It was ok for Hetfield to add vocals with Danzig and COC and Kirk to do stuff with the orb but they had an issue with Jason doing anything else but Metallica. You can completely understand his issues with it all
Not quite. Even Jason was doing other stuff on the side too I believe. The difference here though, is that Jason was putting together a band that he would concentrate on, doing promotion and all kinds of stuff. That’s different than doing guest appearances and such. Not that it wasn’t wrong for James to boycott it, But what they were doing wasn’t hypocritical in the slightest.
@@simplebutnotsolongname6642 it could be said that there's no reason besides ego tripping and insecurity for James to care even if Jason wanted to join another band and tour or record or whatever as long as it didn't affect his obligations to Metallica. . It's fucking Metallica. Nothing Jason did on the side was going to have any real effect on a band as established as they were. It's not like they were still trying to make it or needed his creative input. It's doubtful that they even encouraged any creative input from him.
Jason Newsted is the Batman of Metallica. Always took shit, didn’t say anything because he understood going out there and just playing was all that mattered. Did it for the fans. Did it for the music.
Jason should write a tell all book. I'm not a big fan of tell all books. But in this case it would be justified. James and crew viciously hazed and bullied Jason for 15 years. That is ugly AF for anyone to do that to somebody. Just plain mean and vicious. I always thought James had this negative energy about him that was repulsive. If he was willing to do that to Jason, who else did he do that to? What a POS James is. Jason should've punched James in the face on his way out like Dave Mustaine did. ..
He did it so he could establish himself and jump ship. Nothing wrong with that, btw. It's okay to work through a bad job until you can move on. Would've been hilarious if he joined up with Megadeth after, though
when i realized so long ago that Hetfield and Ulrich are such Jerks, i startet do dislike the Band. Not the Old songs, but still...Hetfield and Ulrich. I am not a fan anymore since perhaps load/reload, and today i think Mustaine is a better musican and guy. I feel sorry for Jason and i really dislike Het&Ulr for been such Jerks (without the ability for writing any good song for more than 20 years)
@@backroom12 Almost exactly 20 years ago 2003... And I feel the same... Almost as if Rob joined just yesterday and is still in the process of joining the band.
I’d say he feels new despite being the longest serving bass player because the music they’ve created while he has been in the band has been some of the least memorable Metallica music. There are a few good songs…but consider the songs they play live - it’s almost all songs from when Cliff and Jason were in the band.
@@chadcaughmann7898 Exactly. He is incredibly talented, but somehow the era he joined hasn't produced anything as epic or memorable that everyone knows is his contribution.
Jason wasn't a band member, he was just an employee. A band member will have his music being used in the band more often and not only for 3 compositions that were hardly play live.
Hardly played live? Jason's best contribution, IMO, Blackened, was played heaps. One of Metallica's best if you ask me, and certainly one of the standouts of ajfa
James mentioned recently looking back that him and Lars were actually furious that he left willingly. They thought like "you don't get to leave, you either die or we fire you" it clearly was a suffocating toxic environment, which is a shame because they're one of my favorite bands.
I dont know why this comment isn't as big as all the comments thats hating on james. People choose when and what to be angry at and just cry all day. Boohoo they put Jason through alot it happens time goes on and they all took accountability and conceded.
Jason breathed metal it was his entire life while the others were carrying their gfs handbag with their balls in it. Cliff would probably have loved Jason
I blamed him for their sound when he came on. But...with them turning his bass so low, truth is that James and Lar put out the sell-out. Watching Jaon's energy revives them a little while James growls nursery rhymes, but only a little.
Friends of mine got backstage passes at a show at DTE outside Detroit, early 2000s. The only member to actually be there to meet the folks that won the passes (they were attached to random merch) was Jason. The other three could not be bothered. I grew up on this music, it inspired me for years. But seeing the totality of what James and Lars have become, plus the sub par quality of all the music from St. Anger forward really let's me know they should have hung those boots up long ago. Hetfield's a bitch.
James' behavior during that Playboy interview was absolutely pathetic. Jason definitely made his impact on the band, though, despite the drama. Let's not forget that!
Everybody I know is on Jasons side on this. He was the most warm hearted, mature, music loving and loyal man in the band. The others were spoilt assholes behaving like 19 year olds at that time, sorry to say.Jason was having a lot of impact on this band , especially on live shows, he was so dedicated when the others were pretty self absorbed. I am particularly dissapointed in James for not letting Jason do side projects and release his own stuff, James is probably a controi freak. This whole talk about "everyone involved in Metallica is family" is a pretty good sign for toxic behaviour of some protagonists here..Your work isnt your family, family is family Mr. Hetfield, so behave like a grown up...
All those millions spent on that team psychologist hack and neither James or Lars had the basic decency of apologizing to Jason and offer him his job back. In the words of The Dude "buncha assholes" (the big Lebowski)
@@Igor.J.Delgado But they actually did kinda try to. After James came back from rehab, there are clips of them from the SKOM doc. where They said Tried to reach out to Jason multiple times (James having messaged him a bunch for one) in reaction to Jason avoiding contact with them, and indirectly complain about them. At the very least, they wanted to talk and make amends, but Jason had flaked on them multiple times, as implied in those clips. So Jason was kinda being an ass during that period. James and Lars probably did patch things up With Jason, just not Publicly. At least we see them together at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and 30th anniversary show. Even recently, they had do the Unboxing of the Black Album Box set; so we can assume they are on good terms. Just because they didn't do it publicly doesn't mean they never did at all, But we're not privy to what's going on in their private life. It's not something to make news out of, not even Jason goes around flaunting it.
@@tiborosz1825 they said to Newsted: "We will sing with Miley Cyrus (kind of Madonna of the 80") in 2021!" so Newsted decided he wants to step out of Metallica 20 years in advance just to be sure he will not be involve in such misery!
Jason needed a creative outlet when they were off tour and when he wanted to pursue his Echobrain project, Hetfield told him he couldn't, I liked Jason w/them & he was so great live w/them🤘🏻
I mean if James felt that way then why does he have to take time off for family? Music side projects are just as important for Newsted as family is for the rest of the band. Or do they expect Newsted to take up their slack while they're with family because he isn't married? Regardless it sounds very hypocritical.
He was basically Metallica's punching bag though I do believe Newstead was able to use that anger to put more into his live performance until he couldn't take it anymore
The only had room in their hearts for Burton, they made it impossible for Jason to fill his role in the band, and Rob was rewarded for all the shit they pulled on Jason. Rob came in at a time when the rest of the band was really looking in the shitty people they were, he was a fallen angel that saved their asses, they wouldn't and couldn't treat Rob like Jason, or anyone else anymore, for that matter.
Sorry, but jason doing side projects would have taken away much less from metallica than the 3 other guys putting metallica 2nd in their lives. Even if jason would've made side projects, the main focus would've been metallica. But "You can't do side projects,it will take strenght away from metallica. Anyway, in the meant time, we'll put our energy in our famillies and not give metallica the energy we're blaming you for WANTING to put elsewhere, just like we're about to do" I kinda agree with everybandmates doing metallica only, Side projects can make the fans fear for the main band's future, But they ended up doing the exact thing that they were scared jason was gonna do. Spending time on a side project would've taken much less away from metallica than being a full time father,with metallica as a side project. "We don't want you to do side projects, But metallica is now OUR side project" Yes, familly comes firsts, but they should've seen that their new job of being a father takes strenght away from metallica much more than a side project, jason's main focus would've still been metallica, just as metallica became a side project for everybody else.
They're hypocrites. They took the time off to create families, he had none. Music is his family. He wanted time off to that and James said no. Jason gave his all period. No side project would have took away from Metallica because Jason was dedicated to pushing the band where it needed to be. James was just being a controlling dickhead. Then when the interviewer asked what was Jason supposed to do on the down time James like a douche says " I don't know (or care) I'm not his fucking travel agent. Just a prick when he wants to be.
This is the interview I believe that they had mentioned when they realized how disconnected they were as a band after seeing what each individually had to say. It lead to them having to hire Phil Towe, the therapist in Some Kind of Monster, and fuelled Jason's ongoing dissatisfaction with the band for having to do so.
It's tainted Load and Reload for me knowing that James came up with the bass lines, and handed them to Jason to play. King Nothing- a Hetfield bass line
It did kinda put me off a bit knowing the backstory of all of this. I was really excited when I heard some really cool bass lines on Load and ReLoad but then realized that most of them were James' bass lines handed over to Jason. I still love both those albums though.
it honest explains *a lot* about why those albums were not very good compared to what came before. I suspect that with Master of Puppet and And Justice for All, they probably had a good bit of leftover Cliff material to work with that they had Jason play and built songs around. Once that was used up, it was downhill from there, since they wouldn't let their bassist do much and tried to paint everything to make it look like he was the bad guy in that documentary
Jason grew up with a friend named Jimmy McCoy and when he realized that James was a Hetfield, he knew he had to pick Jimmy's side because of the feud between the Hetfield's and McCoy's. 😂
To be fair, Jason was there for two of their most successful albums and two decent selling ones. Rob has been there for two terrible albums and two good but not huge selling legacy albums. He’s mostly a legacy add/touring member.
The bass player position always seems void, Yes the reality is Cliff is dead nothing to do with the impression of the lingering vacancy. I do miss Jason only because he now gone and I can appreciate him. To this day when I think Robert I think infectious groves not Metallica. It’s crazy he longest standing bass player. When justice came out I was 13 and listening to I notice the bass not being their. However I didn’t have musical understanding of the bass issue. I interpreted as the bass was useless over the sounds of Jamez heavy bassy crunch. It’s always left an impression on me. Hence that’s why I think the bass player is always void in Metallica.
They fanaly accept they are not bosses... Before Some kind of monster documentary, afther Dave kick out and Cliff death, when you are with Metallica you work for James and Lars. Case & point Kirk still be ignore by the band and the doc: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PP1lMKiqCxY.html
@@fanan29 It's 20 year's ago, maybe they changed their opinion? I think the present Metallica don't have a problem at all if any of them would make a sideproject.
I can hardly stomach the arrogance of James... to think that the biggest band in the world would be threatened by Jason's side project(s). Jason was the heart and soul of Metallica and filled a huge void when Cliff died. Don't even get me started on Lars and Napster... Like a lot of you have mentioned about Robert, I still feel like he's the FNG of the band and he's been at the helm for 20 years now. Robert is an amazing bassist. I would never say otherwise! He just doesn't fit the band, even if he fingers like a mad man like Cliff did (to a point). I will always respect Robert for his days with Suicidal Tendencies!! Jason has stated in past interviews that he could never keep up with the band nowadays. As someone who picked up the bass because of Jason, I understand muscle memory and how fast you loose it if you don't keep up with it. Jason seems happier in life, has a beautiful bride and of course nice royalties to make the ends meet! I wish Jason all the best!!!
Even as far back as the Damaged Justice tour, James was being a twat to Jason. I remember the amount of dead-eye stares he gave to Jason during their Sheffield City Hall gig in 1988. Even my mates remarked about it after the show.
James is so special he should get a looper pedal and start his own thing. To me it seems as if James after Cliffs passing had to play a role that was too much for him, Cliff was the musical mastermind. And his sense of humor is almost always at the expense of somebodyelse. At school there was a word for such guy...
I dont think breaking the door and piling stuff on top of Jason then throwing his stuff out the window is right That kind of disrespect means he wasnt like part of the band behind the scenes. He must have wanted to walk out many times but it was his dream to be part of them and the money he got plus fame made it so hard. Someone does that to me they would have got punched . Jason was cool . Shame the rest never respected him
Mustaine said that James and Lars were doing the same to Ron Mac Govney. They were throwing his shoes out of the window of the bus. Dave say that in the interview "am i a legend" i think
I still consider Robert Trujillo as "the new guy" in Metallica, even though he's been in the band 20 years, lol! That is a testament to how much Jason meant to the band. I mean, they chose Jason to replace Cliff, so the guy is good! I never took to Trujillo. Even now during interviews, he just sits there like a bump on a log and barely says two words as if he's scared to talk or put in his two cents about anything! He's content to sit there silently, raking in the dough. Maybe that's why James and Lars like him--he never says anything! I agree with James that side projects would've taken away from the Metallica "brand". But they can't say, 'We need family time, Jason. You just have to sit there and do nothing while we take our daughters to ballet class.' Really? How about maybe saying instead- "Jason, while we take family time why don't you come up with some new bass tracks for the next album or write some new material and we'll all get together later and discuss what you've done." That would keep Jason doing what he loved to do which was play and write for Metallica, while the other guys could take their family time. BTW, when I saw James back in the day taking his daughter to ballet class in her tiny pink tutu, I nearly needed a barf bag, lol. Talk about Un-Metallica! Sure, they all matured, got married and had kids, we all do, great. But for me, as a woman who had a huge crush on James, I'm not trying to see James Hetfield do that! Seeing that was waay worse than thinking of Jason having a side band, lol!😆
Exactly! Let Jason & Kirk spend that time writing music for Metallica, and the new album could've been something special if James & Lars gave up some control. Instead we got St Anger (barf!).
first part of the coment 100 % agree with you. the other part is just stupid. you realise that they are all humans?? and hear that from a woman... pathetic
@@johnhareiel5118 That band is James first family period!! Anything after that is secondary. Just James trying his hand at having the family he wishes he had growing but still grossly dropping the ball due to his inner demons that he never dealt with.
Rob is a great all around musician and I've been a fan of his playing since his days in Suicidal Tendencies and Infectious Grooves, but having Rob in Metallica is like putting a Porsche engine in a VW. It might be able to fit, but it's too much engine for the car...or in this case, the drummer. Also, Jason was too nice of a guy. Imagine if they tried that knocking down the hotel door and flipping the mattress bit with Robert Trujillo back in the day. I think at least one or two of those guys would have woken up in the hospital.
It kinda sucks too since a lot of people still see Rob as the “new guy” in the band even now after almost 20 years. I think hes been in the band longer than Cliff or Jason and it just seems so weird he still gets that label.
Also consider this. You can only pick one set of circumstances, and someone has to go: James and Jason fueding... or James, Kirk, Lars, and Rob all vibing. As far as the hotel room incident... you pay me $40 million for the Black Album tour, you can flip my hotel mattress whenever.
Rob is a good player. He is not either Cliff nor Newstead (who honestly was the best bassist for this band). Rob is the guy who PLAYS with Metallica. Both Cliff and Jason were Metallica.
I’m glad that Jason is on good terms with them again today but I hate that it took him leaving Metallica for them to wake up and see what problems they needed to face and indeed face those problems. I watched an interview with Metallica a couple years back and James, Lars and Kirk had nothing but good things to say about Jason, and all of them pretty much understood why he left and admitted that if any of them were in the same situation, they would’ve probably done the same thing. I don’t think the entire relationship was like that the whole time. Yes, there was six months of hazing, but even Jason said after the first six months, they were kind of past it and they were brothers for most of the time after that. It was really the last two or three years were things started to get kind of hectic for everyone in the band, it’s all the normal things, big artist, especially in the world of metal and rock go through. Relationship problems, growing farther apart, drugs etc.
Jason also said 2-3 years in it got even worst. Instead of hazing just straight up disrespect. Y'all trying to make it seem like shit died down after 6 months. He was still catching hell years later.
What a stupid stance, to not allow someone to do a sideproject. As long as he s available for the mainband when needed, what s the harm? It can only broaden your musical horizons...
I went to a Jerry Cantrell show shortly after Layne died, Jerry gave a eulogy before playing Would? and then Robert Trujillo did the crab crawl during the song. What a fool.
Jason never disliked James, he quit Metallica over a side project called ecobrain or eco-brain something like that because James was against side projects because he thought they killed bands. Thats pretty much the gist of it.
How many albums as Jason put out since 2001 ... I like the first echobrain album the one with kirt featuring on suckerpunch and I didn't really mind some of the Newstead stuff .... he must have at least 4 to 5 albums out now in what 20 odd years
Jason looked more 'Metallica' than Metallica. And since Cliff died they treated him like a freshman. I miss Jason, he thought it was outrageous that they had a psychiatrist following them around for St. Anger.
Everyone always says Jason was nothing special, he sucks, he didn't do anything good he left FNJ for Metallica, hated because he was a fan that got lucky and won the lottery all that bullshit but here's what you gotta remember, THEY choose Jason over everyone else who auditioned plus while they hated the fact he was fan truth be told it was inevitable everyone auditioning was a Metallica fan no matter who it was or where they were from they weren't just gonna pick some glam rock, punk rock or classic rock person who didn't know metal to be the bassists they choose who had talent and if he didn't have talent they wouldn't have picked him in the first place at all. While yes he didn't have the talent cliff had but in reality the only ones during that time to have cliff's talent was Geddy Lee and Steve Giorgio so filling his shoes were hard enough to begin with even now with the shoes being bigger that Rob had to fill in once Jason left, bitching that he left a good thrash band FNJ for Metallica is dumb considering KIRK did the same thing when he left Exodus for Metallica in 1983 filling mustaines shoes which was just as hard, while he is worth more than ROB that's only because he was in when 3 of the bands most popular albums including the black album was out as well as the ones from the 90s and the live shows throughout the decade heading into 2000. While his own solo career isn't the best Metallica's discography wasn't any better from 2003-present especially in comparison to the big 4s discography from the same time period, it wasn't easy for him to do anything when james wanted to control him in any way possible for writing and ideas, while yeah Metallica is still successful without him the energy of the live shows downgraded after Jason left since he was the driving force of Metallica's live shows the heart, soul and overall energy of the band, what's the biggest upset is the fact that James never got over his demons he never got over Jason leaving at all especially considering he had to go back to rehab 20 years after he originally did in 2001 since he was looking like shit if he just came out and admitted that he fucked up he was a pos to Jason he should've gotten over it and should've said sorry after he left the drama wouldn't remain especially since mustaine got over it and it was worse for Dave then it was for james and he moved on no problem.
Great video & content! Subscribing to support your channel & get that 1K subs you deserve!! 🤘🏻 side note: Jason did step up when it was impossible to fill Cliff’s shoes…he was loyal, first to arrive & last to leave from what I’ve researched…Always there for the fans & bled Metallica for 15 years…I think largely there was just was too much trauma with the loss of a cliff Jason often was found the scapegoat & outsider, even though Cliff’s parents both supported the decision of Jason joining. In the end…we wouldn’t have maybe even had ever heard: “…and justice for all” all the way to “Reload” if not for Jason.
yeah well James couldn't fight his way out of wet paper bag. you would think that James and Lars would want a fan in the band that plays . that truly feels the music within.
@@krystofodehnal9448 I guess. I think he's lucky he did though or he would have ended up not owning his own music and not being allowed to write all the songs he's written. Metallica is so lazy compared to him, it would have driven him nuts like it did Jason.
@@megamax898 except Metallica is the biggest metal band of all times while Megadeth is .. well.. Megadeth. Band own by an ego maniac who prouds himself by most kicked out members from a band ever, worst metal vocals ever and the biggest cry baby in metal.. yeah, you are right, he did quite good for himself 😅
@@krystofodehnal9448 Biggest metal band but still lazy AF. I wasn't even talking about how well Megadeth did, anybody who really loves making music would hate being in Metallica and taking a decade long hiatus between albums and coasting off of their first 4 albums for 40 years.
The bullying that he suffered has no excuse. That being said, there's something I don't get. Jason had so many ideas, and wanted to play and record them so badly, yet, since he left Metallica, 20 years ago, he barely put out anything. Besides his self-titled album, "NEWSTED", which wasn't exactly a big success, what else did did he publish, as a musician? What projects was he involved with, that saw the light of day?
Jason put what he thought was his whole life into metilica and at the time others were slacking he was so active and full of energy he had a side band hames protects things that are his to much and they had a fall out Lars and the others should of said hang on a min but they hates how Jason was better than cliff and cliffs death mebt Jason's rise to stardom so they never got over that Jason is a talent that you don't get rid of but he had to choose his sanitary over that band Kars and James are metilica rgwy are a drum and guitar duo like white strips the other two are there in support Jason would share the front of. The stage stoke a bit of James thunder I think
Sort of reminds me of when Tool bassist Paul D’Amoure left, he wasn’t happy because he wasn’t allowed to be involved in the creative process. I can understand that 100%... You show nothing but loyalty for years on end perhaps thinking that one day you can express your ideas and thoughts. But NO! Just take your position, keep your mouth shut and follow orders! But ‘orders’ dont necessarily come from the band ‘leaders’, they come from the upper management of said bands... those greedy bastards who eventually destroy the bands they finance and then walk away with most of the money.
I laughed at "were the same guys as we were from the start, we've never changed"....I beg to differ. After 4 great albums, and constantly telling fans how they would never sell out, they did. Then we got the crappy Black album and it only got worse from there. As someone who followed them for my teenage years into my early 20s, I felt let down by a band I grew up loving.
@@alex8449 they sure did, I mean they first said "We will never make a video", and then "One" was made into a video, but it was a good video. In Justice for All was as raw as the first 3 albums.....and then in the early 90s, they hooked up with the producer who worked with Motley Crew, released the Black album, and they lost alot of their original fans, but gained a much bigger following. I really hated the Black album, the only thing left which resembled anything they had done before was Sad But True, but it was so over produced it couldn't retain what made Metallica great in the first place....and it only got worse from there.
@@HipnikDragomir It was overproduced garbage. Were you alive for when Metallica was claiming they'd never sell out? Listening to that album the first time really pissed me off as it did so many who loved their first 4 albums and Garage Days Revisited..... What I'll give them is that they have always been a force to be reckoned with in an arena....saw them many times in their earlier days.....
Today, you see an older James, for sure more mature and humbled by life, alcohol/drug addiction, etc, etc. I don't fully buy into his recovered addict rhetoric, I have heard enough of it to know what's up. The treatment Rob got when he joined was a simply a PR stunt to regain trust from the fans. These days, Metallica's new music sounds like a suburbia dad band band trying to write Motorhead songs. Wishing all the best to Jason.. on a different note, you know who has been the same through the decades and I grow to love more every day, Mr Dave Mustaine, what a legend and king of metal! - haha, I didn't know I had all of this in me until now.
Jason was a great performer with Metallica. Such a shame. Seems he had to put up with some bullshit. Having played music for over 30 years I understand how it happens. Personality differences, alcohol and drugs can make people hate one another.
I can see why he was frustrated, I would be too, to be honest. But gotta respect family time, and I’m sure he did. But he needed to fuel himself as a musician. But James hated it, it is what it is. But I think this had to happen. Sucks we lost Jason, but shit happens.
It's because by the time they had Newstead, they had already used up Dave's material. And then, real metal guys all like Flotsam better than the New Age Metallica that started 30 years ago. James knows Jason wrote better metal...
They should have stopped and had some time off. I agree. I wish sometimes Jason would have stayed in F&J. It is interesting looking back seeing them use Dave's material, then Cliff's and Jason's. Then we got the Load & Reload BS that should have had a warning on it. This was back when you really had a hard time listening to the music(had to have a friend who had it or that worked at the record store) before you bought it!
@@deductivereasoning4257 You n hardcore Megadeth fan think that and that's about it unless it people who just believe anything. . Metallica's first two albums are mild stones in music and yes Dave did have some part of that but not all of it. If you listen to Dave today now, it's Kirk used parts of my work and rest was Kirk's and that work Dave worked on belonged to Metallica not just Dave. Understand. Puppets on the other hand gave bands like Megadeth n co the spot light they needed. I grew up in that era and very few people outside of us hardcore metal heads knew about any of these bands until puppets and that album helped the Thrash world. So maybe instead of Dave pissing on everyone, he should be thankful. And that is a fact. And to be honest Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer etc should be thanking the one guy before than that gave hardcore metal the limelight was Motorhead.
@@caperbye474 I was there too. And Puppets led me to the 1st 2 albums. The best songs on 1st 2 albums led me to Megadeth. That's how the process works, like everything else, reverse engineering. There was no media exposure for any bands, it was word of mouth and Puppets is not responsible for the word of mouth, like everything else, it benefitted from it. And if we are to give credit, Metallica greatly benefitted from Maiden's popularity. You yourself don't give much credit to the 1st 2 albums, at the same time, Maiden had already cranked out 5 bangers before Puppets. Even Ozzy's best work was already out when Puppets was released...
Jason was never treated right by Metallica. They took out Cliff’s death (they’ll tell you that). Notice how they treat Rob differently. James is a control freak and I don’t blame Jason one bit for leaving the band.
Bands are hard to manage and in hindsight, they could have done it better. Music is life for Jason, he needs that outlet year round. Bands should share credit equally as well, how many band break because of that, numerous!? Metallica is a great SFBA band, though it seems they have gotten comfortable in their formula. The last Metallica album that I bought was LuLu (I do like it.). Jason definitely added to the band and wasn’t well treated, abusive and toxic work environment… not surprised he left and James went into rehab.
Without Jason, Metallica would become just a band that was one a hell of leviathan and than turn to dead whale on the beach. Cliff's death was an proof that this 3 goofs cant do something without drop dead in anxienty and narcissism breakdown. Cliff probably was an alpha. James hubbs, Lars older brother, Kirk senpai. His death just create a void musically that make till today. But they thought much more from themselves blocking Jason's criativity like "Just or male master Cliff could create something good, u dont...bleh" like children with jealous from some new kiddo on the soccer team. So Jason going through his path was much better for him. He make his statement as rockstar, musician, producer and person, in the industry and fandom worldlike. Thats why always think that Mustaine have more reason in his side of story too
Always loved Jason and sure Hatfield was probably a overbearing jerk. Having said that let's face facts. In a thrash metal band bass can be done by anyone. Strong lead guitar and good vocals will get you through. Yes yes Don't forget a sweet drummer. Just my opinion.
Haha you talk about the most successful band, Jason is awesome musician beyond words but the side project got him nothing he became so unpopular and no cared for his music he should’ve thought better before leaving the band + he was complaining about the band having families and then one of the recent interviews he said that most of the bass line was written by JAMES on the album load.
@@abdulbarigashout7664 do you ever have a feeling that the things they say in the interviews are sometimes very spur of the moment? I wish Jason stayed in the band, that's for sure. I think he was great in his place, but they surely had plenty of contradictions. As for "loners", they always had that vibe, at least James and Lars.
@@abdulbarigashout7664 You sound ridiculous!! In Jasons own words "Ecobrain was not meant to be bigger than Metallica". In other words his dedication and loyalty was Metallica period. Ecobrain was his musical outlet. While the rest of the guys are off creating families he had none. Just his music and he wanted to continue to create that. He's not kicking himself for leaving the band. Peace of mind is worth a hell of a lot than staying in such a toxic environment. And of course James wrote the bass lines. They didn't give Jason no creative freedom.
It's clear to many who know James background he has control issues growing up in a Christian Science family. His father left him at 13 and his mother died when he was 16 leaving him feeling abandoned and betrayed. Many of his songs like Dyer's Eve, The God That Failed and Mama Said reflect this. When Jason went off and did his side projects it opened up a lotta of that trauma he has never quite healed from and thus the parting of ways.
We don't need a history lesson into Hets fucked up pass. He can join the club with 100 of millions of people around the world who has been through some fucked up shit at the hands of family or strangers. With that being said, it doesn't give you a right to treat people like garbage. What's interesting is that once James saw the band (his first and foremost family) was being threatened to fall to pieces that's when he wants to get right. Nothing else was making him think I need help. Only Jasons defiance of breaking the cardinal rule "No one leaves Metallica willingly unless you're dead" woke his ass up.
Because Jason is a good guy and respectable. James is well, no. Weird. I love all three Metallica bassists but I can stand the other three plagiarists, they suck. Don’t like any of their music really. Bunch of drama queens.
It was about control James I think may have been taking some of his frustration out on Jason and to me James felt that Jason wanted to cheat on the band like having an affair in a marriage truthfully today l think Jason isn't doing to well James seems more educated and humble then he's been in the past on the wagon off the wagon a wheel falls off you put it back on I know spent a life time recovering anyways those two men are good people I wish them well for those though who may think money can fix everything that's not the case
