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Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Gameplay Trailer just dropped and it’s packed FULL of information. We breakdown hidden details from in the DLC gameplay trailer. Elden Ring is a 2022 action role-playing game developed by FromSoftware. It was directed by Hidetaka Miyazaki with worldbuilding provided by fantasy writer George R. R. Martin!
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0:00 Intro
1:52 St Trina
4:55 True Identity
7:42 Conclusions
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@Ziostorm
@Ziostorm 15 дней назад
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@Blackyankii
@Blackyankii 15 дней назад
Am I the only one interested in "the formless mother"?
@r3gret2079
@r3gret2079 15 дней назад
Perchance, the question is not "is St. Trina a man?" But rather "is Miquella a girl?" Hmmm? Lol
@__Kurobei___
@__Kurobei___ 15 дней назад
i have seen a theory that i actually do believe that melina is actually st. trina with st. trina being in the same boat as radagon being a segment of one persons personality that was fully and completely disconnected from them and turned into its own person. the reasons for this are varried and the video i got this idea from is here and everyone should go watch it not just to support the creator of this theory but also to get WAAAYYYY more evidence than i can give in a youtube comment ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zZwct5XkWHA.html beyond this though the part about melina being in the same boat as radagon is a thought i came up with personally and i will say the original theory creator i feel is missing a lot of lore understanding to flesh out the idea properly but i do agree with the baseline thought that melina is st. trina and st. trina was once simple just another name for miquella before at some point he decided to split himself the same way his mother marika did
@Hiddenhand1
@Hiddenhand1 11 дней назад
St.Trina = Medusa
@theMAN3554
@theMAN3554 10 дней назад
great game. played it before the full release. did not once cross my mind that is not yet a full release.
@NumberD2000
@NumberD2000 15 дней назад
Super stoked Miyazaki confirmed St. Trinas appearance. Must not go hollow
@mrxxsesshomaruxx9642
@mrxxsesshomaruxx9642 14 дней назад
Could it be a boss?
@alejohp8725
@alejohp8725 15 дней назад
Okay: predicting the next swamp is a sleep-inducing mess where enemies constantly kick your ass. At the end, you gotta fight St. Trina.
@Vihbe-Chaan
@Vihbe-Chaan 15 дней назад
This is it
@debiluspegus8236
@debiluspegus8236 15 дней назад
I have some issues with the idea of fighting Trina, like, she's described as a young girl, maybe a child, doesn't seem... Menacing, but fromsoftware did make us fight a newborn, so, I may be wrong
@alejohp8725
@alejohp8725 15 дней назад
@@debiluspegus8236 if it’s an alter ego of Miquella that maybe went rough, it’ll probably be a terrifying, creepy, pale-skinned caster girl. Probably quite disturbing, actually.
@debiluspegus8236
@debiluspegus8236 15 дней назад
@@alejohp8725 you've got a point, I guess we will know next month
@skyyameYT
@skyyameYT 15 дней назад
That butterfly spell in the trailer looks like it would be a boss drop from her…
@sulfenir2477
@sulfenir2477 15 дней назад
miquellas adult form is described as unnerving because it contradicts his curse of forever being a child.
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
To me it's subtext on their slumber effects manipulating afferant nerves regulating the pineal gland.
@CrematedCube
@CrematedCube 15 дней назад
One last bit of St. Trina lore that flew under the radar here is the Dolores the Sleeping Arrow Puppet: "One of Seluvis's favorite puppets. Spirit of a handsome archer who dressed in the style of a man. Called the Silent Hunter by some, she fires St. Trina's arrows from her shortbow." "Dolores once belonged to the Roundtable Hold, where she was both a critic and a friend of Gideon the All-Knowing. It was because of her that he and Seluvis went their separate ways." The full story is likely just as complex as Radagon and Marika, but I highly doubt Trina is merely an alias of Miquella. At this point I mostly regard them as two characters merged together instead of a single split character On the whole I believe she comes from an older time than Miquella, with hidden ties to the Albinaurics and their specialty of archery. Particularly when Miquella lilies appear to be modified Trina lilies instead of vice versa.
@davidadams8147
@davidadams8147 15 дней назад
Someone make ziostorm read this
@coreyhansen9711
@coreyhansen9711 14 дней назад
Nothing about this dialogue suggests Dolores is St Trina. In fact it specifies that Dolores "...fires St Trina's arrows..." Literally saying that they aren't her arrows but the arrows of St Trina. The "Silent Hunter" part also isn't mentioned or hinted at anywhere else in the game so for now it holds zero significance.
@CrematedCube
@CrematedCube 14 дней назад
@@coreyhansen9711 I wasn't claiming Dolores to be St. Trina herself, just a follower and representative. However, she is the *only* St. Trina specialist we know of, outside of cut content.
@javierchanart
@javierchanart 13 дней назад
St Trina is a mimic
@GriffinTwo
@GriffinTwo 15 дней назад
Ohhh Elden ring, a truly special Game
@yunkinto
@yunkinto 15 дней назад
Almost my entire recommended is elden ring lore and theories and i love it
@glowindark64
@glowindark64 15 дней назад
Based
@FelipeSantos-wu1uf
@FelipeSantos-wu1uf 14 дней назад
I consume Elden Ring lore like water
@loblo5542
@loblo5542 15 дней назад
I can't wait to know more about St.Trina in the DLC
@valentinvas6454
@valentinvas6454 15 дней назад
This is the first time where I'm almost as interested in the lore of a new FromSoft content as in the gameplay. This time I'm gonna read descriptions like crazy.
@motivationnation771
@motivationnation771 15 дней назад
6 weeks to go boys!!! Don't you dare go hollow!!!
@jakeforgey5378
@jakeforgey5378 4 дня назад
I am recovering from Hollowing, farming rats to regain my Humanity...
@wastefox9100
@wastefox9100 15 дней назад
St.Trina can be the teacher of Miquella. adult St.Trina = St.Trina as the teacher child St.Trina = Miquella as the scholar
@asiblingproduction
@asiblingproduction 14 дней назад
So, kinda like Ranni and the Snow Crone? or Malenia and the Water Dancer (less so). The student taking on the image of the master?
@wastefox9100
@wastefox9100 14 дней назад
@@asiblingproduction Yes, like that.
@zackdoom
@zackdoom 14 дней назад
I like this theory a lot
@Ellemonadze
@Ellemonadze 14 дней назад
Maybe we think too much and St. Trina is just another outer god. Miquella is the vessel for the outer god of sleep like Malenia to the God of rot. And he doesn't know how to get rid of it or doesn't want to because of his charming powers
@wastefox9100
@wastefox9100 14 дней назад
@@Ellemonadze I don't think so. The outer gods have no names and depictions like St.Trina. And why have we an adult and an child form? Maybe there is a god of sleep, but it's not St.Trina.
@titaniumteddybear
@titaniumteddybear 15 дней назад
The Elden RIng IS the Elden Beast. And we know that the shape of the Elden Ring has changed over time. Does that mean the Elden Beast looked different when they first came to the Lands Between?
@Someone-fv3iv
@Someone-fv3iv 15 дней назад
Potentially :)
@SDSypher
@SDSypher 15 дней назад
1000%.
@ignorethefrymen
@ignorethefrymen 15 дней назад
I think Miquella's mere presence has unnerved people. In this case, I believe being entranced by him would be a loss of a power to act.
@chardude
@chardude 15 дней назад
If I had to guess the reason their Adult form is unnerving is because they're awake. The middle eye is open, which usually represents an enlightened mind. Then they have mist like tendrils coming off that eye and making 2 more eyes on the top Left & Right. They're super awake lol
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
I think they're also unnerving as reference to the control of sleep through the pineal gland via nervous system. Don't understand what the #8 is about, for a few ideas but not sure anyone else is really guessing what tf Trina and octopodes have in common
@bladeoflucatiel
@bladeoflucatiel 15 дней назад
I'm pretty much a hollow at this point. I hope I can maintain my humanity and sanity until the DLC drops.
@PMKru
@PMKru 14 дней назад
Bruh 1 Month Wont Kill You. Damn Life Gotta Be Sad If Elden Ring Is Controlling You Line A Addict 😂
@erin1569
@erin1569 15 дней назад
Your and Ziostorm's content are so similar I sometimes can't tell on whose channel I am on
@clodomirchibreluisant7079
@clodomirchibreluisant7079 15 дней назад
maybe it is unnerving to depict st. Trina as an adult because miquella was cursed with eternal youth
@mocho4487
@mocho4487 15 дней назад
What if the character we see lying in that purple swamp in the trailer is one of Santa Trina's clerics?
@Darkheart00
@Darkheart00 15 дней назад
Although I do think we’ll meet Trina Clerics. I think the specific character you’re talking about will actually be a “follower” (a fan boy lol). I could be very well wrong here, but the sleeping NPC’s mannerisms come across as an unpredictable state of sleep. Almost as if they were searching for Trina, and just fell asleep right on the spot in their presence. I imagine a cleric would probably have more control over their sleep, and therefore look more comfortable in their sleep than what is shown in the trailer… unless that’s just how clerics sleep, in that case I’m still excited anyways lmao. But I’m waffling, don’t listen to me lol
@Claymore_17
@Claymore_17 14 дней назад
The purple flames of st Trina's torch and the colour of black flame once being purple is definitely interesting. I personally wouldn't be surprised if st Trina is connected to the gloam eyed queen.
@mariacostello-xr2ec
@mariacostello-xr2ec 15 дней назад
Its possible that mohg was bewitched by miquella
@Lee-km7qq
@Lee-km7qq 15 дней назад
It could be a similar situation as Ranni and the snow witch where Miquella was taught some of the things he knows by St. Trina who was the woman everyone saw, and Miquella was the boy everyone saw.
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
same person imo (Renna & Trina)
@dozingoldman
@dozingoldman 12 дней назад
It does say they weren't sure if Trina was "a comely young girl" tho. Not a full grown woman
@ZanukaV
@ZanukaV 15 дней назад
check out the shield of the guilty, when equipped it gives you resistance to frenzy and sleep and if you look at it, the guilty maiden depicted has a striking resemblance to st trina
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt 15 дней назад
The only thing about this is that the description says the maiden depicted got their eyes crushed by briars of sin before being reborn in the Lands Between. The closest in-game character similar to this is Hyetta/Irina since I doubt Miquella was reborn in the Lands Between. And even then, Hyetta saying her eyes are melting when you give her the FoF makes me think it's not even her on the shield unless the eyes getting crushed doesn't mean she no longer has them so they can still melt. The Focus increase is likely from the symbolism of having your eyes destroyed.
@ryankhosravi3136
@ryankhosravi3136 15 дней назад
It would be sick if the DLC, with the introduction of that pink magic, had some Miquella charm spells - similar to the bewitching branch
@Travar1410
@Travar1410 15 дней назад
"Quite the habit".. it sounds like sleep is used as a drug imo. I can see how they see him as extremely dangerous. (Adult st Trina) also, have you ever been deprived of sleep? It's like your tripping on acid.. just from not sleeping. Imo, no sleep, is the worst "drug" effect.
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt 15 дней назад
Being deprived of sleep sounds similar to madness in the game and how the same stat manages that defense in-game lol
@Darkheart00
@Darkheart00 15 дней назад
@@DanielGarcia-rx3kt it’s funny you mention that. Both Sleep status and Madness status have the exact same picture, just that Sleep has an eye that’s closed and Madness has an eye that’s open. Sleep and Madness seem directly anathema to eachother. This is also semi-reinforced with how Madness inflicted people in the Lands Between find peace in Sleep (Trina’s Lily’s are all over madness themed areas)
@Solar_WolfGaming
@Solar_WolfGaming 15 дней назад
You're correct, it's sounds strikingly similar to a drug called Ether. Once made as a recreational alcohol like brew, it gained a reputation later for being used in a clinical setting as a pain relieving anesthetic used in early medicine. Though known to be addictive, it's quite habit forming indeed.
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
​@@DanielGarcia-rx3ktbeing deprived of sleep is ironically put me on to half my Trina beliefs
@juniorpadovani
@juniorpadovani 15 дней назад
The carving on the sword looks just like Melina at frenzied flame's end
@SDSypher
@SDSypher 15 дней назад
it looks like Melina in general
@godly_potatoe69xd19
@godly_potatoe69xd19 15 дней назад
What’s crazy is that the commonly accepted idea is that st trina and miquella are the same , but Miyazaki kinda made it sound like st Trina wasn’t the same as miquella. even without cut content the game makes it seem like they’re the same and he knows that we think that, but instead said “they are distinct entities with a close relationship, and more about this relationship will be revealed in the dlc” (approximation of what he said) so that makes it sound like it’s more nuanced than just them being the same like radagon and marika and we have it wrong. But idk maybe it was the translation or he just gaslight and pretended we didn’t know she was miquella.
@Darkheart00
@Darkheart00 15 дней назад
I’ve always held down the idea that they were never the same “person”. The game suggested, to me at least, that St. Trina may be something more than Marika/Radagon - but a separate God entirely
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
I think it's that Miquella is or was one of the parts of trina.
@Musexe
@Musexe 15 дней назад
I'm not that deep with the lore.. but something tells me st trina is Miquella like his alter ego or something
@welby4296
@welby4296 15 дней назад
Thats the almost universally agreed upon thing in the community. Definitely get familiar with the lore before dlc it'll probably make it a lot better
@dylanmahon2394
@dylanmahon2394 15 дней назад
ShERLoCk hOMeS?!
@raymondbellamy6497
@raymondbellamy6497 15 дней назад
Dude must be using internet explorer
@Practicallypreposterous
@Practicallypreposterous 15 дней назад
​@@raymondbellamy6497 let them cook
@COHOFSohamSengupta
@COHOFSohamSengupta 15 дней назад
Bro update your browser
@aric8027
@aric8027 15 дней назад
On the close up of Miquella's and Trina's Lillys - you can see that Miquella's almost seems like like Trinas - but with new root growing growing from the bottom up, sapping life from the leaves, and sprouting a new bud out of the end of the flower. I've never seen it in such detail until now. I think Miquella is in control of the tree that is sapping the other of it's life in the shadow of the erdtree trailer.
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt 15 дней назад
It's a compelling thought, actually. Miquella may have helped Radagon learn to use his vines like in Zio's Minor Erdtree Church video speculating that Miquella studied GOF there and may have given Radagon that incantation he invented. The trees there show vines and golden boughs so why couldn't Miquella take that and use it to drain the Erdtree of its color like stated in Castle Sol?
@fourdayz1414
@fourdayz1414 15 дней назад
Oh WOW I never noticed that until you pointed it out. I almost wonder if it reflects a bit of his ideals. Something like learning/absorbing things and using it to create something that is perfect and pure (and golden) in his eyes. He researched Fundamentalism and it wasn’t the solution he needed so he created his own Erdtree (and likely his own order). So maybe he tried to do the same with St. Trina and her teachings. I’d guess maybe this is how he learned to “compel affection” if it wasn’t already an innate ability of his
@Chessheromusic
@Chessheromusic 14 дней назад
It never says st Trina is female Only that people's description that Trina may be a small boy or a woman This doesn't give a definite fact in either direction. So st Trina may not be a woman
@kithugomusic
@kithugomusic 15 дней назад
Since there looks to be a sleep inducing swamp, and St. Trina is confirmed to appear I wonder if we will be able to go to sleep somewhere (at site of grace or the like) to be able to see her in our sleep. Since that’s seems to be where people have met her. 😴
@kientmartin5447
@kientmartin5447 15 дней назад
Another awesome break time lore video. Love the vids @ziostorm.
@alexanderericson8628
@alexanderericson8628 15 дней назад
Love your work
@HijoDelHongo
@HijoDelHongo 15 дней назад
Just speculation with nothing to base it off of - perhaps the super sleepy sleepy boi in the DLC trailer IS Fevor
@BudravenOG
@BudravenOG 15 дней назад
I'm curious how St. Trina is connected to Dolores the Sleeping Arrow puppet. The description reads: Spirit of a handsome archer who dressed in the style of a man. Called the Silent Hunter by some, she fires St. Trina's arrows from her shortbow. Dolores once belonged to the Roundtable Hold, where she was both a critic and a friend of Gideon the All-Knowing. It was because of her that he and Seluvis went their separate ways.
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt 15 дней назад
Dolores might very well be a cleric of St. Trina's then. That's what is significant of the use of those arrows: spreading Trina's teachings.
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
It's just speculation from my schema of Trina but there's possible context woven in. "Fires" Trina quells frenzy flame, "Silent Hunter" vs trina's Sound & Healer, "both". All basic blatant thematic possibilities Lots of big subtext hints here, IF you're open to overanalyzing every word and syllable. I mean that literally, stop reading now unless you enjoy linguistics, creative thinking and time wasting. Ik the mf who can't read will still @ me a reply, I tried 🤷‍♂️ You'll pick up a lot of meaningless drivel. A perfect example, I know you didn't see the words Siofra, Ainsel and Uhl in the description. Mostly because they're not written, but they very well can be hidden. YES some of this is going to be contrived, I'm going to play with cadence, phonetics, and enunciation. I think that's what lyricists and authors do, it's how you craft subtext. It's also how I deconstruct subtext. "... (she fir)es St."she fir/sh-ee fur-uh/Siofra "... the sty(le) of" style / ss-tye-ull / Uhl "... (and Sel)uvis" and Sel/aind Sel / Ainsel I know those 3 are separate but intertwined, they share some generic thematic prevalence of; nascent butterflies, Trina's Lily, archery, the nox, singing et al. Generic connection, if there was even intent and affilliation, but this is the way I look at text when trying to deduce every ounce of information I can. I don't expect others to do this, and as I've prefaced, because we're an opinionated community- this is more for entertainment than practical.It's the equivalent of walking around the beach with a metal detector, not running Miyazaki & Martin's brain through the fucking Rosetta Stone
@TJuice1986
@TJuice1986 15 дней назад
Another great video, keep them coming! 👊🏻
@biancaratu3858
@biancaratu3858 14 дней назад
something interesting about miquella and saint trina is that in real life, the hormone that allows physical growth, the GH hormone, only gets secreted during sleep, which both explains the cause for miquella's eternal youth and the need for an alter ego that could fulfill the lack of sleep
@BrassPetals3Voices
@BrassPetals3Voices 15 дней назад
Have you looked closely at the statues at the Precipice of Anticipation? There is a small one up in the arches of the Grafted arena and along the walls an adult man statue in long hooded robes. The columns along the walls depict a man tending to two intertwined trees. Those two show up together again outside of the area where Godwyn’s head is. Just before you enter the aggro area down there the adult one is now in bad shape with his face blasted off. The little one is at his feet, missing its head. Marika’s two golden children Godwyn and Miquella? G & M seem to have some relationship to Trina and Gloam Eyed Queen (fish tails on GEQ door in Caelid). I wonder if GEQ and Trina are related in a sleep/death way? We see people like Ranni, Rogier, Fia and the Direwolf trapped in sleep too.
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
I think they're the same
@asianwhiteguy3472
@asianwhiteguy3472 14 дней назад
Nice investigative work as usual 👍
@alcoyot
@alcoyot 15 дней назад
There’s a theme in this game of becoming too consumed with something and being destroyed by it. Like those crystal sorceress who end up turning into crystal. Also whatever happened to Radahn. He became like an avatar of the gold, the energy kind of became his body. Then there’s what happens when you get too into dragon magic, or frenzy flame. It’s all people who become consumed and destroyed when they go too far.
@PMKru
@PMKru 14 дней назад
That Big Purple Flower Field In The Trailer Is Where Miquella/St. Trina Will Be! Cant Wait To See It
@Solar_WolfGaming
@Solar_WolfGaming 15 дней назад
That's exactly why the item description for the bewitching branch is so misleading. It's all recipes for sleep potions, so it's meant to be a calming tranqilizing agent used to soothe and quell aggression. It makes sense why Miquella's needle is also used in the same way for the scarlet rot and frenzied flame. It's the calmness that keeps your wits about you in the heat of battle or the sleep aid needed for inducing a restful dreamstate. Distilled from water lilies to create a sleep inducing drug with similar affects to alcohol. He's making a pain relieving anesthetic called Ether to treat patients as a doctor in a clinic would. (The downside however being that its addictive and highly flammable) Interesting Bloodborne similarity with the purple mist as well. St. Trina is definitely a healer which aligns well with the idea of Miquella wanting to help people and creating his Haligtree or "Healing" tree 😊👍
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
I've been pretty sure for a while now the Isoquinoline Alkaloid of a specific plant was an inspiration
@geoffreyletch8121
@geoffreyletch8121 15 дней назад
An interesting video bro, it's a complicated story 😮😊
@amielcabalbag6013
@amielcabalbag6013 15 дней назад
As always love these kinds of content about the lore and can't wait for the DLC stay safe everyone!
@KuraSourTakanHour
@KuraSourTakanHour 15 дней назад
Hopefully sleep builds become more varied and viable with the new content. I feel like that sleep swamp area will have respawning Trina's Lillies
@Greywander87
@Greywander87 14 дней назад
I've looked at a St. Trina build before, but there just doesn't seem to be much to support it. The sword and torch use different stats (INT vs. FTH), there's very few spells that fit, and very little gear with purple and silver. If only we could change the colors and emblems on equipment. I'm confident the DLC will give us more options. TBH, I think all harvestables should have been on a timer to respawn. I know it's a thing with Souls games to respawn everything when you rest at the bonfire, I just don't think that was a good fit in this particular instance. It makes it too easy to farm some ingredients, and extremely difficult to farm others like St. Trina's Lilies that don't respawn.
@KevD720
@KevD720 14 дней назад
Maybe the things connected to miquella aren’t respawning is because he’s not still in the lands between spreading them (pause)
@Chaos49thlord
@Chaos49thlord 14 дней назад
There’s one point I would’ve added was cleanrot knights are very close in relation to miquella, and the knights drop both Trina lily and miquella Lilly
@DCkogsch
@DCkogsch 16 дней назад
Uhm, this is video is only on the playlist, but not under new videos. Anyway, thanks for the vid.
@Ziostorm
@Ziostorm 15 дней назад
Guess you got a sneak peek😅
@walkervotis6834
@walkervotis6834 15 дней назад
Bro actually watched this a day ago lol
@DCkogsch
@DCkogsch 15 дней назад
:)
@BoiBlaketh
@BoiBlaketh 14 дней назад
Great video, I’m hyped for this DLC ☝🏼 What is that chest/cape piece at around 3:40?!
@Darkheart00
@Darkheart00 14 дней назад
The Albinauric Women’s chest armour. You can farm them at the Consecrated Snowfield
@MuertaEterna
@MuertaEterna 15 дней назад
Yooooo about time
@dayvsonmacel2
@dayvsonmacel2 15 дней назад
Hey Ziostorm, i have a suggestion for a video which, honestly, would be pretty cool imo. Can you make a video about all (or the most popular) unanswered lore questions? Or the most popular misteries we expect to get a conclusion after the the DLC?
@michaeljohnston8891
@michaeljohnston8891 14 дней назад
Cool detail I noticed about the Sword of Saint Trina. Although its iconography is heavily associated with St. Trina and sleep, it actually has a real world counterpart. Tizona, or Tizón, was the sword of errant knight-turned-crusader Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar, more commonly known as El Cid, a transliteration of his title given to him by the Spanish Moors, as-Sayyid. El Cid was originally a mercenary who fought for both the Spaniards and the Moors in their wars over the Spanish peninsula in the late 11th century, although he would later come to ally himself fully with Spain in their Reconquista. Also notable about El Cid (in relation to Elden Ring), was his legendary warhorse Babieca. There’s disagreement on how he came to own this horse, but one poem describes Babieca as being a “gift from a barbarian”.
@Nathan_Coley
@Nathan_Coley 15 дней назад
V-Rising is super fun! Been playing since it showed up on early access, 1.0 release should be even better!
@Sablemae76
@Sablemae76 15 дней назад
I think st. Trina will be our guide like Melina at graces and telling us about marika and miquellas path
@nathanpatnode7671
@nathanpatnode7671 15 дней назад
I know sacred blade isn't a unique skill, but given that it is the skill on the Miquellan Knight sword and the mists of slumber skill on St Trina sword uses the same animation as sacred blade, this could point to another connection between Miquela and Trina
@Ziostorm
@Ziostorm 14 дней назад
Good point!
@PoGeRz69
@PoGeRz69 15 дней назад
I love watching lore videos sharing them with my friend
@louissnipe6778
@louissnipe6778 15 дней назад
Cant wait for chasethebro to use saint trina's torch.
@oduttagupta
@oduttagupta 13 дней назад
Surprized you didn"t talk about Slumbering Egg. This item is quite rare to find and its description is very intriguing. "Owl eggs that will never hatch. Prized as a symbol of the most sublime slumber." This could be either a reference to Miquella's eternal childhood or Renalla Slumbering Egg.
@erikreber3695
@erikreber3695 15 дней назад
I think we will he his/her clerics in the dlc. "My brother will keep his promise. He possesses the wisdom, the allure, of a god - he is the most fearsome Empyrean of all.”
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
I think we always were, straight from the beginning. Just a Mimic and a sole Saint
@raymondcaswell5622
@raymondcaswell5622 15 дней назад
Hey Zio. Gonna throw this one out there for you. Lilies are a "hermaphroditic flower." Miquella is one and the same. Upon birth, he/she would have been treated like a god in the same manor as Markia and Radagon (Rebis). Only issue is Miquella was cursed, like all of Marika's children. You have to be dead to become a "saint," so Miquella is similar to Ranni and Melina. A spirit in a sense. Don't be surprised to see a "lily" over Mequilla's left eye in the same way you see that crow claw over Melina's eye (GEQ). You kinda of see something over Ranni's eye but it's hard to make out. Anyway, finding out about the whole St.Trina thing and how they are a part of Miquella should be interesting.
@thenobody7509
@thenobody7509 5 дней назад
St trina is probably an aspect of miquella that got split off from him. Which might explain radagon is marika thing. Radagon is an aspect of marika which was split off
@ROR5CH4CH
@ROR5CH4CH 11 дней назад
This DLC and the wait for it keeps me going with writing my Thesis. Because I know the earlier I finish that, the earlier I'll be able to play this!
@stefanjackson1127
@stefanjackson1127 14 дней назад
My theory is that Miquella's plan is to fuse with Messmer to become a god of the Shadow plane (the soul realm). In Alchemy and Hermeticism it's worth looking into the Alchemical Wedding. Miquella and Messmer are 2 sides of the same coin. Like Marika and Radagon. I believe Marika and Radagon were once separate and she ascended her qualities that made her the other half of Radagon. I believe they fused in the same principal of the Alchemical Wedding. I think each Empyrean has a plane they must belong on. There are 3 general planes of exiatence: the physical, the astral / mind, and the soul. I believe each Empyrean aligns wirh this; Malenia being the physical plane where she is a swordswoman who's main deal is decay, rot and rebirth. Ranni being the Astral / mind / psychic. And Miquella being of the soul. Based on this I believe the butterflies represent each Empyrean. Since we're on the Lands Between I believe we are on the Astral (Ranni's) plane. I think Miquella knew this and that's why he never chose to fight Ranni because he knew it was her plane to begin with. The Astral plane is the 2nd stage in the cycle: Physical > Astral > Soul, so it would make sense it would be the Lands Between. I think Ranni and Miquella (maybe Malenia too) all conspired in the Night of the black knives. My theory beforehand is that Marika made it impossible for the Empyreans to leave to their respective planes because she didn't want to lose any children and broke the cycle. I believe across the other planes there will be respective "other half" Empyreans for both Ranni and Malenia too. - I have a dew more ideas that seem to go with these theories and make sense. Between looking at Jungian Psychology, Hermeticism, Alcehmy, Tarot, Kyballah and the Rosicrucians, there is some real similarities.
@ShadowProject01
@ShadowProject01 15 дней назад
I wonder if the NPC’s feet we see at the cocoon in the trailer belong to Fevor.🤔
@Mar032891
@Mar032891 14 дней назад
Perhaps only Miqueloas body is cursed and upon exiting and relinquishing his body he is free of the curse
@beanking2702
@beanking2702 15 дней назад
St trina will be to miqula just as radagon is merika they are and aren't the same
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
Okay but what does that mean to you dude. 2 souls, 2 mind, 1 body? Together since forever or joined later on.
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt
@DanielGarcia-rx3kt 15 дней назад
Thinking of that Miquella is Melina video, I wonder if perhaps Melina is Miquella's divestiture of everything Golden? I only think of that because of the scar on St. Trina's face on the torch and considering it was likely made when the Haligtree was being grown then perhaps it was before Miquella went to the Land of Shadows? Melina being his incantation/faith side of the equation with Trina being intelligence/sorcery could be a very compelling thought given Miquella explored Golden Order Fundamentalism and that requires equal balance of Faith and Intelligence. A sort of split like the Dung Eater's though a bit more extreme. Especially since that Torch has a Faith requirement when everything else Trina-related uses intelligence.
@clame3065
@clame3065 15 дней назад
ziostorm, my beloved
@itsyaboiguzma
@itsyaboiguzma 14 дней назад
Still waiting for Miyazaki's inevitable foot enemy
@WarriorofMars
@WarriorofMars 15 дней назад
I'm still cooking on the schizo theory that St. Trina is Melina's mother. And Messmer is the father. [Insert Charlie Day conspiracy board]
@SDSypher
@SDSypher 15 дней назад
I refuse to believe any other possibility than Melina also being Miquella
@mrpoto8764
@mrpoto8764 15 дней назад
​@@SDSypherfr. she also only appears when we are "resting" at a site of grace... a la St Trina (though not sure how to explain the summon for Morgott)
@talalogy
@talalogy 14 дней назад
@@SDSypherat this point everyone is Miquella, guess who’s Miquella too ? Me
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
I like that but the way she asks about being born of a mother when speaking about boc makes me quite skeptical of a father & more thinking she came to be as a fragment of sorts, a piece.
@WarriorofMars
@WarriorofMars 14 дней назад
What got me thinking about it was something she says about continuing her quest for herself and not specifically what her mother wants. Like... it KINDA makes sense that it's Marika, but also kinda not? It's way out there, and I have low confidence in it being true, but it's my pet theory and I'm sticking to it haha.
@SalFettucini
@SalFettucini 15 дней назад
Perhaps St Trina is the champion of an outer god of dreams? Manifesting itself as an alter ego of whomever it chooses to be its scion? It’d certainly be a play/callback to Marika and Radagon, and could also play into the dual nature of Miquella’s many dichotomies (male and female, willing to give up its form for the sake of rebirth (but pairing with Miquella’s prescience provides another layer of Miquella’s intent by cocooning itself- if he knew mohg was coming to mess up his plans, thus severing Miquella’s ties to the land of the living, it would set them on a straight shot to the lands of shadow). The possibilities are endless
@kyleharrison713
@kyleharrison713 14 дней назад
I'm pretty sure Miyazaki just confirmed in that China interview that St.Trina and Miquella are different beings.
@Darkheart00
@Darkheart00 14 дней назад
“Confirmed” isn’t the word i’d use. He left enough to interpretation for either answers. He wouldn’t answer one of the biggest lore questions in a niche Chinese interview lol
@thecrankyoldman
@thecrankyoldman 11 дней назад
Marika represents a tree, Melina represents a branch of that tree.
@biovalve1410
@biovalve1410 15 дней назад
Maybe St Trina is an Outer God that possesses Miquella and is inflicting him with the curse of eternal youth?
@tommangum3675
@tommangum3675 15 дней назад
Godhood in Elden Ring seems to require the ability to be a vessel for a God/Outer God. Marika/Radagon bears the Elden Beast/Elden Ring Malenia bears the Rot God. Ranni shed her Empyrean flesh, but that may be because the God of Night needed an independent vessel. Miquella is associated with Youth/Abundance, but if he is confirmed to also be St. Trina, the Goddess of Sleep/Dreams, this may indicate that Miquella has already ascended to the same level of Godhood as Marika/Radagon, and St. Trina. On a somewhat unrelated note, the Palace Approach site of grace: I believe it being the most popular farming location with the despondent Albinaurics is no coincidence. I like to think that those particular Albinaurics have seen the truth of their lord Miquella. Beyond his kidnapping, I believe they have seen and are awakened to Miquella's terrifying nature. "Pure and radiant, he wields love to shrive clean the hearts of men. There is nothing more terrifying." I like to speculate that those Albinaurics, like almost everyone else, has been orchestrated by Miquella to be there... for our express purpose of farming them for runes. "What is my purpose?" "You pass butter." "...oh my god."
@KopruluRuler
@KopruluRuler 15 дней назад
At the end of it all I wouldn't be surprised if it was Miquella who orchestrated our maiden's death all along... after all, we get his steed and are also given his (or Trina's) spirit summoning bell which are absolutely crucial to our journey. It seems Ranni and Melina are also in cahoots with some of his plans concerning the Tarnished. Melina: just wants change, any change bars annihilation (frenzy) Ranni: further her own goals, freedom and iconoclasm Miquella: absolute godhood, harmony under adoration. What bugs me is the fact that imo, game implies all tarnished were exiled from the lands between through boats (weeping peninsula lore) but our late tarnished seemingly teleported/was summoned there to a place called the chapel of anticipation. Someone is playing 4D chess with us.
@Lee-km7qq
@Lee-km7qq 15 дней назад
This would make sense, there could be a outer god of dreams. That would explain why seeing the adult St. Trina would be unsettling, that and the whole one eyed woman part lol
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
​@@KopruluRulerthank you for picking up on this, I've not seen many other people get there. 4D chess is well put, everyone tells me it's just a plot twist for the sake of a plot twist. I won't ruin your hunt and I'm definitely not giving zio his next video 😂
@RSAVee
@RSAVee 15 дней назад
Will your first dlc through be streamed or solo and then take things from there?
@matthewholt9501
@matthewholt9501 13 дней назад
We are so close
@mmyr8ado.360
@mmyr8ado.360 14 дней назад
It would be funny if the one in the cocoon in Mohgwyn Palace isn't Miquella at all, but rather the guy who made the cookbooks mentioned, and the painting in the intro was a red herring of sorts to lead us to think that the hand was Miquella's, but in reality he compelled Mogh to bring some of his followers along with him, and he used the scholar instead as a gateway to the Land of Shadow.
@albodoin
@albodoin 15 дней назад
If Miquella is forever a child then it's not him in the cocoon but instead it's Mesmer the Impaler.
@Someone-fv3iv
@Someone-fv3iv 15 дней назад
No, not necessarily. Miquella was growing inside of the cocoon so that he would eventually break his curse. The body in there has been sustained by the blood Mohg has put into it, causing it to naturally grow. The body is just the grown and withered body of Miquella. :)
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
​@@Someone-fv3iv so wanting to GROW, the CHILD size miquella spun his own cocoon, later exiting an INFANT? Whats up with the giant grown woman in the Haligtree roots, just decoration?
@albodoin
@albodoin 6 дней назад
@@Gord-writesGhost Yeah that does not make any sense...if you look at the ring on the hand it's made out of snakes, so I still think it's not Mikella in that cocoon.
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 6 дней назад
@@albodoin that's likely because you don't speak English naively, because I was disagreeing with the belief that Miquella was in the cocoon
@SeanBistline-fv6zi
@SeanBistline-fv6zi 15 дней назад
St Trina is the adult other half of Miquela who came into being when Miquela planted the haligtree and went to sleep, St Trina exists in the land of shadow and can interact with the land between through peoples dream. I think much like Merika and Radagon are the same being that when Merika became Elden Lord and created the land of shadow the Erdtree split her being as part of the contract and the Haligtree offers the same sacrifice as the Erdtree therefor splitting Miquela’s being as well, this allows both Miquela and Merika access to both the land of shadow and the land between simultaneously granting them lordship of both realms
@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709
@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709 14 дней назад
St trina has a waterfowl dance kinda move but it puts u to sleep
@jakubchalupa8510
@jakubchalupa8510 9 дней назад
Remember to pick up all focus increasing talismans and items
@ridleydaemonia1134
@ridleydaemonia1134 15 дней назад
Fun fact, rune bears are susceptible to sleep. Like, two sleep pots with almost base arcane stat as an example.
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
One of the first ones you meet is asleep beside a Trina lily in mistwood ruins , where we meet blaidd
@bobbydavis4144
@bobbydavis4144 14 дней назад
St. Trina boss fight is going to be such a pain in the ass. Dodge/roll too soon, sleep. Dodge/roll too late, sleep. Do nothing, super sleep. Can't wait!
@uncleol
@uncleol 15 дней назад
I hope the DLC gives us a good way to farm Trinas Lilies.
@Someone-fv3iv
@Someone-fv3iv 15 дней назад
Assuming that there is an entire sleep swamp in the DLC, I am sure that you will be able to farm MANY Trina’s lilies :)
@AvorexX
@AvorexX 15 дней назад
St Trina is a alter ego of miquella
@redx3009
@redx3009 14 дней назад
I have a theory primarily drawn from color scheme between Gold and Purple. These are the colors represented by Miquella/St. Trina, where else do we se those colors represented? The eyes of Melina. Anyways I am not claiming that Melina is Miquella, just that there are glaring clues within the game that point out towards The Source of everything.
@M.A.R.S.
@M.A.R.S. 15 дней назад
Won't catch Chasethebro anywhere near this video 💀
@williamsaling9648
@williamsaling9648 15 дней назад
Miquella learned how to captivate ppl from St. Trina. Induce a sleeplike state and plant an idea, like the movie Inception.
@Romapolitan
@Romapolitan 15 дней назад
I think the "depicts st trina as an adult" comes from the fact that many people in game seem to mistake Miquella for st Trina, as you said. Every depiction of Trina, in game, so far seems to be an adult.
@snefansson
@snefansson 14 дней назад
So… I wonder if the part in Caelid that’s on fire/burnt has something to do with Messemer.. Did messmer and miquella meet there perhaps?
@treymarkus1987
@treymarkus1987 13 дней назад
Am I trippin or could the statue in the mimic tear arena be st trina? (4:11) robed figure idk
@esther9433
@esther9433 14 дней назад
When I was a newby, I thought Miquella was following Trina's teachings. That's why he chose to protect the species rejected by the Haligtree. I thought that Trina was ancient, older than maybe even the Erdtree. It seems like the people of Uhl palace were Trina's believers and since they live underground, I thought they were around before Miquella. I could be wrong. What if we are all wrong and she's the gloam eyed queen loool
@TJuice1986
@TJuice1986 15 дней назад
43 Days to go!!!
@mhansenyaboi
@mhansenyaboi 13 дней назад
What if melina, messmar, and rani are all st. trinas split personalities? They all have the one eye closed. The St. Trina picture with the eye in the middle is interesting. They all have a mark from their closed eye except Messmar although I think there maybe a mark that goes up and to the right instead of down. Then we’d be missing one last mark
@simonealcazar816
@simonealcazar816 15 дней назад
The Albinauric archers do not shoot St.Trina arrows. I don’t know how you’ve come to this conclusion. 7:34
@Solibrae
@Solibrae 15 дней назад
He did make a mistake there but while they don't shoot these arrows, they do have a chance to drop them, so there's still a strong connection between the two.
@aric8027
@aric8027 15 дней назад
Is that a mimics veil at the bottom of the St. Trina's sword handle?
@Linealo
@Linealo 15 дней назад
Trina is an adult, Miquella is an eternal child. Trina is the "dreaming", Miquella is part of being "awake". Trina can visit you in your dream, but also make you dream. My theory therefore could be that St.Trina and Miquella are a similar split entity like Soul and Body for Ranny and Godwyn. St.Trina is the adult body that Miquella "created" or even "is", but Miquella is the spirit. The sudden disappearance might be due to Mogh: Because I have the idea that the hand in the egg might be St.Trina - the "body of Miquella". We know that the hand will take us to the DLC and that Miquella, their spirit, dwells inside that world. So if St.Trina is the body in the egg that makes us join the "dream world" and Miquella is inside that dream, then it would explain: - Why he vanished so quickly - Why he can come and go as fast as he does (since he also comes in / through dreams) - Why Miquella can be in the DLC but also present in he actual world Also: "Dreams" can be also thought of as "wishes" (I dream of becoming an astronaut). And wishes like these are ambition. So is Miquella the "flame of ambition"? Can Miquella thus come to those, as a guiding Grace, to those with ambition / a dream? Is this why Grace guides us, why after 3 graces we get Torrent, who's former master was Miquella? And if Miquella is the "flame" of ambition, would this be a further connection that he could be Melina? And chose to be Melina because his other body, St. Trina, is occupied and would be identified anyway?
@Darkheart00
@Darkheart00 15 дней назад
lol I really love this comment
@Gord-writesGhost
@Gord-writesGhost 14 дней назад
The prefix of ambition is supportive to the idea. Ambi, Latin for of both, sides, ways.
@markop.1994
@markop.1994 13 дней назад
Sooo on a total sidenote i bet that pink magic from the dlc trailer are poison spells. Its the same color as the poisonbloom flowers.
@x9Raven6x
@x9Raven6x 12 дней назад
5:55 never realized that Miquellas-Lili is tangeld by another plant !!! So, wich of those two plants is now the "Miquellas-Lili" ?! Maybe the parasite? And what does it mean for the Haligtree if that's the case..
@sam2399
@sam2399 14 дней назад
I'd like to fight strong enemies in dream spaces, kinda like everjails.
@kwynwithak2775
@kwynwithak2775 15 дней назад
8:09 who is this a statue of? Is that all the forms of Miquela
@joshuawilson9005
@joshuawilson9005 11 дней назад
I just came to realization that the cocoon is probably at Trina not miqualla because we know miqualla did not break his curse the size of the body in the cocoon is bigger than all the demigods even radahn and another discovery I found is the cocoon does not match the hole in the haligtree it's too big which leads me to believe miqualla left the haligtree and when to the shadow realm with the help of mohg and that body in the cocoon could be st trina or some other being we don't know about ive even suggested it's messmer buttt that doesnt clear out because the land of shadow is not a dream place it's a place that exist just like the lands between so who ever it is in that cocoon had access to the land of shadow but I'm sure it's not miqualla I'm almost certain it's st trina
@rtzen9293
@rtzen9293 14 дней назад
Think they will touch on anything about being a maidenless tarnished? Vari was the only one to mock us many maideless ones with that diss.
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