Dude, as an FK8 owner, the STi has much respect in my book and is truly a Legend in the automotive world. If I had more money, I would have definitely gotten the Sti as my second. The Best of both worlds. You did good and have nothing to prove to anyone. Enjoy and have fun man!!
Thank you! Main goal of this video was to offer my perspective. Not to bash one or the other. Ideally, if someone was on the fence about this decision like I was this might help them make theirs too
Just made the same decision. I liked the analog feel much better. I felt like I was driving the STI and the Honda felt a little too refined like it was driving me lol. I also love the millions of options for mods on the STI. The Subaru sounds a billion times better as well. Lastly the AWD was a huge plus
I am now on my third Subaru, i had a 2004 and 2012 wrx now have a 21 Sti and I have never had any issues, people think these cars come off the floor ready for the race track and wonder why they have issues. I have always treated my cars with respect and still have fun and has never let me down. Enjoy your ride man i absolutely love mine.
Wow you must be pretty easy on them, and a bit lucky imo! Just curious how many miles did the 12 WRX have because that is the least reliable of all of them?
@@germanengineering204 I hear you, It had 33000 miles on it, tbe and tune. I guess i did baby it a little never hit the rev limiter but still enjoyed it.
I’m a former Subie guy who now drives a Type R. I have a soft spot for the STI but the CTR is a beast. If you could get one without markup, it’s the better deal inside and out... but those markups are crazy and no FWD car is worth nearly 50k. That said, I got my CTR at MSRP so it was a no brainier for me. Good luck with the STI... it’s a fun car for sure... can’t wait to see what the next generation has in store!
If you drive both cars, the civic type r is a lot more fun and a lot quicker. Yes, because of awd the sti has a much better launch. How often will you launch your car though? For me personally, the 20-80mph range is where the power is most useful to me on the daily. And the type r will roast the sti there.
@@steve8803 the Type R is an overhyped Honda Civic lol. I drove a few Type R's before I bought my WRX and all of them were boring to me. Even a premium WRX like I have proved to be more fun and MUCH more reliable in the winter.
@@thatoneguy9842 your overhyped impreza is too slow for me. Hooks up great off the line, but is slow otherwise. My Si felt like a much quicker car, To each his own.
I had a Evo X for 7 years. Never once did I launch it because I didn't want to kill my clutch prematurely and didn't want to mess up the transfer case. So awd is nice. But it's also alot more expensive to maintain if you race it.
Treat your car like an old agricultural motor, such as proper warm-ups and oil changes and it will treat you right, great cars! don’t believe all the negative myths
Believe the factual accounts of bad engine design and imminent hell you'll more likely than not face. Yeah, drive the wannabe sports car like a bitch or call your local flat bed towing company.
As a CTR owner, I whole heartedly agree with your reasoning...wheels yes! Styling yes! Manual hand brake yes! Except I kinda disagree with the driving...the CTR is a driving beast, soooo much fun
Thanks for the video and really nice comparison points between a Subaru WRX STI vs. the Civic Type R. I myself bought a 2020 Type R and I'm loving it. The only things I had to get used to of course is the electronic parking brake but I would have preferred a classic handbrake instead. It does have a nice feature called brake-hold which keeps the car in place when in neutral waiting at a stoplight and/or up a hill prevent car from rolling backwards. Only downside is that you have to manual turn it on everytime before you drive-off. The only major difference that I wish the Type R had vs the STI is the AWD. I live in the Pacific NW here in Oregon and there are Subies everywhere!! The terrain, the weather, rain/snow is what calls for the Subaru to excel in these neck of the woods. I think the Type R would only be suitable in the summer when the rains are not present. The 20s and stock tires on my Type R didn't last a month until I got tired of the ride quality and decided to upgrade out of them. I did have to spend around $2300 but it was something I was planning to do on the vehicle and the changes I made created a whole lot difference in ride quality overall. I also like how the Type R has the ability to rev-match and since my manual skills are only intermediate at best and I lack the heel-toe experience that many advanced manual drivers have, driving the Subie may not have been as forgiving as the Type R. I have not test a WRX yet but I hope to sometime in the near future as the WRX sedan would be what I need for where I'm at this coming winter. On a sidenote, as many Type R owners have also experienced, after doing some extensive research, I decided to purchase my Type R out of state without first test driving it and luckily it has worked out for me thus far. Some dealerships are anal and require some commitment to buy before even allowing a test drive.
Had a FBO e85 FA WRX, walked CTR’s, Stingers, and STi’s. Now I have a slow but awesome STi. Sometimes it isn’t just about speed but everything else that makes the car what it is. And tbh feels way better than my FA. Also the 19+ STi’s have the Type RA blocks in them so they’re the better version of the EJ25 🤙🏼
@No B The 2019 WRX STI gets slightly more powerful for 2019 thanks in part to a new air intake and performance exhaust system, which bumps engine output from 305 horsepower to 310. Likewise, the four-cylinder mill receives a retuned engine control unit (ECU) and stronger pistons. The manual transmission also has a shorter third gear that Subaru says improves acceleration.
@@subie-ja8083 you are correct sir. Subaru finally put the best EJ in the American model. It’s the swan song for the EJ since 22 will be the last year of production.
Bro I had the 19 type r championship white then traded it in to 21 type r boost blue, i also have the 15 evo x final edition, but mostly owned hondas and Acura. I always love sti and id like to buy one someday. Congrats bro with your purchase and i hope nothing goes wrong, take care of her bro. White looks good too on that Sti, my Evo is also white btw.
Thats awesome you have both. I had a 2014 Evo X .But used that as a trade in for the 2021 CTR . The Evo was great .Had it for 7 years. Just felt it was time for a change.
I owned an FK8 Type R for 4 years and just sold it recently and picked up a 21 STI. This is my 3rd STI I've owned and it has been a great car so far. I love the more pronounced turbo lag feeling on the EJ257. I definitely agree with your points, especially in regards to the interior having less blind spots. At the end of the day, they're both great cars and you really can't go wrong either way. I would probably recommend more people to the CTR now that prices have come down, purely because I have more faith in Honda reliability and I think most people are lax when it comes to maintenance that STI's require.
Some really good points. Looking to replace my 17 year old '02 WRX and wanted another hatchback. Since Subaru wasn't cooperating there I looked at the CTR. Dealer mark up, 7-10K here in Atlanta & cost of changing rims/tires were unneeded cost to a already pricey car. Bought a '05 .
Honestly living in a snowy state I had a 400whp wrx (not the same as an sti but close) and switched to a CTR and I’m so much happier with the R even in the winter it’s more predictable than the wrx and much less I have to worry about when modifying it.
I owned a 2018 Type R for two years. Loved the car. I traded it for a 2018 sti because i moved up north. I liked the sti but it didnt feel as quick and wasnt as fun as my type r. I sold my sti and i am purchasing a 2017 focus rs with onky 20k miles later this week. Im hoping the rs can fill the void left by my type r. The sti is still a great car though. Enjoy it!!
Update: the Focus RS is by FAR the best car in the group. Sounds great, fun to drive and its much faster than both the type r and the STI. Ford got it right. Too bad they stopped making them here in the US.
I was in the market with my eye locked on a type r. Everything you stated was correct and thats why I didn't buy 1. I can't bring myself to buy 20" tires evey 10-12k miles. Also that dealer mark up, it's annoying. Every body wants 40k for a used... I ended up getting a 2021 g70 3.3t and I don't regret it. 🙂 congrats on your buy . Sti was my other choice as well. People may say the ej motor in that car is old but I looked at it as a refined motor, not old.
The only problem is that they didn't do enough refining for so many years, until this most recent s209 type RA engine and the 19'-21' Sti models that got it. They finally addressed several (not all) of the weak/underdeveloped areas and people are pushing the power they should be able to on a stock block. (Or just throw a jdm engine in and not worry about all the consequences of compromising the platform due to emissions to sell it here).
After having the 2019 type r for 7 months, I sold it and changed to a 2020 sti last year. Type r is a much easier car to drive fast but sti needs a better driver to deliver the performance.
@@daegan00 yeah idk if it's just where I live or what but I have gotten an insane amount of chips for the amount I've driven it. Enough to wear I am considering ppf on everything front facing after a paint repair job
If only this car were more reliable and last longer. I don’t want to deal with head gasket repair every year. I drive my CTR hard all day everyday and not worry about a damn thing.
@@totljag1 I dont have 1. I prefer the type r but im not paying insane mark ups for a civic. the sti looks far better than the SI. Current gen Hondas in general look weird. The CTR just happens to pull it off with the add side skirts, wing ect.
@@novaGRCircuit well they gave me good money for both of them, plus unfortunately i had a bad experience with the transmission in my Type R. Spent a lot of money and the dealership still did me wrong..so i just parted out and sold the car.
I live in icy Canada, my 2016 WRX with winter tires on cuts through ice like a rocket. With Subaru’s AWD it’s a no brainer for me. Absolute and total confidence while driving in the snow. It has never let me down. I keep it maintained, zero issue so far.
I had 2018 sti and now i drive 20 CTR..Man ctr is another level if u talking about driving ..sti i feel is slow and steering response and feel ctr is better..i agree with u about the wheels gets chips quickly.
Got my Civic Type R for MSRP for a fun little road trip out of state. For sure agreed about the stock wheels. Spent and extra $3000 for a nice wheel/tire combo. I have driven both cars and I just fell in love with how the Civic drives in comparison as well as the engine and transmission. I don’t think there is a wrong answer for the comparison of the two cars STI are also a fun time especially in the snow if you don’t have a AWD SUV.
I think it’s worth it as long as it won’t put you in a bad spot financially. I’ll also be making a video on true ownership costs soon once I’ve had more time with the car so stay tuned for that
How was the STI more enjoyable to drive than a CTR? Just curious. On the fence if I want to trade in my SI for a 10th gen CTR or wait for 11th gen (May be after a refresh).... or might even get an SUV (family car lol)
I was wanting a Type R for a while started shopping for one but got sick of crazy mark ups, started looking at STIs since I loved them back in high school, and was looking at this exact color, and ran into some insurance issues that should be on my record. So back to saving money. Might just get the new Golf R instead. Thing is insane and AWD is gonna be better for where i live over a CTR.
Yeah, it's ridiculous that Honda dealers treat this as some sort of "limited" model even though they sell a metric shitton of them in North America. You have to be a real sucker to buy a 300hp Honda for $50k.
STi holds it's value very well. I'm sure the CTR will be ridiculous as well, which is why I'd honestly never buy either car. Almost bought a WRX but they wouldn't really budge on the price so I went VW.
Make it a point to not lug the engine(to the extent of downshifting for sometimes no reason), check the oil every couple gas fill-ups to find any problem early, and dont do parking lot donuts resulting in half the block being oil starved, real tune for any mods, and it's a 200k mile car.
@@joseperalta8605 I agree, it is the worst from Japan aside from the rotary. In the sense that you can't beat on it its whole life while staying behind on oil changes and keeping the same spark plugs in till the frame rusts out. If you understand the platform and perform due maintence it is indeed a 200k car (aside from the 2012-2016 motors that were just not right after the tsunami hit their plant and they re-tooled). The car attracts many ignorant owners and it does not forgive ignorance unfortunately.
Having owned both a 2016 STi and now a 2020 CTR, I can tell you the extra money your gonna drop on the CTR is so worth it. I absolutely love it. Also, I’ve already slain a bunch of current gen STi’s in it.
Great video man! I test drove an sti before purchasing my CTR and absolutely loved it. What really drove me away from the STI was the ancient engine and how badly it responds to mods. I don’t want to be worried about blowing up my engine after a few bolt ons + tune. The STI offers such a nice analog feel that doesn’t really exist in any modern car
@@Wonderlaust how much hp did he push into the car and how does he drive it? I know a few guys around and just above 400 hp on theirs and they’ve been solid. Had them worked on and protuned at a place local here called AWDTuning. Place has lots of experience and specializes in Subarus.
I live in NoVA as well and I always wanted a STI. But I bought a Type R instead and have loved it since day one. That said, I still stare at a STI when I see one. Both cars are just as good.
My 8th gen si had 18” 40 sidewalls and I’ll tell quickly that a 40 sidewall sucks also. I live in Chicago and I drive to work and home only, I was going through tires every 1yr1/2 which cost me $800. For a good pair of all season tires from tire rack or discount tires. I would recommend as a “daily” the shortest would be a 45 side wall. If I had your STi I would go 17” with a 45 side wall. BUT, to each there own 👍
When I bough my 2019 STI , a Honda dealership was willing to sell me a type R without the mark up, after seating in the type R I knew it wasn’t for me, the seats on type R for getting in and out was going to be a pain. Two years with my STI and almost paid off and love ❤️ it.
Ive owned multiple STI's and now have a 2019 CTR. The CTR is miles ahead of the STI. At this point its not even a comparison, however just enjoy the STI for what it is. I owned a 2015, which had engine problems so i traded up to a 2017. They were both fun, but in the end, the honda CTR is just a better platform. the EJ is dated, and you can really feel it, once you start trying to mod it. Congrats on your purchase, hope it serves you well.
Miles ahead lol? CTR may be faster stock for stock but it’s not miles ahead. The CTR is not much better on gas mileage, the interior sucks besides the awesome seats. the infotainment is laggy, the rear of the car is uglier than sin and the exhaust sounds like shit even modded. So I wouldn’t say miles ahead. Who knows how well the engine reliability is. The front of the car looks great id have to admit. M3, RS3, C63, are cars that are MILES ahead of the STI
@@porsheracing it is the shifter, seating position, steering feedback and response, clutch response, handling are all miles ahead of an STI the Type R is much more balanced. Honda really care about all out power they like a balanced car the manual transmission is amazing I’ve never felt a smoother shifting manual in a FWD car or even some RWD cars
when you say honda is ripping you off because is marking you 7k car just remember that Subaru is really ripping you off selling you a "brand new car" with 25 year old engine/transmission and 10 year old tech.
@@novaGRCircuit that’s a valid point I totally respect that. But you can buy a 2002 Subaru Impreza wrx sti and is the same car as the 2021 even the seat heat button are the same 20 years after. Honda is marking up the type r as Ford the raptor or the Shelby or gm the zl1 or Mitsubishi the evo era specially the final edition and you forgot that Subaru mark up the s209 I saw sti s209 50k over sticker that’s ridiculous for a car with 30hp than regular sti. The sti is an excellent car not as reliable as Honda but it is a good car but it’s not better than the type r that’s why the type r cost more and also hold the value so well. The sti is a rally focus car and the type r is a track focus car you’re comparing orange to apples Edit: and if you don’t want to pay premium but want a good car the veloster n is amazing for the price.
I was looking at the Type R so I went on Cargurus to check out what was for sale. There was page after page after page for sale and many had less then five thousand miles. Why in the world were people selling their cars after hardly spending any time behind the wheel?? My local dealership did not have any on the lot nor were they expecting any to come in. I was told there was huge demand and they wish they had some. The whole thing was just plain weird. So I bought a low mileage 2006 Hawkeye WRX STI. What a car!
Congrats! To answer your question, I think it’s a combination of crazy used car prices and buyer’s remorse. Personally for the Si, I didn’t have the buyer’s remorse but the used market was so crazy that it allowed me to sell at no loss and try something else
I just traded in my 2019 CTR for a 2021 LE CTR, but damn it I've always wanted an STI. You don't need a single reason why you went with the STI over the CTR, the STI is a sick car that any non-domestic car enthusiast would want if they could. Car looks great, enjoy
I was looking at a few LEs, but couldn’t justify spending 65-70k for a civic. That’s why I just went with a 2020 championship white. I lucked out and found one that Honda used for displays at shows around the country. Paid used price for a virtually brand new car. LE is awesome though, and in the long run will probably be a good investment. Might sell for 100k at Barrett Jackson or mecum in 10-20 years. Also would be awesome for bragging rights at meets or H-Day.
I love STI’s. I’ve considered buying one over the Type R but I really like how the Type R looks and the reliability of Honda’s are unmatched in comparison to boxer engines. The only thing I don’t like about the Type R is the exhaust sound when you go Catless lol. If it wasn’t for the ringland/head gasket issues on subarus I’d buy one without thinking twice.
I've owned 3 Subarus: 2010 WRX, 2017 WRX and now a 2020 STI. Stock out of the box the STI is the best, my 17 WRX was FBO and E55 blend, 365 WHP no issues. But there's something about the STI... I actually don't like the short throw shifter, its too wobbly, maybe replacing the bushings will clean it up.
Congrads man i got my 2020 in the same color as you do. Now for the type R, yeah it is faster OEM but with all the mark up you are paying like 40k + for the car, which is the same price for you to get a base STI + stage 2~3 and would be much faster than the R. And EJs are proven to be reliable if you use quality parts, do you maintenance, and find a reputable tuner.
Bro I literally went to Honda the day the R was announced and my state already had its # accounted for and or sold and I know they weren't flexing . The youngest sales dude had his name down. Can't be happier with the va STI.
I was in this same dilemma.. Local Subie dealer is letting their STI's go for $1k under MSRP... luckily.. i was able to find a CPO 2021 Type R that was under $39k (2.3k miles), but did have to fly to the east coast to get it and drive it back.. hit quite a few potholes on the trip back, but no cracks or bends.. That being said.. i did order some 18's with a 255/40 tire size.. I test drove both the STI and CTR on the same day and the CTR has MONSTROUS pull above 4k.. the STI definitely feels lacking compared to the CTR with top-end pull.. That can be addressed easily with a tune and some bolt-ons on the STI, but the CTR is a lot more practical.. and the biggest thing.. Comfort mode is LEGIT on the CTR.. spent about 95% of the drive back from the east coast in comfort mode.. The duality of the CTR is the appeal.. at least for us older cats, lol..
Both are good, the gas killed it for me with the sti. Glad I chose a CTR. In addition you’re right about the wheels, I slapped on some TEs cause stock wheels are trash
Nice STI!!! I had the similar decision, STI or CTR? Not a bad situation to be in, but I chose the CTR. Reliability, comfort, and mpg were the main deciding factors. Pricing would have been similar, 2-3k difference more for CTR, but less mpg in STI would make it equal after 2-3 years. Overall, these are two of the best "driver's" vehicles at this price point. Thanks for the video and keep up the content!
I have an Audi S3 I’ve always wanted the STi my brother came home from the military and bought a brand new one because he’s a jerk but idk I’ve just always loved the STi I got my S3 used after the covid shutdown and I got a really good deal but although the S3 is a great car I just feel like the STi is just a raw and mean looking car
You jumped in at the wrong time tho man, for 2022 Subaru is completely redesigning the WRX and STI, as 2022 is when the new Generation lands. Same with the VW GTI and Golf-R, same with the Civic and Type-R, and there is even a GR Corolla coming to the states in 2022 or 2023. Now isn't the best time to buy any new sporty car. The new Generation cars are looking to blow the old generation out of the water. The VW GTI and Golf-R are shedding a bit of weight and getting more power. The new Gen WRX (NOT-STI) will be getting 295 Horsepower! Things are going to change big time for cars in the next 12-30 months. By the end of 2022 there will be a whole new performance car game.
Yeah I’m aware, however I always wanted an EJ motor at least once, so in my eyes it was now or never since I would never buy a used STI. I’m not a big power chaser, so the new one having more power isnt enough to move the needle for me
Nice Reasoning. You dont hate on the R, the STi is just your car. Personally? If the STi was available here, i wouldve gone for it. But the R will suffice just as much when it comes here (yeah AWD sounds nice, but i know my way around snow driving). One Minus i have to give is the Handbrake or the lack of it. Once its here im gonna miss that. So a quick question if an R owner happens to read this: is there a way to deactivate the automatic engage and just leave it in gear?
I went with a type r for reliability, functional aero and not having to do much to be able to track it. My brother has a sti and has 30k miles and already is on his 2nd engine . Only thing i like is the handbreak.
yes the type r is a beast of a track car. but lets be honest. 90% of sports car buyers are doing straight line racing because that is what is most accessible.
Loved your video... and I hope you have more coming, especially if you're going to add mods to it. Please include install videos!!! Reason I am excited is because I am getting my 2021 WRX STi Limited Edition next month and I want to keep up, so I hit that subscribe button.
I had the same decision between these cars (and a few others). Here's my comparison side by side to yours. 1. Price and dealer mark up. They are both the same price where i live so a non issue. 2. Wheel and tyre. Totally agree with you. But we generally up size the width of the rims anyway so new rims is always on the list of upgrades for any car. On the subject, the sti rides far better in traffic. 3. Looks, well totally personal preference. I thought the sti was a box with a wing. Type R wins in looks for me. 4. Wanted something new. Well that's your total personal circumstance. 5. More enjoyable behind the wheel. Have to disagree, you need to be able to drive to keep a fwd up with an awd. The type R will punish you if you get it wrong. Its also so light in comparison. Great feel. 6. Shifter feel. Well most people say the type R is better, again personal preference. 7. Manual hand brake. Totally agree. I dislike the electronic hand brake in the type R. Stops you drifting etc. 8. Visability when inside. Again agree with you there, but ilthe addition of the side camera overcomes and possibly makes the type R better overall. 9. Seats not as hugging, will likely last longer. Agree there. But the hugging seats are needed. Sti internal quality seems better overall than the type R. 10. Headlights swival. I've never compared this. So I'll say the STI is superior here. 11. Exhaust sounds better. Yep STI always wins this. And you have 4 tips as opposed to 3 in the Type R. Clearly a winner there. 12. You didn't really highlight it, but AWD is awesome. STI for the win, except if you get a tyre fail and you need to replace all 4.(subie worse issue than all other awd cars) Why the civic won for me 1. Fuel economy. This is my daily I transport the family around in. I do a lot of miles/km. The Type R can run on the cheapest fuel and only uses nearly half the of what the STI uses. 2. Superior cornering 3. Superior room for big feet. This ruled it out for me.
So how do you feel about the STi purchase? Doesn't it feel technology lacking? Quality lacking? Small narrow feeling? Lacking in engine quality compared to a 2.0T typeR engine ?
Still loving it! Technology wise it has everything I’m looking for. I think my Civic Si seats were more comfortable and also was cheaper to own but other than that I don’t miss it. Interior space is not an issue for me either
I agree with you. I'm also planning to get a new car and I'm looking to get either a civic or a wrx. I want something new since I have been a honda lover since day 1.
@@novaGRCircuit I'm weighing my options based on my budget too. Also, the 2022 civic will hit the market in a few months so it would be a hard decision for me
Type R handles the power like no other fwd car, especially with hondata TC control. Regardless, you’re still kinda right lol :/ It’s really only circuit or track with dry conditions, or roll racing (with fwd)
I did a muffler delete (actual just removal of the muffler) And find a very interesting intake sound at high rpm for my STI, especially on max boost range all the way to 6800
Yep - just had the dreaded ringland failure a fortnight ago, with all of 13k km on the odo. Disappointed but unsurprised... still a great car for the money, though nowhere near as robust as a Type R.
@@mickeydrippins6408 didn't have ring failure but my 2020 wrx had a spun bearing at 28k. Typical subaru fuck boys will judt instantly defend subarus and say you don't change your oil.
I grew up loving subaru. But I bought a modified 2002 WRX and the engine blew within a year. I've owned 2 civics and never had any issues and I drive them hard. So I would only get a Honda type r because I trust Honda
@@novaGRCircuit yeah everyone has different expirience with subaru. I've had friends who never blew an engine...anyways I've just loved honda and my sister had a 2002 civic and had zero issues as well.
The civic type r would’ve payed for it’s self with retaining its value, paying fair less for maintenance because it’s a Honda, and the insurance still sees it as a “civic” and you pay FAIR LESS.
The only real answer as to why someone would buy an STI over a type R is that they don’t want to pay the stupid mark ups Honda dealerships are still charging. I was looking for a 2nd fun car to compliment my 19 zl1 M6, and the type r fit the bill at the advertised price. With the mark ups here, no. I’d rather just get a Supra or Tesla for a little more. I’ve owned an STI (2015, so basically the same at the 2021s) and the car was good. Just old tech back in 2015. In 2021, it’s well behind the times. Doesn’t make it a bad car, just not worth the sti price tag.
That is one of the reasons yes, but I also had 2 10th gen civics already. Wanted something completely different and I’ve always wanted the STI and the experience of driving one everyday. To you and others who have already had the experience, might be overrated but not for me
@@novaGRCircuit oh don’t get me wrong. I’m not knocking your choice at all. They can be great cars, I was just concerned with modifying it due to the engine failure issues. You’ll love the car for sure. But if you ever want more you have to weigh the pros vs cons.
@@novaGRCircuit. I have a Type R,& I think the stock rims are better than the STI’s. But that didn’t stop me from changing mine out for a nice set of Volks. Probably 1of the best things I’ve done as well.
Good choice! Sti has best awd system in the world civic does not! As far as wheels if you want more protection you have to get 18’ rims or 17’ but Sti would only allow 18’ as the smallest wheel possible. But yeh I would choose sti any day over type R civic
The only thing I agreed with in this video was the manual hand break. Can’t understand why they did that to us lol but other then that the CTR out specs the sti all day.
Leave it stock it’s fine. Or when mod, tune every time. It’s these idiots who put cold air intake, down pipe, performance exhaust and expect the car run fine with the stock tune.
@@novaGRCircuit got a 21 STI at msrp. Type r hella markup. 10k from msrp. Wish I could've got a race red STI but WRB is ok. Keeping this stock until my kids grow up. Sell it and grab me a v8.
Yes it does have higher maintenance costs but a clutch isn’t something you replace every year. Also this is only one of the factors in making my decision, not the only factor
I bought a STI over the Type R because my child is safer in a Subaru then a Honda period. Second in Canada the snow and rain will defeat the type R. The STI is the last real analog driving experience
@@novaGRCircuit most people are using Motul 5w-30 Xclean in the direct injection FA20 wrx, but Motul 5w40 in the EJs(including myself) for the extra lubrication on the bearings and thicker so less oil blow-by.
A lot of nonsense talk on the net about subaru reliability. I have owned Subarus for years without any problems. The problem is some ppl heavily mod these cars, with terrible tunes, poor maintenance and they abuse them. Enjoy your car!!! They are a lot of fun to drive.
