Why I Am No Longer A Christian (Was Studying to be a Pastor) 

@jonsdaytrades our mind is powerful.. what we believe to be true, is.. you can heal yourself .. leaving Christianity les me to research and find ways to live my life in a more abundant way.. read Dr. Joe Dispenza’s book ‘You are the Placebo”.. I don’t follow any rules I just create my own based on the reality that I wish to experience..

And what are you now and in what way does it bring you more peace than what you had as a Christian? I am a Christian who used to be an atheist, and from my perspective I am much more at peace now than when I was an atheist.

@jonsdaytrades I was baptized as an infant, however I left the religion for a few years and became an atheist, but praise be to the Lord Christ, I found my way back. And I do remember that when I was an atheist I was not at peace at all. Now, though not at perfect peace, is much better than when I was an atheist.

@jonsdaytrades Why do you need this info? It is unnecesary to the argument at hand. Because the truth is that "Being at peace" in a belief does not mean that that belief is true or untrue.

​@@baldwinthefourth4098you made the right decision,a lack of understanding what christianity is,makes us leave christianity,i have battled the spirit of atheism,bcoz it is what leads us away from the truth,one can be a pastor and leave christianity, if you don't have proper foundations,you will have a lot of problems. I have heard audible voice of God 4 times, i have had visions,i have had an open vision of Jesus. I have seen my friend manifest demonic possession,wasn't staged,nothing,i have seen it all but still have had to battle doubt. The devil is real,and he will drag you to hell if you let him,if you can't identify him,you will fail. Glad you came back to you faith,Jesus guarantees to make Himself indisputable to everyone on earth. Seek and you will find is literal,we don't seek horizontally but vertically

The great falling away. Mason you will see many leave as we're close to the end.

@@Odo-so8pj what do you mean by that? the rapture?

@@mason-xr5pr No such thing as "rapture" it's not in the bible. That's a daft idea con men in America tell Christians Along with you can get an SUV etc etc. Less than 10% of people actually read their bibles. My friend is "Roman Catholic" and has NEVER read a chapter.

@@mason-xr5pr By the way I understand why you want to leave.

@@Odo-so8pj I heard you used the term “great falling away” and I assumed you were here to try and convert me. Lol

Funny how you just quoted a bible verse written before you even existed stating EXACTLY what you just said.

well I'm sure whenever an atheist converts to christianity and puts it online, atheist's likely try to do something similar, or make fun of them for becoming christian. so is it really that surprising?

Its not that weird. If its not in the Bible is it really Christian. To represent a Christian perspective you need to have some basis in the Bible. They could attempt to put it in laymen's terms.

The No True Scotsman fallacy is not a compelling reason to return to any religion. I'm very happy for him. Life has so much more meaning when you realize it's not just a dress-rehearsal.

@Deborah Hearne "I would love for him to get saved and become a real Christian." This is exactly what every brainwashed members of every cult say.

@@2fast2block Are you saying God doesn't hear the prayer of the wicked? Well im not giving up.

So condescending!!!

@@tealx2014 what is?

@@gordongoodman8342 When people say, “they’ll pray for me!”

@@tealx2014 Why is that condescending to you?

@SecondKings15fourteen well this is rather humorous. My suggestion was that believers ask questions, not answer them or make unevidenced assumptions. After 5 years of intense research the answers I find from the believer have become tediously repetitious.

@@kofw72 Speaking as a Christian, I would ask such a question more often. But I've hesitated for a time because I had a sensitive creative drive and wanted to avoid getting ideas for stories that would add to a long list of ideas. But since I've sacrificed my passion for writing and creative drive on the alter of religion, and want it back, guess I better start asking, huh...?

Im a christian. I guess the only question I have is "do you have all of the information you need to make an informed decision ? If you do then great, if you don't then great and then there would have to be a next question of "do you have any questions for me?" and go from there.

I am a novelist. The creative drive comes from God. God makes no mistakes. Ask away!@@DemonicRemption

For people passing through: These topics are a trap set by satan to try and get questioning people to justify what satan is planning for their lives due to their experiences and "knowledge" instead of talking about the realities of ourselves. True freedom is loving God which is loving Life. It's not complicated. Didn't even say what satan is to him or what God is to him.

Theres only one way of life in the scriptures. Told directly from God on what everyone is to be. And it ain't baptist, mormon, jehovah witness or even christianity or any other man made religion.

@Ryan Smith And a man is the one telling you there is no God.

@Ryan Smith Your point is well stated. I also have your thoughts about God. I will briefly add my "two cents worth", to your comment, which may help you. I do believe in the Christian God; however, I've decided that He's a cosmic sadist who thoroughly enjoys His cryptic games. He set the current game up, which He's been doing and playing over and over in "eternity past" with His other prior creations and creatures. The Bible was written and compiled by an intentionally cryptic cosmic sadist who thoroughly enjoys its well designed ambiguity which has caused thousands of disparate and adamant individual and group beliefs in God whose adherents always claim is the "right way" of believing in Him. He never seems to clearly intercede and resolve these differences much less make Himself objectively known to everyone as you pointed out. I'll conclude by quoting Marvin Gaye's "Inner City Blues", "It makes me wanna holler, throw up both my hands"!

I'm curious as to your experiences on your missionary trip, if you don't mind me asking.

@@theanimator2290 It was great! I went to places like South Africa where we spent most of our time in townships (which are essentially slums, the remnants of apartheid). And also Greece and Germany (where we ministered to Muslim refugees who were living on the streets or otherwise miserable conditions. I had my doubts about Christianity before but the more I talked with refugees on the streets of Athens, I saw strength and joy beaming off their face and it didn’t come from Jesus, it came from God. And God is accessible to all people’s everywhere under any name and INSIDE ourselves, INSIDE the people around us, though our flesh may distort that fact, even to Satanic lengths, it is the truth. It was impossible for me to think otherwise, that the divinity of God stretched like a branch or a vine into all thinks, the seed of Life planted everywhere. The Bible is important to me (I even learned Hebrew for two years in University in order to read the Old Testament after I stopped being Christian) and there is a LOT you can learn from it. But there is a lot to learn from all the religions. And when you cut away the excess of each them you forego the dogma that twists the truth (dogma and orthodoxy ruin religion, we are already beginning to see this with modern science today, the NEW religion of the age. True science leaves room for questions, the science of today does NOT. The lab coat wearing scientists have become the new white-robed priests and their religion is one of material and nihilistic science, they have left no room for spirit even though it’s effects are plainly seen (research people like Wim Hoff I have also seen many people healed on my mission’s trips).

@Deborah Hearne They are probably pretenders that go to church to put in their hours and get their time-card ''stamped''. God don't work thataway !!!!!! And the Bible SAYS THAT !!!!! You can't earn salvation....you can't buy Christ .....you can't ''be good enough'' The Bible says that ...and your church attendance record is not the criteria that God uses to judge you...If this were not true....it would be unfair...because only the smart would make it....only the strong would ''make it''....only the successful would be worthy...only the ''religious'' would ''qualify''...WHAT ABOUT THE ETHIOPIAN WHO DIED OF STARVATION AT 12 YEARS OF AGE????? THEY GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL BECAUSE THEY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT JESUS???????????....KMA ! GO STUFF YOURSELF !!!!!!

@Deborah Hearne no comment

A) god knows but doesn't care B) god doesn't know C) god knows but can't change anything D) god is the one doing it on purpose On suffering, injustice and evil

Sweetheart, no one has the right to judge you. You should be loved for who you are. Those that don’t love or except you, fuck them.

@@nick281972 My Dear Friend, can you expect only GOOD from God. When we are in this earth, we have to go through great troubles. That shows, that God loves us. We may not understand. When Christ returns, and after we reach the kingdom of God, there won't be any more pain.

The holocaust, war, people trafficking etc are all products of free will, something god given. Free will is necessary for the true love of god, which is the most important commandment. Now regarding diseases; god has stated that Mark 11:24-Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. So if one has cancer or a disese ask god to cure it, and if you ask with faith you will be cured. For example I myself used to have a flock of sheep with their lambs, one of the lambs had a condition wherein it would have seizures randomly, so that night I asked god to cure this lambs problem and the next day the lamb was cured, it didn’t have a seizure ever again. Bear in mind that this lamb had being having seizures every 30 mins for the past week or so. But the whole basis of your reasoning to why god can’t exist is flawed, how does diseses existing disprove gods existence, after all how does nothing explode to create complex life that have free will?

What if hell isn’t real and God allows suffering so we truly understand love when we receive it that honestly seems to line up more with the God described in the Bible as opposed to the God of Christianity because im sure most atheists or agnostics are smart enough to see that there is a difference

Yes there is evil… but God did not stop there. You cant mention the evil without the sacrifice. Jesus died to offer us a way out. We can now choose life… and to go to a place where there is none of the things you mentioned. So its not like God created evil and left us to fend for ourselves.

I will present two arguments from evil and then give my rebuttal to them. *Argument 1* P1: If God is omniscient He would know how to stop all evil. P2: If God is omnibenevolent He would want to stop all evil. P3: If God is omnipotent He could stop all evil. P4: Evil exists. Conclusion 1: therefore, God is not simultaneously omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipotent. P5: if God exists He would (more likely) be omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipotent. Conclusion 2: therefore, God (more likely) does not exist. *Argument 2 (uses modal logic. "Possible worlds" are a way reality could be/unfold)* P1: If God is simultaneously omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipotent He would only create a best of all possible worlds. P2: The actual world is not a best of all possible worlds [I could easily imagine a better world]. Conclusion 1: therefore, God is not simultaneously omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipotent. P3: if God exists He would (more likely) be omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipotent. Conclusion 2: therefore, God (more likely) does not exist. I will give my answers below which rebuts P2/3 of argument 1 and P2 of argument 2, therefore, making the arguments unsound and thus their conclusions do not follow. Firstly, theologically omnipotence is the doctrine that God is as maximally powerful as is logically possible. Thus, God cannot do the logically impossible. If someone wants to argue omnipotence includes being able to do the logically impossible, they obviously have no real understanding concerning what the laws of logic are and no real understanding of metaphysics, but I will just respond by presenting two problems to their view. 1. If omnipotence is defined as being able to do the logically impossible and if God is omnipotent, then God is not restricted to the laws of logic and thus no logical argument could disprove God's existence (since for an argument to be valid the conclusion must logically follow from the premises--meaning the argument must not commit any formal logical fallacies--yet if God is not restricted to logical law Himself, then the conclusion would not obtain against His existence, because God's existence is not restricted by the laws of logic). 2. a proposition's content which violates a law of logic is normatively regarded as being a meaningless statement (thus it has no truth value). So, for example, the logical law of non-contradiction states something cannot be both A and not A (~A) at the same time and in the same sense. Thus, the following statement is meaningless gibberish, "In my car there exists a square which is not a square"; as it violates the law of non-contradiction. Yet, if one holds that something in existence can violate the laws of logic, they would hold that such a statement (which is normatively regarded as meaningless gibberish) has a truth value--very bizarre. It would be like thinking this following (what seems meaningless gibberish) statement actually has a truth value: "does the the pizza yellow in dice with ice cream?" With all that said, yes God is omnipotent but that does not mean He can violate the laws of logic. Secondly, I want to bring up the issue of a "necessary evil" for a "greater good." This concept is obviously logically possible and we also see examples of it in reality. For example, a doctor may cut off a person's leg, "a (necessary) evil", in order to save the person's life, a "greater good". Someone might respond: this is all true, but God being omnipotent, unlike a finite doctor, He would never be in a place where a necessary evil is required in His dealings for the greater good. my response: not true if the necessary evil is due to the fact God cannot do the logically impossible in order to achieve the greater good. For example, maybe a world where people freely love, even if it includes people who freely hate, is better than a world where people neither freely love nor freely hate. God can't, by definition, create an indeterministically free being and simultaneously determine such a beings actions (by the definitional nature of the case). There is a whole host of possible logical limitations one could think of, especially when more and more variables are introduced into the same reality. Thus far P2 of argument 1 has been rebutted--God would not want to stop all evil if evil can lead to a greater good--and P3 of argument 1 has been rebutted--God could not stop logically necessary evils for a greater good, if He wanted to achieve that greater good--therefore the conclusion can not follow. Thirdly, I want to bring up the issue of gratuitous evil (which is pointless evil not needed for the purpose of a greater good). I want to say I do not necessarily hold that every instance of evil is not gratuitous evil, some of it may well be gratuitous evil. It may be the nature of the case that allowing any evil at all (the category of evil) necessitates that some of it is gratuitous evil (and that is what makes evil so bad), but overall there is still a greater good than had the category of evil not been aloud to exist; or perhaps a world where gratuitous evil exists has an overall higher greater good than a world with no evil or a world with evil but no instances of gratuitous evil allowed because, for example, it is more interventionally micromanaged out. Fourthly, I want to bring up the issue of us not being in an epistemic place to know if we are in a best of all possible worlds via natural epistemic means. The person who says they believe we are not in a best of all possible worlds could be forming this belief: 1. Non-inferentially. 2. Inferentially (i.e. via modeling a better version of reality in their minds than what they believe the actual world to be). I want to address #2 for now. When we reason we model a reality in our minds; but obviously we do so at a very limited level. A person may argue: I can model a better world by simply imagining one less baby dying, for example, therefore this is not one of the best of all possible worlds. I believe there is an undercutting defeater to this argument (an undercutting defeater is a justified defeater which shows the belief-forming-mechanism which formed belief X is not a reliable belief-forming-mechanism) which shows this belief-forming-mechanism (BFM) does not have a reliable epistemic scope to form a reliable belief on the matter. Before I give the reasons as to why, I want to give an example of the principle. Imagine you are on the coastline of England looking south-west to see if there is any land on the earth in that direction. Your visual experience (your BFM) tells you there is no land on the earth in that direction. You have a justified reason for believing there is no land on the earth in that direction--that is until you realize that you have an undercutting defeater showing your visual experience (your BFM) is not in a reliable epistemic position/scope to form these types of beliefs reliably. This is the same problem when we model reality in our minds to think we came up with a better possible world. We can not model/know in our minds all that is logically possible to exist, we can not model/know in our minds all the logically possible interactions between what could possibly exist (including what becomes a necessary evil to a greater good in those variables and interactions) and we do not even know all of what exists/interacts in the actual world (and we would need to include variables like whether there is an afterlife, judgment day, heaven, hell, new earth, etc.). Thus, such a BFM, via means 2, is not in a reliable epistemic place to form the belief as to whether we are in a best of all possible worlds. In fact, this is the point God makes to Job in the Bible. Job is complaining about what he thinks is gratuitous evil (because in his reasoning that is what it seems like to him) and God basically responds that Job is not in an epistemic place to make such an assessment of Him. God challenges Job as to whether He has the ability to govern the universe like God does (and since he can't he should stop trying to be a back-seat driver). Job has good reason to trust God's goodness, and situations where he can not understand why God is doing what He is doing Job should just trust God (His ability and goodness) based on what He knows of Him already and because he is not in an epistemic place to know the details of these things which are making Him doubt God's ability/goodness. Someone may respond when they see, for example, a dear burnt alive in a forest that they formed the belief this was an instance of gratuitous evil via BFM means #1 (non-inferentially) and thus they are justified to hold this belief in the absence of a defeater. I again would respond that I don't think it is very likely such a BFM is in an epistemically reliable place to form this belief; but I won't go into detail on this. Rather I will grant it and say: since I allow for the possibility that there are instances of gratuitous evil (though overall there is a greater good) then maybe you are forming a correct belief about that instance of it. However, that would not mean you have good reason to know that every instance in sum total does not ultimately lead to a greater good than had none of these instances existed. Thus this rebuts P2 of argument 2 and therefore the argument is not sound and the conclusion does not obtain.

I take it then that you're continually giving money to starving and suffering people in Africa, and working in soup kitchens in town in your spare time, helping the homeless. If you're not, then don't accuse God of allowing suffering, when you could be teaching Him what He's supposed to be doing by your Godly example. PS: Typing on your keyboard in cyberspace doesn't count for charity.

Thank you Jacko, for reaching out. It breaks my heart to hear this. That the people you considered brothers and sisters to have let you down. But I'm not completely dismayed, because I know someone who is trying to get your attention. I might not experience exactly what you are going through, not because I have ppl where I am, but because I saw the only one who was and is here. Let me tell you about mine first. Through hardships, torment and unspeakable loneliness, there was another In the fire. And I can't tell you the thing it does to my soul to know I've been granted to see the other in the fire and waters. It took my isolation to understand it, it took my loneliness to realize I am not. I love you so so so much more than you can imagine tho I've never seen you , because of the love my Jesus has for you. You are never alone. Neverrr. I don't know if I can emphasize this much better. But I tell you from every experience and moments in my life. I am miles and miles away from you. But Jesus.... Oh Jesus is.. Closer than your own breath. God has come that close and you're not consumed. I urge you with all my might, all my being to turn to him and say I wanna see you I want to feel and know you are here. I just can't take this anymore. He is close to the broken hearted and weak in spirit. Fall before him and cry yourself out .. Because I now see him with me and know it with every part of my being, wouldn't you want to also have that? Wouldn't you want to demand a closer relationship with him? Then ask and demand from him, that he grants you to see and know his closeness. I love you so much, but his love.. Oh his love is one that cannot be comprehended. There is more to following God than going to church. It goes beyond the physical. Yes people fail you, but Christians are not the starter of your faith. The pioneer and perfecter of our faith is Jesus. And he is beyond some letter in a book. He wants to be your soul friend, the one you lean on and cry your heart out to. The one you hold hands with while closing your eyes and walk on a tight rope. I can't explain to you enough how much he wants to be with you, like how you would spend time with a human. Chatting away into the night till dawn, while he immerses your soul with his presence that words are not created for to describe. It's beyond what I can tell you to have that with Jesus, just as you want more of him he wants more of you. For you to seek to talk to God than sit in unproductive conversation with ppl. Read the bible while you are in prayer, let it not be just you who speaks. I know you said you love the lord. So now go to the next step. You remember that woman who loved her man in song of songs? She was head over heels, but when he came to her door the night she got all cleaned up and ready for bed, she said " how can I go out again?" It was a long process so she didn't want to do it again. Finally when her man poked his finger through the door, she realized she should open for him, but he was long gone. We can love someone so dearly, but what we do with that love is the fruit of it. Desperately seek his face, especially in this lockdown. Where it can only be you two. I'll pray that he puts It in my heart I pray for you everyday. I would love to hear from you.... But he died so he could hear from you. Lots of unfailing love to you.

@@isalme6557 Dearest Isal Me, you cannot believe HOW much your words have blessed me. I am in tears. You are a wonderful human being to take time to write this to me. You clearly understand pain and suffering. Thank you so, so much. I am just back from a long walk with the Lord. I just walked and walked and walked and now I came home to your beautiful words. Wow!!!!!!!!! Speechless.

@@jackomile1838 And I am more blessed to know the same spirit that dwells in us moved and touched our hearts. May God bless you abundantly according to his infinite riches. Until we see each other face to face in our father's rest, where there is no more suffering, be strengthened in Christ. Love you.

@@jackomile1838 I really understand you bro, during lockdown i doubed Gods existence because of many trials, i´ve struggled with many things, so many including loneliness during that time. Im still alone in some sense, but i trust Jesus over all. I know it´s painfull to carry on, that there are so many dark nights, deep valleys, but be sure, dear brother, son of God, He is with you. Don´t let this bad arguments to convince you from the contrary. Christian apologetics have good responses, but overall, you have a Great God ready to help you, that knows suffering, you are not forgotten to him, you are forgiven, because he is LOVE. Don´t be afraid to be sincere, just express yourself and try to engage online with good christians. join a community or something like that and be in contact with mature christians, just look for them, ask God to give you friends. I really know what you feel... i still struggling with that kind of thoughts, many suffering in such a short period of time, but even so, i carry on. Withouth God´s existence, life has no sense, universe neither. Take my advice, look for internet friends, christians, and there´s no problem if you have felt better love in non-christians, because God´s grace reach anybody, even the non-christians. Remember how Rahab, not being jew, helped the Israelites in Jericho. I really hope you find peace during your struggling, your loneliness and your painfull nights, Jesus is there, bro, trust him, look for help and don´t let your hear die alone. You can contact me if you want. My email is nhlfabrizio@gmail.com God bless you, youre not alone, trust me.

Same here. I've learnt to help myself during the pandemic. Parents and relatives so called Christians are nowhere to be found. Lol

I can relate about the part of feeling fear for your family going to their graves thinking you are eternally damned for no longer believing. My parents were divorced since I was 2 years old, but when my dad died, my mom expressed doubt that he went to heaven, and implied that he went to hell. I couldn't believe how insensitive that was... It was the first time I had experienced bereavement of someone I knew from my immediate family. My dad wasn't a good person or a good father, but he had experienced a lot of trauma and poverty in his life since his childhood, so I gave him grace. After that, I worried that if I were to die unexpectedly, my mom would legitimately think I went to hell. And I don't want her to think that or be troubled by that thought, so I figured I could just hide my new agnostic belief system from her. But when you think about it, if she chooses to believe so rigidly about the fate of someone's soul including mine, that's her problem... I'll be dead, chillin🤣

We can say these things about every religion, apart from islam, which borrows its spiritual language and prophets from the bible. There no books of religion worthy to consider, are there even any books appropriate for the occasion. If you want evidence of the bible you have to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal things to you, as i did.

these days i try my best to stay AWAY from them it's best for my sanity

@Madi Stevens I don't know if you'll read this, but... Back around 2013 God asked me to finish a story I wrote about a witch who defects from a cult, and has to save her son from said cult. I asked why he wanted this of me, and he implied that the themes I accidentally wove into the story about having faith oneself, and the main character's growth throughout the story might resonate with some people. And you might be one such person. I also understand your uncertainty, as I share it to a degree. Because you think I trusted the notion God gave me, you'd be wrong. Because I had to endure having my geeky hobbies demonized in the 90s and early 2000s. So the idea of writing a story about a witch saving her son, or a demon gaining eternal salvation(which is a long story...) eats at me. It got so bad I sacrificed my love of writing and creativity on the alter of religion. I'm working to get it back, and ma'am, by pure coincidence, you helped me in achieving that end.

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This statement is a complete misunderstanding of Christian doctrine. Hell is not a place for Christians even if they commit sin. Christian doctrine teaches their sins are forgiven by faith in Christ and His sacrifice and resurrection. So for the Christian there is no need to use hell to force them to do anything. They are already forgiven. They are advised to live according to christian values revealed in the word. For unbelievers is another story. It will be a place of separation from God which they have already chosen by their free will. If during your life you didn't want to belong to God it is fair that in the afterlife you will be separated from a God you didn't want to have in life .

The consequences of Christian theology is that people have treated each other with more respect than they ever have in the history of humanity

@@nick_castelli hmm. I see very little respect much less love, compassion and empathy. Perhaps u live in a utopia I just don't see.

@@iwnunn7999 are you saying that to me? Or just to Christians in general?

@@iwnunn7999 well humans are evil. the Christian walk is that difficult that you see people fail at it constantly. but God is the judge, not humans. if church members were perfect then every church would be its own perfect God. humans are corrupt and will always be corrupt. do not let church be the arbiters of truth and judgement. just stand before God in your prayer, in his presence and you will know everything about your worth and you won't like it, but he will RESTORE you.

And future generations 😎

Me too❤

For philosophical reasons like yours, I too became a born-again atheist after some 20 years of being a Sunday School teacher, lay preacher and deacon.

@@stchew49 born again atheist ? Have you any clue what born agin is ?

@@mrafard Obviously these people do not understand what born again means, neither are they born again. To be born again is an eternal spiritual regeneration which cannot be reversed. In fact anyone that genuinely is born again would never have any true natural desire to leave the faith as far as I know. Going to a church building on Sunday in your Sunday best and sticking a bunch of money in a jar for some crooked, fake state licensed fool who insists on being addressed as "Pastor" has no basis in scripture. The only people that leave Christianity are those that never actually were Christians. Most of those were church attendees not Christians! Wake up time folks, the devil is working overtime to deceive. "Except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish" Luke 3:13 KJV God's judgment is coming, Jesus warned about deception like this video in the days before the false, imposter Christ takes control of the planet.

That's the one! The Epicurus Dilemma. Thank you!

Are you a puppet or a being, if he controlled you, you would be a puppet, if not your a being, if beings are evil it's not God it's the beings. Hmmmm?

U should be a Christian

Hi! The truth is, we do not know God’s reasons for everything, we can only have theories about that topic. I do now know exactly why God allows evil to happen, but i know that most evil thing are made/caused by man (not all, diseases, cancer, natural disasters etc. Are not, i get that) and we do not see what God prevents, only what He does not. Sometimes we can, but in other words, i mean: We can’t know, right know He may prevented somebody to get in a car crash, or He might didn’t let the devil do something. There are things we can not know, because He may doesn’t let it happen, prevents before we know it will happen. We only see what He does allow, but we can’t see what He doesn’t. His ways are higher than our ways, i do now know His reasons, but i trust Him.

@@dorkailles7780 ahhhhhh the age old argument of "Whatever I can't explain must mean there's a God". That's the same mentality as the goat herders who wrote that book.

I studied the Bible for three years in college and many more before that, so I feel you! If you ever want to discuss what you learned you can shoot me an email at jcriley@protonmail.com!

@@meerkatsk5170 if you did

@@meerkatsk5170 can you show it to be true

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@Flipside Thank you for bluntly telling us you wanted to : *know God intellectually* . I mean yes it was very right of you to seek for "truth s" but... Did you ask or question about them. The reason I say this is that, when you ask something it's either when you want to receive something or are curious to know. But questioning on the other hand, somehow in this context seems to defy. It might not be your case but if you ask anyone who claimed they searched for truth, you'll realize it was questioning the authority over their lives and wanting to be "free" from it. Like freely sinning without having the *guilt consciousness*. And since you said you studied the bible, I'm sure you are familiar with the passage that talks about how God chose the most "foolish" things of earth so that he can prove vain the "intellect" of the "wise". That his foolish looking doing is the height of human " intelligence ". God also rejects the proud and is close to the humble. So what happened when you came across that? But let me ask you this.. What would it have taken for you to believe in God? Vision? Unwavering prophecy about past,present and future? Seeing Demons? Miracles? Or The bible making sense in your mind? You find believing in God rational enough? You find God when you reach a very high IQ? But a million dollar question.. Even if you found out God is, would you want to give your life to him? If so, why?

Hey! how are you doing

same

what does "pagan" even mean? There's a plethora of pagan religions out there.

@@2fast2block Doesn't the "good book" teach you to be loving?

@@2fast2block @2fast2block This has some holes in it. Scientifically we can only look back as far as moments before the big bang. Before that science doesn't do anything for us as there are no observations to work with. "If there was something there, it must fit the evidence of what we know" We can't assume that the properties of the universe apply to whatever process, or lack there of, created the universe. This is a composition fallacy. The observations we have are all of the universe. When talking about the process or entity that created the universe, the properties the universe has are not relevant. Within the universe energy can not be created or destroyed, this doesn't mean the process / entity that created the universe (provided there was a process / creator) would work the same way. Why would the "rules of the universe" apply to processes / things that are not the universe, necessarily? Whatever the answer to why something exists, rather than nothing, the answer is likely going to be some combination of incredibly odd, counter intuitive, complicated, surprising, maybe seemingly impossible, unknowable. The idea of a universe springing from non existence seems ridiculous. The idea of a universe cycling between states infinitely seems ridiculous. The idea of a an all powerful infinite being seems ridiculous. Every one of these explanations involves concepts for which we have never found an analogue in reality. The answer might be something beyond these 3 that we simply have not been able to conceptualise yet, and might never be able to conceptualise. Adding an all powerful being does not solve the issue of why anything exist, we now just wonder why the god exists. It doesn't get past the fact we need to deal with some kind of infinite as the god, I would assume, is believed the exist infinitely. If the god has not existed infinitely then we get the same issue of how the god could begin existing from non existence. These are the same problems as if we don't suggest a god. A few of our observations of the universe are so far unbroken. The basis of logic, identity, non contradiction and excluded middle are examples. All of these are concluded because without exception we observe the universe functioning this way. But once again, given that these are observations of the universe, not of a process / entity that created it, we can't tell if even this would hold external / prior / separate from the universe. True also of cause and effect. We observe that this is how the universe functions. But it doesn't follow that the process / entity that created the universe itself works this way. To argue that the answers we can think of seem ridiculous so we can conclude another answer, especially when this answer also seems ridiculous, is an argument from ignorance. For now at least, possibly for good (though hopefully not) we just don't actually have any real idea or evidence to help us demonstrate why a universe exists. We know there was an incredibly small dense point that began to expand very rapidly. We don't know if that point always existed, was created by a process, was created by an entity, was just a different phase in part of a cyclical process, literally sprang into existence from non existence or something else. The only thing so far that science has ruled out, and even this is tentative, is the idea of an unchanging universe that stays in pretty much the same fixed state. indefinitely. Science fiction, religions and so on that go beyond this are speculation. They are based on many things, fantasy, tradition, drug trips, social cohesion, a need for answers, human curiosity, cognitive biases, need for closure, indoctrination, actual historical events and so on. But one of the things they are not based on when it comes to questions of cause, is direct observation. People have religious experiences but different people have different experiences, and under different sects, and different religions. How would we tell which experiences are accurate and which are delusional? Given that many religions are mutually exclusive we know that most believers think that most believers of other religions are deluded, deceived, wrong, lying, mistaken. It's possible that they are right, but that this is also true of their own belief. Science doesn't provided support for a god, it doesn't rule a god out either.

Thanks for watching. Yes, seems to be in the waters these days. A lot of people in my life have deconstructed/deconverted as well.

Its okay to feel down cast sometimes, i feel it too. Spirituality motivates me to keep jogging on. Without faith there is no true success. This is why a lot of people commit suicide despite having all the success in the world. True success comes through spirituality through the Holy Spirit.

Go back to church, and give God another chance, pray for the Holy Spirit this time, and work on the Holy Spirit and receiving Him.

1 Corinthians 2:14, "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." The point made in this verse is crucial in our understanding of spiritualty, and how to interact with the non-believing world. In short, non-believers cannot be expected to think, or to act, like believers. The problem is not intellectual or moral; reason and evidence point towards God (Psalm 19:1; Romans 1:18-23). The key difference is spiritual: those who are not guided by the Holy Spirit, thanks to faith in Christ, simply lack a godly spiritual perspective. The only way to be believe the truths of God, including His plan for salvation through faith in Christ, is for God to communicate those truths through His Holy Spirit. Paul's work is to help people who have been given that spiritual ability to believe to understand what it means, but he knows that he cannot make anyone believe it. Intellectual knowledge and human reason cannot produce faith-at best, they can only impart facts (James 2:19). Now Paul shows the negative. Those without God's Spirit cannot possibly "get it." God's truths must be understood and believed on a spiritual level. Those without God's Spirit don't have that level, Paul insists. Like a radio, television, or microphone tuned to the wrong signal, they are literally incapable of receiving that message.So the natural person rejects as foolish anything that comes from the Spirit of God. Those who have only their human senses and human reason will never be able to comprehend the spiritual truths of God's revelation about sin, salvation, and Christ to His people. It's unreasonable to expect non-believers to process spiritual issues in the same way as believers. It's impossible to expect them to have the "mind of Christ" (1 Corinthians 2:16) when they don't have the Spirit of God.

Christianity is the ONLY religion in the world that can be proven....yes proven.....study the prophecies....they will show you the authority of the Bible and why you can believe what it says.....try it before you give up....God exists....we came from somewhere.

Glad the video was helpful! Don't let any of your Christian friends and family get you down because of your beliefs. Your beliefs and doubts are valid.

@@skepticallyskeptical6495 Thanks

Psalm 22

There is no shame in believing in something different, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you was my son i would still love you and pray for you. I wish you all the best in life. I believe that life is hard enough with faith, without faith life is even harder, i know because i used to be a sceptic myself. My family members do not believe in God, i am the only one that truly believes.

Just remember that faith is individual, what you are going to say at judgement is that your family members were christian. You are going to go on your past experiences, and think its enough to impress Jesus. What matters is dying a true believer and not just believing at one point.

Ur walking onto the road of hell. You can still turn back

@@Kenmpachii How can you say that. Then there must be a lot of fake so called church going Christians walking onto the road of hell too.

oh you unknowingly give into the strategies of the demonic realms upon humanity..

Instead of getting angry with God, Get angry with the devil hes the cause of all evil. God is a refiners fire. It means his teachings and persona will either encourage us and make us spiritually strong or it it will make us be deterred and become weak. The word divides soul and spirit. It means that the word will separate the believer from the non believer. Not everyone who believes at first will always believe, the bible says that will happen.

@Greg Letter You have not been reading your bible and studying things. The answers to what your saying is in the bible. Lack of understanding and knowledge has caused you to think like this.

As an atheist there is no solution the only solution is grin and bear it. As a christian its believed that through prayer and actions you could overcome it, and repel it from your life.

I am not sure I would call it depression from a clinical view but I certainly had a huge existential crisis, and a lot of pain and suffering from my journey into no longer believing. When your very identity is built around this religion, your social acceptance, your ways of thinking, every last thing about you and you relationship with others in some way comes back to the religion it can be a very hard thing losing that. When the illusion breaks it can be devastating. The one being (God) who you loved more than life itself is gone, it is not easy it is like a divorce or a death of the self. It was one of the most taxing and traumatic moments of my life and it took years before I even accepted it fully. God as I knew is not and cannot be real and I devoted so many years of my life to this, I loved this simulacrum I had created and it turns out it isn't even real. The heart aches for quite a while as it needs to grieve the death of the simulacrum. But there is a brightness and beauty to life when you are free of the bonds of lies and can look at life on its own terms. One thing Jesus supposedly said which I do agree with, "The truth shall set you free".

@@skwozies3083 exactly, also ...seek and you will find .... I left after 60 years of indoctrination brainwashing, it was as you described, but now after being out for a few years, I am seeing just how beautiful life really is without the all encompassing slavery of Christianity, I truly believe that those who were heavily involved in christianity and are now out are the ones that are truly Free . We can calmly see life for what it really is, I no longer judge people but now see people for who they are instead of who I want them to be, I'm no longer seeing people as prospects and projects, life is just what it is and I am just who I am , in fact " I am the great I AM "

Best wishes to you, Olivia. I deconverted about 5 yrs ago after being a Christian for over 40 years. Happier now, guilt-free now, and I never cared for ppl as much as I do now, when I was a Christian. You're welcome to hit me up if you want to talk.

I totally get it. So scary. I'm still partially in the closet. I've been surprised though, by the people who still accept me. Just remember if they reject you for your believes they never really loved you for you, and there is a huge would out there with people who WILL love you. Best of luck to you.

I know I’m 1 month late but if I were you I wouldn’t tell them why give up your friends if you don’t have to

First rule about deconversion, try to expand you circle of friends to people out of religion, so that you can gradually leave without any emotional commitment. Christianity is designed for you to be emotionally dependent on your Christian circle. Its all psychological manipulation.

how are you doing?

Thanks for the comment, Dakota. Yeah, I just want to be open and honest about my beliefs and where I stand. I hope it creates discussions and makes people think about what they believe.

Skeptically Skeptical too many people never bother to ask why, that’s the best part of life!

I like your explanation and thinking.

Its good to be free, i believe in the freedom to discover things. We should include God, always. Doing what YOU want is a problem because the bible says if we are not following Christ and living for him, we are not worthy of him. He only saves those that give their lives for him. God appreciates people that love and follow Jesus. The bible also says that.

Its good to do what you want but its more important to do what God wants, because what God wants is really what we would want.

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WOWW... plz dnt talk like that. Hell is a real place. Have a relationship with Jesus. Believe the gospel He loves you and died for you on the cross. Eternal life is the greatest gift from God which no amount of Money can buy.

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@@tamiwatchesstuff no its not. Hell is a state of mind true love wouldnt condition your eternity

You don't know what you're saying. These bad people you met, if they end up in Heaven, will be there in a perfected state and they will not have these flaws you remember. Meanwhile Hell is eternal destruction.

@@meerkatsk5170 it is not true, see the video I pasted in the comment below.

@@meerkatsk5170 absolutely no. Grab a bible , pen and paper click the link I posted . Watch, write the verses mentioned in the video and compare and deduce. From there you can decide whether the bible is legit. That's all that needs to be said.

@@man-yp1gb can you link your video? I've been through most of the comments at this point but haven't come across it yet

Yeah, seems the more study people do, the more inaccurate and contradicting people find it to be.

My brother's friend is in that boat. There are no contradictions but different insights. Remember that it says in the word that a person killed Saul (Book of 2 Samuel) and told David and it also says somewhere else (Book of 1 Samuel )that Saul killed himself. What happened was Saul tried to kill himself but would not die, so a person killed Saul and went to King David with his crown and confessed he killed Saul. David had the man who killed Saul, killed and David then lamented over Saul.

Thank you so much!! It was definitely a tough journey.

No ur wrong dumb ass

@@skepticallyskeptical6495 Brother, have you ever read the Quran?

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@@rizwanrafeek3811 it isn't anything better

I am catholic but as a scientist inhsve a real problem with the bible church creationist theory and that first man Adam and the world and universe os 6000 years old when its been dated to actually billions of years old and ancient human bones and fossils are dated to be much older. Not to mention what the Nag hammedi texts say

Thanks, friend. I appreciate comments like this more than you know. It really motivates me to make more videos knowing that people enjoy the content. Hope you stick around for future videos!!

@@skepticallyskeptical6495 Yeah man. You definitely have what it takes to become really big on RU-vid. I shared your video with somebody and they agreed. KEEP IT UP!!!

@@marlinperry4250 thanks so much for the love and sharing the video ❤️❤️ hope to see you two stick around and share your thoughts on videos. If you have any video ideas you'd like to see just let me know!!

Please do not make more.

You're still faith. Lmao

I left Christianity behind me eight months ago. I left it because it just stopped making sense to me. That was best the decision I have ever made.

@@j.jmilan551 It only appears that way in the flesh bc the enemy got to your mind..they have many deceptions to pull people away from the truth and light of Jesus..

Thanks so much for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness/(okayness) as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas

Funny thing, the genocide in the OT was all Jews. A completely different religion. Of course Christians don't see it that way. For the "what-ifs?", I realized a long time ago that if the Christian God was real, and sin is so serious, why would he be obligated to save you JUST BECAUSE YOU ASK HIM TO? This is really just an attempt to manipulate God. A loving God would look at our hearts and values, not our doctrine.

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Amen!

@ chikita evans :)

100 correct, this young man is missing the point of a direct relationship with Christ not based on emotional feelings of other Christians..

This man never mentioned Jesus when the Bible is based on him.

how's your day going

@@jesuslovesyouandiloveyouto7627 save it man...😎

@@charity6372 what do you mean? did i do anything? i was just asking how your day way, if i said anything please lmk(let me know)

@@jesuslovesyouandiloveyouto7627 I think he thought you would try to convert him by quoting Bible quotes.

Thanks so much!

What? When did Christianity say that only God can judge? The final judgment is up to God, but it doesn't mean that we cannot make our own judgements. Are you sure you're an ordained minister? Someone with such a high position should know better than to make such a blunder.

​@@baldwinthefourth4098I think somewhere in Revelation it says that in the end many will fall away from the faith of Jesus Christ.This video I think shows that :( That makes me sad.

church is full of flawed people. iono why people act like Christians are God. God is God. not humans. it's simple. but here you are now judging every church goer lol

Evil is the devil, Good is God. It couldnt be more simple to understand.

Christianity is the ONLY religion in the world that can be proven....yes proven.....study the prophecies....they will show you the authority of the Bible and why you can believe what it says.....try it before you give up....God exists....we came from somewhere.

@@markduncan8227 wow......u are so far lost...................enjoy hell...............i pray for your soul......im sorry for you

@Emily Kell A prayer is nothing more than a good thought. And it feels both nice and comforting to know that people are thinking of us and wants us well. It's an act that is nice in itself, even if there is not a "God" answering it. P.S. Sending you warm thoughts and love!

I might know who you are referring to. lol I believe the same as you.

You're literally being that person

@Cage Stage Calvinist here's a message from me to you there's no such thing as a hell or heaven

How's are you doing

@@jesuslovesyouandiloveyouto7627 Well I’ve told my gf and she didn’t leave me (yet at least). My family still doesn’t know. My depression has gotten better actually, I’ve been able to sleep better and have less toxic thoughts.

@@mikkoruuska2018 I'm glad you are having less toxic thoughts! and i know this is gonna sound so werid but i am here for you! even though i don't know you! I just wanna say that I'm thankful and grateful for you! You are loved by JESUS he has always loved you. He cares about you and always has. And he will always be there for you. I love you! JESUS loves you more !

@@jesuslovesyouandiloveyouto7627 Yeah thanks I suppose. Right now I feel very peaceful and I don’t think I can be a christian anymore. People like you are great tho!

@@mikkoruuska2018 I'm glad you feel peaceful!! and aww thank you

Amen 👍

No they are all in your head. Human brain is capable of crazy spiritual experiences/hallucinations. You can create similar experiences with other religions. And experiences/feelings shouldn’t be the arbiter of truth. I found it the hardway. Ex christian for 10 years.

Do not judge people

@@BearFruit90 just let him be the more I have grown up as an atheist I feel like you should just let them believe what they want.

Maybe your experience of god legitimate. But that doesn't mean the bible is true in every way. Seperate the experience from what other people tell you it means.......

Anna M. What you pointed out for sure. The fact that the god of the Bible is downright cruel. Friends and family telling me that I have to take everything literally or I’m not a true Christian...like the ark story, for example. Apologists getting caught in lie after lie as far as the science goes. If it’s true, why misquote the science? Why misrepresent the evidence? In short, creationist conmen. No evidence for the captivity or the exodus. Borrowed stories from Sumerian/Zoroastrian traditions. Talking snakes and donkeys. The fact that having belief seems to have zero effect on how good of a person you are (see jerry Falwell jr). So many things and I just stepped back from it and took a fresh look and it all just became absurd. It looked a lot like mythology. There ya go. We could talk about it all day, I suppose, but that’s a few things.

Anna M. You’re welcome. I have degrees in biology and geology so the science denialism really sticks in my craw 😀. So you read a book written by goat herders and have the audacity to insinuate that I wasted my life? F you. 😂😂😂

Your basis for believing in God had no foundation. Its a shame. I am only 33, but i have my foundation, its the teachings of Jesus. The persona is good but true foundation is based on the teaching, and doing certain things for spiritual growth.

@@2fast2block glad I don’t have to get triggered when someone doesn’t share my same mythology. Lol science is good like that. It doesn’t have feelings.

@@2fast2block the HONEST answer is we don’t know. But trying to come up with answers is the reason the mythology and religion exist in the first place. Many people are afraid of not knowing.

By the small leap of faith in Jesus you find meaning and belonging, immediate goods, but later a war on all evidence based reality that denies your comfort and, for some reason intrinsic, a war on democracy.

i've never felt so alone and judged while going to church. it does not feel like a community to me

Nonsense

@@jamesparson your a fool

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I agree!

I think for myself but I still have a strong belief in God or some higher power I called it just spirituality and meditation

According to the bible, Jesus sets people free from spiritual bondage. We are only free when we decide to leave constant sinning behind and embrace God. Do you want to be free to make bad choices, without God and morals we will always make bad choices.

Are you free though. Freedom is to not conform to this world but be free from sinning which leads to physical and spiritual death. What are you free from that you cannot be free from as a believer. What you want to lust after men, or have lots of sex. God says get married and i believe that, because its best to have love and partnership with the person having sex with. I just gave the best example, to the best form of "freedom"

@@joshuamartinpryce8424 bro Shutup. We don't want to FUCKING Kill people. Omg stop

Sounds good. Keep the faith.

Jesus is probably a safe bet compared to the rest of the Bible. 🤗 I still believe in Jesus. I just no longer allow myself to be manipulated by fear of exclusion from the "body of Christ". Jesus taught the exact opposite of that.

Keep the faith! Jesus loves you... keep that relationship with Him, even if you aren't a "Religious" person.

IMHO your life should be based around you not an abstract person.

So sad. I truly hope that one day you are able to break the shackles of religion and magical thinking. Best to you.

Gee-zuz! Though Anglicanism allows for non-belief in God.

Liar

@@sheinthecomments187 you are a believer so you have to believe me ... as you believe in your fictional god. i also know a german monk who lived in the monastery for years ... the more he read the bible, the more he became an atheist ..... my advice read all the bible, including the old testament and the books of moses .. the greatest enemy of religion is science and education and these will also accelerate the decline ... never forget, there are 1000 religions and you are also an atheist in 999

This is extremely interesting, I'd love to meet him. Thank you for sharing.

@@EzraB123 Unfortunately, I don't have his address, he was only here for his vacation, I met him on the beach for two days in a row, a beach lounger has confirmed to me that he has been here for a month for around 15 years. He also knew that he was works as a priest in his home country. at first i had doubts, he told me he lived in germany in lower bavaria and looks after 3 parishes there. he had studied in würzburg in the kilianeum ... i have no doubts about his statements ... if he is a liar then to his community sheep

This.

Meerkat SK5 well if a guy who basically detonated his whole life to Christ. Planning on being a pasture, went to college to study the Bible can’t prove it , I don’t think you can

I do not say just pray but take action too.

When I was short of my 4th birthday, my Christian father told me about Santa Claus. When I asserted that there could be no such thing, he beat me down like a sailor in a bar fight. His Christian mother then told him to throw me out of the house, because those inside the cult cannot associate with unbelievers. You can imagine how I feel about Christians. I have since read their book through in the original languages; Santa Claus isn't in there anywhere...

your name is caleb. live up your biblical name and stop being a soyboy democrat jeez

I watched your video about your deconversion and it was really good as well! Yeah, I definitely miss some things from religion. I miss spirituality, which I'm starting to discover within atheism. I also miss the community aspect as well. I would most certainly consider attending a liberal church as an atheist for the community, but there are no liberal churches where I live. Also, you should look into The Liturgists community if you haven't already. It is an entire community of people who are very liberal Christians, spiritual people, atheists, etc. They have a community where people can talk on Mastodon which is sort of like Twitter.

@@skepticallyskeptical6495 Yeah, I've listen to The Liturgists and I'm made some friends from that community, I just try not fully fall for their resources, community and stuff only because I don't want to get back in a hole of "yeah! we are the best and the only one who know what's up" you know? lol but Thanks for the recommendation and thanks for watching. I'm looking forward to learn more from you.

Its not about being in the community. Members in my church hate me because they are envious of my spiritual state. I am saying it as a humble man. I care about people. People should not matter, but God should, because believe me people will always offend us and let us down from time to time.

Christianity is the ONLY religion in the world that can be proven....yes proven.....study the prophecies....they will show you the authority of the Bible and why you can believe what it says.....try it before you give up....God exists....we came from somewhere.

@Joel Som shut up crazy dude

No one will laugh at you once you're in heaven.

Try to encourage people with what jesus taught when we try to go about christianity in our own way and don't educate why god did what he did and the evidence of the authentication of the bible we get confused people like this.

How have you been able to confirm this?

@@kaitlinmontgomery2750 He hasn’t

@@Worick_ I'm not really looking to confirm my own agenda. I want to know how everyone discovered their truth... what justifies them to believe in what they do. I'm interested in finding out Truth and not my own agenda. I believe Christianity is a load of crap but at the same time am willing to hear someone's story. Thus far no one in the Christian community has been able to provide ANY proof of validity to their beliefs; its embarrassing. "Because it's in the Bible" is NOT proof lmao.

@@2fast2block What are you on about? I don't make any claims about the state of our world or how it was created. all of the bυllshit your spewing doesn't affect me or my beliefs

Religion is not a relationship. A relationship with Jesus count.

atheism is the definition of a beta male.

I can look into making a video about hell. If it makes you feel any better, the modern idea of hell wasn't a concept until Christianity. The Old Testament concept of the afterlife is Sheol, which is just a sleeping place for dead people essentially. In other words, hell was just made up later on.

Skeptically Skeptical yes please, ive looked into the original concept, I’m a big linguist and the original description of hell in Biblical Hebrew was “ Gehenna “ which WAS a REAL place it was a valley that or “ pit” in Jerusalem, where they would burn garbage and the “ wicked “ and “possessed “ people ( epileptics) , I’m feeling better about it now but my anxiety was at an all time high about it when the covid started and my family and family friends ( all Christians) told me it was the rapture... illogical I know but they really still the fear into you , thanks again

There is no need for that, there is tons of videos about personal perspectives on hell. If it exists it is bad to know. At the end of the day, what matters most is not coming to God because you are afraid but because you want him in your life and to have a partnership with God. Giving yourself to him and he gives you the support you need, and talks through his word.

@@joshuamartinpryce1237 yeah BUT the fear of the Lord is also the beginning of wisdom/understanding...

@@dylanheraid4611 Think about it this way: If there is a God and he has created you. Do you honestly think that he wants to torture you forever and ever? I think hell was something that the church people invented a couple of hundred years b.c. Just to scare people and control them. I hate the doctrine of hell. I really hate it. Its unbelievible that most christians believe in this sick stuff. Their kind of God is worse then a tyrant or a dictator.

The Old Testament does not approve of the things you listed. What the Old Testament does do is tell a story with all the sordid details, which makes the point that all people are sinners in need of a Savior.

@@Lifecoach4life Amen! Gives me hope knowing that God's grace is sufficient to save my soul based on what my Savior has done.

Thanks for watching!! Yep, it just takes some serious scholarly studying, and a willingness to be open to change.

The bible has no contradictions, the disciples all saw the same things but they had different insights and perspectives. For example, the the two angels, and the one angel thing, when they went to the tomb of "dead" Jesus. Remember that one disciple went into the tomb and the other disciple was by the door he didnt go all the way inside, so they would of had different insights. I could go on, but the point is perspective and insight.

​@joshuamartinpryce1237 😂😂😂🤣🤦‍♀️

I do not believe in deceit but susceptibility.

Christianity is the ONLY religion in the world that can be proven....yes proven.....study the prophecies....they will show you the authority of the Bible and why you can believe what it says.....try it before you give up....God exists....we came from somewhere.

@@carybaker7334 Sorry, but you sound drunk.

Yes, it's sometimes quite frustrating when people make that assumption. I never had a bad church experience, and still very much love and spend time with my Christian friends. I left Christianity for purely logical reasons.

These are sound reasons, if the person, does not work on spiritual growth and does not read the bible often. The things is we can read the bible like stories or we can read the bible as a book of faith. Reading the bible like stories does nothing, but reading the bible as a book of faith is totally different. Its all about context.

Christianity is the ONLY religion in the world that can be proven....yes proven.....study the prophecies....they will show you the authority of the Bible and why you can believe what it says.....try it before you give up....God exists....we came from somewhere.

So you believe in 100s of man made Gods. That is what they are man made. The christian Triune God only makes sense to spiritual people. Hindus do not have a book of grace, or personality or simplistic complexity as the bible God has.

That part was hilarious

Yes. You are right. It's a guess, a hypothesis a crack at providing some form of explanation.

*I just Googled it because I thought the same as you...unfortunately, scientists have finally managed to change the meaning!* _"In everyday use, the word "theory" often means an untested hunch, or a guess without supporting evidence. But for scientists, a theory has nearly the opposite meaning. A theory is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can incorporate laws, hypotheses and facts."_ *Just another lie to confuse people. Christians know better!*

@@brendatajik6150 Ok so are you blaiming your lack of academic science education? How do you learn new stuff and grow if all new info is "lies"? just because the popcultural usage of the word "Theory" is different than the scientific usage? What about something being so good its "bad" or something so awesome, its "sick"? What about when your medical tests come back "negative", does that mean its bad? Why are you using fuzzy pop cultural definitions of words as the standard? It has been well established for hundreds of years that the scientific definition of theory is different than popcultures usage. A scientific theory explains a wide range of seemingly unrelated phenomenon (Gravity theory/Germ theory). If you want to overturn a theory, you need to explain an even wider range of (seemingly) unrelated phenomena and also have more precise Predictive Powers of future observations of (seemingly) unrelated phenomena. An example would be Gravity Theory and its Predicitive Powers explaining everything (seemingly) unrelated to each other; planet formations, supernova, black holes, orbits, earth quakes, the dynamical motions of geo physical forces, landslides, etc etc etc. Germ Theory and its Predicitive Powers, discovered at a time when noone realized causes of diseases and illness were caused by invisible germs that has universal predicitive qualities. Germ Theory (and its 4 principles) were able to explain a wide range of (seemingly) unrelated phenomenon, and its able to predict the future.

@@jdewey100 nice answer, when theory is applied in science it's actually a high accolade not when we use 'theory' in ordinary conversation.

Thank you very much!!

It did though. None of my professors were young earth creationists. They all taught evolution as true and Genesis as allegorical.

@@skepticallyskeptical6495 So they had no problem reconciling evolution and Genesis, but you did? To be fair I've now watched the whole video and this is just one of the reasons. I just don't think it is a particularly good one. So many deconstructions I've heard over the last 15 years or so that I have been involved in apologetics seem to be people deconstructing from some form of fundamentalism (and that includes you). This always sounds like throwing the baby out of with the bathwater.

how's ur day going?

Thank you for watching!

2fast2block just because science doesn’t know all the answers doesn’t mean god. That’s a big assumption

@@2fast2block you really expect science to have all the answers to the universe already? We only managed to invent the Internet 35 years ago so id say hold your horses amigo.. And if you're so well versed in science im sure you alreqsy know there's actually a lot more evidence in science to suggest the universe is actually a computer simulation rather than supernaturally created.. So if your debate is running on 'what science says' your logic doesn't add up..

Glad you had similar thoughts! Thanks for the comment!

But the problem is you should of asked around on thoughts first. You could of emailed a specialist on the subjects you have doubts about.

@@joshuamartinpryce8424 let's play,: how many assumptions can you spot in the reply above?!

1 Corinthians 2:14, "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." The point made in this verse is crucial in our understanding of spiritualty, and how to interact with the non-believing world. In short, non-believers cannot be expected to think, or to act, like believers. The problem is not intellectual or moral; reason and evidence point towards God (Psalm 19:1; Romans 1:18-23). The key difference is spiritual: those who are not guided by the Holy Spirit, thanks to faith in Christ, simply lack a godly spiritual perspective. The only way to be believe the truths of God, including His plan for salvation through faith in Christ, is for God to communicate those truths through His Holy Spirit. Paul's work is to help people who have been given that spiritual ability to believe to understand what it means, but he knows that he cannot make anyone believe it. Intellectual knowledge and human reason cannot produce faith-at best, they can only impart facts (James 2:19). Now Paul shows the negative. Those without God's Spirit cannot possibly "get it." God's truths must be understood and believed on a spiritual level. Those without God's Spirit don't have that level, Paul insists. Like a radio, television, or microphone tuned to the wrong signal, they are literally incapable of receiving that message.So the natural person rejects as foolish anything that comes from the Spirit of God. Those who have only their human senses and human reason will never be able to comprehend the spiritual truths of God's revelation about sin, salvation, and Christ to His people. It's unreasonable to expect non-believers to process spiritual issues in the same way as believers. It's impossible to expect them to have the "mind of Christ" (1 Corinthians 2:16) when they don't have the Spirit of God.

​@@loveandfaithfulness4479 why is it important to you that unbeliever just "can't get it"? What would it mean if they could get it but based on good reasons, they don't believe?

If it was a product of its time explain to me how so many prophecies have come true, were they just lucky guesses. Of course there not.

@@kushdygroweruk2024 what prophecies came true? All the prophecies in the bible that I've heard people say came true were extremely vague and likely to happen. Not exactly fulfilling

@@A.B.3103 unfortunately that is the spirtit of the anti-christ undermining gods glory. Isaiha 7:14-“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Here the prophet Isaiah prophecies the birth of Jesus christ, before he was born, furthermore Mary and Isaiah never met eachother, further proving gods work. You see many prophecies have come true, alp you have to do is look at the evidence with an open heart, and repent. God bless

@@kushdygroweruk2024 I've looked at all of the "evidence" you should look up the definition of evidence. And if you still think the same your lying yo yourself

@@A.B.3103 you haven’t looked at all the evidence, you’re too ignorant to do that. Furthermore the bible is made up of thousands of ancient manuscripts, the bible is a historical book. If you bothered yourself to read the bible you would realise that for example, Jesus waswitnessed rising from the dead by: cephas, then to the twelve(search them up if you don’t know) then more than 500 brethren saw jesus after the resurrection. Don’t be ignorant this is fact.

Right...until you, your husband, mother, father or any loved one is on their death bed clinging to life...then suddenly you have a change of attitude and also are the first in the doctor's office TRYING HARD not to die. What you scared of? Give up all your meds and vaccines if it does not matter what you believe. Just step out of time and leave it at that.

Hahahahahaha that some entry level atheism you spewing there....

@@sheinthecomments187 That is quite a thing. Stepping ''out of time'' is a strange place to be in your mind....I've done it...and am doing it....I decided to dismiss and disconnect from this present world scenario before it was too late for me. I ''stepped out of time''....before I was ......OUT OF TIME !!!!........js.........

Ardently Fair I couldnt agree with you more. People acting on beliefs that can't be proved should worry us all. If it was any topic other than religion, they'd be called crazy. How can the topic even be debated when NOTHING is factual? Zero evidence to support a higher power. The best emotional argument wins. And people believe what they want and the best orator stand at the podium and wins the collection plate while a bunch of fools sit in the pews handing over their money because they are too scared to think rationally.

lmaoooo yeah right Ardently.

I think you should take it slow, God is not expecting you to be totally perfect and sinless. I think you should keep a repentant heart and a pure mind. It comes in parts over time, through prayer and fasting.