There is a confound there (unless the research design included a control). Attractiveness is associated with money/status. So a woman's attractiveness may be an effect of her access to money.
I had two women who raised me. My grandmother and my mother. My grandmother had a very bad case of a severely disfiguring genetic illness. She was withdrawn, of course, but also very kind, patient, loving, supportive. My mother was an extremely attractive woman with a vicious temper. When she started a verbal assault you were afraid it was going to get to the point where you would be killed but by the time she finished you were hoping you could die. She was smart and very savvy because she knew how to put on a good front when she needed to. She was a master manipulator. Just because someone is intelligent and/or good-looking it absolutely is no indicator of whether they are a nice person.
If your EI is high like your IQ, your sophisticated enough to recognize your audience tailoring speech to connect. Otherwise, how intelligent are you without self knowing enough to adapt to the environmental and social conditions occuring. Ie you couldn't blend in to get in, undercover people are scary intelligent for this reason.
Late bloomers often spend time reading, or cultivating intelligence through hobbies. When they “bloom” as adults they are surprised to be considered attractive. I think that’s why many attractive people are intelligent and seek out like minded mates.
I’ve always been told I was really smart maybe not school wise since I never paid attention but I can still pay attention at any point of the lesson and know more than everyone else but I was never really attractive until after puberty (looking half adult and child) so I think I’d be considered a late bloomer but I think it’s better to grow up that way so you know what it’s like to not have the special treatment from being a 10 and know it’s only bc of how you look and u get to better see the world (for attractive people so they don’t get spoiled and everything done for them in school Like I did and be better prepared and actually do shit for your self
@@Bbbbbfs I was awkward from age 8 through 13, then I blossomed. My personality is affected by those years of awkwardness. I don’t have the confidence or social success an attractive person should have.
@@genxx2724 better than my situation, I'm 16 and I don't see that "blossom" ever coming to me, but hey, I don't know you or your life and you me, so what do I know
@@genxx2724 This happened to me too, but I wonder about your comment. What confidence or social success do you think an attractive person SHOULD have, exactly? This is achieved through time. Work on your career. You will gain confidence through achieving goals, never through superficial attractiveness. Take my word for it. I've been in commercials, modeled, many other "attractiveness" related things. I'm middle aged now. Your other comment about "make a man special", you need to get over yourself.
Physical fitness is associated with attractiveness. Physical fitness also improves a persons mental state. Achieving physical fitness (if you arent naturally fit) also requires intelligence, conscientiousness, persistence and willpower...
There are millions of intelligent people in the world who aren't physically fit. Having willpower, persistence and motivation are attributes of a healthy mental state, which is not correlated with intelligence.
@@WackazSomebody who uses their intelligence in all areas of their lives to attain greater mental and physical health and wellbeing is clearly far more intelligent than somebody who follows contraproductive and self sabotaging behaviors and only applies their intelligence in a few narrow domains.
@@Wackaz Being physically fit is good for intelligence. If you aren't physically fit, you're gonna be further from your "intelligence ceiling" than if you were fit. And, long term, your body as a whole (including your brain) will degrade if you don't take care of it
Intelligent people may be consciousness (and trust me many also aren't), but they will more often than others put their focus into activities/ occupations, which challenge them cognitively rather than physically. In my experience people with high intelligence are considerably less interested in physical fitness and activities than others. You won't meet the most intelligent people in a fitness studio but rather in a science or mathematics course at an university. Students especially in some of the most cognitively challenging courses aren't most of the time physical fit. Probably even below average. Is such behavior sensible? No, but being intelligent doesn't make one act reasonable and sensible automatically. High intelligence isn't required to live a good and healthy life. It even might be an obstacle to do so as high intelligence correlates with mental illness.
@@IsomerSoma You are talking about a societal stereotype which has no scientific basis. We know with plenty of evidence that keeping physically active, fit and in shape is a tremendous contributor to physical AND mental health, wellbeing and cognitive performance (including intelligence). Neglecting your body to focus on tasks of cognition simply is not intelligent, it is in fact dumb. Because we know without any shred of doubt that cognition is substantially impaired by a body in bad shape.
I think another reason this theory might tend to be predictive is that attractive people are more likely to have opportunities; especially in the job market (this is provable), and also in school. If an attractive kid gets more and better attention from his teachers and later has more favorable job opportunities, might that lead to higher IQ scores?
@Laughingathwrld Just like most humans love gold. Anything that stands out we care about it. If it’s a predator we run away, if it’s something we want or other people want, we run forwards it
8:00 - "Attractiveness is subjective and, of course, intelligence is subjective." YES! Those were my thoughts exactly while listening to Dr. Grande explain the studies! Thanks for another interesting video, Dr. Grande!
@aaronsdavis So you're saying that all men are universally attracted to super models? I'm sure you haven't thought that through enough. The thing is that you can't really define something such as beauty or intelligence because it depends on the view of the observer. So, yes, both are subjective.
To me, creativity and compassion are the most attractive traits that a person can have. However being beautiful can definitely open doors for a person in this world.
Excellence, in combination with confidence within that realm is generally perceived as more attractive, then ultimately perceived as a form of higher intelligence. Thank for your thoughtfulness & objectivity Doc.
My high school psychologist told me that I scored 154 on the I.Q. test that he administered, but no one has ever accused me of being good looking. Even the women I've dated haven't tried to tell me that I'm good looking; they've said things like, "Looks aren't important to me." I certainly couldn't be described as "high status," either. (I abandoned a career in mechanical engineering in order to teach; I now work as a substitute teacher, which is about as low status as a person can get.) I suspect that the correlation between a woman's attractiveness and the status of her husband is much stronger than the correlation between a woman's attractiveness and the intelligence of her husband. I suspect that the correlation between a woman's attractiveness and her husband's attractiveness is stronger, too. I don't think that homely, intelligent men who fail to achieve high status have much luck finding attractive wives.
I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here. Not every person that is intelligent (there are different types of intelligence) need be succesful, but generally in order to become succesful you need to be intelligent enough. There are other factors, of course. Yes, you are a teacher, which is only middle class, but that is by choice. You could have done much more with your life (you gave up an engineering career) if you had chosen this.
@@bexiebrooks1583 He’s not saying that there is something wrong, but there is no denying that it is not a high status job primarely because of the low income compared to other professions such as doctor, lawyer, engineer etc. He is right that really attractive women - at least most of them- try to go out with higher status men- upper middle class and upwards. Men who are teachers aren’t really seen as high value by the general female population. It is just natural for high status people to search for high status partners. I’ve rarely seen a male teacher with a model-like GF or wife. The pairs I’ve seen are mostly homely; their spouses look like the girl-next-door type.
Attractive people also have better interactions and kinder treatment, I can imagine this allows for better learning and more opportunities to learn/gain diverse experiences.
1 thoughts. 1. Beautiful people tend to be more confident (as a result of how society treats them etc) and maybe that confidence lends them extra credibility. 2. In my experience, the intelligence of beautiful women is often underestimated as people often don't correleate beauty with intelligence in women (from what I've seen and heard).
I keep thinking back to being a kid and the adults yelling things like, "Try to look and act like you got some sense!" I guess they didn't even know how useful that advice was. HAHA
Seems to me that high IQ people are usually unattractive. Look at the highest rated chess players, and famous scientists. Almost all of them are unattractive. Even people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk.
Just brainstorming here, but I think it's easier to be in the beautiful/intelligent range of this study than most are assuming. :) If I heard the video correctly, the study considered people to be beautiful or intelligent if they were in the top 50% of society. If you've been to Walmart lately, think about how many people are in there. It's pretty easy to be in the top 50% in there. LOL People considered 'intelligent' are likely constantly working out their brain and making it work better. They are more likely to make themselves look neat and put-together on the outside and make some decent choices as far as eating and general health. They'd be more likely to fix their hair, wear clean clothes, and have good posture and some confidence. Those things alone make a person more attractive than the other half of the population who gave up on themselves a long time ago. People who gave up on their outward appearance likely have very low self-esteem and as a result, don't believe in themselves enough to work towards intelligence. I also want to point out that people in the 'beautiful' range are still not likely 'beautiful' at all hours of the day or 100% of their lives. They were just the ones who were able to make themselves look beautiful long enough to be considered that for the study. So I guess what all my rambling concludes is that 'beauty' for this study was people who look neat, clean, and healthy. People who were 'intelligent' in this study just had to have more sense than 50% of the population. That's not so hard to do these days. HAHA *I'm mostly joking around. :)
Even if you dress better than 80% of people, your physical attractiveness will still be limited by your facial and body structure. There’s only so much you can do. Still, I agree it’s worth doing whatever you can. I am physically (facially) attractive yet treat my body like shit. If a guy with a 5 face and a six-pack competes with me, some people might favor him.
@@chaostheory16 Well developed social skills might make up for being overweight, but as for pure looks (tinder is a great example of this in action) you won't even be considered. Being fit will make you more attractive, no matter your natural looks. Though your chance(starting point) is relative according to your natural looks(bone structure, etc...) Look at Chris Pratt - he wasn't considered especially attractive before he became fit. The inverse is also true. Christian Bale in american hustle put on a lot of pounds for the screen and though his good looks saved him from 'ugliness', few would deem him attractive. You'd have to be in denial to reject the correlation.
There's a fine line between genius and lunacy. Go back a few decades (before universities were as profit-driven as they are these days) and think of the "mad professor" trope. Some of these highly intelligent people do not do a particularly good job of presenting themselves. . Look at people like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. By and large, they are not frantically good looking. (I've also heard some claims that Jobs wasn't really into hygiene.)
This is good! I do believe beauty is so subjective! I have found, in my limited experience, that the most attractive thing about a man beyond the way he looks, and even his intelligence/wisdom; is knowing who he is. And attributes like love, leadership, and kindness. I think those things are the most beautiful. Unfortunately, everyone seems so damaged now a days and extremely insecure! I firmly believe that before you find a mate, you need to be whole..which is why I need to be single.. Not perfect, but whole. Great video Dr. Grande!
What comes to my mind is the truism that the world is very unequal. Yes, absolutely. Beauty, intelligence, wealth, everything, in fact, worldly people desire - they are not equally distributed. Make the most of what God and nature gave you. Be thankful and generous to all.
I like intelligence. I think it’s a turn on. I want to learn from a potential partner; his life, his likes, his ways and more. Idealistically we should compliment each other. Fall in like and then potentially in love with their soul. Since I’m legally blind, beauty to me Isn’t about physicality...tho I think in time all that is superficial will fade. •shrugs•
Haha @RegO true, Siri would make a horrible companion. Personality counts, dry sense of humor, dark sense of humor, eh well hmm an actual sense of humor… helps. Laughter can often get you through the door. The ability to hold a conversation, now that’s imperative. I think it’s beautiful to witness someone passionate about life, or at least passionate about what they’re doing in their‘s. How would you define intelligence?
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough. And irritating. If you like to learn, marry a teacher or professor but intelligence in my opinion is very overrated as a positive trait as it allows people to take advantage of others, for domination in social contexts (which women like, but they are not angels either) and last but not least the technological advance it allows for is threatening to severely fuck up the climate/environment/enonomy (automatization/monopoly).
@Noise Injection what if someone was fat as a kid so thought of as ugly but began to lose weight and got to a point where he became skinny and now he looks really good?
@Leandro Aude "In fact, when you see a peculiarly attractive person who is also smart, chances are he wasn´t that attractive while he was growing up." What does being smart have to do with being ugly while growing up?
Can't get much more beautiful than she was. I remember when there was Rachel Welch, Elizabeth Taylor, and Sophia Loren, and then there were all the other women in the world.
@LogicianTenderstone She’s calling him intelligent using the context of this video, and apparently Dr. G. agrees with her, seeing as he liked her comment. Please enlighten us on how this is ignorant and sexist. Thanks!
The critical appraisal of the papers is very satisfying. People often pit arguments and results against each other without contextualising the findings or addressing the quality of the research. Love this channel
Beautiful people are intelligent? That's news to me lol and goes against my experience. However generalizations are lazy so I'm sure you will break this down nicely Dr. Grande. Whoever asked this is probably high on the narcissistic spectrum, I would assume.
Yes, I've never heard that before; but we all heard that BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE ARE STUPID. Photo models, blonde bombshells with air in their heads, Zoolander... Men being shamed when they prefer women who are sexy and don't care about what's inside their head. Beauty is always regarded as superficial, and beautiful people as superficial.
But that’s an assumption...that a narcissist would ask that. :) Anyone who is curious could ask. Maybe someone observed some things that made them wonder...or is questioning their own narratives and want Dr Grandes opinion. Your assumption means that you’ve established beliefs about the questioner without having that info. Meaning you applied meaning or a story to the question... most humans do this. It’s good to recognize, be introspective and wonder at our biases, false narratives that may warp our lenses...creating such assumptions. A person who is victim to a narcissist who claims that “beautiful people are more intelligent” could have asked this too... We humans take a small bit of info and create the whole pic around it & it’s rarely correct. The more info, the more questions we ask, the less judgment we apply...more chance our assessment is closer to accurate. Just consider, not all is as we believe... most of the time 😊
At 9:25, Dr. Grande, using a stereotype and laughing at it gracefully. :) People need to define what is "being" intelligent, in contrast with "appearing" intelligent. What it comes down to is what happens when you meet someone who delves into the subject that you "appear" to be intelligent about on a much deeper level than needed. A number of people would view someone too knowledgable on a subject that they themselves don't know much about as arrogant, but that is a projection of their own feeling of insecurity on a particular subject. I find that you get more out of being genuinely invested in what the person is telling you, asking questions, or being lighthearted, and that it makes the encounter relatively agreeable for both parties involved, as well as memorable positively for both people.
There may be a part of intelligence which is genetic and cross selected, but attractiveness may also affect intelligence devellopement. Attractive people may have less challenges in life and may not devellop their intellect as much, but we could also think they may have more opportunities to experiment than unnatractive people. Beauty and intelligence may be cross selected but i think the subject is more complex. Attractiveness is not constant. You have late bloomers, people going sour fastly and other staying attractive while older. I dont think intelligence is selected in the same way in each stage of life.
Women during their youth (child bearing) are at peak of perceived attractiveness. So they would possibly be selected on that basis, even if that beauty faded in old age.
As always, thought provoking, Dr. Grande. Apparently whether mate selection is female driven or male driven is a variable of the evolution of beauty in the animal kingdom. For instance, many male birds have evolved a flashy appearance radically different from that of the female. But in other animal species, where the strong male tends to have a harem, herd, pack, etc. this hasn't occurred...........
@@jazmine9570 I’ve been told I’m very attractive (some people even go as far as labelling me a “pretty boy”) but I suffer from lifelong body dysmorphia so my physical sense of self is extremely skewed. I agree with both of y’all’s statements about beauty/neuroticism seeming to correlate, as well as intelligence. Along with BD and extreme ADHD, I have also realize I carry paranoia traits as well. I’m not trying to make a pity party with this shit, just wanted to chime into the conversation.
I wonder if those that are "physically attractive" have their confidence with their appearance transfer in their IQ test. Maybe one has less doubt in themself and go with their first answer instead of second guessing themself and switching their answer. Real interesting subject you picked Dr. Grande.
Also, physically attractive people may get more opportunities in the workplace which could lead to learning more, applying skills earlier in their career, etc. leading others to believe they may be more intelligent.
I’d be interested to know how attractiveness was measured here. I think intelligence does to some extent shine through as a gleam in the eye or an expression on the face, to some extent at least, making more intelligent people seem a bit more attractive than less intelligent people with the same features. (Hairstyle and clothes could also be a factor.) It also depends what they mean by successful people improving their attractiveness. You suggested that this was by plastic surgery (I can’t remember whether explicitly or implicitly), but there are far more ways. People who are more intelligent and/or more successful are more likely to eat more healthily - Richmond upon Thames is the least overweight constituency in the U.K., I believe. Rich people are more likely to use good hair and skin products. Successful people are more likely to be competitive and thus more likely to exercise. Conversely, attractive people are treated better, so they are more likely to flourish in school and maximize their intelligence. So even if there *is* a correlation, there are lots of factors as to why.
I believe the more important and clearest correlation here is the one between confidence (a factor demonstrably more common in attractive people) and test performance (which is about as related to the raw intelligence that could be described as hereditary as it is to an aggregate of factors that includes things such as focus and confidence). For one reason or another, it has been demonstrated that a person is usually comparably intelligent to one's parents. It's not always clear whether this is nature or nurture, and there are also outliers in either direction. If you add to everything else the possibility of a difference in educational quality (i.e., access to prestigious schools among people of "higher status," to which we might assume a higher proportion of attractive people belong, and preferential treatment toward more attractive students), and it becomes difficult to isolate the factors well enough to have an accurate study on the correlation between raw intelligence and attractiveness.
Extremely interesting. I never knew there was a significant correlation between physical attractiveness and intelligence. It does seem have to do with evolution, and positive traits being passed down in certain lucky individuals.
I always thought that someone can be physically attractive on the outside but that may change once they open their mouth. Kind, loving people will appear more beautiful and those who are rude, mean appear less attractive.... these are my thoughrs
thebarky1988 I think you’re deluding yourself-and/or are a woman. I’ve met plenty of hot but mean people. I still wanted to fuck many of them. I’m a dude. This goes for most guys I know. Crazy might be a different story, but just snobbish or even mean? Eh. Doesn’t mean I’d want a relationship, but a quick shag? Why not?
I really enjoy your channel, Dr Grande. You’re very well spoken and clear for us lay people, I’m literally hanging off your every word. Your wise words have helped me beyond words. Thanks for being awesome.
One positive correlation is that intelligent people make smarter choices, like about their health for example. Being healthy makes you appear more beautiful. Also, make better decisions regarding stress, this may reduce anxiety and these things wear on ones body. So, it's not the looks itself, but the other way around.
After working with Intellectually Disabled adults for 10 years, I have to agree with you. Some of our residents had human effectiveness skills that were superior to our high IQ behavioral staff.
@@gmjsimmons Pink Floyd was already talking about Mental Health in "Dark Side of the Moon" back in 1973. And NOTHING ever changed, things only became worse since then. There is also things like the anti-psychiatry movement which has been in activity since the 40's I believe? There's a bunch of criminals out there who live off the misery of others, there's an entire industry out of that.
@@FeelingShred Yeah, one of Pink Floyd's founders, Syd Barrett, became mentally ill and had to leave the band. Psychiatric/psychological interventions are improving at least over the 50 years I've been in the field, but our culture has made hit and miss policies for caring for the mentally ill. While I have few new ideas, I do have hope that the field will continue to improve.
@@gmjsimmons Save your "lectures" for someone else. I know very well the story of Syd Barrett already. And I don't need to hear your words of prejudice and regurgitating internet articles about the guy. A bit more respect is appreciated.
@@gmjsimmons And Pink floyd was writing about other themes, not exclusively about him either. People have to stop with this obsession about talking on subjects they don't have knowledge or experience about.
I think there is a difference between “intelligence” and “common sense-street smarts” a lot of “attractive people I know may be intelligent students/people but couldn’t figure out how to boil an egg even with an instruction manual. Then you have to determine what is the standard of “beauty”. Honestly no matter what a person looks like if their personality is ugly it tends to take over any physical attractiveness they may have.
Good video. Have you seen the study where people were able to guess the IQs of strangers by looking at pictures of their faces, to a statistically greater than random degree of accuracy? And throw in that we now have some evidence to support physiognomy. It all makes perfect sense to me - when you´re looking at beauty, you´re looking at genes. More koinophilia, less mutations, stronger genes, higher SMV, higher intelligence, all correlated to some degree, though certainly not perfectly.
I want to appear more intelligent so that people will pay attention to me (because attention is currency in the marketplace of ideas). I hate doing beauty work though 😖 It feels so inauthentic
I think "beauty work" feels inauthentic to a lot of people. It's just not something that's ever talked about. Then again, it could be that many people never pause to reflect on how inauthentic they really are.
I see where you are coming from because I was/am one of the few people who could do beauty type work despite having uni degrees etc. It used to annoy me to be seen as just a creature of beauty but basically dumb, because I happened to to bits of modelling and creative activities and like "beautiful anything". And, to cap it all off, I am blonde and female, too. The classic " dumb blonde" package. But I eventually concluded that whatever most people think is irrelevant to me. All that matters is what I and people I like and respect think and feel. Intelligence takes many forms and can be defined and seen in many forms. Like the way a person lives their own life, copes with problems etc. You definitely do not nerd university degrees to prove you ate an intelligent human being. Nor do you need to be rich and successful in the conventional way. You can be poor and still very intelligent, successful, too. For instance if you are living the sort of life you truly love. For artistic, spiritual type people, that is often a life where the pursuit of truth or beauty in its many forms eg art, nature, ingenuity etc is all that matters. And they are happiest doing that. Whatever the rest of society values is unimportant to them. They are freed from the shackles of sheep like conformism to certain irrelevant, unimportant ideas, values etc the rest blindly adhere to (and are often enslaved by eg quest for materialistic wealth). Do, who is the most successful in reality? The contented creative beauty lover with little or the miserable rich materialistic type with everything? It's all relative. You to not have to live up to anybody else's expectations or yardstick of success. Only your own and that of people who mean something to you.
In my experience and travels in many countries, I've noticed more attractive people who came from a poor peasant / farmers / villager background than their wealthier more educated urbanized counterparts
Seems more like this is the 'halo effect' whereby people view beautiful people more positively than ugly people rather than something that can actually be measured.
There's an old song that goes "If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife..." which is BS, but this lecture reminds me of it. Very interesting Dr. Grande.
"Becoming more physically attractive is far more difficult" Becoming more physically attractive is actually pretty damn simple compared to cutting time off how fast you can run a mile.. You can increase one's physical attractiveness by a standard deviation in one day, by simply giving them a hair cut and changing their cloths. Try improving your time running that mile by a standard deviation in the same time. Physical attraction is not some magical concept... Are some people naturally more attractive than others? Of course. But that tends to boil down to facial symmetry & appropriately masculine/feminine features (which are indicators of high fertility in both genders) Yes.. physical attractiveness is really that simple.. yes humans are THAT basic.. get over it.. So you want to be more my physically attractive? Hit the gym and do the above. Incidentally, while a new hair cut may not make you more intelligent, hitting the gym can have profound benefits upon cognitive performance. This is because the increased blood flow to the brain from exercising helps promote healthy neural growth/development. Incidentally, the above is likely the actual connection between being 'beautiful' and intelligent. Some people just have lovely faces, which again comes down to facial symmetry. Which indicates the individual had a healthy prenatal development. Which correlates to healthy early brain development, which would indicate the individual to be of at least average intelligence. I don't know why people pretend things are so much more complicated than this. Are there outliers? Of course. But there are outliers in all fields of study. This is why outliers are typically excluded and studies focus upon the average/mean results.
Interesting because I've always associated physically attractive people with less intelligence and that seems to have been the general narrative among people in my area. Which is often reinforced when I witness it first hand while dating. In my experience, the prettier the woman is, the less she has to rely on anything of value because her beauty opens up opportunities she would never have if she was 'ugly' or less attractive. Intelligence can lead to over thinking and procrastination which can lead to fear of taking action, which results in many missed opportunities. I have two extremely intelligence friends who are both 350 or more pounds of fat and both of them are college graduates. Both of them are also jobless and poor. Intelligence isn't measured by confidence but confidence leads to opportunities in dating and life. A confident person will get a promotion simply because they made an effort. Even though that person likely isn't the most qualified for the position. 90 percent of people who quit their jobs do it because of incompetent and unqualified toxic managers. While at the same time, those people are more likely to be successful with dating and general income just because they made the effort. Confidence is attractive, success is typically a result of being confident and confidence will attract good looking partners, even if one of them is mediocre in the looks department. If being attractive is associated with intelligence and success, it's likely because it's more common for these people to have confidence based on their looks. However, it's still a far shot from being able to say that good looking people are intelligent. How often do we meet a sexy scientist or doctor? Ironically enough, studies have shown that good looking people in those professions are often perceived as less intelligent based on how good looking they happen to be, even if it's not the case.
Indulge me briefly on the rank of physical attractiveness for some men. I have a good friend who was dating a knockout but man, was she a pain. Drama queen extraordinaire. He tried and eventually succeeded in breaking it off but not without major disruption to his life. I have another friend who owned a bar back then, a Cheers kind of place, where I would stop occassionally to have a drink with her, the owner. The drama queen started showing up there. One of the regulars asked me for her number. I told him he should ask her and added "She's trouble, with a capital T." And he said "A pretty face can make up for a lot of things." So, even knowing in advance, he didn't care. Her beauty, and she was gorgeous, outweighed anything else. I understand it but I don't at the same time. Great video as always. Thank you!
I always ask to my mother before I even had my Nursing degree how did employers know that I was so intelligent considering they spoke to me for 10 minutes. A mother said all you had to do was open your mouth. It's the way you speak it's the way you carry yourself it's just the way you come across and people can see that. Of course I had a very low opinion of myself and could not understand until quite recently. I had very low self-esteem and was horribly bullied at school I came from a wealthy family which was my first strike I had a nearly perfect body which was my second strike and I was taller than everybody in the school which was my third strike. The girls didn't like me because I was pretty the boys didn't like me because I was tall and none of them liked me because I was smarter than them. I can't explain how long it took me to come away from the mindset that I was garbage!
Yes and no. What you find beautiful might be subjective, yet there are general assumptions about what is beautiful. Symmetry, good hair, bone structure, height and even voice.
@@@ichx8 even everything you have mentioned is subjective. "Good hair" can mean Afro hair to Africans, and it isn't "good" to Caucasians. The same with large buttocks, thick lips, broad noses... it's subjective.
@@Martin Beberman that is subjective. "Clear skin" is subjective to tribes in the Amazon or parts of Asia or Africa where face tattoos, facial scars etc do not keep skin "clear". I think you are proving my point. Beauty is subjective.
@@Ad-Lo the irony is even broad noses and big lips are seen as a negative aspect in Africa. Women from the horn of Africa are seen as more attractive than the ones with "Bantu Features" like I have been told before. There's a certain commonality about what people find beautiful and not beautiful
Did the big study (USA and UK) also include the social class of the people? Poor people are more likely to be overweight than rich or middle class people (in the first world). Money can have a great impact to our appearance in general and of course to education and IQ. Social class for sure has the biggest impact on IQ by far!
Of course appearing to be more intelligent is as great an advantage as actually being more intelligent. Politicians, bankers, teachers, con persons. All depend on the appearance over reality. If not, they would use their intelligence to do something constructive, unless of course they are sincerely trying to help others, which in our current system, is less likely.
Where I live in Europe high schools are separated based on intelligence you really notice this where I live the few attractive people in these lower lever schools I noticed from my personal relationships with them that they often aren’t stupid most of the time more ignorant towards education cause if they’re background but tend to excel in something else like sports or art
I have always held that there is no beauty that can compete with intelligence or talent, or, it is beauty that is of low significance and intelligence or talent of high significance. If there is one component of a person that stands out, shouts to everyone, smart or not, it is beauty. If you deny that then you aren't too smart. Objectivity about anything to do with human beauty is elusive. A beautiful person will be perceived as being smart unless they are actively disproving this. Confidence is another quality associated with intelligence and beauty grooms confidence.
You might be smart but not academically inclined. How you comprehend things and understand the world are clues to real intellect and your husband has picked up on that. 'Funny' often goes together with intellect.
The general perception has always been that more beautiful you are, the less intelligent people assume you are. Nobody looks at the supermodels on the runway and think they have an IQ in triple digits. The same way if you mention a person who has an IQ over 170, people don’t imagine them having a face like Brad Pitt’s. Usually it’s a very very rare thing to find a person who happens to be very intelligent and also very (objectively) beautiful. That is why the stereotypical terms coined by many societies are along the lines of “stupid bimbo” or “that unattractive nerd who gets A’s in all the classes”. That doesn’t mean there isn’t any intelligent person who also happens to have a gorgeous face but like I said it is very RARE to find someone truly physically objectively gorgeous and who is extremely intelligent. Therefore I disagree with suggestion that beauty and intelligent correlates. Beautiful people do get more opportunities though , and a well-proportioned, pleasant looking face gives off a better first impression and warms up peoples initial views of you and disarms people , so beauty definitely helps open a lot of doors in people’s careers. But still despite this subconscious pull/draw of the beauty where the beautiful people already have an advantage over ugly people, we humans still come to equate intelligence with either average or below average attractiveness. For example, when somebody mentions the word “genius”, Einstein comes to most people’s minds and he was objectively speaking far from a good looking dude. I think in the high intelligence percentage group, we are likely to find mostly average looking people, and then some unattractive people, and only very very few gorgeous people.
You could have a beautiful person but most of the " beautiful" people have bad attitudes which trumps their so called beauty. IMHO. Their attitudes makes their beauty actually ugly. Hope that makes sense. I think personality matters more than looks. Back when I was younger ( 20's ) looks were everything and what I cared about but you live and learned some very valuable lessons.
@@yourenough3 either my comment has been deleted or I forgot to send the text. Anyway, no, I am referring to the term used to describe young ladies that immediately change their priorities once they stop being conventionally young. I have always wondered at how some people need a life to _learn_ something as plain as valuing personality over looks. I never needed it. And it's not that I am much of a genius, it's just an obvious thing to me. So I assume your blindness had little to do with your intelligence which I have no single doubt was and is high enough. It's probably something else. As for the grammar, English is not my first language so who am I to judge anyway?
What does make a person beautiful? A lot of it has to do with inherited features, but I think people tend to underestimate how much influence you have on your attractiveness. Things such as body fat percentage, muscle percentage, hair, skin and teeth condition, hairstyle, facial hairstyle, make up, clothes or even the way we talk, behave, use body language and facial expression. All these things have a huge impact on our attractiveness level and all usually are in our control. So my hypothesis is that intelligent people can seem more beautiful also because they are often more aware of their image, of how other people perceive them and they are more successful in shaping their image in such way that they are perceived as more attractive.
Comment 219: 2363 views. Wanted to watch this before getting onto the dark Triad video; however each of your videos have such very helpful info. I love the link between beauty and attractiveness. 🤪🤪🤪🤪😀🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪 Thanks Dr, Grande.😄
@@ChineseChicken1 Interesting looking, at the very least -- striking, especially as he got older. Cool hat, too. (Hard to find in online pics; I have it in several books -- yes, I am a nerd.) His profile at "atomic archive" has a pic of it.... 🎩
Alternative hypothesis: intelligence allows one to hone one's appearance. Beauty is not simply genetic inheritance, it is the style and grooming that one applies. Clothes, hairstyle, polished manners. Beauty is in fact modifiable. Intelligent people can look better. Less intelligent people may struggle to combine the tricks effectively. This means that beauty is not a dependent variable, it is an independent variable. It is output, not input. Obviously there are limits to this, but Dr Grande is indeed talking about modest moves within the demographic distribution.
some of the correlation between iq and attractiveness might be explained by the fact that some illnesses cause cognitive aswell as aesthetic problems. for example down syndrom. so maybe unintelligent people are likely to have a reason for their lack, that can also cause a lack of beauty.
On a question why would you like to be looking more intelligent there is important thing that you've missed Dr. Grande. HR's are often looking for this and that may help you getting a nice job. Especially if you just graduated or have less experience. In previous videos of yours, you tell that there is scientific evidence that elder women tend to recognize the intelligence of a male by just looking into a picture. And this is not a joke- I'm mainly contacted from recruiter women in their mid 40's :D Please take this as a positive criticism as I find you the best mentor for me. This is my first comment so everything else was well accepted.
It may be true that beautiful people have the capability to be more intelligent if they worked at it, developed it, and applied it productively (studying, reading, writing, researching, debating, inventing innovative new theories, solving complex problems), but I've found that beautiful people tend to rely on their looks to get by - they get plenty of attention and status for their looks, so they don't bother with cultivating their intelligence by studying, reading, writing, researching, debating, inventing innovative new theories, and solving complex problems. So the potential may be there in beautiful people, but if they have no motivation to develop it, then what good is it if it's not actually applied to being productive in the real world? I find that less attractive people are motivated to study hard, read a lot, and build their intellectual skills to get ahead because they can't just sit back and rely on their looks to get ahead socially. From my personal experience, I find beautiful people to be the least intellectual because they don't bother to work hard to develop it - because they don't feel like they need to in order to get everything they want.
Also prevalent in some natural, more hip communities (not sure how else to briefly describe what's meant by that). Places where the rule of conformity is to wear zero makeup. Non-conformists are seen as less evolved.
Before I watched the video, my layman's theory is that smart men had high status, tended to have better incomes, more successful, and therefore were able to attract a trophy wife who is mostly hot, but possibly somewhat intelligent as well. That continues to passes on through the generation. Their offspring is smarter and more attractive, and then they seek mates who are also smart and/or attractive.
Raw intelligence is almost genitic or physiological I think. Some people are essentially wired different. We all have the capacity to learn and expand our understanding of things though. I also think being attractive affords many opportunities to an individual.
Understanding this phenomenon, if it is real, is going to be very difficult. Human beings are complicated, and so are the variables that affect there biology and psychology. Thanks for the video Dr.Grande.
It’s because intelligent people tend to lean towards self improvement , physically, emotionally, mentally and financially, rather than self distraction, things like drugs alcoholism and other unhealthy lifestyles, We all know someone who used to be the most popular or desirable person back in school , but when you see them now they are not as popular and good looking as they use to be . I think a genuine good character can make someone more beautiful and successful. In a long term
@@Wackaz you sound insecure lol do you find yourself unattractive? Does it bother you that someone attractive could *gasp* have intellect too? Sheeeeiz - not the brightest bulb in the room - both in and out.
