Why Dan Inosanto is Right

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A few years ago we did a video that angered a good many people. Well, we're back at it except this time we're probably going to irritate the opposite side as we detail an area in which Dan Inosanto has been spot-on: weapons. You see, most Original JKD folks out there, us included, consider ourselves self-defenders...not sport fighters and all that. But a self-defender who doesn't train with and know how to use weapons, especially blades, isn't hitting on all cylinders. In fact, in some ways he hasn't even gotten the proverbial car out of the driveway.
Well, in this video we detail all that and more. We give credit where it's undeniably due. Sifu Dan Inosanto has always been at the forefront of weapons' training and for that, despite our other disagreements with him and the JKD Concepts approach overall, he deserves considerable credit. This is especially true since many Original JKD schools literally never touch a weapon. Oh, and just in case you think we've lost our minds over here, the second half of the video details how the Concepts movement, rooted in the philosophy of relativism, is yet wrong in theory but - as in this case - often right in practice. All of us have much to learn. Maybe even me.
But seriously, in summary, we're all in this together - training and trying to get better. A robust debate on the ideas should be had...and certainly should be respectful and logical. Hopefully this video achieves that. Thanks for watching.
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@robertvondarth1730 8 месяцев назад

Late stage JKD is based on western fencing. So the weapons system I practice is the sword. I study HEMA to improve my JKD. And, as you say - there’s no JKD without the Jeet. The Jeet is the stop thrust in western fencing

@handsforwarrodneymorgan2616 8 месяцев назад

Great video. One thing I have learned,in my being involved with the Vunak PFS, training with weapons builds quicker reflexes. No doubt about it. I personally believe there are many pieces to the modern JKD puzzle. Without the founder here with us to speak on JKD in this time,in fact, we are all guessing. This being said,we know for a fact there are "core" elements to JKD ie, intercepting,straight lead,trapping,boxing . Without those,it's not JKD.

@vedder10 6 месяцев назад

I personally think the last part of your statement contradicts Bruce Lee's evolutionary teaching. Within his statements and writings he talks about not getting hung up on a name. Who cares whether you're sticking to the core of JKD. What matters is are you training for effectiveness and reality. So many people are stuck in his 70's concepts and have not evolved. Drop the term JKD and just focus on building a personally effective approach that addresses today's violence.

@HatianHurricane 7 месяцев назад

When I first started training in JKD Concepts back in '92 in Brooklyn at Universal Defense Systems, we trained with the knife and doce pares or the two sticks.

@warriorstkdify 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for giving a balanced assessment, you content has improved my WC & JKD

@DarinWaugh2x 8 месяцев назад

Great video Jason, many points to ponder and study! Thanks!

@JKDandWingChun 7 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@axelstone3131 8 месяцев назад

From what I underhand, when Bruce was given a kali stick, bo staff or a bladed weapon, he just applied JKD principles and could effectively use a weapon better than even Inosanto at that point. That’s what Dan said about when he showed Bruce the nunchucks I think. It was one of the weapons anyway.

@jeffwelsh9264 7 месяцев назад

Sifu Jason, enjoyed the video and the information / insights that you provided. Just had a question regarding the idea of researching into multiple arts to then refine and reduce. Other than wing Chun, do you know if the late Sifu Ted Wong studied additionally throughout his life after learning JKD from Sigung Bruce or did he continue to refine what he had learned ?

@ramondiaz2851 8 месяцев назад

Like the blade with the finger ring ,keeps it from slipping your hand!!

@KungFu_Psychotherapist 8 месяцев назад

🤘 I love your videos

@blockmasterscott 8 месяцев назад

"ok my mother in law". Ok, that made me laugh out loud! 🤣🤣🤣

@Justahuman20 Месяц назад

Can you make a video on takedown/ throws

@GK-bu5px Месяц назад

Guro Dan Inosanto is absolutely amazing.

@cesarjkd8379 8 месяцев назад

Well Sifu Jason, this can only be settled !!THE ANCIENT WAY!!!!😂😂😂

@JKDandWingChun 8 месяцев назад

😂

@Therecov74 Месяц назад

Is Filipino martial arts simple direct effective? Also if you cant obtain a gun legally pepper spray and bear spray is legal and has gotten much cheaper. BTW I think I remember you had video about you asking Ted Wong about knives and he said something about using the JKD footwork with the knife since its fencing footwork.

@hipotonomous 8 месяцев назад

Well this turned out more philosophical than expected. Love it! "Concepts" or "Originals" doesn't matter. Honestly, I don't get the whole feud. Because in the end, what Bruce talked about was nothing unique, he was just really good at it. It's what I call, "being a martial artist". A fighter will learn a style, apply it and win. A martial artist will learn from multiple sources, and develop a style of their own. A great martial artist will do that, and use their style as a way of training the next generation. That's it. If you're learning, you're good.

@zaneivy 4 месяца назад

...some countries make it very difficult to train with weapons (and definately difficult to carry any around). Guess Americans should be thankful they still have as much wiggle room as they still, in the main, have.

@JKDandWingChun 4 месяца назад

Good point…you’re quite right there. Those who don’t trust others with freedom will always work to restrict access to self-defense tools. Thanks for the input.

@Fahim_Lalani 8 месяцев назад

❤thx

@ruiseartalcorn 8 месяцев назад

Good points :)

@JKDandWingChun 7 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@irkenempire 8 месяцев назад

Identity politics in martial arts has always haunted me. Karate in the early 90s had a bunch of flag waving...who had legit lineage, who was doing "real karate" and other were doing it for sport. I appreciate hearing your thoughts on these matters. Maybe one day, I get the stones to start a channel of my own?

@stevep4358 8 месяцев назад

Bruce Lee practiced and absorbed western fencing into JKD Im sure he used it in his mind with or without a weapon in his hand.

@imeaniguess.6963 7 месяцев назад

This guy looks like the Gordon Ramsey of the fight game.

@johncarroll772 7 месяцев назад

He looks more like Gordon Ramsey than the real Gordon Ramsey.

@gregorylatta8159 7 месяцев назад

Empty hands and weapons should all be trained.

@koosfockens1707 7 месяцев назад

I agree indeed that weapons training is beneficial to general skills , learning to defend against it etc. but it is not part of Jeet Kune Do, which is an art based on unarmed combat. So yes, it's good training, but the issue is that it is passed off as JKD, which is not correct. Beneficial , yes, but not JKD.

@CBHDK59 8 месяцев назад

if look straight ahead and see a hanging punching big, to me, that's jkd, an art with its own muscle memory. nothing more.

@JayLoc0042 8 месяцев назад

What do you mean by this?

@CBHDK59 8 месяцев назад

@@JayLoc0042 think of boxing, savate, Thai boxing, these arts are of basics and muscle memory, if add more techniques to it, you remove something away from it for something else, that removel also can remove its muscle memory. in order to deeped muscle memory, sparring and training equipments such as punching the heavy bags is the way and the spirit of these arts, and no matter how many techniques we add into these art, they are always going to end up with their own stuck up sideway fighting styles. please don't tell me jkd is not a style, heard it all. remember that in the beginning jkd was a style, a style with a blueprint to follow. and since it has been taught for 55 years, the damage is done, is a sideway stuck up style.

@Re-Destro 7 месяцев назад

Why not just still move like a fencer, like Ted Wong would but instead with a stick in your hand, and going straight instead of all those kali patterns that come from the concept guys? You can still use a stick but keep it simple and direct.

@everettwilliamson6430 7 месяцев назад

P r o m o S M

@filliwinks 8 месяцев назад

There is no such thing as original JKD. There is Jun Fan Gung Fu and JKD.

@robertvondarth1730 8 месяцев назад

There’s Inosanto JKD

@dagaffer2269 8 месяцев назад

@@robertvondarth1730Dan Inosanto is one of the biggest fraudsters in martial arts. His "as many arts as possible" ( his words). Was designed to keep students coming in paying him money. Scammer.

@filliwinks 8 месяцев назад

There is Bruce Lee and Dan Inosanto JKD@@robertvondarth1730

@jacobharris954 7 месяцев назад

Jun fan is Bruce Lee understanding and interpretation of wing chun and other arts. Jkd is mma. The former is foundation and the latter is pre or post graduates education

@filliwinks 7 месяцев назад

Jun Fan Gung Fu is literally Bruce Lee's hard work. He wasn't qualified to teach Wing Chun as he hadn't studied the whole system. I would agree with the rest of your statement, apart from the MMA bit. There is much more intelligence behind JKD in my opinion.@@jacobharris954

@walterevans2118 8 месяцев назад

Well here in the UK knives and guns are illegal……I would imagine that in weapons one would apply economics as surely as you would to open hand ….What would be interesting would be to see whether reps and reflex training works across disciplines like training open hand reps would develop it for weaponry and vice versa. The issue of absolutisms vs relativism, well, the philosopher Karl Popper once claimed than the most foolish criticism of any philosophical idea is to claim it is self refuting, whether it is relativism, post modernism, falsifiability, verification or anything else because if one invalidates an argument by its own ideas one first has to commit oneself to the concept being valid before self refutation can be exacted upon it. One also has to differentiate between the epistemology of a philosophical idea and practical applications of it…I mean it’s possibly a false dichotomy to say we are all absolutists or all relativists when we could believe in the epistemology of one while doubting the applications of the other. Being too fixed and absolute can also run into conflicts and problems just as believing there is no truth with a capital T can also lead to absolute calamities (like believing mud pies are as valid a Ritz cuisine) And applying relativism to MORALITY is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER in practical terms because it could lead humans into an abyss of total moral nihilism. Regardless of the limits and circularities of logic and mathematics I would also sign up to the Platonic idea and beauty being truth and truth beauty on purist ARTISTIC grounds ONTOLOGICALLY (not solipsism) ….and now I’m off to feed the CATS…..

@JKDandWingChun 8 месяцев назад

Of course, Popper dashed himself to pieces on the law of contradiction (the intercepting straight lead of philosophy) in that when he asserted something is foolish he claimed an absolute standard. No way around that one, Karl. We're all stuck with it. As for me, I don't have a cat so I'll see if I can go find my neighbor's to play with...he's often in my yard lounging in the sun and hunting birds. LOL. Thanks for watching.

@walterevans2118 8 месяцев назад

@@JKDandWingChun I think Popper was just exploring the self reference paradoxes rather than dashing himself to pieces on the rocks with ‘laws of contradictions’ I don’t think it’s as simple as you are making it….Actually I have lots of cats , some are ‘refugee’ cats from relatives, others are homeless ones off my housing estate who don’t get enough food so I go up and feed them….The trouble is , they follow me back home , they cross over into each other’s territory and then the bloody CAT JKD starts up with me trying to divert them to the bemusement of passers by…The other thing they do is nibble Guitar cases and pee on furniture upholstery…If I’m giving one a bit of ham he does a Bruce Lee leap and literally tries to use his paw to knock it out of my hand..Daft cat.

@JusUltimate 8 месяцев назад

I fell for the clickbait.😂

@darrylcarman2272 8 месяцев назад

The reason you made this video is because you got backlash from Dan's fans! Cleaning it up helps keep the channel relevant. Stand up dude!

@JKDandWingChun 8 месяцев назад

or it could be that we believe the truth (in this case, weapons' training) is important. And on that note we suggest that, in the future, martial arts students study not just weapons but also basic logic too. Doing that would help us avoid knee-jerk ad hominem arguments. Oh, and as an educational aid here's the basic operating definition of an ad hominem: "...attacking an opponent's character or HIS MOTIVES for believing something instead of disproving his argument." Thanks for watching and hopefully in the future you'll apply sound reasoning to your opinions before stating them. If you'd like more resources in your study we suggest "Logical Fallacies" by Connor Boyack. That's an easy place to start.

@RegisWilkins 5 месяцев назад

Funny I know who Dan is, never heard of you. Who are you again?

@LouKiss 2 месяца назад

Clout chasing. Dan is still alive AND accessible. These are such moot comments because the rest of us have evolved. I trained weapons with Jerry Poteet using JKD principles this whole concept vs core is such a dead argument.