Why Logan Is Better than Dark Knight Rises | SCENE FIGHTS! 

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Despite it's flaws I really like The Dark Knight Rises. It's better than most blockbusters today. And look at Batman's sacrifice like this. Batman did die. But Bruce Wayne lived. Oh and Baddoug is so cute.

I agree with you screen crush

Nice to know

@@v-rex6262 better than kotm lol and g fans say that movie was good when it really wasn’t

I remember when they casted him and fans complained about his height not being accurate 6,2 but it's 5,2 in the comics

He was born about 11 inches too tall to play wolverine

Too tall, Too handsome. You don't know wolverine.

Batman Begins: The best begin of a superhero. The Dark Knight: The best fall of a superhero. Logan: The best rise of a superhero.

Logan is a tough one to watch, especially when you've cared for someone with Alzheimer's.

@@waltercorleone9531 Nolan sucks and so do his movies.

Because Nolan sucks.

You forgot The Dark Knight Heals

I think youve made a great point!

@@ScreenCrush Thanks! I enjoyed the video and never would have thought to compare these two films.

His cadence is almost poetic. Brings me to tears.

Idk he seems too pretentious

😂😂😂😂

Not really half his points don’t make sense, or rather he doesn’t understand TDKR cause everything he said makes no damn sense.

Doug really needs his own spin off channel.

He must be some sort of savant, he definitely has special powers of his own.

Dude The Dark Knight Rises came out in 2012 and Logan came out in 2017. I don’t think they copied each other.

I think thats what they were building the whole trilogy. Bruce is always willing to put his life on the line because he doesnt fear death. The dark knight rises shows the continuation of this and its pinacle moment involves bruce reclaiming his will to live, it would be a great disservice to this arc if just 30 minutes later hes back to sacrificing himself. Instead he finally gets to move on and have the happiness he has been missing nearly his entire life.

Bruce Wayne would not retire even if he gets terminal cancer and has 1 month left to live.

@@alexfrank5331 sure he would. Hes done it a ton. Case in point, batman beyond.

It was stupid. I left the theater so mad

One Of The Best Nolan Movies Of All Time

Underrated conclusion to a trilogy and its a lot better than what people give it credit for, even though it fails to top the dark knight.

Underrated masterpiece.

@@asm_6168 The Dark Knight is highly overrated.

In the movie it's Charles is the one who killed the mutants Logan has been keeping this information from the increasingly senile professor-which we find out when Charles, on what will become his death bed, suddenly remembers everything. “I don't deserve it, do I?” he says of the idyllic night he, X-23, and Logan spend on an Oklahoma farm after fleeing the casino. “I did something. . . something unspeakable. I remembered what happened in Westchester. This is not the first time that I’ve hurt people. Until today, I didn’t know. You didn’t tell me, so we kept on running away from it. I think . . . I finally understand you.” As terrifyingly potent as Charles’s brain is, he didn’t actually wipe out all the mutants. Modern science took care of the rest. In an attempt to get control of mutantkind, or so he claims, the evil Dr. Zander Rice (Richard E. Grant) concocted a formula that would suppress the mutant gene. Unfortunately, his formula-present in the genetically-altered corn syrup his company was mass manufacturing-nearly wiped out the mutants instead. There are a few stragglers, like Stephen Merchant’s Caliban, who survived both Charles and Dr. Rice. Maybe albinos prefer a corn-, sugar-free paleo diet? .... Sauce : VanityFair

@@PS-ug7nm yeah I agree with that being explained (or foreshadowed) in the film

Expert that’s not at all confirmation in the movie version and you obviously didn’t pay attention to the film at all

Yea, I was thinking the same thing because if you go back and look at TDK, they show other shots of Batman stumbling and running into objects due to his leg and him limping. It was just a minor mistake he made lol.

Me too bruh

Yea it’s excellent. Both are great. Growth up with the Bane story in the comics I’m partial to DKRs. I also would have liked for Logan to have had Ian McKellen in it somehow.

I actually would have loved to have seen DKR as a three or four season series.

Same because plot isn’t a big deal for me

Same

Me too, to me seems too harsh on it. And lost me with thag pitch on how he would do the movie. I think Nolan knowshis craft

@@abrahammoya6913 It should be harsh especially after The Dark Knight was made. Nolan is a phenomenal director, thats we we expect more

@@Jane-qh2yd not that harsh, surely.

@@Jane-qh2yd He sucks, and so do his movies.

Too many illogical things and plot holes and plot contrivances in TDKR. The 1st 2 movies, especially TDK made me feel like if Batman was real, maybe this is what it would look like. TDKR on the other hand, just made me feel nope.

Technically Logan is the ending to the "wolverine solo trilogy"

Well, the thing is, The Dark Knight Rises, like all other sequels, is compared more to the movie(s) in the series that preceded it and because Batman Begins & The Dark Knight were both SO DAMN GOOD (Batman Begins is underappreciated in my opinion) that The Dark Knight Rises would have had to maintain a sort of level that no other trilogy has. For example, while I liked Return of the Jedi pretty much the same as I liked The Empire Strikes Back however it is widely held among critics to be the weakest of the three movies. However, again, like many trilogies, take that movie out and judge it on its own and you get something appreciated much more. Another example of this would be that Godfather trilogy. However, I think you would come to find (again, not in my opinion because, like I said, I think Batman Begins is majorly underappreciated) that The Dark Knight Rises breaks the trend among these examples. For example, if you look at the IMDB ratings, with The Godfather Trilogy you have: The Godfather - 9.2 The Godfather: Part II - 9.0 The Godfather: Part III - 7.6 A New Hope: - 8.6 Empire Strikes Back - 8.7 Return of the Jedi - 8.3 Batman Begins - 8.2 The Dark Knight - 9.0 The Dark Knight Rises - 8.4 As you can see, so many people found The Godfather to be the best of the trilogy which, in comparison to other trilogies, is not uncommon. However, for the other two, the 2nd movie happened to be found to be the best of the trilogies (considering how great the first of each of these trilogies are, the fact that the 2nd movie in the latter 2 are considered better as well as considering how great so many people found The Godfather 2 to be, is something that makes these trilogies not just unique, but probably the three of the four best trilogies in movie existence). If you add the trilogy ratings together, The Godfather is the best at a total of 25.8 but the other two are just barely behind at a total of 25.6, giving the entire Godfather trilogy an average of 8.6 and the latter 2 an average of 8.5. However, for you, you may find it refreshing to see (Although I do not agree), that The Dark Knight Rises bucked the trend with the other two with the third being the worst as Rises is considered to be better than Batman Begins. So, you see, whoever thinks The Dark Knight Rises gets a lot of hate can be directed to this fact, which is that it is considered to be better the best (by rating or by being considered better than the original - even if I don't agree). If you notice I said three out of the best four and that is because there is one trilogy that beats them all on IMDB. Again, that is not really my opinion, nor do I think Return of the King is the best of the three but what can you do? I would say IMDB was wrong but considering it is actually just based on millions of people voting, it's hard to say it is not the general opinion of the people, but who knows what the standard voter of IMDB looks like other than, I would guess, younger people...and maybe younger people that hasn't seen the Godfather movies. I don't know. Anyway, in case people are wondering, they are rated: Fellowship of the Ring - 8.8 The Two Towers - 8.7 Return of the King - 8.9 This means the Lord of the Rings trilogy has a 26.4 total, meaning an average of 8.8, which is insane. It is also rare in that the third is considered the best. Anyway, at least you know The Dark Knight Rises is appreciated quite a bit as it is liked more than Godfather Part III & The Return of the Jedi and that the feeling that it isn't amazing is pretty much based on people only comparing it to the first 2 movies in the trilogy rather than fairly considering the movie on its own.

@@funofboredom OK - this comment has to be a joke. You should think about it a little more and realize how silly that is (and the Dark Knight is one of my all time favorite movies).

They are all third entries

Yeah I think a lot of people just rush to defending Nolan without hearing me out.

@@ScreenCrush lol YESSIR

The Dark Knight Rises is excellent. It outshines 97% MCU movies, with the exceptions being Ragnarok, Infinity War and Endgame. It's also far better than the Dark Knight and slightly superior to Man of Steel and Batman v Superman.

What? It’s better than begins, 1st one is easily the weakest in the series

I’d argue that it’s better than Batman begins and I personally like it more than tdk

IMO TDKR is better than BB, the pacing is certainly worse than BB but it basically improves on everything else

@@Knoxkuma13 Well, to each his own I guess.

Logan is One Of The Best R Rated Movies Of All Time

@@lordvenjix3757 yes

ScreenCrush No

Endgame says hello

It's not even the best xmen film

Wow, thank you!

I disagree about the plot points being well told. The movie runs all over the map, literally, and barely has time to explore any of the ideas it throws at us.

@@ScreenCrush I dont agree. Bruces character journey is the heart and soul of Rises and for whatever little nitpicks you can throw at it, that part is executed absolutely perfectly. Its also the part that will be harmed the most by splitting it into the two movies.

Who didn’t?

We all did

I cried in tdkr too

I think you misspelled "overrated."

@@JohnCottier how is it overrated it’s usually people’s least fave It wasn’t perfect and the ending left a lot to dissire But it was a good film with good minentsb

@@JohnCottier Logan is more overrated

@@JohnCottier nah not at all it's underrated

Thanks! I disagree about Xavier's death. He held on long enough to remind Logan there was something worth fighting for.

no disagreement there

@@ScreenCrush Much love to ya and thanks for the great content.

I could've sworn it was your mom.

You're welcome 😊

Sucks.

Holy cow those are the most surface level comparisons I’ve ever seen lmaoo

Dude that easy. Everything depends on the script. Interesting lines, interesting characters. BoP seams off as hell. Everything in that movie is boring. The action scenes are stupid and made for kids. So fake. And all the dialogue is boring as it is Black Mask... That drag queen is nothing like the comics os the games version. Sucks.

I liked birds or prey more than Deadpool 2

@@internettraveler8666 I don't even believe that.

@@captainjefferies9047 have you seen it? It's a fine enough action flick and I really don't like deadpool's sense of humor

Working on a Lion King one now!

It's been 8 years tho

@@eyob.t1389 Im unsure of what u mean

He meant that if TDKR is set 8 years after the events of TDK, then Batman would’ve had more than enough time to heal from his injuries.

@@craftymasterproductions4218 fair enough but ur never told the extent of the injury until TDKR so it could well be that the injury was to severe to recover from especially if was out of commission

They will not, they will never because they are soooo blinded with one movie and around 100 years later also these dumb kids will stuck on dark Knight only.

He is too old

@@Jane-qh2yd too tall, too handsome, too Australian.

@@captainjefferies9047 wolverine is supposed to be 5’3

@@sumdomguoy548 Spider-Man can shoot webs.

X-------24?

Yeah, it's a mess.

Preach

I think you're right

He still absolutely brought his A-game though.

@@spencermalley10 His "a-Game" is a competent directors F game.

None?

@@ScreenCrush well none of the big one's.

Hard to argue with that statement, but Rises is definitely the weakest film. I think Nolan was over it by then.

@@ScreenCrush Would you have preferred a new director replace him for the third movie?

Spencer Malley i don’t see anyone who could do that other than nolan

That was an adaptation, so the rules don't really apply to DKR. Harry Potter was also a disaster when it was split. But if you're writing a script from scratch, you can frame the story however you like. The dark Knight trilogy was epic, and it deserved an epic ending

@@ScreenCrush you have a point that liberties can be taken, I’ll give you that. My point was less that DKR had no choice but to not do a 2-part and more rather that there are few circumstances that a 2-parter works well. What the avengers pulled off benefited from many, many characters having a story arc so there was a lot to put into two movies. I don’t think DKR had enough characters to pull off a 2-parter without it dragging in certain points.

@@ScreenCrush It got an epic ending.

Thanks for Noticing

That move sucked too.