Which One Would I Pick: Honda Civic Type R or Hyundai Elantra N? 

Thank you for that! It’s part of the job

There are videos on the RU-vid showing the EN DCT beating both the type r and type s.

@MGN909 please send the links from a proper car journalist that shows its faster in a drag on the same day side by side, show 3....then show 1 link where any Hyundai is faster than the FL5 on a track...I will wait

⁠@@van_der_lindeDAI mean, that is some pretty ridiculous criteria. Anyway… If you want journalist results, just go check out the Car and Driver test results for each car. Type R has a 0-60 time of 4.9s and 1/4 mile time of 13.5s. Elantra N has a 0-60 time of.4.8s and a 1/4 time of 13.4s.

@Symphoniics so a auto is faster than a manual by .1... now show me where its faster on track

@@van_der_lindeDA There’s a Throttlehouse video of a non-octane learned EN 6MT barely losing to the Type R in a drag race. If octane learned, it would’ve been right next to the Type R. Now as far as track driving goes, the Type R will be faster most of the time, but for $10k less, the EN sure makes it quite competitive!

50k used 2023 in my area. Crazy times…

I can attest to that. Just bought a CTR and most dealers are going crazy with markups. I didn’t pay the $65k they were asking, but I wish I wasn’t so weak. I shouldn’t have paid even a dollar over MSRP.

2020 Veloster N here. Cheap childish entertainment. Not one single problem, but she does have a few minor mods. I am one of those people who does not mind going back to the office because I get to commute on curvy back roads!

K20C is an amazing engine. I choose a 10th Gen Accord 2.0t (K20C) over the N.

I still have my 2020 Veloster N. I hear you bud 💯

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Integra is lot easier to get than type r

Also I never modded my Elantra N

And I haft the DCT version

Plenty of EN owners including me had no issues with their cars and I have DCT.

@@SeudXe I can second that. Not a single creak either...

I can thrd that no problems at all

I agree, that's why I love my Veloster N

@@i.d.6492 I'm surprised that they canceled the Veloster N. I liked that car a lot more than the Elantra N. I almost pulled the trigger on one several years ago but I wanted AWD. I have a FWD turbo in my 2009 Corolla S.

I love the Corolla gr but they got to put an armrest in. 😂

@@shaananwalsh7513 That was easy enough to do myself. The on from SXTH Element works great. I just got back from a 5300 mile road trip and it was fantastic having it during the trip.

Wym they’ve been hinting on it it’s already confirmed to be the same 2.0T lol

How can the 2.0L already be confirmed when the 8th gen hasn’t even been announced yet??? They are still riding out the 7th gen with refresh’s… Now that is a LOL

I own both a 22EN DCT and a 22 Sonata N Line with the 2.5 and the EN is loads faster. The size of the engine isn’t the solution. It’s the tune on it. They would have to spend a lot of time and do a lot of testing to somehow make the 2.5 even close to the tune on the EN. I’ve beaten 3.0Ts and 3.3Ts plenty of times in my EN. Especially from a roll.

@@TheRealBobWillkins you really should contact Albert Biermann and pitch the idea of less displacement is better because of the tune 😂 The N-Line trim is never going to be a better performing car from the factory than the N. The N is their top tier performance line regardless of what engine they all might have…

@@thecamdenyardthe N-line 2.5t sonata makes more power than the Elantra N. Stock vs stock however the Elantra is more responsive and quicker but not faster on the top end. Sonata will chase it down at 140+mph. 2.5 does have more potential but needs the support from tuners. It’s also dual injected so with tuning it definitely has a higher performance ceiling than the motor in the current Elantra. As it stands today, it doesn’t have enough support so the 2.0 in the Elantra is the way to go for now

😂😂😂 I will ask you the same question....send me a link where the factory Type R has lost to any form of a hyundai on a circuit...send 3 links then write go from there.

so lets start with the fact that you obviously didnt read my comment correctly. i was talking at first about the fk8 vs the fl5. in that race there are plenty of videos you can look up on how from a dig the fl5 has a better take off being awd but in a roll the fk8 is quite a bit faster than the fl5. there are even videos you can look up with a quick search of "elantra n vs" and type whatever car you want to and see the outcomes of. the channel "throttle house" does a video where they do race between the two civics and it shows it clearly. heres one link to that video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EoQHeiR8Or0.html. im not doing anymore homework for you, i dont care if youre smart enough to know that truth or not. secondly i was talking about how the EN is also just as fast as the fk8 depending on the driver as there are also videos on here you can serach for that show this. i get it you love the honda and they are very nice cars but theyre also in the exact same league as the EN. theyre both in the top 5 fastest 2.0t cars on the market. thats a fact. stop getting all triggered and shit. have a nice day. @@van_der_lindeDA

@@TheRealBobWillkins hahahaha no one's triggered....the fact that you just stated the FL5 is AWD speaks volumes....enjoy your Hyundai

yah i was wrong on the awd part for sure. i looked it up. im not a honda guy its just what i thought i had read on it before. but if thats what you choose to focus on then idk what to tell you. your bunch of "hahas" def look triggered to me but you tell yourself what you need to. throttle house is a very credible source for cars with almost 3mil subs. whatever you claim to be credible is just opinion. everything else i said was indeed fact about both the civics speed and the hyundais. almost any "credible" source says how much they love the EN. i will in fact enjoy my car. do you even own a type r or are you just looking for attention? @@van_der_lindeDA

@@van_der_lindeDAyou’ve been tryna justify your overpriced purchase for a little while now lol I see you on every video about an Elantra N if you’re that obsessed with it why not just buy both btw I have a link of an full bolt on fk8 getting walked by a dp tuned and intake only EN if you want to see both are still great cars to have at the end of the day🤷🏾‍♂️

They are comparable. Just look at track times. The civic is the better track car for sure, but they are not that far apart at all.

Except the exhaust and back end

Not in price, lol.

Lemme correct that. 5% better in every aspect for $20k more.

​@@fusrodahing1993 type r can do the same just by changing the exhaust to aftermarket.

@@lukemothug Actually, that's not true. The engine itself is the problem. It just doesn't sound as loud, nor as good as the Theta 2 engine. The exhaust on the EN is just the icing on the cake

At 50K a lightly used Supra or a S650 for not much more will give you much more for your dollar.

@@jasoniviejr.7925 Maybe so, but I hate the “Supra”

Wouldn't say worth every penny more.. you can do a lot with 10-15k in mods that'll create an even better driving machine than the Type R

Lol ok waste you’re money.

@@JohnLee-db9zt *your

I picked up my 2024 CTR for msrp on Feb 20th 😅

I agree they aren't comparable in price, but the EN's performance definitely rivals the type R, and is a good bit faster than the price class you mentioned. I think our car just punches above its weight class in terms of price : )

wrong. i bought mine for 51K and couldve bought a blue one for 1k less but i wanted red specifically

50k for a civic is still a F my guy 😂​@StrongerThanEver84

@@StrongerThanEver84 still a lot of money 💰

@@maoinc13U got a point, but still in love with the looks of the Type S and if I got the money, I would payed full for it. Edit: oh and forget to mention, they’re way reliable.

It’s just my opinion, and I shared the same sentiment in my original review.

I get nothing but compliments and neck breaking on my Elantra N LOL it's very subjective looks wise, I think people hate on it lowkey cause it's the new kid on the block

Lol I know right. People tell me all the time how nice my elentra is.

I understand that the EN is a fun and good performance car for its price but it seriously gives off young ricer vibes with all the pops. The styling is atrocious as well

@BDA0531 like I said looks are very subjective most people that tell me my car looks beautiful dont know what it is

But you don't dream of a gr corolla?

​​@lukemothug , I'd be happy with either. Type R has the edge since I live in FL. There's no snow and perfect roads. If I lived in a snow state, 100% GR.

It has been awhile, and I’m frankly disappointed at myself for not remembering to include it in my comparison. I do recall having a great time shifting in the Miata, though this Honda’s shifter feels awesome. Good call!

Sorry the Hondas is better....

no better or worse between type r and miata. they are both quite different and both have their pros @@van_der_lindeDA

@@2688elmo FL5 gearbox and gearing is next level over any miata

No, it's not

Wait until that tranny goes and it will. Hyundai is not good for honoring warranties either or getting parts 🤣. While a better driver in the civic walks you.

Nice you know how to drive an automatic that’s rated .4 sec faster 0-60 and slower in a quarter mile by 1 second even with the fl5s better downforce and increased drag. Curious to know what you’re “drag race” looks like cuz I’m doubting you’re launching a fwd car stock

Bro is bragging about a standstill drag race in an automatic vs a manual😂. Sure enough both fk8 and fl5 would start to creep up regardless and WILL pass you given they are more powerful. Same concept when your driving on the highway/freeway or normal road conditions since you don’t have to launch the car. On a roll/ in motion driving it will walk you detrimentally again given it’s more powerful and the fact that you don’t need to launch the car. Realistically speaking if the type r came with a DCT there would be no competitor other than the Golf R.

@Ace20001216 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ryBld0_KxlE.htmlsi=grGNhDQo14iw6nVO Elantra N beat your godly type R. It still stands an EN in DCT form is better in every way than the FL5 lol especially if it's octane learned. Drag racing is just a plus faster than that overpriced honda.

​@@Ace20001216the Honda would not pass the elentra. That wing slows it down causing drag. The elentra gets to 150mph faster than the type r.

Unless you have driven both, you can't respond to this question objectively.

@@stefanb974 lol

Driven both, own fl5 and it wins in all categories. By how much, that's up to you. Driving wise it objectively is faster and more fun especially in manual. Elantra N is superior if you keep it stock IMO because you get the warranty and much cheaper. Not much aftermarket like honda unfortunately.@@stefanb974

E N DCT the better car, only the fanboys keep Honda price elevated, E N the future.

@@mrnobodytheuser2950 lol

I mean looks great IDK for a hatchback, looks unique and aggressive, Love it.

For the difference in price Hyundai could probably throw in another engine.

No wonder I see a lot kia/Hyundai on bed truck than Honda.

At the Elantra price still around 20K difference with the R. You can buy another one!😁😁😁

Yup new civic engines are trash, meant to be kept stock unless built. K series if you wanna go fast modded.

@@Jcastro9444 The thing thats sad their new K series is designed well but using really cheap alloy. Its extremely ductile. Any extra force causes it to warp. It all started when they got an American Ceo to replace the Japanese one. Edit: I found out he is Japanese too which makes no sense since Japan usually doesn't follow the customs as of North America.

Sounds like an incompetent tuner or bad driver.

@@ljohnson9440 He owned two bmws, a K24 civic turbo and the brand new supra. Stop defending a bad engine…

Too many people running high HP #'s for you to be pushing that crap. Again poor tuning and lack of knowledge.@@MJT-DA

E N just more bang for your buck, het at least Civic will probably hold better resale thnx to fan boys.

But the thing is as an EN owner myself. For the price the type-R should clearly be better but the fact that it’s not and it’s only marginally better. But hey you do you, whether you or any of the other Type-R fanboys feel or think I have pulled on FK8’s and FL5’s in a straight line. So why don’t you justify the type R being 8-12k more?

Sorry dude but EN all the way !!

@@mrnobodytheuser2950 id agree to that the EN definitely good for the price

@@ctcdarkness no need to justify anything for the markup, a markup is the markup. I'm okay in paying the price I'm comfortable paying. good for you, you're a great driver going fast in a straight line in an automatic car not engineered to go in a straight line lmao

1. Dealer markups are market and time dependent. Can’t control what the markup will be at the time of the video or 3 years from now… so I can only go by msrp info because that is known. 2 manual trans opinion came from actually driving all that I listed, if you grind your gears, I’d look at your own driving. 3 Hyundai comes with longer warranty for original owner, true, but I make no claim that it is superior or worse than Honda’s in this video.

​@@ShiftingLanesWhile it is true that you cant know what the markup will be, but it's almost certain that there will be a significant markup and you've never mentioned that fact when you said the Civic is only $10k more. Everyone whos actually in the market knows this isnt true so should you. This is the disconnect between car reviewers and actual consumers. I'm just saying know who your audience are. Look into Type R 2nd gear grinding issue, it's widespread amongst Type R owners and Honda has been ignoring them. Yes, you've never mentioned Hyundai's superior warranty, which is another reason why I believe this review was bias and incomplete. Just take it as constructive criticism. You risk alienating a lot of people who don't want to pay stupid prices for a car that's supposed to be in the affordable range.

Got my fl5 at msrp, my brother got his fk8 at msrp. Fl5 has no gear grinds. I've also driven the veloster N which is practically the same as the elantra. @@tommylee4135

Have you ever used the transmission in an FK8/FL5? Lol, there's a reason this transmission is compared to those of the Porsche GT4.

@@tommylee4135 you really like to hit pick to much, how about you do reviews yourself? Please provide proof of the “2nd gear grind issue” amongst type r owners. Also, if you already know mark ups are a thing, then there is no harm in comparing vehicles by MSRP because the price of a car can be dependent on the time of year. You sound very bitter

I guess I’m not in my right mind because after having my FK8 for over 3 years I’m wanting a EN in DCT

Please grow up 😂

Civic Type Rs are track cars. So to only judge them by drag race is futile and stupid

Sounds like broke Kia owner to me

Bro you really sound so so immature 😂