Why King Cold SOLOS Dragon Ball Z 

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I like how some artwork depicts King Cold’s Final form as looking like a combination of Final form Frieza and Cooler.

*distant Zarbon moan*

As cool as the idea of King Cold having more transformations would be, if he does, there's little reason for him to not realize the sheer danger of Trunks after Trunks so casually deleted Frieza in front of him. King Cold is definitely at his maximum power against Trunks, and it's not remotely enough. It's not like Trunks didn't give him the time to transform either. King Cold could've transformed the moment Frieza got wiped out. But seeing as he didn't in the face of an opponent clearly far superior, and instead went for trickery instead shows that King Cold really had nothing up his sleeve. I don't gripe over lost potential for a villain in Cold because simply put, he was just basically Frieza's dad who was retired. Probably been chilling at his vacation home drinking wines and stuff not bothered in the slightest.

Dude makes a 2+ hour long video about how much Super is a disgrace as a sequel series, and then makes a 10 minute video about King Cold being insanely strong. I love this channel.

I always thought the second form was Cold's top level. Sure, he was almost as powerful as freeza, BUT he 'retired' and that large bulky form was kinda useless (hence why the final form is so much smaller and more lithe). I think Cold set up his grip on the galaxy and then gave it to freeza knowing his son was more powerful, and had more potential.

correct me if i'm wrong, but i remember in trunks timeline, goku defeated both frieza and king cold. and as we all know... the Z worriers( specifically goku and vegeta ) always let the bad guys get to their full power before fighting them.

It's sad that King Cold was wasted, he's one of my favorite Dragon Ball Characters.

I like how that one fan series with a multiversal tournament where in one of them Ginyu took over Cold and made that body reach monsterous forms.

Yeah King Cold was MISHANDLED definitely. There's been plenty of situations where the Z fighters could have defeated there enemies without even giving them a fair chance. But King Cold went down without any hints of his potential to match the Super Saiyan form. They probably would've had to hit that hyperbolic time chamber sooner than later.🤔💭

“He would use maybe 2 fingers? Both hands?” 😂😂 bruh that’s hilarious. Amazing video, I’m so glad you did this because this has been on my mind for actual years thank you so much

Freeza is a prodigy, he has a massive power even for members of his race. Even if King Cold DID unleash his true power (if that's what you mean by transforming, since Freeza's race actually transforms to SUPRESS their power) it wouldn't have been stronger than Mecha Freeza at that moment.

Ever since I read Dragon Ball Multiverse, I've always looked at King Cold differently.

It's worth noting that Frieza and Cooler are prodigies among their race and that's one of the reasons they would be able to transform more times. It's entirely possible that King Cold just isn't as powerful as them, either due to that, age, or just not having the same drive to improve. I'd like to see Cold transform. He'd be significantly larger than Frieza in every form, in fact some people point out that he may only be in his 1st form. He may even become a giant once he gets going.

HE'S ONTO NOTHING AGAIN 🔥🔥🗣🗣

It mentions he improves his abilities by transforming, but I'm guessing a 2nd form is the max transformation he can do. There is no indication he was "hiding" anything, and the translation doesn't suggest that either. That would be an interesting thought though! He'd probably be similar to Frost from Universe 6 in power if he could get to the 4th form.

Imagine if King cold and frieza fused with King cold’s final form obviously. How strong would they be at the start of when trunks appears? Stronger than perfect cell?

I doubt that king cold was strong at all actually. its said that 4th form freiza was his base form, same for king cold, he was in his version of a fourth form. Freiza race members dont transform to multiply their power like saiyans do, they use it to adapt physically to their environment or to suppress themselves. Though it would be cool if king cold was stronger.

Epic video as always and thank you for making it ❤️👍

I'm just happy you're making videos like this again

Friezas 4th form is said to be his true natural form and 1 2 3 are just suppressed forms. Cold should have at least 1 more transformation to his true form

I'm not quite sure if he did have a any other form. The reason is that, in original timeline there was no trunks, thus Goku would have to save the planet, knowing him he would like to squeeze out of his oponent maximum, so assuming that he fought Freeza and King cold (noone else would defeat them at that time) then King Cold coldn't be that much overpowered. The other thing is that offspring tends to be more powerful with more potential that its parents, maybe that was the case of Freeza?

I just assumed at best he was as strong as Cooler was portrayed. Cause there’s no way Goku in the original timeline just kills king cold right off the bat

Addressing around the 4:20 mark 1. Frieza couldn't sense power at this point, so in his arrogant mind he probably thought the last fight was closer than it actually was. 2. He knew about saiyans getting stronger after each fight, but he vastly underestimated it and didn't understand the dynamics of the Zenkai boosts which was implied several times.

Given that goku killed cold in the original timeline i doubt that he was that powerful. Im basing this off of goku most likely giving cold a chance to leave peacefully/allowing time to transform.

I think your headcannon sounds interesting. But I believe that King Cold at his last form would be just as strong if not a little stronger than android 16. Which is already insanely impressive. Considering that Android 16 was so strong at the first arch of the cell saga that he could easly breeze through out all of the z fighters plus android 17, and 18 together without making an effort.

I love hiw the preview for the video has cold looking like some weird homer simpson and freizer hybrid like once i see that i cant unsee it!

My own head canon regarding Mecha Frieza: This rebuilt version of Frieza is a being capable of reaching levels of power even higher than his purely organic form. Pre-Mecha Frieza's max was 120,000,000 which could only be accessed by achieving his bulky 100% transformation. With the upgrades (that look like scrapyard parts) made to Frieza's body, I figured that he could access his 100% power without the need of going into his bulky form. Basically, Frieza didn't need to transform to use his full powerful unlike his purely organic body. The doctors/scientists said the enhancements would help Frieza reestablish himself as the most powerful being in the universe. So, we could estimate Mecha Frieza being at least 150,000,000+ in power. As for King Cold, there's so much we don't know about Frieza's race. Perhaps he saw the potential in his son and figured he'd retire due to the knack Frieza had for power. As the years pass, maybe this race can't access the same levels of power that they could in their younger years. Maybe Frieza simply surpassed his father's power at a young age the same way Vegeta did to his father. Simply put, even transformed beyond his current state; King Cold wouldn't be that much more powerful due to old age, stamina, etc. Again, this is just theories/speculation not facts...

Saw a fan manga on Namek where Captain Ginyu was betrayed by Frieza similar to what Vegeta did Nappa, but Ginyu body swapped with a nobody and managed to escape on a pod. Then went back to the capitol and body swapped with Cold....and pretty much realized Cold walked around hiding all his power and never trained. Well....lol Ginyu proceeded to actually train and got the 5th form Cooler got plus a 6th. Was a beast. Pretty cool to think about all the what if's.

In reality cold was probably around the same power level equivalent to Frieza's second and third form's at least in the manga so that means if cold could transform (which he definitely could have) he probably would have been pretty much equal to Frieza something Goku and trunk's can handle.

Even more interesting enough is that Frieza is incredibly paranoid about his height and can literally change to his second form at any time however, because of what happened to his father, he's entirelly paranoid about ever going back to any of those forms again.

Should have done more I agree with this statement ❤thank u for good Dbz content

Kay, but here's a thought; Maybe the form we see Cold in *IS* his final form. Both of his sons have final forms that were/are vastly different from each other. And they've all been stated to be mutations in one form or another. So it stands to reason that if Cold CAN transform, the form we see him in is likely the apex of his ability to do so. Hence why he didn't do so when Trunks killed Freeza.

Tho I am starting to like the idea of cold transforming, I always felt like he was in his final form it just looks like Frieza's second form. From looking at Cooler it seems they get taller as they age and Cold's skin does not have the binding pink skin like his tail as. Just seems like Cold is in his final form, I remember an old guide saying that from back when dbz came out but idk.

@Saiyan Scholar --- How much stronger does an opponent need to be in order to turn someone into confetti with a simple punch like Gohan did to the Cell Jrs. (anime), Galaxy Soldiers (movie), and Frieza (movie)?

Awesome take on this character... I want more!

I believe that Frieza states that he is the strongest between himself and King Cold upon facing Trunks, which King Cold doesn’t ever object to. It could be that Frieza and Cooler are just stronger than their father because they are natural born prodigies who both possess the capability of transforming further, while King Cold would have to train in order to do the same. Because, if King Cold was going to try and fight Trunks to win I’m almost certain that he would have tried to stall for more time so that he could power up and transform rather than trying to win by lying to Trunks and trying to kill him with his own sword.

I was always under the assumption that was King Colds' current final form in manga/anime. Frieza is considered a mutant in his own alien race with more transformations and insane potential. That's why King Cold has his son as head of the empire due to being special in power among his people. I mean, if as said he could go final form like Frieza when his current form matched half of Final Form Frieza on Namek, he be beyond Cell Saga level. I don't think he could or had that, though, during Trunks slaughtering them both. Mind we are all speculating on King Cold given how short his time was. We only have him, Frieza, and Universe 6 Frost to go by for their race in canon. With Frost being supposedly the mirror to Frieza. So, for all we know, most of their race may have one form. With Cold line having more say two perhaps and his son Frieza having much more for Universe 7. I hate the OVA movie I'll be mentioning, but to bring it up given, I believe Toriyama was more involved with it. When Bardock went back in time and became SSJ... He faced Lord Chilled. Who was obviously an ancestor or at very least same race as Frieza and Cold. He only had one form giving my view that most of the race is probably similar outside Cold and more so Frieza. For Universe 7, at least, as obviously, we know even less about Universe 6 equivalent as we only seen Frost.

So my understanding was that final form Frieza is closer to being his 'actual' form. 1st, 2nd and 3rd forms are actually suppressing forms used to control his power, essentially reverse transformations. He struggles to contain his own power which we see when he is initially able to match SS goku only to rapidly fall apart. My head cannon based on this is that King Cold could hypothetically transform beyond his initial form we see in the series, but doing so would cause his own power to overwhelm him (similar to how messing up the Kaioken is suppose to kill the user). Essentially, Frieza's ability to utilise his full potential is either a case of him surpassing his father's level in chi control, or only possible due to him having less power to control at 100%

My person favourite king cold theory is because it says he looks like friezas second form that could imply that he’s just a more aged first form and that he still has the second form to transform into because we all know frieza isn’t that old compared to his dad

Great what if although I’m just super grateful he’s playable in bt3 it’s the only game that lets you play as him and it feels badass and awesome would recommend to anyone who loves dbz games for King cold it’s always that either his second form is his final form or he hasn’t transformed yet which is confusing since he should’ve transformed against trunks but what can you do

I am pretty certain that Frieza stated that his final form is actually his base form and the other forms were suppressions because his power was too much to control, wouldn't that mean that King Cold had the same base form and what we saw could have been a suppressed form? This is based off of the anime though, I am not sure if the Manga stated differently

@Saiyan Scholar --- Is 120,000,000 PL on Namek with or without all the damage he took and his exhaustion before Goku ever went SS1? And then when Goku bodied 50% Frieza... was his 100% actually fully powered or was he already well below his max despite buffing his body?

@Saiyan Scholar --- What if that wasn't Cold's 2nd form... but was only his 1st form? And what if Cold had a 5th form like Cooler?

I think King Cold could be that level, certainly, but that Frieza might also not be fully grown by the time he dies, and because he was the inheritance of King Cold's empire even if Cold was in the shadows as stronger, it might be safe to say that Frieza even further maturing could have naturally exceeded Cold's maximum if he was given the chance. I think Frieza had more potential, but Cold was the stronger one due to sheer age.

I always had it in the back of my mind as well that instead of Resurrection F, it should've been Revival of Cold. That would've made things more interesting, but considering if he inherited the status of "King, "... Who's to say that in the afterlife he's planning something like taking over Hell or the demon realm (which should be vacant in U7 being that Dabura is gone & his soul was purified in the anime if we take that into consideration). Cold strikes me as the guy who does deals with different entities - i mean just look at him warning Frieza of Majin Buu & Beerus; even in death trying to negotiate with Future Trunks. He had to have negotiated with Beerus on something that the story is not going in depth about. Frieza is like the rich kid who plays anywhere he wants & takes anything from other kids, but Cold is the parent who happens to own banks that run through most houses in that entire city; so nobody can say nothing.

Saying that mecha Freeza is 60 million - very wrong. In canon Freeza stated that new body is perfect for his strength, so it is equal to 100 percent Freeza - 150 millions.

Omg I remember watching the VHS. I was thinking the same thing. You answered it 🤣

I honestly think king cold is actually in his 1st form but due to his age, he grew taller. Imagine his size in his 2nd form, I am guessing its like buff roshi then. Just my head canon though.

After the Cell Saga I looked at King Cold differently. At first, I figured that was as far as he could go and both his sons were more powerful, which is why he was letting them take over. After the Cell Saga, specifically where Goku and Gohan spend time in SSJ to get use to the form... it made me wonder if that is why he stays in that form. He's spent time staying in that form to get use to the form and its power. I assume each of their transformations are similar to SSJ, big increase in power, but a lot of strain/drain on them.

King C❄ld: ☃️ Trunks: Bruh, bring that same energy..🔮

What stunted king cold was the fact that when he was transforming form form 2 into form 3 and something he he got stunted which is why he he let frezzer(frieza) take control of his forces cause he could make to stage 3

Compelling vid, but nothing in the canon supports Cold transforming. That DVD Box claim contradicts the manga. Frieza's forms are exclusive to him specifically, he said he created those to restrain the power of his original body. So they're not even powerups as the DVD Box implies... Lastly we know for a fact, as it's stated, that in the manga Cold is weaker than Frieza while in the anime they say he's stronger -- but, being weaker, he likely doesn't need 'restrains' like Frieza. Meaning what we saw was already his original body. This explains why he didn't even try nor mention transformations against Trunks, and only tries to steal his sword. Because he can't. The DVD Box is just wrong, as the DBZ anime is at times. "Kid Buu is the strongest Buu" anyone?

I know Dragon Ball Multiverse interprets King Cold's final form to be at Semi-Perfect Cell's level. I suppose that's not impossible, I would say he'd be at least android level.

Due to Frieza being the ultimate big bad, I always assumed that King Cold was in his final form or perhaps had one more but ultimately lacked Friza's final form.

it would be nice getting a movie like DBS Broly which further explores the Frieza race and shows King Cold returning. Killing him off was a big waste and the fact that Cold can still be resurrected leaves a lot of potential to work with here

Need more King Cold for sure!

What if King Cold was revived instead of Freezer.

I would count freezers resurection F line where he mentions that his father specificly told him not to mess with Lord Beerus or Majin Boo. so i assume the later probably would have caused him at the very least alot of problems before beeing taken down.

I hope the 10 year training Freeza did was with his dad. And they learned to fuse. Since he said I’m the Broly movie “it’s 2 against 1”. That would so awesome. Both black transformations and then fuse. Fan fun all day.

I dont think King Cold had other forms. (Correction he might have a base form and trained for the second form to be more imposing) He was more into the king role than the fighter role. An anime recently came out that hits pretty accurately on picking between ruling and studying the blade. Simply put, he didn't have time to train so he was weak.

Seeing King Cold at 100% full power would have been awesome.

Cold day in Hifl. King Enema comes to berus for help, as cold threatens to destroy the other realm barrier and return to the mortal realm

Someone should make a fan made version !! This could be a huge thing everyone wants to see. I agree with u King cold got killed to easy.

Amagine if that isnt even his second form, thats his first

If he could solo DBZ, then why didn't he transform.

The way I see it based on comments that iirc Frieza said about his transformations is that what we generally call second form is actually base form or first form. What we call first form, is more like form zero. I remember Frieza mentioning something about creating the original form we saw him in on purpose. This suggests form two is his natural state. Now, that could lead one to consider the possibility that Frieza also created form three, and final form from scratch. And this would suggest that King Cold may not have done the same, and may not have the ability to transform at all. Unless of course, final form is actually base form and the Frieza race created two and three to hide their true appearance and power as Frieza did by creating form one (or form zero). Correct me if I'm wrong though, but I do recall this being mentioned by Frieza. Xenoverse seems to assume that final form is base form, since all the Frieza race characters appear to be in final form, and Frost in DBS is also always in final form. In the Cooler movie, Cooler is in final form from the start, and then went to a form five. Something Frieza could not do, and never does. It could be either honestly, but I find it unlikely that if Cold could transform that he wouldn't do so to prepare for a fight that got Frieza destroyed in his own final form.

This video made me think that it would be very cool if Dragon Ball Movies told "what if" stories, like a movie about the original timeline where Trunks never appeared to kill Freeza and King Cold.

"Wait you dirty little Saiyan! I still have several forms above this!"

I do personally think King Colds base form just resembles Frieza's 2nd form and he's always in it, but I do still like the theory that he was just in his 2nd form

I personally think he doesn't have any other forms and that he's already in his final form. But thanks for making the video i love more content for king cold

I once read somewhere that King Cold does have a Final Form and at Max Power, he can go toe to toe with Kid Buu.

What happened in the original timeline when mecha and cold arrived? Who beat them then if it wasnt trunks?

If King Cold transformed as a cliffhanger it would be like Trunks SSJ 2 against Perfect Cell.

My Dad Is Crazy Strong.

I think this is just a case of forgotten character, the fact that he liked to stay in the shadows and he has a clan of the strongest in the universe and even beerus didn't know about him all could have made for some interesting scenarios

King cold needs more respect NOW. I hope to see him revived or just more past shots of him. More what ifs need to respect this man.

I remember reading somewhere that King Cold "CAN" transform, but not like how Frieza does it. The difference is that when Frieza does it, it's not a transformation because it just him unlocking a lock he put on to his power. While for King Cold, his transformations would actually be transforming like Cooler and Goku (not his base form). Frieza's base form is his 100% form while King Cold's base form is the one we get to see (which i guess you can say is 2nd form frieza) and base form cooler is also the same as 100% frieza. That is why Frieza can't be knocked out of his 100% form and can stay in that form forever but not his Golden form because golden form is actually a transformation for him now. I also read somewhere that If King Cold did have a transformation, it would've just been 1 transformation above his base form like cooler, not something like Frieza's multi transformation. And if King Cold can transform, it would've looked and acted different from Frieza's transformations also. So say in the timeline that Trunks didn't come and Goku had to fight, maybe King Cold did transform, but it didn't give him a Super big lead for him to win, kind of like how (bad example) Cooler's transformation didnt make him win against Goku. The fight would've been a bit longer but Goku probably woud've won with an Instant Kamehameha or something.

So interesting!

I still crave some backstory about frieza n his clan.

Daizenshuu 7 states in King Cold's bio that he is "slightly behind" Frieza in terms of battle power

Frieza : “it’s just a flesh wound” Goku: “your arms off”

If I'm not mistaken freezas "final form" was actually his base form and he never used it until he met Goku because he never needed to use it before then...or haven't used it for a long time until then..

The concept of King Cold training, then achieving a powerful form and fighting Blue Goku would be so cool. But Frieza sells, so Cold only exists when he needs to at this point.

Now for king cold in terms of scaling, his power level is how you guys would do it but to me, I think for saying scholar he should be definitely stronger than 50% cyborg frieza by 2 times which will make his second form around 100 million then if he transforms to all the way, his final form just about way over 1 billion to me

I feel like I got the impression somewhere that Frieza was exceptional. A prodigy of some kind not just a member of an elite species or family.

Ginyu Cold in Multiverse was a monster

Trunks knew absolutely how Saiyan battle lust could impair fighting choices.... Seeing how his future was trashed he was not taking any chances so yeah makes sense he'd ellimate threats quickly.

I think people forget that when Goku went SSJ on Namek he had already been worn out after fighting for a long time, while ontop of using Kaio Ken during the fight, which is why I think Goku would be stronger than Trunks at this point of the story.

New anime idea: King Cold comes back and is reforming the galactic crime epire while Frieza and the gang are trying to stop him. Add some plot twists, some trickery etc... Much better than just another enemy fighter who is somehow stronger than everyone else before being the main focus.

Nice 💯 we need a new story line😅

Frieza’s definitely stronger than his dad, and at the time of his introduction, Cooler was stronger than Frieza. The manga itself never really takes a stance on the Frieza vs Cold debate. When the heroes feel their ki, they’re just described as being stronger than anyone else on Earth at the time, though Frieza does refer to himself as the strongest in the Universe a couple times and King Cold never contradicts him, so make of that what you will. The anime does add a bit of dialogue about the second, non-Frieza ki being even bigger than Frieza’s, but that’s undercut when Gohan says that what they’re sensing right now is just the tip of the iceberg, and that Frieza can get way stronger. It’s when we start diving into databooks and author interviews that we start getting a clearer picture. King Cold’s character biography in Daizenshuu 7 says “Though he’s the head of the strongest family in the universe, he is somewhat inferior to Frieza.” It was also stated in an interview leading up to Resurrection ‘F’ that “[Frieza’s] whole family is strong, but he alone is especially strong.” Mind you, there’s been a lot of speculation about whether or not Cold could transform, and while I tend to assume that he could, I would still say that at full power, he probably wouldn’t quite match up to Frieza’s maximum. Of course, this chain of thought primarily relates to Frieza as he appeared in the manga and the Dragon Ball Z TV series. If we’re taking Resurrection ‘F’ and Dragon Ball Super into account, there is no debate. He’s so much stronger than his dad that it isn’t funny. Likewise, Cooler was introduced to essentially be a more powerful version of Frieza. He had an extra strong advanced form that Frieza couldn’t pull off, and when he reappeared as an army of robots, he was more than a match Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta combined. And though Frieza has shot up past him, Cold still trails behind his sons. Source: Movie Guide | Dragon Ball Z Movie 05 Movie Guide | Dragon Ball Z Movie 06 Daizenshuu 7: Character Dictionary Kanzenshuu | Translations | Double Dragon Talk 2!!! (Naho Ooishi x Toyotarō)

If I remembered correctly I heard 2 dbz channels say. That the dbz Writer said if King Cold, went to his final form. Then his Power Level would be place around second form semi perfect Cell.

I think Toriyama didn't have any of this in mind when he made the chapter, he was just going along with his tradition of presenting a small and a huge enemy side by side.

I'm *Pretty* sure that Frieza meant in the state he was in he could defeat Goku from the Namek Saga, and is incapable of pushing himself further from his mechanical bits which would most likely fall off / fall apart from the growth of transforming to 100%

i always picture in my mind that cold's final form would be a mix between cooler's evolved final form and frieza's final form it would fit him perfectly, i also just think cold got smacked because neither him or frieza can sense power so they don't have a clue about power dif

King Cold was probably in his only form. Remember Freeza was a prodigy and also created forms to suppress his powers. It could of been possibly but I'd say unlikely, seeing he knew about the super Saiyans.

If he does then it shows how level headed Trunks is, not letting his rivals have the chance to get to full power

We know that Freiza's final form is his natural species form. Not the others that he uses. King Kold should have the same form and he uses this tall, less streamlined version to maintain his power level and intimidation. The way I look at it, he's older so he can maintain a higher power level than Freiza could, so Kold needed less forms. It's also Freiza probably never really needed the third form. So Kold has only one transformation and that is to the smaller sleek on like Freiza's. But it it's a 120x power boost but only 2x. So at his form when he was killed he might be only between 25-33% of his full final power. In either case, it would be equal or lower than SSJ Trunks or definitely lower than SSJ Goku.

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