Why Apple Removed The MacBook's Touch Bar 

@@sunlessartist125 he didnt

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Yep. The touchbar wasn’t a bad idea. Removing keys was.

@@lacshy How long before they try removing the whole keyboard and putting in a touch screen?

It could never catch on since it replaced existing keys. If it was an additional row then it would've been much more popular

Another thing that I loved the Touch Bar is that it makes my Mac Book Pro look a little more futuristic. Feels that without it is a step back.

@@GeorgeVenturi Having the touchbar remove existing keys removed functionality. It would've been more futuristic as an extra bar over the function/media keys or at the bottom of the screen. Apple "borrowed" the design from Lenovo's X1 Carbon Gen2 laptops which came out in 2014. However it looks like Apple failed to notice the massive failure of that design as Lenovo reverted away from that design in 2015 with the X1 Carbon Gen3 laptops. They could've improved greatly upon the design but instead they followed in the same mistaken footsteps as Lenovo but, unlike Lenovo, it took Apple years to admit their mistake. I predict that we will see the return of the touchbar as an extra row now that Apple seems to be actually listening to the demands and desires of their customers.

Both rows could honestly just be removed altogether. Adopt something like layers, that way the user doesn't even need to move their hand to access more functionality.

agreed

It’s back anyway

It's garbage. Cool idea doesn't make it practical

@@om1701d It's only garbage for people who didn't actually found a use for it. I found that those users that do not find the use for it are not actually 'professionals' but mostly students. For professionals like myself, I found plenty of use out of it and it was amazing especially when you make app specific customisations. I cannot live without it and I am not willing to buy a separate keyboard to make custom keys, it's just impractical and silly.

@@3litepker lmao ok professional. I'm a software engineer and pretty much everyone else agrees it's a stupid design. It's garbage.

​@@om1701d It's very useful, especially when playing videos and music.

How about they replace the trackpad with a touchscreen? It is already haptic.

@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4or they make the trackpad a little smaller and add a touchbar above the fucntion keys

@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 no it'll break easily ngl. also if they managed to get the f row full height, maybe there could be an option for the half height f-row AND a touch bar, cause they're the same height.

@@ethereal41 I think one of the reasons that the Touch Bar failed because it’s a small long screen instead of a rectangular display which is easier to work with, like 1:1, 4:3 or 16:9

It’s cheaper. I LOVE MY TOUCH BAR

so true lol

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😂 100% spot-on comment!

same here. i love the touchbar, even tho i hated it at first.

agreed. the touch bar is awesome

Apple will solve your problem.... by selling the touch bar as a separate device

my first week using the 16inch. don't get me wrong it looks and feels much nicer, but something about the Touch Bar I enjoyed a lot .lol

Please don't replace your macbook.

You know what is revolutionary, touchscreens. Buttons for function keys are highly ergonomic.

They still use it I love it

Hp laptop had the touch bar

Well, my HP Elitebook 8440p has a touchbar, so good enough. Some toshibas do too

shhh keep it a secret

Can you please support me in buying a Mac pro, I have saved some money but I need help. Thank youuu

@@davidchukwudile5556 yeah sure, what help do u need?

@@davidchukwudile5556 sure if you can help me pay for my student loans!

@@loblolly4258 don’t fall for it. It’s a scam.

RIGHT! I literally just said this

Big brains I like it! I have one myself for my computer and it’s so useful especially when you edit paper or watch a film

they removed it because of demand, so in the future, you should have to rise your voice

This is the perfect reason why Apple keeps underselling things. They strip out features that you are already paying for, and then charge an extra so you can get it again.

it definitely wouldn't have been only 100$ extra

i don't think its very useful. in order to adjust the brightness i have to click on the brightness logo and then slide on it. Same thing with sound. It makes everything a whole lot useless. Like the video explains if they made it useful then it would be good but it wasn't useful it only looks cool. I went with the MBA for this single reason. I want a fan on mine but i never went for the mbp 13 inch because of the touch bar. Im glad you like it man but in my view i despise it lol.

@@13gta And for the exact reason you despise it, I love it! I think being able to slide my finger across the top to change the brightness is fantastic. Much more useful than having to hit the brightness key over and over again. It's crazy how one person can despise something and the other, love. And I'm sure you're thinking "how is sliding a finger easier than tapping on a brightness key?".

@@13gta you don’t actually have to click it before sliding, just touch the icon and begin sliding immediately. No need for multiple touches.

I mean most of the time it was just a funny gadget. Not really something „pros“ could actually work with.

I think it should be a option when you buy the MacBook

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That’s not the same. You can not take your eyes of the road in a car, but you can look at your keyboard.

Woah what are you doing in this comment section?!

I’m indifferent but I’m happy with my MacBook touchbar spec. M1 chip 32gb RAM 1TB SSD

ever?

hey man, do u happen to use after effects it illustrator? I'm want to buy de mbp and Id like to know how they interact with the touchbar

Until soldered shut components on it fail and they will and you will have a doorstop

I’m gonna keep mine for as long as I can, ‘cause the Touch Bar is so fun to use.

hey it may be more valuable one day 😅

I feel the same. Will stay with my touchbar MBP and not upgrade until the bring it back.

You will be forced to one day. Me personally, I use it all the time and love it.

same

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what daw do you use?

I agree, I believe the people that don’t like the touch bar were loud, people who like didn’t defend themselves. Function keys along with Touch Bar can be possible. It’s sad to see now it’s gone :(

It’s not that loud anyway; the physical buttons lol

It’s very easy to hate it because it was an absolute nightmare for touch typists, accidental strokes, zero haptic feedback, no tactile feel only made things worse since it was dramatically slowing them down. And btw, you don’t need to Touch Bar to skip the ads, you can do that in the player in the Control Center too.

@@loki.8435 it’s quicker with the Touch Bar since you can just have the media controls always open

If you are using emojis, you arent anyways the user for a MacBook Pro...

But the video just explained why people hate it…

You just watched a video explaining why it sucks yet you still don’t understand why it sucks??? Gradient control of volume and sound can be done by the drop down menu at the top right, word correction can be done without the touch bar??? Idk what you were trying to say there, and I don’t know a single person who uses a laptop without touching the keyboard,if you want silent operation just lightly press the key, it’s not like they are cherry mx blues, and it wasn’t very customizable. I had a MacBook Pro with the touch bar for 3 years and only touched the Touch Bar for keyboard lighting controls to save battery. I would much prefer just having physical function keys instead of always having to find them first.

@@NoHope_ I personally both like some of the functionality of the Touch Bar and totally understand why it was loathed. If they didn't replace function keys and/or added a haptic engine underneath the bar, and also keep it as a separate SKU or just not on Pro models (it was always kind of a flashy yet not totally functional thing anyway) I think it would have been way better received. I happen to agree with Apple not making a touch screen MacBook and get that this was kind of their compromise there but damn I really do like my Touch Bar MacBook Pro

I'm not a heavy computer user but I know function keys need to work precisely and mis-clicks can be super frustrating

@@matthewyeomans7106 it just got in my way and wasted battery life that was already low on a laptop with an i9 burning up inside. You still have a lot of the functionality with physical keys just not app specifics.

If I’m right it works with the >> key on a traditional Mac keyboard as well.

Me too, i prefer to spend money to fix it instead

I love the fact I can receive and control phone calls while on Windows Remote Desktop without having to swipe back to Mac OS Touch bar is the greatest thing to people doing presentation with Microsoft powerpoint. The fact that you could see all your pages while in full screen mode is like the biggest game changer in the world. There are like a million uses for the Touch Bar especially people that watch things like shorts, TikTok, Instagram or Ads. You can literally fast forward or rewind any kind of video. When I say any video, I mean any video. The only device in the world that lets you do so. Touch screen phones/tablets don't even give you that option. I have a 13 M2 pro with Touch Bar, but display stopped working and instead of fixing it, I decided to get a M2 Air without a Touch Bar and its been hell for me to adjust especially with use of Emojis and auto correct option. It is just sad that some miserable people had to complain about it and made apple stop producing it 🤦🏾‍♂ Now I need to go back and fix my 13 pro M2 to get back into those good ol' times.

it rarely gets buggy these days with updates. The latest touchback macbook pro (the one I'm using as we speak) has only ever given me one (10 minutes to resolve) bug and has worked flawlessly since

I like it too, and in 2017 they could’ve added some more stuff to it and fixing the problem of the virtual top row. I find the bar really fun to use.

Wow I actually thought the majority liked it I was one of the few that didn't like it. It was the sole reason I kept buying MacBook Air instead of the Pros. However I agree that ultimately everyone has different preference and it would be nice if you can choose between two options, but I guess it was an extra cost they didn't want to have.

Seems like a lot of people liked it 😅

They should’ve made it so you could have custom layouts depending on the app you were using. Then you could set an app to have buttons or sliders for certain functions even if the developers didn’t build one in

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Yep macs are already a segmented OS but then the Touch Bar was only on MacBook pros a smaller fraction of a fraction and just nonexistent for desktops, honestly I think an external keyboard with a touch bar above the function keys would be interesting

@@MicahAP514 You gave me an idea for my next project

Sincerely, for my use, the touchbar already works where I use it. Discord has shortcuts, Microsoft Office, Safari, Finder and all the Apple Apps. I love deleting files from the touchbar, changing brightness and volume is much easier and fluid, I can change text color with ease, mute myself, change tabs, search on safari easily. And it is all customizable. So, in fact, it has been a success for me.

There is still the problem that you need to look at it. If it was an additional row on top of f1 keys it could be useful gimmick, tho

hey, do u happen to use after effects it illustrator? I'm want to buy de mbp and Id like to know how they interact with the touchbar

Same.

ooo ikr!

Same here! Love the touchbar for Pycharm and also customized it with different sites like overleaf so I save a ton of time there too.. They say it's not for pros yet with the customization I did it's a lifesaver in those pro apps. I'm not upgrading my m1 mbp till they bring the touchbar back or my mpb fails me.

Same!!!

Glad to see I am not crazy. Was thinking I was the only one who liked it

I hate it because of that flickering glitch that happens.

I have the one with touch bar

They tried to make it work for years, they didn’t abandon it, it was trash and no one liked it.

@@NoHope_ Except for the minority that did, like me. Although I understand why it had to go.

@@NoHope_ Welp looks like im sticking with a Touch Bar mbp forever then

I thought about that too

You mean like the Elgato Stream Deck XL?

@@ZacGolus Kind of, but imagine ANY program (that the user allows) being able to use those buttons, like the Touch Bar. That would be amazing!

Feel like that would be extremely hard to manufacturer and make work

It’s physically impossible in mbp thickness nowadays

on my 2020 macbook pro I can still skip RU-vid ads via the touch bar. this is probably the biggest reason I'm going to hold onto this laptop forever

exactly. In my workflow, hitting a shortcut, like cmd-R, is still faster than lifting the hand up and navigating to the right touchbar 'button'. With the exception of the audio control, and the lock key, have not found any use for it.

Yes even for me i love the physical buttons on my m1pro when i do my python stuff

Curved screen not only benefits to the appearance, but also gives a slimmer, seamless feeling on touching when you hold it without dumb phone cases on it.

The touch screen is much better in my opinion. I never had a problem with mistypes. It felt clean and it felt like a phone and computer all at once. When doing editing, it helps even more.

Skipping ads on yt👌

the main thing I miss about the touchbar is being able to tap on the touch bar to put my mac to sleep without having to close the lid. Now with the new M1 mac, I had to create a keyboard shortcut to put my mac to sleep. Not as convenient as using the touchbar.

@@MultiShiv19 you can add that button to the touchbar. Use the lock button, then it goes to sleep. I use it that way.

You have a player in the control centre of the menu bar? You can skip ads from there too, you don't need the Touch Bar at all.

@@MultiShiv19 use alfred..

@@loki.8435 Why take the long way around? I’d prefer to stay in fullscreen so when an ad comes up, swipe and I’m done. They also made the media controls small enough to be a pain to click on since I’m so quick to skip YT ads.

you will change your mind if it goes bad

Same here. I won’t upgrade my model anytime soon

No way, Made it look like some cheap windows third world computer. Pretty much everyone that loves it is more of a phone/ipad person while the people that don't like it are real power users.

hey, do u happen to use after effects it illustrator? I'm want to buy de mbp and Id like to know how they interact with the touchbar

@@deathseries-bj7py The touchbar works great with illustrators apps.

Yeah, me too, I wish they kept it as an option.

I’m kind of hoping they keep the Touch Bar and rename the 13” MacBook Pro to just MacBook. It creates a new 3 tier structure, MacBook Air for (relative)low cost light weight computing. MacBook for people that need just a bit more power, battery, want a bit more tech like brighter screen and Touch Bar, but aren’t pro users that need massive power. And MacBook Pro for the people that need a lot of power on the go.

I agree!! I use that feature so much and it helped me have access to things faster. Too bad they got rid of it.

Me too

@@johnatkinson1111 That sounds like a good idea. To me, the Touch Bar was something “special” and besides a few glitches, I do really love the look/feel/functionality of it. I know, the functionality in Third-Party Apps was not crazy revolutionary, to be honest. But just the option to adjust the volume by simply sliding over the button is satisfying enough for me 😄 (Every Touch Bar Lover would understand)

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With BetterTouchTool you can add so many features. I have a folder with macros for word functions (word count, speech length calculations, lorem), one for screenshots, one for launching pomodoros… stuff you want to access routinely but not memorize shortcuts for.

same the only reason why I got my M1 MacBook Pro was because of the Touch Bar otherwise I would of got the M1 Air (at the time)

Just go back to whatever apps and ipad you were using before hand if you want some goofy lightshow

No need to be rude my dude

@@Cobalt20 uhh no one was being rude to you, not sure why you are scolding me??

Hi i want to ask you if the old intel MacBook pros have big heating issues and slow performance compared to the m1 as people say, i want to buy one but i saw the m1 cant run native windows and software compatibility is bad I’m looking for one for video editing and motion graphic

@@BothWelcome Im telling you now man. Your gonna regret getting an intel macbook. at that point just get a hp spectre x360 14 which is great for the price range or a Lenovo yoga if your looking for windows software man. if not get a M1 macbook or those 2 great laptops

@@easyonlinefinds7297 ok thanks man

@@BothWelcome i use a 13 inch maxed out macbook pro with m1, its lightning fast it can run windows through parallels and software compatibility is getting fixed quickly adobe and microsoft apps have the support now and davinci resolve runs good even through rosetta, you should definitely get one

@@BothWelcome have you checked out parallels? You can run windows on any Mac, and go with the M1 ;-)

Yep. I think a haptic touchbar would work well *above* the row of function keys

I remember when i first found this out!!

oh yea lol

I have the uBlock extension, but how does the touch bar work for skipping ads?

@@jakeabc123 with slider video timer, fortunately it workd for yt ads

my goodness, thank god

And btw, spammers out of the replies please!

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