Wing Chun Fighters Don't Understand The Centerline [Avoid This Mistake!] 

This channel definitely should have more subscribers rather than other channels that don't teach wing chun the way it's supposed to be taught

Comment from Tony Massengill: one of my greatest pleasures in life is watching my student Jason Korol teach the Wing Chun I have passed to him! I know .... I know, that doesn’t say much for the quality of my sex life, but in my defense, I’m an old man with a lot of injuries .... but I digress! Back to the subject of the post! The greatest pleasure a teacher can have is to see a student take the baton you passed to him and see him advance it to the next generation! I have been extremely blessed to have Jason as my student, friend and Christian Brother!

Agreed. You should have many more subscribers. You are an incredible, entertaining and encouraging Sifu. I could watch all day long.

Love the concept of movement.Thanks for sharing.Sifu Jason.

Thanks! Your insights into Wing Chun applications are great! Keep the good work.

I like the 4 quadrants from Fencing.... The centreline is important - Your point about center of mass is brilliant Sifu!

Helpful as always. Your production style changed a little bit and it's interesting (I might've commented about this detail before but I can't remember), I really like seeing those glimpses of your classes, it's possible to see that what you say here in YT is a really abbreviated version of what you teach in your live classes. This approach to the centerline and considering the notion that your opponent won't just stand there and let you do whatever is a really important lesson to teach everyone. Looking forward to the next videos.

Good discussion! Really like your comments on footwork.

This is great! Thank you for the wisdom :)

Nice, very useful teaching sifu. Thank you!

Great video! Another misconception I've seen commonly in Wing Chun guys is that they don't realize that you do NOT have to occupy the centerline to defend the centerline!

Thanks for the video, as always realistic and educational.

Very good and true explanation Thank you so much to share it !

Good video, most people dont really understand this. Even the explanation of the trap whilst going backward with spring energy is very valuable. I have been doing this for so long in my sparring and it lands the cleanest hits since your opponent probably doesnt expect it. Like sure stepping of the centreline at an angle isnt what we want to do since it is not the most direct route to our targets. Also we want to off balance or turn out opponent and hit. But we are not always in trapping range, often we need to bridge and just going forward especially with chain punches makes it very easy to counter. In that case we want to step off or in at an angle. I always tell people staying in front of them means they have 2 weapons, staying at their side like at an angle they momentarally can only use one hand and at their back they momentarally have no hands to defend.

Great video, I especially like how you emphasize the footwork, there's not alot of it represented in most WC content on youtube.

Another great video, thanks. More footwork and position videos please.

Thanks a lot for tour invested time to improve this great fighting method and share it with us!!!

Great explanation

As always an excellent video clearly explaining the practical application of the centerline maxim. 👍👍👍

I love the quality of students at this academy.

The Center Line theory taught professionally in this video more Wing Chun schools need to take notice of this video

Once again, brother, you are a ‘Martial Genius’... 😁🤙😎

At first I thought it was Gordon Ramsey teaching Wing Chun, until I realized there wasn’t any swearing. Thank you Sifu Jason for the video! Keep up the good work.

People struggle with the concept of self defense vs consensual violence. Wing Chun works best when your attacker doesn’t know he’s in a fight and he thinks he’s going to roll over you.

I have been sceptical of wing chun, or at least this ''snobbishness'' which youve mentioned, its really great to hear and see a similar fighting model( if not exactly the same) as boxing and other forms of combat. I like the distinction you made about Traps. It seems that wing chun, boxing and any other martial art is really the same set of mathematical rules given different names.

Rock-solid generalizable martial knowledge.

Agree, My biggest problem in wing chun is when you do the drills the pause at the end of a drill to me is a problem. Example: Someone punches and other person paks/punch...but then they pause and pose. Working drills to learn technique is great. But it also trains something bad into your reaction. It causes you to pause after an initial punch. Instead of learning to be fluid and continuing. But I understand its just a drill. But like look at people in background training. Thats what I mean. They do their drill and then freeze into their final position. That causes hesitation. Maybe instead have them do the drill but following thru with whatever comes to them in the position the end up in. But have the first movement the actual drill but make sure they can save themselves if that punch falls flat.

Well said! I have always felt the most important concepts in functional martial arts for the idea of "centerline" were positioning yourself so that the majority of your weapons were able to be trained on your opponent and his were not (i.e. getting "off line ") and secondly to attack and control your opponent's skeletal structure (his center line) so he has no stability and is easily moved or taken down and does not have the foundation to launch an effective attack.

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T try hank you for this wonderful lesson

Some great pieces of information here. Footwork, position, angles of incoming punches, centre line for targets, central of mass for driving. Love the return to SLT stance “you don’t fight in the stance, you fight in the stance” comment. I’ve had some traditional instructors tell me to always spar from a SLT stance...I’m like where’s the footwork and mobility...

Good as ever or more!Sifu Jason is using a secret W.C.weapon:the Occam's razor

Good footwork

don't get to say this often, i am impressed

I understand it - it's not that difficult. I have though, been trained in Guangzhou, China. My sifu is very humble and very straightforward. Great video.

Great Video, great instructor... Just read your book "wing chun for the modern warrior" a third time. Really appreciate your explanations.

If I am not mistaken, the central line promotes the best reflex especially when the elbows are in front of the body. For sure, the vital mass of organs all line up around the centre so you need the best defense for urgency result.

interesting... I can see the similarity of this with ashihara karate in using "tai sabaki" movement in a similar way...

Flow like water-all foot work

One should use offense to supply a + or - force to offset the opponent! Then come back with necessary techniques to pray and hurt once the body's centerline is broken and is falling down with just past the positive. Hit hard at the right time!

If there are schools that 'worship' a particular component above all the others then simply run away! because it's only doing you a disservice to your training. Imagine a soldier only learning target practice and the teacher claiming once you get bullseyes, you'll always win the battle 🤣👌 Gong Lik is the term used for the idea of mastering something comprehensively. So the centreline principle is just one puzzle piece within the bigger picture.

Could you guve us a chain punch speed training? Cause my chain punch speed sucks

I was taught the centre line was only half the equation with the central line , and keeping him in your power box and him out of yours ( not fighting straight on be angled off) I hardly ever hear anyone talk about that. Even then it's one principle it's not the system

Also wing chun people (and I think every martial artist, mma, boxer, w/e should learn WC) need to lengthen their punches to boxing length (like jkd does). I throw my punches straight down centerline but by turning my torso/hips/shoulders on the centerline to generate power, like the 1inch punch in wing chun. I see too many WC peeps train to punch with their legs and body but in a fight they just throw arm punches "windmill punches" people call them. It's really because training for combat was outlawed in the Qing Dynasty of China until 1911. Wing Chun punches used to look a lot more like GOOD boxing punches but after hundreds of years without sparring, this is what we're left with

It’s center mass... control the center mass not centerline. pressure and control the center mass!

What if your opponent is a boxer and you shift to the inside of his attack, wouldn't you be risking at least a hook? - so,, what about shifting to the outside and attacking at the same time - wouldn't that put your opponent out of balance while at the same time being attacked and having no reach to you - just some thoughts

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If the upper body moves, the lower body stays. If the lower body moves, the upper body stays. There must be a base from which to deliver power, and if both are moving, the only move is evasion based on the hinge door.

I see a lot of videos like this, and unfortunately, no matter how sound the conceptual thinking, I always see things fall down in the same area- you have wing chun people learning how to use wing chun against wing chun attacks. No one is going to attack you like a wing chun person, not even wing chun people when they actually try and fight, just check any clips of wing chun actually people sparring- those movements go out the window because they are not practical in their essence. Getting off the centreline when hooks are coming at your head is a whole different story. And no one just drops their arms below their chest for you to "attack the centre line." Plus, attacking the vital organs on the centreline just doesn't make sense, because your not going to stop someone's heart, lets say. Now don't get me wrong, I've trained Wing Chun for over 10 years and I love it as a system of body mechanics, and for its principles of understanding how to use your structure, but those movements of wing chun vs wing chun do not train you to deal with how people actually fight, which is not like wing chun people touching hands to learn a technique like Bruce Lee vs the big dude in the enter the Dragon. And its a big reality in Wing Chun that barely ever gets addressed.

Wing Chun techniques are excellent for close quarter combat in tight spaces. Not so effective when the opponent has room to move or high level grappling occurs. That's why you see so many masters getting beat by MMA fighters. I believe Bruce Lee understand this early on and added the missing pieces.

:-) Footwork!

Roll with the punches

They dont understand to keep their head off centerline or that hooks are thrown down the centerline from other angles and can also be used with Wing Chun concepts

trapping is the practical form of chi-sao

Ok, let's clarify the center line and why you get hit when you ONLY use the centerline, as opposed to using the CENTERLINE and CENTRAL LINE (the line in from the shoulder to the center at a 45 degree angle), as it is done in Traditional wing chun. The centerline only covers ONE SIDE of the body, since you do not rotate towards the attack, or use an angled step to the outside of the attacking arm. This happens because modified wing chun guys use LINEAR movement, straight in, which, as in ALL BOXING DERIVATES, leaves you vulnerable to the hook. This is because, without the rotation, the hook goes beyond your peripheral (side) vision, making it invisible until it is too late to stop!! Rotation towards the attack allows you to not only SEE the attack directly, but also pulls you away from the attack as well! Also, by rotating in towards the attack, you use the central line to attack directly down the center, which protects that side as well. This is why modified wc guys fail against boxers. They have the hook, and catch them with it when they are trying to foolishly use chain punches against them. Chain punching doesn't work here because the boxer or anyone experienced can just side step your attack to the blindside (the side of your advanced arm that is already extended), throw the hook, and the fight is over! CHAIN PUNCHING ONLY WORKS AFTER INITIAL CONTACT IS MADE, AND THE TYPE AND DIRECTION OF THE ATTACK ESTABLISHED, THEN YOU DETERMINE THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED, BE IT BY PUSHING THE ARM PAST CENTER, OR MAKING AND MAINTAINING CONTACT WITH THE ARM, FOLLOWING IN THE CENTER OF MASS (AS PER WONG SHUN LEUNG), TRAPPING THE ARM AND LEG, AND FINISHING THE FIGHT QUICKLY!

If Bruce Lee was around today i think he would say to add what works and dont be confined. Be The Water

One of my first jkd coaches.. advice n what not.. solid dude

That gentleman assisting at 5:05 does not look like he's in his twentys anymore but moves so fluidly. This is why a martial art is not "bullshido" just because it's not used in a cage fight. As long as people are having fun, staying healthy, getting fulfillment and gaining skills. Doesn't matter if you do karate, judo, BJJ, wing chun, muay Thai, aikido, kendo or anything else. As long as you find it rewarding, just get out there and do it.

There are several lines not just the centre line

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I see. So it's like in STAR WARS then? "It's a trap!!!" I get it! You trap them into trapping them! Very clever!

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Yeah but , good WC is not about chasing punches, it is about attacking the attack, position, taking balance, disabling.

Your chin is so open brother. Hooks uppercut and combos. No head movement? Do you have any footage of you sparring any real boxers. I know a gentleman that is 60 years old he helps coach at the gym he has awesome footwork speed, power and head movement. As nice as i can be he would light you up with that chin up like that.. I just am afraid you are going to get people hurt. Tuck that chin, protect the chin with your shoulder when you through a punch. Head movement. Be safe.

Wing Chun requires wisdom, logic, proportion and adjustment to deal with.

Perhaps you have unscrupulous haters of your channel or something but I am subscribed to you but I don't get notifications when you release new material.

Wait - what is the take away from this video ! ? Anyone

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If he starts pushing into me.. I will resist? I will step back?

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No one will belive you unless you make a real fight and prove what you say👌🏻

SHOULDER LINE OR MARCO

Learn boxing head movement and pivots and add your wing chun to that

Only I know the real wing chun

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Prove it.

There's no such thing as when you take yourself off of the centerline you're not going to get hit

But you really believe that WT can be effective for self defense in real situations? It is so complex.

I think you would enjoy Xingyi . No nonsense Kung Fu more powerful than wing Chun

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In defense of Wing Chun after not being allowed to spar or train for combat, for hundreds of years...ANY martial art would lose effectiveness. WC needs to evolve backwards before the Qing dynasty outlawed martial arts and they need to look at jkd/mma to round out their fighting

Hmmm… Wing Chun guys must get beat up a lot.

You dis wing chun in the title, bye.

Ty for this Btw 👇 God LOVES YOU so MUCH that He sent His only son to die In YOUR PLACE so you won't have to die under Gods judgement but live forever IF you fully trust in Jesus. Repent from thinking wickedness!!!

Thank you so much Sifu Jason for keeping wing chun alive and efficient to day. Please post more videos. And hopefully all sections on the mook jong 🤞🏼