Why is the Ecoboost Mustang So Hated? 

Ecoboost mustang. But I’m biased

RS Camaro fo sho

Neither lol sorry mopar or no car

@@JacobJones-sd6ly you mean boat or no boat?

Ecoboost

It would've competed against the 5.0 it's the only reason why they didn't. FBO tune and your making 5.0 numbers

@@brodyhanna7443 it’s in the transit van😌

I got a 400AWHP Edge Sport with the 2.7TT V6 that keeps up with 5.0s. Can't go wrong with the 3.5 Ecoboost nor the 2.7 Ecoboost V6s.

@@mefool8575 I know I've seen a few videos in the UK of them done up with big turbos. Pretty wild

That would have been a better choice for the Mustang. That engine is pretty impressive in the trucks, so it would be a homerun in the Mustang

@Willham the ecoboosts only "crime" is that it is just offered in a car that also has a coyote option. If Ford had their own gr86 type car but it had the 2.3 or 2.7 ecoboost people would lose their minds. But because the coyote is an option people just totally discredit how much fun turbo 4 cylinders are.

@@frequencyzx11 yes

that is because adults buy six and eight cylinder cars like the GT stinger that is RWD or AWD. the only role this car fill is if you want a mustang and are poor.

@@potatochobit you're likely 13 so that's okay to have bad opinions. Some of the most legendary cars have 4 or less cylinders. Peugeot 205 t16, Ford rs2000, the escort cosworth, civic type r, lotus elise, miatas, evos, eclipse, Subarus. All of those cars are badass. Children disregard platforms without knowing anything.

@@frequencyzx11 I am not poor like you, my little man. I owned a brand new 1997 eclipse and an FD3S RX7 when they were new. I know you think 30 years later you are a cool little man in your rusted hot rod but I drove a 300,000$ aston martin AMR today, have you? nothing wrong with 4 cylinders but please stop pretending your fat mustang with your mom's ford escape engine is badass. It is a decent car to go to work and that is it.

Also, Mustangs have had a 4 cylinder before too

I absolutely agree.

I hate mustangs and Camaros both equally and what makes it worse my nieces boyfriend has a 4 banger mustang to be honest I hate cars they make me mad when I’m forced to drive them If I was the president I would make all cars illegal and melted into production for trucks what trash

@@dac232009 if you were president not enough people would agree so it just wouldn’t happen. Jacked up trucks are equally useless for highways, they don’t control well at high speeds and the tires are louder than the exhaust. Plus there’s the gas mileage but we aren’t worrying about that. The whole reason sportscars exist is to enjoy driving while traveling. It’s fine for me because I don’t have to carry large objects to work with me, even if I did the back seats fold down.

@@dac232009 also if you hate cars so much you’re watching the wrong video.

Exactly, ppl seem to hate on it till they actually drive one

Yeah, some time ago i meet a guy who was saying that eco boost is NOT "a real" Mustang...... and later that month he bought a 1.2 Skoda. Car is fast, it looks good, it uses "reasonable" amount of fuel- and handles weel.... What's not to like.

@@Nothinghere534 why?

@@Nothinghere534 because you had the gay ass automatic 😂

Honestly I hate cars with a passion and mustang are my second most hated passion but Ferrari is my first I just got of jail for parking my truck on top of a Ferrari sob! Was rude at me at Whole Foods in Austin I had enough so I smashed his p.o.s the police said it was a Ferrari Enzo idgaf what it was is it’s a Ferrari pancake now😂

Agreed, I would love to have the coyote sound and power but my EcoBoost has taught me so much!

Just be real. U didn't have the money or the credit for the V8.

@@MrRobVision no I had the money I even have proof on my channel. I have a 2018 premium and I got it about 2 years ago now which at the the time was worth about 30k used so I was only 5k away from a 2018 base GT or I could have just gotten a 2016 GT premium for the same amount.

@@MrRobVision "Hurr, ur poor so u don't get teh V8!" Really selling your point there home eh? How about you learn what *Personal taste* is

@@Apollo5752353 it sounds like the Ecoboost is more your speed and power too 🤣

I wish we got a rear drive escort in the states.

Kids never knew.

@@madmod Whats the difference with rear drive escort and normal escort?

@@Jallu555 better power to the ground, better weight transfer. Plus transverse engines leads to a lot of weak points like axles and weird fitment issues.

Even the awd 92 Ford escort rs cosworth was capable of 150mph and made about 225hp. Pretty stout imho

All you need is FBO big turbo e85 and you’re gapping V8s easy

@@6z0 You can apply that to the V8 5.0s and it would have a hard time catching up, not to mention that Ecoboosts are generally shitty engines and don't last long, especially under more stress with the mods you mentioned. You will burn oil and throw rods in no time.

@@rickitysplitz7035 Definitely not… I had a FBO E85 focus ST with a gtx2867 big turbo and was pushing 450whp for over 2 years. From 60k miles to 110k miles, was super reliable and gapped V8s all day.

@@6z0 That is not the same engine. The focus ST engine is far superior to the one in the mustang ecoboost. The mustang eco blows up stock and if you add power mods it is just a ticking time bomb.

@@robertomedina235 Untrue. The Mustang’s 2.3L Ecoboost is much quicker than the 2.0L Ecoboost in the Focus ST, and they are very very similar engines. Plus the Mustang is RWD

10 speed auto or any auto isn't ideal for the twisties. A well driven manual is better. Problem is most people suck at driving. Autos overheat in canyons and on road courses much quicker.

@@midnight347 cool story bro.

@@midnight347 sure for cars from the 80s and 90s. A 2022 10 speed isn't "having trouble in the twisties"

@@midnight347 Not everybody knows someone who will teach them to drive stick.

I wouldn't say they're light weight.

I just can’t imagine being stupid enough to buy a car or dumb enough to buy a ford I feel for your delusional decision hopefully you will buy a truck one day you will thank me so much more fun especially since you can screw your girl on a backroad in your truck you will thank me

I always liked the feel and balance of those Foxbody T-birds, and they had a nice basic shape you could make look cool, I thought: I drove a friend's very humdrum V6-auto-with-annoying digital dash quite a bit for a while, but thought it had nice qualities as a platform. Always have kinda had an eye out for one of those with a stick or V8 or the Turbo Coupe stuff. :)

I put the 85.5 svo motor and trans in my 83 Ford ranger with a 98 explorer 8.8 rear with 4:11 gears and disk brakes I pray I can afford to do another sometime soon I wouldn't mind doing the same with one of the new motors. Also don't know if you were as disappointed as me when they said that they would have a twin cam version in 86 or 87 which obviously never happened which sucks bc when you take a Volvo 2.3l twin cam head and fit it they make an even better setup I've only seen 1 in person absolutely amazing.

It's a cool car, no doubt! The SVO might have had good performance but it having a 4 CYLINDER TURBO was a turn-off to be honest. It's just not appealing... Big V8 power is part of the American car culture! It's part of the appeal of an American sports car! If I want a 4 or 6 cylinder car, I'll get a German or Japanese car! 👍 The same goes for the BUICK GNX from the 80s. It had a V6 TURBO engine and good performance, it was really fast but... a V6 in an American sports car? No thanks! It also didn't last long in the market just like the SVO... *Emission regulations and oil crisis at that time were all part of the reason why those models got created to begin with...* American car manufacturers like Chevrolet, Dodge and Ford also didn't use 4 and 6 cylinder engines for their *most powerful* models, even in the following years and even decades! They always used *V8 engines* as they should! 4 and 6 cylinder versions exist, especially nowadays for a reason... but no one really cares about them! 👉 Go overseas and ask people what comes to their mind when they hear "American muscle car" or even "American sports car": *Big V8 Power* is one of the thoughts!

So then why does a GN or GNX sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars now? At one point they were the fastest production car made 😮

@@rawnrg1988 Because it's an 80s - limited production car. It was only fast in a straight line! All that because of the turbo... Put a turbo or supercharger in a 5.0 Mustang, and see what happens!

Yeah, paid off in the ultimate mod many people can't claim.

@@dannylovell7876 hell yeah lol

Yup, that's why I ended up going with the Ecoboost because I need it for daily driving. GTs are awesome but it's a good weekend car to drive for fun. I needed a car for my 30 minute commute to work as well as for fun. I think the Ecoboost is great for work and for play whereas the GT is great for play. Not only was the Ecoboost more fuel efficient, but it was cheaper at $28,000 compared to the GTs at $36,000 - $40,000 and higher which puts the monthly payments at like half my rent (which is also ridiculously high) I live at my means and don't get myself into things I can't afford. I don't want to fall in love with a car that I'm forced to trade in because I can't afford the payments/gasoline. I'm glad to see Ford make Mustangs for every class of people out there.

I would have kept the '06 Stang...

@@hakeemsd70m I regret selling it everyday

The 2.3 costs 10+k dollars less than a 5.0 equal trim. That is significant.

I agree. Now that the 5.0s have been out for some time. There's plenty available for reasonable prices.

38 to 41 mpg.. not even.

@@XxXDOMINIONXxX 47 on the last trip home-but had the wind at my back most of the time. Avg speed 50.6 mph. 69-76 deg F, 50% avg humidity, winter fuel, and barometer mid 29.70 range (uncorrected). If you can learn to use your right foot, pretend there's an egg between your foot and the pedal, it can (and easily does) happen. Don't accelerate up hills, coast downhill. while coasting, the injectors are cut off and fuel is not used-at least in Ford's strategy. Tire pressures need to be higher than "recommended" as well, I run em at 40 psi, seems to be best compromise between wear and low rolling resistance; based on tire temps across the tread. 3.15 rear diff A10.

@@turbojoe9554 hell of a strategy!

I just got a 2018 ecoboost with 60k miles on it, it's the convertible premium, such a beautiful car and extremely nice ride, I don't think im ever letting one go and I've always been a v8 camaro guy, I can see myself getting another mustang with the v8 but I cannot see myself letting this one get away.

i mean i average 29-34mpg with the 5.0 at 70 plus [i also have the 3.15] so economy isnt the selling point but the INSURANCE is.

You'd be getting the much more reliable motor as well. Coyotes stretch thier legs at 600whp. With fuel mods and e85 stock motor can sprint well past 700-800whp. Some have recorded 1000whp stock motor.

All comes down to what you want it for if you don’t care about the speed and you want something affordable less in insurance better mpg you’d get the ecoboost

I used to think this way too, but gas prices have changed my mind

@@Ram-rm2gz coyotes with the 10spd have been known to average sub 30 on the hwy. an I’ll take a NA motor long term all day over a boosted motor

@@danielservinthat makes no sense buying a 5.0 just to go speed limit and get 30 mpg might as well get a ecoboost you spend less on gas and insurance either way

My buddy had an ecoboost modded and he would beat 5.0 and other v8 vehicles

i did the same a few months ago in Atlanta. Its not break your neck fast but its definitely enough power for most people

Driver mod only reason. Too many videos online of modded ecoboosts getting dusted by slower cars than 5.0’s. They are everywhere on RU-vid

Facts bro, I love my 10 speed Ecoboost, there is no point in trying to please the hater’s.

😂 For real! I mean a 4 cylinder in a Mustang... Come on... If a want a 4 or 6 cylinder car, I'll get a German or Japanese car!

Honestly man mustangs in general get alot of hate from other manufacturers fans. As far as the coyote guys they shit on anything that isn't a coyote including other ford's so I wouldn't worry much about that lol. These are great for the money for sure and have good potential.

@@Kev27RS why do you have to get a foreign car if you get a 4 cylinder? You saying American manufacturers can't make cool 4 banger cars with potential that are very reliable and fun? My 16 fiesta st would like to disagree with that. Paid 21 for it new in 16 got about 4k in hp mods total and she's around 2600 lbs and doing about 280 hp and tq to the wheels. It's a very fun car that corners like it's on rails and I can average 22-26 mpg on e30 despite making 100 hp more than stock and being on ethanol mix (e30 gets about 2 to 3 mpg less on average than straight 93 does). The st twins are very fun cars especially the fiesta and the rs is a good car too. The svt focus was a great car back in the day too. The srt4 neon and the cobalt ss both are fun cars lots of bang for the buck. Americans can make cool 4 bangers too man don't believe the "it's gotta be foreign made to be good if it's a 4 cylinder of 6 cylinder" line of crap lol. 110k miles been tuned since 2800 miles, e30 since 40k and my current fbo x37 hybrid turbo e30 tuned setup since 50k. Still on original clutch too because I can actually drive. Very reliable car I'd drive across the country in it without batting an eye. The 1.6 eb can do up to 400 or so rwhp on stock bottom end. That is stout for a 1.6. In a 2600 lbs car that will haul ass. My 280 is quick enough to keep up decent with stockish to light modded 5.0s on take off and in the twisties it could easily hang with 5.0s. They're super fun. If you've never driven a nicely modded one with at least upper 200s to the wheels on power you really should. You would be shocked how fun it is.

@@midnight347 Hey, don't get me wrong, a "European" Ford like a Focus, Fiesta, Escort, Sierra, etc. are cool as well!

A Mustang without a V8 isn't really a Mustang...

@@Kev27RS Preach!

@@doha5634 😁👍

yea if you like low down torque its a good amount of fun. And its lighter than the GT

SVO👍

It's a good daily if you don't mind a 2 door sports car for a daily. I prefer my 16 fiesta st, fbo x37 turbo it is 2600 lbs does 280 hp and torque to the wheels. It's quick enough to keep up with stockish 5.0s and it handles like it's on rails and I average 22-26 mpg and I'm not shy with the throttle at all plus I'm on e30 which uses about 2-3mpg more on average vs straight 93 so for my power level and fuel and the fact I love to play around in it getting on the throttle alot listening to it I feel that is very good. I paid 21k for it brand new with 1200 bucks in options and I have about 4k into it mod wise far as hp mods. It's pretty good bang for the buck and the fun factor is off the charts. The ecoboost 1.6 is one of the best eb they make reliability wise. And the size of the fiesta st allows you to fit it easier into more places and the small doors make getting out next to other cars a breeze. I always say it's the perfect daily for a gearhead. It has decent room to be as small of a car as it is. If you need something larger the focus st makes a good choice for similar money. A loaded focus st will go for more. All the ecoboost engines are cool. Much better and more potential than the crappy base engines we used to get in cars not that long ago.

Same when I was a little bit younger I was obsessed with numbers, shitting on 2V and 3Vs etc and now it’s like I hear people talk and I’m like bro do you even how fast 300HP actually is ??? Even less HP so many factors into a fast/quick car My heart to an extent still says mustangs are meh but my brain is like these cars are the epitome of a true sports car/muscle car to mod with not a lot of money and now I also find myself loving every body style (except the II lol)

Or the Barra straight 6

Really? My friend has a 19 ecoboost he bought for $28k in April 2021 and has gotten $26k offers for trade in for a different car, so the PP value would be like $28k still

@@MagicalMarioBros Seems like the performance pack and the premium with the leather heated and cooled seats are the only ones holding value. Mine stickered for $32k, black book on it is $26,800-27,500 clean trade. Doesn’t sound like a major loss, but if you add another 5-10k miles to it, the value goes down another grand

That's the car market now. Everything bought 10 months ago is with 5-10k less.

@@kirsatta Very much so, I sell vehicles so I experience first hand how messed up the market has been recently. It was great was interest was low and trade values were high, now it’s an even bigger mess

Seems like you bought it at the wrong time . April 2020 got a 2015 mt82 premium with 15 k miles for 18k .

You can really feel the weight difference in the nose. And that Coyote motor really feels like it was shoehorned in there by comparison. But the V8 rumble will put a smile on your face and it takes the twistys pretty well. Oil changes though... that Coyote takes 10 quarts of oil. That was something I didnt realize, so oil changes can be expensive.

The sound it makes and the power they have and the power potential will more than make up for a little more weight on the nose. Matter of fact people really overexxagerate how much difference that makes on a typical street car. Does it make a difference sure it does I'm not claiming otherwise but it's not gonna make the car suddenly crappy handling or something because of a little more weight on the nose. They revise the suspension to account for it somewhat so it's not gonna be a huge huge difference. What will be a huge difference is the power stock for stock and mod for mod. The potential is just so far ahead its not even funny. More than worth having a little more weight on the nose.

@@midnight347 I agree it is much more worth it, just practically the price difference is quite a lot. Didnt think so until I got older and became the owner of my ecoboost instead of my dad (graduation gift for when I left home). Now that I pay for stuff ive realized how much of a difference the GT makes in both your loan amount, downpayment, taxes, everything. Just qualifying. This is the main reason I really never wanted to hate on the ecoboost aside from owning one myself. My goal is to mod it properly to feel even better than the ecoboost. Just waiting on graduating college to save up enough to do so.

You meant to say $38,000 right? MSRP for a base GT in 2019 was 36k

There is that equation like, 'This may as well be a BRZ for what it's trying to do,' :)

@@ELGuaspo nah my G, I got my base model 6-spd 5.0 for TWENTY-EIGHT in november of 2019 with 5 miles on the dash. Couldn't passed it up lol. The 2020s were rolling in and the dealer had such a great deal.

@@ELGuaspo I was eye-ing the new Veloster N at the time as well as a WRX STi (used), MX-5 Miata, Honda Civic Si but I will never say no to the sound of American muscle especially at the price point that I got it for.

@@jd3330 fair warning stay away from sti unless you are building the motor. I blew up 2 motors on stock tune. Sold baught a 19 Camaro SS had 3 years now not a single problem.

Really great I have a 16 with 2020 cleveland engine fbo currently getting tuned by pd tuning 93 pump gas and after that im doing e30 and nx2 drop in

@@fatimajawo484 is a nx2 upgrade worth it?

@@thatguy-ve6mb only if you want to get 400 + hp to the wheel without ecoboom. The stock turbo is safe for about 375 to390 if you want reliability. But with e30 stock turbo fbo it is abosolutely fast n if you like to race it can hang with stock SS n GT pretty well which is awesome.

There is nothing economical about it. I can get 32 mpg in my 2013 GT to work on the Highway. lol

The SVO might have had good performance but it having a 4 CYLINDER TURBO was a turn-off to be honest. It's just not appealing... Big V8 power is part of the American car culture! It's part of the appeal of an American sports car! If I want a 4 or 6 cylinder car, I'll get a German or Japanese car! 👍 The same goes for the BUICK GNX from the 80s. It had a V6 TURBO engine and good performance, it was really fast but... a V6 in an American sports car? No thanks! It also didn't last long in the market just like the SVO... *Emission regulations and oil crisis at that time were all part of the reason why those models got created to begin with...* American car manufacturers like Chevrolet, Dodge and Ford also didn't use 4 and 6 cylinder engines for their *most powerful* models, even in the following years and even decades! They always used *V8 engines* as they should! 4 and 6 cylinder versions exist, especially nowadays for a reason... but no one really cares about them! 👉 Go overseas and ask people what comes to their mind when they hear "American muscle car" or even "American sports car": *Big V8 Power* is one of the thoughts!

I had an ecoboost with the 10 speed. I liked it.

Except you can hit 650whp on a stock sealed cyclone. And the weight difference between the 3.7 and 2.3 negligible. And you can still rev the cyclone out to 7000rpms while making that power.

I'd much rather have a 4cyl sound and power than any ev offering that's for sure. I'm a V8 man myself. The sound of a high compression big cammed V8 is almost better than sex (almost) but, I'll still give credit where it's due and the Ecoboost 4cyl is a good engine, as is the 3.7 v6. And I was talking about weight between the coyote and the Ecoboost. 100lbs is a tenth off the 1/4 (usually). I don't disagree with any of you. V8 is much better. But, I wouldn't mind a warmed up Ecoboost for a daily at all. They will all be electric in the next 10 years anyway and we won't be allowed to modify our cars anymore so it won't matter much

@@DOHCCordia cyclone is very underrated but 650 rwhp on stock bottom end is really pushing it. 600 or so on e85 is at the tippy top of what they can really do. 650 on that is like 1000 for a gen 2 and 3 coyote. It may do it for a bit but that isn't considered a "reliable" power level for a stock bottom end.

*See's pony emblem* *hears blow off noise* WAIT A MINUTE.

@@ThatDudeinBlue see pony HearV8 *HEARS BLOWOFF AGAIN* Oh Lordy she’s angry

420 to wheels with simple bolt ons???

@@tmars6507 yep. basically bigger bolt on turbo, intercooler, downpipe and e30 tune is all you need

@@deans_used_car_lot wow that's amazing. I own 2016 gt, still stock. Raced a buddy with a echoboost and he was quick in the quarter mile, I was able to catch and over take him eventually but was very surprised. He did something similar but not sure on the e30 tune, he could use that. I'll let him know!

@@deans_used_car_lot Those Ecoboosts are nowhere near as reliable as a Honda inline, let alone an NA 5.0. They have a bad rep for burning oil and being generally shitty engines.

I forgot it's the Cause worth is what it's called and Germany and here it's the xr4ti and I've had two three of those now and it's one of my favorite cars because it's ugly but it's such a good platform I actually have a guy I know that swapped his two three out and put a turbo coyote in it made 6 or 700 to the wheel or something crazy and a Cosworth which was ridiculous

Let's keep it real: A Mustang without a V8 isn't really a Mustang...

@@Kev27RS your not wrong 😂, I always got hate from people when I had the ecoboost…. Now they don’t say crap to me other than it’s an automatic… can’t never win, fuck them haters 😂

@@miguelrodriguez8913 😂👍 I'd rather have an automatic V8 Mustang than a manual 4 or 6 cylinder Mustang!

The base motor was the inline six at 170 cubic inches but they also offered two V8s at 260 and 289 cubic inches.

@@altonbunnjr thanks I knew that I just wanted people to know the Mustang was made with a inline 6 at first then like you said they offered a v8 that you could choose to order oo thank you for your reply have a good year bro

@thatdudeinblue looks like this person that replied to my comment is pretending to be you. People suck.

Oh wow that’s awesome to hear that your having fun with ur dream car, i definitely want to get one at some point 😁

i see that only in response to the hate that eco owners get, very rarely do i see eco owners starting beef

@@Dan_the_car_man I'm on all kinds of mustang groups and 5.0 owners talk down more to other types of mustang owners than any owners I've ever seen before. They act like the 5.0 is the only engine worth having anything else you're just wasting your time with ESPECIALLY if it is a 4 cylinder turbo or a v6 mustang. They talk down to 3v owners they even talk down to 07-14 gt500 and 03-04 cobras for some unknown reason. Those cars had guys doing 1000 wheel on stock motors years before the coyote even existed. I mean the coyote is great but their owners in general are some of the most toxic people in the Ford community from what I've seen.

Oh I didn’t watch. I had to click and add my opinion on why they get so much hate…look at it…plus 95% of mustang drivers think I want to hear only their exhaust