’s take a look at your current motors