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Who Was Baal? 

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In the Hebrew Bible, Baal is portrayed as the great rival of Yahweh. In the Book of Kings, the prophet Elijah famously challenges the prophets of Baal to a sacrificial offerings contest that ultimately leads to their doom. John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place will put these Biblical narratives in the context of what is known about Canaanite and Ancient Semitic religion, and the gods worshiped with the honorific title “Ba’al” (which means “Lord”).
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Topics covered in this lecture include:
- Polytheism in Ancient Israel
- Henotheism and monolatry
- Ugarit and the Canaanite pantheon
- The holy family: El, Asherah, Baal, Anat, Astarte
- The Baal Cycle
- The bronze age collapse
- Iron Age Israel
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@centre-place
@centre-place 9 месяцев назад
Here are the sources for this lecture and recommended readings: Michael D. Coogan, Mark S. Smith; Stories from Ancient Canaan; WJK James S. Anderson; Monotheism and Yahweh’s Appropriation of Baal; T&T Clark Mark S. Smith; The Origins of Biblical Monotheism; Oxford Mark S. Smith; The Early History of God, Harper & Row Yonatan Adler; The Origins of Judaism; Yale John J. Collins; The Invention of Judaism; University of California Press
@exoplanet11
@exoplanet11 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@balazskiss985
@balazskiss985 9 месяцев назад
i am
@mockermuris
@mockermuris 9 месяцев назад
matthew is not mattyhwh, but of Maat= maat-é
@silentwitness536
@silentwitness536 9 месяцев назад
The jewish faith, used to be a sub cult of ba'al worship. It evolved out of it.
@arnoldbioursckii6639
@arnoldbioursckii6639 9 месяцев назад
Greek fire
@senefelder
@senefelder 9 месяцев назад
Everyone asks who is Baal, but no one asks how is Baal 😢
@angelbaaldepeor3688
@angelbaaldepeor3688 9 месяцев назад
He is doing very well plenty of human sacrifice right now to please him by his chosen ones.
@centre-place
@centre-place 9 месяцев назад
😅
@MissMentats
@MissMentats 9 месяцев назад
I wish you could like comments more than once, one is insufficient, ppl need to understand the sheer volume of like happening rn
@lm7338
@lm7338 9 месяцев назад
@@angelbaaldepeor3688 Big mongoloid take.
@studlord9970
@studlord9970 9 месяцев назад
I'll do you one better. WHY is Baal?
@bowhunter3703
@bowhunter3703 5 месяцев назад
I am of Lebanese blood, my family emigrated from the city of Sidon 50 years ago. It is a fascinating place with two crusaders castles, a monastery from that era, a mosque that was built by the crusaders as a church and later converted, a Phoenician temple, among other things. The name Baal (pronounced Ba'al) is still invoked today to refer to land where the crops are naturally grown (what you call organic), and the land is never watered. Such crops like olives for example are considered the best since watering is considered to dilute the oil. I used to hear farmers referring to such crops as "ala Ba'al" which literally means grown by Baal. The term is still used till today.
@jayvee5686
@jayvee5686 Месяц назад
I love when I click on Centre Place videos and it's John speaking. Immediately feel relief
@fastballflakes5385
@fastballflakes5385 9 месяцев назад
Another fine Hamercopia of Knowledge tonight. I hope to see you all this Sunday 11/5/2023 for the next awesome lecture.
@ChristyCallahan
@ChristyCallahan 9 месяцев назад
What is a hamercopia?
@elizabethferguson7002
@elizabethferguson7002 8 месяцев назад
@@ChristyCallahan I think they meant Cornucopia? (symbol of Abundance & Nourishment) I don't know what hamercopia is unless it is not an English word.
@fastballflakes5385
@fastballflakes5385 7 месяцев назад
@ChristyCallahan John Hamer is the pastor at Centre Place who presents these lectures. It's a portmanteau of "Hamer" and "Cornucopia"
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 9 месяцев назад
I want to commend how you make biblical history come to life, this was a fascinating lecture. It is a shame these videos do not have a wider audience. You do not have to be religious to enjoy hearing these stories and histories.
@flylerdurden1999
@flylerdurden1999 9 месяцев назад
Religion is a sham . It blinds people from the truth
@angelbaaldepeor3688
@angelbaaldepeor3688 9 месяцев назад
biblical history ja ja ja that's a good one thank you.
@nonprogrediestregredi1711
@nonprogrediestregredi1711 8 месяцев назад
I'm an atheist, and I enjoy these lectures. This is fascinating history.
@JH-bf6qy
@JH-bf6qy 8 месяцев назад
His story whose story? Your story, a fairytale, made up, by your own imagination, the G-d of the pantheon is.... YOURSELF!
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 8 месяцев назад
@@JH-bf6qy God. Say God, the concept of the tetragrammaton is false piety. You have no problems breaking His other laws and commandments, but don't you dare eat pork, turn on a light on sabbath or say His name.
@jennodine
@jennodine 5 месяцев назад
This is some next-level truth-telling. Excellent insight for serious researchers.
@wanghui562
@wanghui562 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much. This is a very timely lecture to understand what is happening in the Middle East right now... One really cannot understand the present without understanding the past.
@devinbraun1852
@devinbraun1852 8 месяцев назад
Excellent! One of the most worthwhile destinations on YT. Thank you so much!
@NickZoran
@NickZoran 6 месяцев назад
Love this channel. Love the format. Thank you!
@centre-place
@centre-place 5 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@ShapochkinKirill
@ShapochkinKirill 9 месяцев назад
This guy is good, very good! I watched him on Mythvision and liked a lot. I'm a music teacher myself and respect good teachers. Community he's in (a version of Latter day's saints?) are privileged to have him. Word. Me out!
@seandalton6673
@seandalton6673 9 месяцев назад
John's been on Mythvision? I've overlooked that one. I'll need to track it down.
@ShapochkinKirill
@ShapochkinKirill 9 месяцев назад
@@seandalton6673 yes and it's in my opinion one of the best and very honest podcast.
@MissMentats
@MissMentats 9 месяцев назад
This is the only channel I can watch on 1.75x speed lol I like that 👏
@riley02192012
@riley02192012 9 месяцев назад
I absolutely love these weekly lectures! They are so well done!
@honeyholly001
@honeyholly001 8 месяцев назад
This is great. Will definitely watch it again.
@paulozeruga8454
@paulozeruga8454 8 месяцев назад
Big thanks for the hard and sometimes unappreciated work
@felicededuyo7999
@felicededuyo7999 9 месяцев назад
Pantheon Reduction (Abbreviated Elohim) made simple. You made it easy Sir John Hamer. Thank you.
@clinchleatherwood1012
@clinchleatherwood1012 8 месяцев назад
Very good info here! Glad I found your channel.
@akiraasmr3002
@akiraasmr3002 9 месяцев назад
After me finding out about all of this I was happy since my name is Michael named after the arch angel and after losing my faith which I kind of never really had I always had doubts and thought I was bad for not really believing in the religion of my parents now I can see my name comes from the canaanite god El.
@user-ue5yw6zb9k
@user-ue5yw6zb9k 8 месяцев назад
This is one of the best lecturers I've ever witnessed on this subject. You've masterfully explained the historical context, etymological importance & religious syncretism of each epithet used during specific periods of time. 😌🤌
@douglaslegvold9215
@douglaslegvold9215 6 месяцев назад
Wow, lots of big fancy words you made me look. Up. I am now smarter.
@user-ue5yw6zb9k
@user-ue5yw6zb9k 6 месяцев назад
@@douglaslegvold9215 I'm a numbskull. You're lucky I could remember the words I had used in my previous comment.
@stevebeeney9022
@stevebeeney9022 Месяц назад
"Who Was Yahweh?" next.
@peterhook2258
@peterhook2258 9 месяцев назад
Listen John (Professor). You are doing the work of the Lord my friend. Thank you so much.
@MisfitoX
@MisfitoX 9 месяцев назад
What lord? I think you religious people don't see reality, but a whole lot of non existing things from your imagination. It's scary...
@MrBlazingup420
@MrBlazingup420 9 месяцев назад
You can replace that word Lord, with that hated word Baal, because that's what it means.
@nonprogrediestregredi1711
@nonprogrediestregredi1711 8 месяцев назад
​@@MrBlazingup420I was going to mention that. Perhaps they worship Baal.
@Allyourheroswenttohell
@Allyourheroswenttohell 8 месяцев назад
​@@nonprogrediestregredi1711all God's are one.
@machiavelllli
@machiavelllli 8 месяцев назад
@@MisfitoXyou believe in nothing. Please tell me how to prove nothing. Then please explain to me why you feel the need to come and destroy other peoples faith to live in the confusion and misery of believing in nothing. Get those demons off you 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@AudioLemon
@AudioLemon 9 месяцев назад
This was very interesting. Thank you.
@endlesskev
@endlesskev 9 месяцев назад
Another great lecture, sorry I missed it again!
@barryzeeberg3672
@barryzeeberg3672 9 месяцев назад
Baal had many followers - this was known as the "Baal movement."
@sophiaschoice6370
@sophiaschoice6370 9 месяцев назад
😂😂
@LiGhTbOrN77
@LiGhTbOrN77 6 месяцев назад
💩
@deloreswillis9224
@deloreswillis9224 7 месяцев назад
I love reading about biblical stories ❤ very interesting
@bldbar118
@bldbar118 8 месяцев назад
This is great! Thanks. 😊
@eddiesee1783
@eddiesee1783 8 месяцев назад
This is a very scholarly approach to the reading and interpretation of the Bible.
@merthsoft
@merthsoft 5 месяцев назад
I really love all the timelines and charts you have in your slides. Do you happen to have a repository of them online?
@EvanGrambas
@EvanGrambas 9 месяцев назад
Great topic. Have wanted to know more about this for a long time.
@lauratempestini5719
@lauratempestini5719 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for your study and this comprehensive information! 👏🏻 Can we get your notes?
@elnegrohotep
@elnegrohotep 9 месяцев назад
I can't wait till you guys give a presentation on King Solomon
@MichaelMcgarrity-ys8wf
@MichaelMcgarrity-ys8wf 8 месяцев назад
This reminds me of Shelley Eagle and Snake Poem. Snake wrapping around a pole is called a "caduceus" a Magic Staff of Hermes. Awesome presentation! I have to read Shelley tomorrow.
@kaisailor1
@kaisailor1 6 месяцев назад
I have recently surmized that Baal is also the Sumerian God Marduk as well as the Egyptian God Ra/Rah. Does anyone else find this to be plausible?
@MrDalisclock
@MrDalisclock 2 месяца назад
In the Enuma Elish Marduk basically yanks Baal(called Hadad in the story)s title and function. Along with a lot of other gods. But Baal and Marduk were both storm gods who became big shots in their own pantheons. Ra being a sun god doesn't really fit though.
@resto95
@resto95 2 месяца назад
Baal isn't Marduk he's hadad. The god of abrahamic religions is enlil. Enki is portrayed as Satan And Lilith is inanna. Baal is worshipped throughout history along with these gods. He's the bull So he's been Zeus in Greece mars in Rome set in Egypt baal in Canaanite phoecian. Inanna is the owl So she's been Minerva Friegar Lilith Enki is the snake Hence the snake always being a God of wisdom or knowledge. Satan gave Adam and Eve the apple which gave them knowledge and wisdom?. Sound familiar lol. Good on you for getting close to the truth tho
@KevinSterns
@KevinSterns 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic audience questions.
@WhoeverNevermind
@WhoeverNevermind 9 месяцев назад
Thank you, very interesting.
@paulfaigl8329
@paulfaigl8329 6 месяцев назад
Fascinating. Thank you.🙏❤️🙏
@centre-place
@centre-place 5 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@larrybarger1077
@larrybarger1077 9 месяцев назад
Excellent and satisfying
@manucaption
@manucaption 9 месяцев назад
I love the little asides he does while narrating the Bible stories. He describes Elijah as "a pretty badass prophet" for having the altar prepped by dousing water on it three times before he calls down fire from Yahweh. Great lecture 😂
@colinthomson5358
@colinthomson5358 6 месяцев назад
He was really dousing the altar with petrol/gas. That's why it went up in flames so quickly!
@liepa7768
@liepa7768 5 месяцев назад
​@@colinthomson5358that would smell too much. But it had to be something in it, yes
@paulschuckman6604
@paulschuckman6604 9 месяцев назад
Tectauus is an interesting figure remembered as Baal and Shiva. I think he is recorded on the Sumerian King's list as Kullasina-bel. It would be a fitting title for the son of Perses/Tarshish/Jushur.
@ashishmoudgil972
@ashishmoudgil972 8 месяцев назад
are you stupid or what. Shiva is the supreme deity. Read history first Deaus (Zeus) father of Indra, Indra his other name Marduk or Thor who is father of Baal. Don't make unhealthy comparisons, read Zoroastrian Jewish history first.
@manjulashanmugasundaram706
@manjulashanmugasundaram706 8 месяцев назад
Shiva? Well he's Indian. Hindu God
@paulschuckman6604
@paulschuckman6604 8 месяцев назад
@@manjulashanmugasundaram706 yep the Indus river valley is known to have traded with the ancient Sumerians and the Mittani who ruled for a time in Sumeria is thought to have roots or some religious and language connection to India. Tectauus is also called The Bull or the Horned Heracles who is considered possibly Gilgamesh. Tectauus is the son of Perses who was supposedly born in Nubia to Perseus. And Perses is supposed to be the first Pharaoh according to myth. Perses is also credited with building the small pyramids in Nubia. From my understanding his son Tectauus traveled the world from India to Europe teaching his father's religion of return to nature and that his father would return after dying, the dying and living again King concept. The constellation Taurus is named after Tectauus.
@MortenChristensen1979.
@MortenChristensen1979. 6 месяцев назад
​@@manjulashanmugasundaram706It has long been suggested that the Sumerians, who ruled in Lower Mesopotamia from circa 4500 to 1900 BCE and who spoke a non-Indo-European and non-Semitic language, may have initially come from India.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 8 месяцев назад
Did the god name Mot evolve to the later word "mort" for death, or did Mot get named from ruling over the phenomenon of death/mort ?
@stutzbearcat5624
@stutzbearcat5624 8 месяцев назад
This dude is the best!! Thanks!!!!
@_pawter
@_pawter 8 месяцев назад
This was excellent mate. I've read the Good Book twice from cover to cover (20 years apart) and what you say elucidates so much of what I remember from the oldest books. Thanks so much! ps. are you perhaps not mispronouncing the name Baal? I did a quick check using Google translate: the limit of my scholarship.
@amelliamendel2227
@amelliamendel2227 8 месяцев назад
I encourage you to read the non-canonical books as well, they have many details of note.
@_pawter
@_pawter 8 месяцев назад
@@amelliamendel2227 I have skim-read some over the years, but the only topic which I made a study of was the dead sea scrolls. They (and the work of interpretation) impressed me tremendously. What books do you recommend? Be warned though: it is not my field. As luck would have it I bumped into a Coptic monk in large, chain, stationery store a week ago and we discussed this same topic with regard to ancient manuscripts found scattered amongst their heirlooms, laying around here and there.
@MrVuittonDon
@MrVuittonDon 8 месяцев назад
​@@_pawterinteresting, wonde rebate else you have learned/rediscovered. Really there are too many people out there living a life completely ignorant to the past. Maybe you can check out my comment and chime in anything you heard of. Posted 2 questions.
@ussromantics
@ussromantics 8 месяцев назад
Of course you don't have to be a biblical scholar to know that 'Bail' for Baal is an Americanism. Just as they torture Iraqis with the word 'Eyerach', and call Hitler 'Aydolph', to rhyme with 'hay'. Americans, I wanna be one - not!
@doreenb.8928
@doreenb.8928 7 месяцев назад
@@ussromantics. I would venture to say that we (Americans) don’t care if you want to be one of US or not…
@eldraque4556
@eldraque4556 9 месяцев назад
these talks are always intresting
@aj-mv3un
@aj-mv3un 7 месяцев назад
From Abhijit vartak , pune , India - is he the same personality, after whom ' balbek ' is named ? If it is so , his existence , influence will go back to period of gobekley tepe .
@somedandy7694
@somedandy7694 7 месяцев назад
Do you have a lecture about blood sacrifice in general? My biggest hangup with Christianity was that it relies completely on blood sacrifice (something innocent must die to purify guilt) rather than a propitiatory system (undo the wrong you committed) which makes me wonder why God preferred such a practice/system?
@exoplanet11
@exoplanet11 9 месяцев назад
Fascinating stuff around 40:00 about Hezekiah, and his successors switching back and forth between Ba'al and Yahweh worship, with the Yahweh worshipers getting punished and the Ba'll worshipers doing fine. By the way, Hezekiah seems a lot like Akhenaten to me, now that I think of it. I religious reformer who took the country in a more monotheistic direction, only to have his reforms undone by his successor.
@user-ue5yw6zb9k
@user-ue5yw6zb9k 8 месяцев назад
I instantly came to the same conclusion.
@herukhuti8326
@herukhuti8326 8 месяцев назад
The seal of King Hezekiah, the dung beetle ( Khepera) and the winged Sun Disc ( Heru Behutet ) tells you is the Aten. This connects to the bloodline of the tribe of Judah which is Horite. Akhenaten was a Horite, which is a bloodline and priesthood. Horites are followers of Heru and The Horites of Edom/Seir the Horite are the Horus Kings of Egypt. Manahath the Horite is Menes first dynasty of Egypt. Falcon Clan This is the secret bloodline of Jesus. Salmon the Horite father of Bethlehem Boaz ( pillar of masonry) Obed Jesse David Solomon Jesus the Horite and the order of Melchizedek, the Jebusite=Horite Judah was born in Haran and Haran was a Horite empire.. The Horites are from Mt Ararat. The people of Ar/Ra children of the Sun Cannanites are Horites. Yahweh is a Horite God.. The Shasu of Yahweh from Edom
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 8 месяцев назад
Aten is definitely in the mix.
@herukhuti8326
@herukhuti8326 8 месяцев назад
@@jimgraham6722 Read the Dream Stele, the Sphinx or Heru Em Akhet is the Aten. Akhenaten connection to the Bible is the bloodline and priesthood, the Horites. Everything is revealed when you unravel the Horite bloodline
@nicomoreno5028
@nicomoreno5028 8 месяцев назад
​@@herukhuti8326Where can I get more info like this? The internet is full of misleads and other nonsense.
@eldraque4556
@eldraque4556 9 месяцев назад
the name of the rose is sooo good
@danielecolla5767
@danielecolla5767 6 месяцев назад
great lecture well documented very scholarly.
@alNange
@alNange 8 месяцев назад
You are my Lord Jesus! Please pray for all innocent dying
@earthelder2065
@earthelder2065 5 месяцев назад
Great info! I would make a comment on the caduceus. It was originally a symbol of the Kundalini energy that are the 2 energy symbols of the body. It is also the seven seals mentioned in the book of Revelations. Thank you!
@ludviglidstrom6924
@ludviglidstrom6924 5 месяцев назад
Great lecture
@centre-place
@centre-place 5 месяцев назад
Many thanks!
@danmosley4387
@danmosley4387 8 месяцев назад
Baal is the pipe of the mountain of god (volcano). In Hebrew he is called lord, the mountain is called the father and the physical representation of god as a gigantic rock outcrop that sits above the volcano's pipe (baal) on the crater holds the name god.
@KingKatura
@KingKatura 9 месяцев назад
In truth baal was a generic term for lord, & there was many lords just as there is today. I assume since your talking about thee one baal that its referring to baal zehabab or the lord of the fly.Who was sometimes just called lord by some?
@h.sapiens3404
@h.sapiens3404 8 месяцев назад
Amazing 😮
@saliksayyar9793
@saliksayyar9793 6 месяцев назад
Rather than movement from polytheism to henotheism to monotheism, it could be in reverse with repeated reversion to polytheism. EL being the original monotheist God.
@SenegalStyleSinetaGeorge
@SenegalStyleSinetaGeorge 7 месяцев назад
Very informative. Hebrew Israelites need to hear this (speaking as a Muslimah!)
@fadyalqaisy
@fadyalqaisy 6 месяцев назад
Baal is an Arab ddeity, the son of ALLH in the old Arab mythology. Palestine itself was named after him, Pali-Stan
@MrVuittonDon
@MrVuittonDon 8 месяцев назад
I have a few Questions, if anyone can share some light on... - Wasn't the first depictions of the Caduceus shown throughout ancient Summeria? Which is dated as the oldest recorded civilization being 6,000-15,000 years old. I am not sure how old were those depicted carvings dated specifically though. Was it influence by the story of moses? People still debate on WHEN Moses actually lived or was it prophetic references for a future event? Also, Ancient Summeria is older than Ancient Egypt, in which we can see Toth holding what looks like a Caduceus staff with 2 snakes. In addition, within Satanism, the Baphomet also has the Caduceus near his stomach. I find it funny that the medical industry loves to use the Caduceus, the rod of Aescelapian, symbolizing commerce! Ha, the big pharma mafia's play on symbols were a human error? In my humble opinion, I don't think we'll educated individuals / organizations accidentally choosen it. This seems like a stretch and more so a deliberate action. Maybe...it was the sinister acts of Baal? Even the image of this entity is drawn with horns, which has striking resemblance to jinn / shayateen / demons (having the ability of choice like humans, and are known to cause mischief throughout history.) Not to go too much on q tagent, but lets not forget the line is very very fine when refering to science & magic. - Could Hadad and Zeus be the same entity? Such striking resemblance with the lighting/thunder notations. - When would you say the early works of the Torah are spread during Jeremiah's days of 640-570 BCE? I have heard that the Torah was "lost" for quite some time, would this be the historical references? Could you conclude a time frame of wheb the Torah was lost by archeological data? If not then when can you conclude through religious primary, secondary, and third sources of it being lost?
@eastnewyorkpostalservice1849
@eastnewyorkpostalservice1849 8 месяцев назад
Hmmmm, Interesting...
@anthonyurso3554
@anthonyurso3554 5 месяцев назад
A lot of questions Sumerian was like 4000BC so older Adad is Ninurta brother Enlil sons Ninurta is highest ranking I see him as Michael Son of the “Dbl seed” and royal blood They took half sisters as wives Abraham and Sarah were also half siblings Enki and Enlil are like Zeus and Poseidon and they had descendants with half sibling as well With Ninmah But what I know and how interpret Is all of these gods are angels with different ranking Enki clan was Egypt and Enlil was more eastern/Mesopotamia Baal is most likely referring to Lucifer who was known as Marduk/Amun Ra and most likely Ahura Mazda by Persians Lucifer is Aries the Ram the son of Zeus Who i believe is Enki And Yahweh is most likely Enlil son Ninurta or Enlil Enlil might have been El with Enlil being represented as bull His Zodiac and time of rule came first age of Taurus And then age of Ram which was Lucifer and then Pisces which was Jesus era till about now and now we just recently entered Aquarius Moses led the Hebrew out of Egypt which was Marduk/Lucifer/Baal/Ra territory maybe 3500 years ago 1000-1500bc And it seems with first temple Judaism was 2 factions both with hierarchy of gods With 1 having Baal at top and the other with Yahweh With Baal trying to manipulate the more eastern Mesopotamia world trying to gain control over earth Where I believe the Persians were influenced by Lucifer And I believe Islam was also With the intent of steering away from Jesus The Jews don’t recognize the savior The Catholics pretend to while still following Greek/Roman pantheon and the Muslims are steered away from Jesus I believe all fabricated by Lucifer or a descendant Which the Persian descendants seem to be Cyrus, Darius Xerxes But Abraham seems to be descendant of Enki/Zeus Who is father of Lucifer The Enlil clan with Ninurta have more power But the bloodlines are through Zeus and Lucifer Lucifer also took women as wives just like fallen angels Fallen angels are not of royal blood though with Lucifer being royalty Set and Osiris are Lucifer’s offspring
@ladislavjonas977
@ladislavjonas977 9 месяцев назад
Elohim is plural, meaning Gods. A very important difference.
@ItsANiceDaySometimes
@ItsANiceDaySometimes 8 месяцев назад
Baal is my local uber delivery guy. Nice dude.
@mshopey32
@mshopey32 Месяц назад
What does it mean to absorb another god? How does that happen if gods can't die?
@svena.halstensen5699
@svena.halstensen5699 9 месяцев назад
some interesting similarities between Baal Hadad, Indra and Thor. all rides in the sky and are associated rain/thunder/lightning/storm, all use a hammer/cudgel/club/mace, all fight a sea/water creature that is in the shape of a serpent/dragon.
@MrDalisclock
@MrDalisclock 2 месяца назад
Marduk as well.
@user-xy1vk3tf5k
@user-xy1vk3tf5k 6 месяцев назад
Thank you ❤
@wademach77
@wademach77 9 месяцев назад
@wademach77 3 minutes ago Baal to me was always Bull as El. In mythology some saw Baal as a son of El but others saw Baal as a son of Dagan. I enjoy seeing the similarities between Yahweh and Baal.
@MrBlazingup420
@MrBlazingup420 9 месяцев назад
Ba'al is the Dog-Headed Goddess Bau-Gula, she is the mother of the dying and rising god of healing known as Damu, a name that means blood, brother or relative. Damu was known as the Swine star, the head of Draco, where it got its name from Dagon, the grain god, the head of Draco is shaped like a seed cup, it was part of the world plow, invented by Dagon. Draco was seen as Taweret, goddess of childbirth, Ba'al-Seth was the Big Dipper known as the Thigh of the Ox Leg, Ursa Minor was the Standing Wolf, Polaris The Dog's Tail, The Goddess Bau-Gula was seen as the star Vega, our Pole Star 12,000 years ago, as the Dog's Tail is our pole star today. The Sumerian word Ur means Dog, Taweret's hand rests on the sa sign, 𓎃, a hieroglyph that means 'protection' or 'lifesaver'. The goddess Taweret, portrayed as a bipedal hippopotamus with limbs like those of a feline. The Hippo was called Water Pigs, the same thing as a swine, the word Urgula means both Lion and Great Dog, Urgula is the name of Leo. The right leg of Orion would be the Thigh cut off by Horus, the bright star at the tip of Orion's sword, Hatysa is placed on the thigh of Orion, it means Slaughter, as Gohatya means Cow Killer, but read backwards it means "Savior of Sinners", haat means 'to sin', yasa means 'savior'. If you place Hatysa on the western horizon, seen as Death, it places Alula at mid-heaven, Alula means First Born, it is the right leg of Ursa Major, where you find the 7 main stars, we call the Big Dipper, the Alula is the thumb on a wing, the thumb is a symbol of Judgement, wings are symbols of Messengers, it take 7 hours for Alula to fall from mid-heaven to the horizon, when Alula is replaced by the Dog-headed Goddess Bau-Gula, which is the star alignment seen Christmas day at 12:00 noon, when the sun is in Sagittarius, known as Pabilsag, the father of Damu, in Sumerian, his name means Chief Ancestor, in Astrology, Sagittarius is the hips and Thighs, my short version. The words "They All Rule" played in reverse will echo "Orion" the words "Say There Is A Guest" will echo Sagittarius. In Irish, echo is the word macalla, in Hebrew its Batkol, "Voice of God", bat means daughter, kol means voice, as mac means son, alla means Shout, but Alla is the ancient god associated with Damu, in Hebrew, Makala means "Who is like God". I've just showed you the birthday alignment of Lewallyn Roger Cupps-McCullough. Lewallyn means "Like a Lion/Ruling" Roger means Famous Spear, but also penis, (Sword of Orion) Cupps, Cupla means Twin, Alula is one of 3 sets on twin stars that create the paws of Ursa Major. McCullough means Son of the Hound of Ulster and Son of the Boar. September 4th to 8th 2040, when all the Visible planets align with Spica the hand star of Virgo, looking like a Spear/Sword in her hand "Her Mithras, Boy/Girl" played in reverse will echo "Virgo, September" Virgo is Latin for virgin, a word that hides Man/Woman, 'vir' is Latin for Man, 'gyne' (gin) is Greek for Woman, and Mithras is the Gohatya "Cow Killer".
@user-ue5yw6zb9k
@user-ue5yw6zb9k 8 месяцев назад
Well you're going to get a kick out of this. Cross check these lists. These are different names or epithets of particular deities worshipped by different groups. Yahweh is the planet Saturn. Also known as El. Saturn _(Roman)_ is Remphan/Kronos/Chronos _(Greek),_ Utu/Chemosh/Shemash _(Akkadian),_ Anu/Anshar _(Sumerian),_ Geb/Seb _(Kemet),_ Ildabaoth/Yaldaboath _(Gnosticism),_ Nimrod _(Babylon),_ Molech/Moloch/Ba'al/Moab/Sikkuth/Chiun/Kiyyun/Solomon/David/El _(Canaanite & Pheonician formerly Pharasaism/Judaism properly known as "Judaist")._ Saturn symbols are ⚛🔯✡☪️. Golden calf, Bull, Bull horns, Peacock, Hamsa & Stag horns. Also the Black cube, Santa Claus, Fern tree, Lord of the Rings & Grim Reaper. You can also look up corporate Saturn logos. Enlil is Ba'al/Bel/Marduk _(Canaanite)_ & Ba'al Zevuv/Beelzebub _(Philistine)._ His other epithets are Asshur _(Sumerian),_ Amun-Ra _(Egyptian/Khemet),_ Zeus _(Greek),_ Jupiter/St. Peter _(Roman),_ Indra _(Sanskrit),_ Vishnu _(Hindi),_ Tlaloc _(Mayan),_ Catequil/Pilan _(Incan),_ Thor/Donar _(Nordic),_ Dazhbog _(Slavonic),_ Ilma _(Finno-Ugric),_ Dagda _(Celtic)._
@jonahtisamphd.6101
@jonahtisamphd.6101 5 месяцев назад
Where does Al Lah and Islam fit into the pagan practice.
@davidegros
@davidegros 9 месяцев назад
I always thinked there is a connection between El, Bel and Baal. Gods evolves, splits, modifies names, attributes and functions..
@barryrichins
@barryrichins 9 месяцев назад
Thanks John, I do appreciate your slowing down and taking time to clarify concepts. I have read the the Ugaritic poem about Baal, but your explanation was even more helpful to my understanding. On my right hand, I wear a rainbow ring for my students and friend who have come out to me. You are a good roll model, my friend. Thank you for not hiding your being and talents!
@eternityisreal1978
@eternityisreal1978 9 месяцев назад
So lost
@funkybob7772
@funkybob7772 9 месяцев назад
does the etymological interpretation of the name israel to be "isis ra elohim" have any merit to it?
@Diogenes_ofSinope
@Diogenes_ofSinope 8 месяцев назад
The idea that what Elija put on the offering wasn't water but some flammable liquid makes the story hit way different.
@kenmcclellan
@kenmcclellan 9 месяцев назад
Which is which? He was the junior divinity not alloted his own house of the zodiac. Which means he is associated with one of the celestial objects on a polar orbit at the equinoxes -- the "Axis." So, for example, when God said "Let there be light" and Agni (Fire) was the first word of the Rig Veda -- around 4500 BC -- Baal was associated with Orion and Taurus, where those signs separate from Gemini. Some 6,538 years prior, he had been at Leo-Virgo. So the ancients, notably the Ojuelans of Mexico, the Hindu and the Etruscans, knew that Ekpyrosis comes four times a Precession. And, since Baal showed up last time when this "Right Hand of the Father" was the Vernal Equinox ... and today he is the Summer Solstice ... we should probably be seriously concerned. The zodiac (with Baal) has moved 90 degrees. Six hours of right ascension. Ganesh was associated with the 1st of Aries (Zero degrees R.A.), as was Thoth. If you are looking for a Yahweh connection, study Jupiter who is currently in the House of Aries. He was the Sign of the Word in 2010 and 2022. Jupiter was the Yod. And the Yod-Hey was Jupiter at the heart of Aquarius, where he was with the Sun Feb 28 2010 and Mar 5 2022. Now we await the Vav-Hey to complete the Divine Name. Which, I believe, will be that initial object who gets thrown down in advance of the arrival of the New Sun. A la Isaiah 14. El, on the other hand, was probably Saturn ... who acts as our north star in this time. Saturn was the hour hand of the cosmos. Jupiter the minute hand (whose 'alarm' goes off near when Monoceros points at him). In other words, between now and next September. Last month, we saw a couple of big signs. This month, Mars and Horus reach for the Scales of Justice. In April to May we have Jacob's Ladder or the Sign of Jonas or the Boat of the Sun. In May, we have the tauroctony of the Epic of Gilgamesh. So yeah. Expect Apocalypse and Genesis. Nova is coming. Superflare is coming. Pole shift is coming. Best of luck!
@whtiequillBj
@whtiequillBj 7 месяцев назад
Is Israel the name of the people or is Elija praying for "thoughts who struggle with El" and through repetition because the people were so unfortunate they took on the name.
@slaintwice
@slaintwice 8 месяцев назад
The last boss of act 5 right?
@rodneyhatch56
@rodneyhatch56 9 месяцев назад
Cutting down sacred trees is truly bad form. This is why I am a buddhist, not a christian. Among other reasons. I like this speaker though. John Hamer.
@karinelaxa959
@karinelaxa959 9 месяцев назад
What has an Old testament text about burning sacred trees to do with Christians today? Nothing. Hebrew Bible = (old testament) tells about an ancient religion that is neither Judaism nor Christianity.
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 9 месяцев назад
This is kind of a funny statement if you know your Indian history, because Buddhist kings and emperors in India ALSO cut down sacred groves and tore down fire altars and funerary towers under the direction of their monks.
@aj-mv3un
@aj-mv3un 7 месяцев назад
Is he the same personality, after whom ' balbek ' is named ? If it so , then his existence, influence goes back to period of gobekly type.
@fadyalqaisy
@fadyalqaisy 6 месяцев назад
Not only Baalbek, but also Palestine, hence Pali-Stan
@teeteepalooza
@teeteepalooza 9 месяцев назад
I wish I could acquire a pocket-sized you to pull out whenever I have a question. 🤔
@DavidCostaUsa
@DavidCostaUsa 8 месяцев назад
Would Seraphim be from the word “Saraf” Saraph ? A kind of snake ? With wings ? Saraph Meophef ?
@LiGhTbOrN77
@LiGhTbOrN77 6 месяцев назад
Seraphim. Yes, absolutely. Combined with the idea of "burning" or being "on fire." These are the "burning ones." Winged Serpent like guardians of God's throne of which the Nachash in the garden of Eden was a rebellious member. Very good catch on your part.
@user-nd3wl3mz7s
@user-nd3wl3mz7s 8 месяцев назад
You are a good teacher,who teaches history of bible Thanks
@davidwest7776
@davidwest7776 2 месяца назад
The story of Elijah pouring jugs of water on wood which then suddenly catches fire reads like a majician's trick. Consider the possibility that the story's author knew that distilled alcohol can be made in a way that it is as clear as water. A spark which was hidden from sight could suddenly ignite the fire. Look at 1 kings 18:38. "The fire of the Lorld ........ licked up the water in the trench"
@labandonaldhock80
@labandonaldhock80 9 месяцев назад
Baal was the third son of Yahwey, when Yahwey divided the earth between his 70 sons, elders, Baal got Lebanon Sumeria and Akkadia,, Lebanon being the home of Baalbek, Yahwey's home and Baalport for his travel.
@kyalokamina6497
@kyalokamina6497 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂 where do you get this false information?
@labandonaldhock80
@labandonaldhock80 8 месяцев назад
@@kyalokamina6497Baalbek is 38 miles NE of Beirut and Baalport is adjacent to the SE, in the Hebrew Bible there were 40 Elders, 70 in the New Testament and via the Kings List of which there are some 7 identical copies we know who is who and Oxford University has at least one. We know the history of each in great detail.
@labandonaldhock80
@labandonaldhock80 8 месяцев назад
The Jews plan on rebuilding Yahwey's house Baalbek after the Temple and restoring Baalport .
@Lynece1
@Lynece1 8 месяцев назад
Can you tell me. What if😊 anything did the gods do to prove themself to man other than yahweh
@JerehmiaBoaz
@JerehmiaBoaz 9 месяцев назад
There was a backslash against the worship of the angel Metatron, this is referred to in the Talmud where Metatron receives 60 strokes by fiery rods to prove to Elisha ben Abuyah that he isn't a god.
@eternityisreal1978
@eternityisreal1978 9 месяцев назад
Talmud approves of pedophillia and children being sacrificed for their blood. Satan's book.
@philoaviaticus
@philoaviaticus 9 месяцев назад
Do one on Hellenised Jews. That follows the Phoenician-Jew conflicts this covers. They seemed to adopt hellenistic ways more readily.
@karenmoody2763
@karenmoody2763 9 месяцев назад
Curious ,where does the name jehovah come from?
@crisismanagement
@crisismanagement 9 месяцев назад
From early English translations.
@Yekemcar
@Yekemcar 8 месяцев назад
Baal, could it be (Ba-el) which means (Ba-: high, up, above, sky..) and (-el: ally, supporter, be by side..). In composed sense of Bael (a highest ally, upper supporter ..)
@johndiddo7821
@johndiddo7821 5 месяцев назад
Funny how the title makes it seems like baal still isn't around anymore...
@longcastle4863
@longcastle4863 2 месяца назад
Was it typical in the surrounding Nations for the religious institution to have as much power as the Israelite priests seem to have been able to muster and maintain?
@denaisaacthiswasgreat.thum7598
@denaisaacthiswasgreat.thum7598 7 месяцев назад
You were answering a question pertaining to the relic that was destroyed and it's connection to the serpent in the Garden.
@LiGhTbOrN77
@LiGhTbOrN77 6 месяцев назад
The Nachash.
@bobstown5259
@bobstown5259 7 месяцев назад
Israel means struggles with El. That's just priceless 😂
@fadyalqaisy
@fadyalqaisy 6 месяцев назад
It literally means the Captive of GOD
@Cmon2828
@Cmon2828 8 месяцев назад
So perhaps Emmanuel is El’s son but the Yahweh followers (modern day Israelis) say he has no son. Could we be witnessing religious in fighting between to precedent train of thoughts The Els vs the Yahwehs?
@HoosacValleyAhavah
@HoosacValleyAhavah 9 месяцев назад
Adonai is possesive not plural,plural would be Adonim
@Drottninggatan2017
@Drottninggatan2017 9 месяцев назад
And elohim can not be translated as god. It is also plural.
@JH-bf6qy
@JH-bf6qy 8 месяцев назад
And femininum...
@HoosacValleyAhavah
@HoosacValleyAhavah 8 месяцев назад
@@JH-bf6qy im suffix is masculine, feminine would end ot or at ,like as in daughters בנות banot
@dbarker7794
@dbarker7794 9 месяцев назад
Wonderful lecture. But no mention of Christian Baal. 🤔 More seriously, John Hamer does a great job reading those Old Testament passages. 👍
@existentialvoid
@existentialvoid 8 месяцев назад
The lecture is great - the buzzing sound is awful.
@stevebeeney9022
@stevebeeney9022 Месяц назад
So where/when is "Who Was Yahweh?"
@rychei5393
@rychei5393 7 месяцев назад
Mmm methink sTorah observance could not be before 250ish BCE... so the 400bce seems quite a bit off. Just archeologically, observance of Torah is not 100% positive till about 100BCE ... I think we are left wanting if claiming a pre Hasmodean Torah. This is really great work, thank you!
@vilnaukrana3891
@vilnaukrana3891 11 дней назад
Asherah sounds so similar to Ahura (Mazda). I wonder if there may be some connection.
@molotsipilane
@molotsipilane 5 месяцев назад
1. I still don't understand why "Elohim" is translated to god, when its supposed to mean plural/multiple gods. 2. I don't understand how Yehoshua/Yeshua which supposed to mean Joshua is translated again into Jesus. English translation of both Hebrew names (Elohim and Yeshua) is then normalized everywhere and so easily even by scholars as God & Jesus? How?
@ToxicGamer86454
@ToxicGamer86454 7 месяцев назад
How does it take 2 hours to explain “Who is Baal”? You could probably read every single text that mentions the thing in 15 minutes, if you’re a slow reader.
@miguellozano7130
@miguellozano7130 9 месяцев назад
May you please explain how Baal = shame boseth shiqquts
@proultravioleta
@proultravioleta 8 месяцев назад
Are those other Baals demonized by the Israelites? As Baal Zebul as Belzebuth and Baal Alil as Belial?
@randenpederson4784
@randenpederson4784 10 дней назад
If Soloman and maybe David weren't real guys and Jewelsalem was just a village, was the first temple actually a thing? Was it actually a magnificent structure? If so, who actually built it and when?
@davidchurch3472
@davidchurch3472 7 месяцев назад
Is it possibly that, whilst the rulers of the 'lost 10 tribes' were taken into Assyria, the rural part of the 10 tribes ( and possibly the majority of the peoples apart from those who fled overseas), got left behind, but without their administrative and cultural figures, and over time left alone, devloped into the 'Samaritans' ? This would doubly explain the distaste of later Jews from Judah for Samaritans, because the would view them also as 'leaderless, rural peasants with no educated administrative or ruling class descendants (although there were some very few maybe).
@woodsmn8047
@woodsmn8047 8 месяцев назад
I have to think of the TV series Stargate in which one of the main Protagonists is Baal
@MostHigh777
@MostHigh777 8 месяцев назад
He was my 6th grade homeroom teacher.
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