Good answer we are only hear for a short time. Funny how 70 or 80 years seems like a long time when we are young but as we age we realize how fast it goes by. Our life is so short thank God for the hope in Jesus 🙏
Also, it surely was really helpful to have 7+ people of the "family tree" to pass the knowledge of what had happened since Creation to each other. Since most of the stuff that was known back then were transmitted via oral tradition. Being able to not only hear something from your father or grandfather, but to actually be able to talk to 700 year old Adam and ask himself personally would be a great testimony to the truthfulness of what they were all saying
I thought of that too. It will be awesome to meet those people and ask questions about how their lives were back then. I’m sure they will have lots of questions for us too, especially if our generation is the one that will be here when Jesus returns.
they had to be child rapists to have 7 + generations of people in the same family , 13 new moons a year x 70 years = 910 moons egyptians changed it to 365 days
E you people never played 'telephone (?) Where you sit in a circle and whisper a message around it. Then the last person to receive the message tells what they heard and the originator tells what they said and they're never the same. Pax
@@rduff1999 Right, that's why to have everyone alive at the same time ensured the message being said 900 years later was the same as the one in the beggining.
The deception in & through SIN .. is, such a detriment to living a rich whole life. Am so sad 😭 😞 & badly bruised in my conscience to know & realize what SIN has done in my short life. By GRACE ... I live ... “For there is no condemnation; To, those who are In JESUS CHRIST❤️” Thank you Pastor John for your insight & this upload.
The Word of God says that we will always struggle with sin while we’re in the flesh, but we must resist by the Power of the Holy Spirit. When we fail, we are to confess our sin and ask the Father for forgiveness in the Name of Jesus Christ. ❤️🙏🏻☝🏻
Lord protect us from wickid & evil spirit. Have mercy and grace upon us. Let us be filled with holy spirit. Reveal the truth about our situations. Cast & binding away dark spirit. Break all the soul ties & bondage that are not from you.
And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” Genesis 6:3 NKJV
Thank you Pastor John, this message put tears into my eyes, and reflect on how utterly disgusting and such a failure we humans have become eversince the Fall to Sin. It has made me hate this world even more and hate the SIN that still lingers in my flesh....but thanks be to GOD thru Jesus Christ, He has provided a WAY to REVERSE this. And although my age may not reach 100 or more because of the curse of sin...there is HOPE of ETERNITY in Christ. That gives us Christians more REASON to keep on EXAMINING OURSELVES to SEE if we are in the FAITH everyday. Or we too fail. Thanks Pastor John for this message. God bless. ❤️🙏
Easy question. Because they obeyed God's command in Genesis 1:29. Eat only fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds. If you do the same you will be amazed at the positive results. See also Daniel chapter 1
@@56pjr the Bible doesn't say that they only ate those things, you're just assuming. Realisticly they didn't, given that most of them had large flocks of animals. As I said, John Piper's answer was very biblical and I think I'd choose his answer to the question over yours.
Genesis 1:29 is clear. All fruits and vegetables. Do no add to God's Word. Daniel 1 also confirms, as does the Tree of Life in Revelation. Even secular doctors will tell you that a vegan diet will improve your health. What are you waiting for?
Also the water in the heavens, which was used by God to fuel the flood, would have been like a water ozone layer. In essence it would have made the whole earth like a giant greenhouse, causing everything within to flourish in a way we can’t imagine. Add the removal of that, with the produce of God for shorter lives, to the living in sin… it all adds up
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. Genesis 6:3
Death was a mercy of God for a fallen man now full of sin but able to conquer it through redemption to a better life out of this body and into a glorified one.
God's original plan for mankind was to live forever, but after sin, humankind began to die. I believe that sin and diet are partly the reason why lifespan has changed so drastically.
You are correct but the reason they lived so long is because they were nearer to physical perfection as was Adam. The ages gradually wound down due to genetic deterioration. It fell away quickly after the flood because the source of the flood waters in the upper atmosphere were no longer there to absorb the suns radiation . God will solve all of our causes of death as he has promised. Psm 37:29 "The righteous will possess the earth and they will reside forever upon it" Psm 37:34 ASV Wait for Jehovah and keep his way ,and he will exalt you to inheret the land ( earth RSV) . When the wicked are cut off thou shalt see it).
Agree that we’ve been being poisoned by the enemy for years, but the bottom line is what you first said, and that we were created to live forever, and for hundreds of years, but our years were shortened due to the fall. 🌟☝🏻💯
@@Iamwrongbut I would say, a lifespan of immortality (Adam & Eve before the fall in Genesis) vs. the lifespans after the fall (see all the chronologies of years of age) and after the fallen angels/nephilim mated with women (Isaiah 14:12).
Easy question. Because they obeyed God's command in Genesis 1:29. Eat only fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds. If you do the same you will be amazed at the positive results. See also Daniel chapter 1
I really enjoy how John Piper uses Scripture to anchor the points he is making. I agree with everything he said. Yes, God let the first patriarchs live long life so that in retrospect we might recognize our longevity relative to theirs. However, another point is found in Genesis 6: Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.” Genesis 6:3 (NIV) God limited an individuals life span ALSO to limit the amount of sin, damage and oppression any one person could make on God’s creation and plan of redemption. Soon after this verse, God floods the world to wipe out those evil people to start over with Noah and his family. God bless John Piper.
Good answer but I also wonder if a simple aspect of genetics plays a part in it. Think of it like making copies. Adam and Eve were the originals (created perfectly) so the first 8-10 “copies” were pretty close to the original. Once the originals are gone, you are making copies of copies and differences start to arise, ie, genetic errors start to duplicate and add up.
Desiring GOD should make a groupchat, because the world is becoming wicked and we as believer have to stick together and SPREAD the TEACHINGS OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST
It is my opinion that some reasons why people in Genesis was because the weather conditions were optimal for extended life spans, and apparently food was fresher and didn't have the additives that have been part of our diet. After the flood, lifespans began to shorten tremendously, and I think that somehow climate conditions became different, some Christians believe that God had put some kind of protection against UV rays that are harmful and conducive to shorten lives.
Sin has been like a domino effect, making us weaker and weaker like poison. We can all see the pattern in our own lives but it must be the case for all mankind too.
@@pomegranatepip2482 It doesn't? As an evolutionary biologist and ecologist, I do happen to know that human life expectancy is not the same as life span and the former has changed a lot more than the latter and for many different reasons throughout time. If you want some explanations I can go into that (eg food supply, hygiene...) but I get the impression you may have misunderstood my point because none of those explanations for the latest increase in life expectancy (which may actually take a dip as we begin to suffer the effects of "too much of a good thing" like obesity, metabolic syndromes, autoimmunity, pollution...) have much to do with sin.
Perfect DNA in the beginning is why, and very few mutations for the first 1600 years, before the Genesis worldwide flood. There was probably perfect weather before the Genesis Flood, also, and certainly, less pollution. But having perfect, to near perfect DNA, was most likely the main reason of long life.
I think that it had to do with be fruitful and multiply. They needed more time to fill the earth with people. As there were more people on earth the number of years went down. Imagine where all these people would've been at. The world would've been overcrowded.
Over 900 years old? Very much doubt it. People back then probably perceived time differently but there are scientific theories that people thousand years ago indeed lived up to 200 years. Healthier lifestyle, no pollution, no processed food and drinks. Less people on planet with less wars and etc…
I wonder if 4 score and 7 years ago was understood as over a lifetime ago and meant so by Lincoln the author. The decline of livetimes also had a dropoffllong somewhat exponential in the Bible and testifies to the reliability of the claim if you plot it no one at the time would have intended an exponential like droppoff
And our years now would be even much less, as in the centuries before the 20th century when 30s-40s were a person last days, but advances in medicine have extended life. Supposedly, our genetics continue to mutate with every generation with cancer and other issues. All downhill since the effects of the Great Flood and of course the Fall in Eden. Super interesting! And, God wanting the world’s population to be populated as well, could be added to God’s Perfect Purposes
Even the years of age he gave was long in the beginning but after Noah every man only live untill 100 he said this and its happening now yes..god can perform the most anything he want to do🎉🎉🎉🎉
It doesn’t matter how long you live, just how many children you have. Noah was 950 and had only 3 children. Shorter lives would actually lead to a quicker growth in population.
Also I believe it is a blessing from God that we are not allowed to live hundreds of years on this sinful earth. Our world is growing more and more sinful. The longer we’re exposed to sin the more prone we are to wander. ??
Abraham thought it was laughable that a man could be a father at 100. So 100 was thought to be an old man, incapable of reproduction. Strange, as his own father was around that age when he had Abraham. He then lives another 75 years. Look at Inspiring Philosophy's video on the subject. Piper is a bit too basic in his reading here. The #s simply don't make sense if literal.
Just as every nation of power has failed as shown in recorded history from corruption and greed an immorality. So are genetics passed down with disease. Everything degrades from sin and dies. So if a nation or people could live with out sin it would last forever. Heaven is that place that sin will be eliminated and as the bible says,, Forever we will live in Heaven.
When I think of people living for hundreds of years I tend to wonder how fit they were. Were they as fit as a 30 or 40 year old for 200 of their 500 years and how long did they live as an elderly person, wrinkled, with joint pain, short sighted and hard of hearing? Also it seemes to be assumed that because certain patriarchs are listed as living to an old age, then everyone in those days also had super long lives. For how long were they fertile? Sarah & Abraham were said to be too old for children at 90 or so. Is it possible there were some parents of 200 children? If most of the people of a tribe had the same parents, how do they avoid problems associeted with incest? How would all those people be fed in an era of farming by hand. As intriguing as the stories of people living for hundreds of years are, they seem to raise some serious logistical or practical questions, which few seem to even ask.
Abram and his wife Sarah had been married for ~60 years and still had no children. because Sarah was barren. That was what Abraham meant when referring to his wife, it was her inability to bare children
another interesting passage you may want to consider to answer your other question is found in Genesis 12:10-20): in Genesis 20 we read that King Abimelech attempted to take 90-year-old Sarah as his wife. ( because she was beautiful and perhaps even youthful as she aged)
you are right to ask that question @Payne2view . The bible doesn't say everyone lived that long. Just those in the line of Messiah. I did a vid on this a couple of years back and there are a couple of passages that show us that normal people did not live that long.
One man saw Apostle John. John came to meet that man of God.If he is still living what would be his life on earth.Do u think he must be sorrow free or being in flesh he must be going thru sufferings mentioned in John 16:33.?
Great answer. The Biblical account actually implies aging was >sloweroutlived< their sons and grandsons. Until moses, incest wasn't prohibited and wasn't a problem due to the great genetics Adam and Eve started with.
In the Complete Work of Josephus, Josephus says the length of a man's life was set at a maximum of the years Moses was on earth which was 120 years. It also says the flood affected the soil so the food did not have the same nutrition anymore. It also says the Jewish history books agree with all of the ancient history books.
They didn't eat same junk food our society craves because they knew how to cook and had plenty of exercise and didn't have to mess with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc, etc... "and" wasn't in their vocabulary - they had more import things to do - like survive... Plus they did' 't depend on government subsidies and stimulus checks... In other words they had full employment and NO masks...
The first sin caused humans to not live forever. God told Adam and Eve, if they should eat of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, they shall surely die. Eve ate first, and then Adam. That caused them to begin dying.
Why did you say terah was 148 years old when he died. This is possibly due to Steven in acts mentioning the story of when Abram leaves haran. But genesis says specifically that terah died at 205. Why do you choose Steven’s account over the seemingly explicit genesis 11 verse?
With these incredible ages, and no explanation for why life spans were shortened, it’s almost like the author is trying to tell us that this history is figurative. Especially because some of Noah’s direct ancestors apparently lived to an age that would make them alive through and after the flood, even though they didn’t get on the ark. Impossibruh.
If death is the result of the introducti on of sin and sin was introduced when Eve and Adam ate from the tree of knowledge, doesn't that mean anyone born after that sin would be subject to the decree of death? Wouldn't that mean that Noah should never have lived to be 950 years old since his existence happened after the fall? In fact, none of those people should have should have lived past 80 because the fall from grace is one of the first events in the bible. I am just making a logical deduction from Pastor John's words.
@@pomegranatepip2482 i used to think like you. Denied any religion or spiritual things for many many years. Then one day out of nowhere, Jesus found me. I even tried to reject him at that point for a while but it was too late. I was saved already. Once you stop running it'll happen for you too. God loves you
Surely the flood changed the original creation to such an extent that a more hostile environment (radiation, for example) reduced lifespans significantly. Whitcomb and Morris suggest this in “The Genesis Flood”. As for the curse - no change since the fall. Except with Christ of course. Human flesh in heaven.
It's possible that humans could live much longer at some point in our history, but in case of the Bible, at least for most of the Old Covenant, a Patriarch doesn't represent an individual human being, but rather a single dynasty, while a year stands for a single lifetime of a leader within a dynasty, even if the crucial events between instances when the Bible is counting time, does always apply to specific individuals, and shouldn't be treated symbolically.
The direct descendants of Adam and Eve lived long lives compared to the other people due to the residule effect of the tree of life that had been eaten from before the fall. The other people, like Cains wife thought of the Adamites as being immortals. It took until around 1500 BC for the effects to have finally faded.
I’ve also heard it presented (by a very Biblical-minded teacher) that genetics plays a roll which wouldn’t go against anything said here. But much like we once had giants, dominate genes (though not always desired) perhaps what leans is into our current lifespans among other things such as height. Noah’s boys all went separate ways with their own genes. Ishmael and Isaac went their own ways with their genes. Jacob and Esau has their own sets. I’m not saying this is necessarily the case, but it may perhaps answer how we’ve ended up where we have. Much like many people believe that blond or red hair is more desirable or green or blue eyes are more desirable, but when paired with brown or black (dominate gene characteristics) the darker (more dominate) will usually prevail.
Easy question. Because they obeyed God's command in Genesis 1:29. Eat only fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds. If you do the same you will be amazed at the positive results. See also Daniel chapter 1
@@pomegranatepip2482 surely gluttony affects your physiology, you become obese, surely vanity affects your physiology, things like anorexia come to mind as well as cosmetic surgeries, wrath can get you to seek power through things like hormones and steroids, I mean c'mon man where on earth where you coming from?
That verse is talking about the Second Death, which is the judgment for all unrepentant sinners. The Lake of Fire is the Second Death. The Wages of Sin is the Second Death. Repenting of those sins and following Jesus Christ gives us Eternal Life.
It's been shown that it only just a bad translation. I don't recall the very specific one but it confused years and months. Some scholars can show exactly where it happened long in the past. As for yourself, just devide those years by twelve and see how you get typical ages.
Less viruses, less deaseas, less enemies, good food, perhaps faster hour in intraday, or miss leading Jew calenders (before sabbath was created by Moses)
I think we should count ourselves blessed to live on this sin filled world such a short time compared to the early people of the Bible. That means we only have to suffer a short time before we go to See Jesus, not having to rely on faith anymore and spend eternity with Him who created us.
God does not punish, he is pure love. I'm so tired of being taught that God is a vengeful God. This is the greatest hoax perpetuated by man. Why would our God create us, just to turn around and punish us, for living in a world he knew was going to be full of sin, and knew we would fail at it. This is exactly why people are leaving churches and organized religion. We are living by a book that was written over thousands of years ago.. God is love, God is light. We are all children of God. We come from heaven to experience this world. We are not humans seeking a spiritual experience, we are spirits seeking a human experience. The Bible was written and edited by man, not all was included, which tells me not to trust a lot of it. I believe in Jesus, I believe he is the son of God, we are all sons and daughters of God.
@@mcw3560 Your assumption is funny.. Everything in the bible is made-up stories... By the bible - Adam and Eve were created 7000-8000 years ago... Archeologist all over the world dig out skeletons dated back to 60 000 - 100 000 years ago. Who you think I will believe.. real evidence or fairy tail book...
Because that is the way God planned it. Man lived long to verify the truth of God's dealings with mankind verbally by word of mouth being eye witnesses of events. Then they were recorded.
