Why Aren't Cade Cunningham And The Pistons Improving? 

Exactly this is it right here

Which makes the dedcision to not start Jaden even more bizarre.

Broke ass jump shots at almost every position. Even mechanics wise they don't work by far the worst team from 3

Spacing and no veterans. It’s essentially a college team out there.

First one is such a fact. Monty def only came here for the money and j doesn’t care

@@Cade_Szn well yeah he came for the money. He didn’t want to go to a losing situation and got the offer of a lifetime, so he came anyways.

@@Cade_Szn I can’t blame him for only coming here for the money but bro at least needs to *look* like he’s trying

Bagley has been fine. The Wiseman trade was a massive disappointment.

Bagley was a good trade. Wiseman was terrible.

bagley has been good chill

What was his excuse in college wheere he was inefficent as well? He doesn't create easy sgots due to his lack of athleticism and he doesn't handle contact well.

Discipline and accountability

The issue is bagley and wiseman have no value and killian has little to none to get off of those guy a pick would have to be attached.

Blame Troy Weaver. They just traded for Bagley and Wiseman like their value is really high.

They have Vets. They need actual vets that can play and contribute at a high level. Those players you suggest ain’t getting that back.

Dwight Howard is available

​@@4olufade😂😂

I agree just wish he would play the players that can actually shoot. Killian should be the last guard on the depth chart. Marcus should get almost 20 minutes every game. I think him and Cade on the court makes it hard for the defense. Haven’t seen that interaction of a lineup very often. It’s a joke to be honest. The games are really hard to watch. Bojan is a great scorer and the starting lineup clearly misses him. I would say out of the 17 wins last year Bojan was single handily the reason for at the very least 10 of those games. Cade is legit just wish he had shooting around him so he can show it. Booker took a couple years to get it right too look at him now.

Detroit def ain't getting Booker lol he's king of Arizona. If Book wanted Monty to stay, he would've.

@@maxwellli4103 And he'd be king of detroit if he came here

Mac Mclung can score at will

Perhaps they can trade for Buddy Hield and Alex Caruso.

You nailed it bro

cade trash cade a bust real talk

I don't see any Cade hate, if you actually read, it's Cade love. Sure there will be a few who don't like Cade but that the general concensus is Detroit loves Cade and will defend him. The rest outside of Cade though is not getting love.

He’s been by far the best shooter on the team, the second best defender and an above average offensive rebounder. Hes getting paid like 12 mill a year starting next year. Thats an absolute steal for someone who can actually space the floor, get boards, play average to good defense and actually works hard.

@@Jrseydevil 16 mill a year for a guy who offers you nothing on offense other than the ability to make a wide open 3 (and for a bad team, no less) is NOT a “steal”. It’s not a bad deal, per se, given the inflation of NBA contracts these days. But for 12 points and 7 rebounds in 30+ min a night, it’s hard to make the argument that his contract is a positive. His ceiling in this league is a backup small ball 5. He’s in year 4 and his only improvement is his 3P%, and it’s still on a relatively low volume. He still has no post game, can’t create his own shot/offense, cannot set a screen effectively (which is why in spite of his solid 3P% the Pistons still never use him in the pick and roll), and he sorely lacks the size and athleticism to be a rim runner or a lob thread like Duren. Not to mention his improvements as a shooter still has a minimal effect on the Pistons’ offense because he’s incapable of putting the ball on the floor when defenses close out on him. He just shovels it off to his nearest teammate which immediately stagnates the offense and kills whatever semblance of competent spacing his shooting would theoretically create. And his defense isn’t good. It’s average. He doesn’t have the lateral quickness to consistently keep up with opposing wings or PFs and he lacks the size and leaping ability to consistently disrupt shots around the basket. He’s averaging 1 “stock” (steals + blocks) per game and ranks 7th on the Pistons in defensive rating. Now I’m not saying he’s a bad player by any means. If utilized properly Stew would be a solid weapon. Coming off the bench he could get physical with opposing reserves, stretch the floor a bit, and spark the unit with his hustle and “antics” (for lack of a better term). That’s a role he’d likely hold for any team in the league. But this comes back to my point about why the Pistons remain in NBA purgatory. They look at Stew’s hustle and ignore his actual skill set (or lack there of) and fail to realize that while his floor remains reasonably high, his ceiling is conversely quite low. There’s not a single other team in the league that Stew would start for and that includes other rebuilding franchises.

I can’t lie about this this is true

@@LogicOverEmotion you’re an advanced stat nerd so literally everything you said after low volume is irrelevant. You’re not an athlete. Math has never, will never win a physical competition. Go away you virgin nerd

​@@Jrseydevilactually he is still a below average starter. Teams leave him open still so he is free to shoot with no gravity. If he was really a shooter or looked at as a threat he would be covered.. Also if he is guarded he cant create his own shot.Stew also can't guard Stretch bigs or small ball 4s. In a word where Stew is the second leading scorer the team will go 2-20. Ausar is out reb him ever since he has been starting. Stew also isn't an average defender. In no year was he an great defender. He doesn't even average a block and a steal per game as a big. So stop capping for defense. What offense does Stew have?? Teams don't respect his shot at all. So our team is playing 3 on 5. Dude averages 12 ppg and is our teams second leading scorer. And you here acting like he is amazing. I hate this fanbase man.

we're stuck with him. at least, he isn't SVG

How many banners do you all have?? The pistons actually have history in the nba before this low point. The hornets not so much. The bobcats did more then yall

Don't look at either OKC or Orlando now or you guys gonna be depressed.

The Hornets and Pistons will be what The Kings and Twolves were in the last decade before 22-23 Both will have a hard decade

@@jonathanfrimerman8855 Who is better though - Cade or Lamelo?

@@bigradwolf5001Lmao it’s not close Lemelo all day

"there" implies they're .500 or a little under .500. They literally can't win a game because no one can make shots.

They didn't win

It’s gonna be a while since Morris isn’t coming back until late January lol. By then it may be too late to rectify any damages this season will have on the players and fanbase…

Tell me about it. I swear everytime I see Sochan it makes me hate Pop so much. I wish the Spurs had a real owner like a Jerry Jones that would fire his ass

who Dennis is

One 23 point L later lmfao

Pistons are supposed to be a defensive oriented team

The Pistons need a new owner.

they lack 3pt shooters.

Then who is? Jalen Green? He's also inefficient. Mobley? Barnes? Both are supporting cast players (neither could be centerpieces like Cade and Jalen could be). Sengun, possibly. Rockets probably got the true top pick in their batch in Sengun. And as a bonus, they got a not-so-shabby Jalen Green as well who would be a #7 pick if I'd be re-drafting.

Will get screwed up by getting the 5th overall instead