Why SANDY MUNRO is Excited About APTERA ( & Other 3-Wheel EVs ) 

Your a good man take care Sir..

God Bless!

@Jack Ophelott Ditto!

It would be nice, but this car has been in the making since the early 2000's. Millions of Americans have placed deposits with this company for a car that was never manufactured. Just saying. Too bad the government doesn't get a hold of this, and make it into mass production so the average Joe can afford a car for under $10,000.00. With over 300 million people in America, that should be feasable.

Best of luck to you my friend. God Bless and take care

It has to succeed, it's the only way that we remove reliance on gas

Sign up soon. There is a long waiting list so you probably wouldn’t get it for another two years.

Why does having an existing car lease stop you signing up now? That makes no sense....

That’s cool the body actually has the highest crush strength of any car currently on the market I don’t know if they met armored cars but that’s a different animal anyway that’s custom more or less the standard cars is supposedly the strongest body so I’d say it’s safe on the highway in the urban whatever good luck with your purchase

After already has the strongest body of any car currently being manufactured stronger than any of them extremely safe

The exact same, except I also have the Cybertruck on order, which will be sitting next to my Aptera.

Aptera's entrance with their huge range and superior aerodynamics really puts pressure on Arcimoto. It's going to force Arcimoto further down the path they've been heading to powersports territory. Aptera will be truly capable of going cross-country. Arcimoto will be for in-town and get trailered for road trips. Nobe & Bricklin will be low production-volume high-end toys.

In my state the Aptera is considered an Autocycle which does not require a motorcycle license nor a helmet in that regards either.

Sad, killing self coz of failing to cope, i hope advances in psyche science lead to preventing this tragedy. Let’s all pray that we get wisdom from Bible- basic instructions before leaving earth🙏😇

@@dina0819 No thanks.

Sad

Does anyone really believe the guy killed himself. It’s like the three farmers here in the state of Washington that came up with a system for making fuel just as everything was about to takeoff for some mysterious reason they all three had accidents and we’re dead and suddenly all their stuff kind of just disappeared into the woodwork equipment plans

@@gregkelmis2435 what was the names of the farmers, their company and the process?

I've heard 1.1 and 1.3

@@CuulX can't be over 1. Unless you would drive backwards.

@@loungelizard836 I meant 0.11 and 0.13 oops

@@CuulX 1.1 is like a brick wall xD

The cybertruk is a energy hog compared to the efficient aptera. I do not understan this american thing about my truck is biggerthan yours....

@@timjoe62 For something like a limo service, Cybertruck can hold 5 passengers. For companies that tow a trailer, Cybertruck can outperform a pickup truck for much lower energy costs. Imagine 4 trucks going from $500/week for fuel to $100/week electric. That business just saved $1600 per week and stops a huge amount of pollution. Is Cybertruck overkill for a daily driver compared to Aptera? Sure, but it's still twice as good as a smaller ICE vehicle.

I put $100 on my Cybertruck reservation in 2019 and $100 on Aptera in 2022. Whichever gets to my market first wins. I want both, but I’ll let the competition decide.

@@Avenger24601 I want both too but can only afford one. I live up in the mountains though, and the Cybertruck meets my needs, especially if I can get a snowplow for it. Then I'll be a 1 vehicle family, one of my goals. My wife died 3 years ago so I'm down to the Model 3 and my Tundra which does my hauling and snow removal. My girlfriend bought a new Model S and we've been traveling in it. It's a great car, but I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't really notice much difference between it and a new Model 3 other than the $50k difference in price. The one thing I really like about the S is the heated steering wheel. The FSD is great too but I have that on my 2018 Model 3.

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@@unclegeorge7845 why not?

Think there is restrictions that only allow a single passenger on vehicles like Aptera.

@@DuesenbergJ That'll be a bummer

@@DuesenbergJ It's a two seater.

No way to make a rear seating 'option'. That would be a completely different vehicle. Not saying that they won't do that, but expect years, not months.

@@CorwynGC Yea I'm hoping rear seating for one person, maybe two

I highlighted and right clicked on "three wheeled Tesla" from your comment to search on Ecosia for that term. Not much luck. You might have to try multiple search engines. I even dug through a forum thread from 2008-2011 and there were many pictures posted of other 3-wheelers of the time (crazy to see old Arcimoto prototypes) but nothing from Tesla.

The only evidence of a three-wheeled Tesla that Sandy mentions is a video he saw on the internet. Just say'n...

He's probably referring to AC propulsion tzero which was before elon absorbed AC propulsion and eventually turned it into tesla

@@sulimanTC Those three cars had four wheels. One remains.

@@unclegeorge7845 I stand corrected it was 4 wheels. Idk why I remember the tzero being a 3 wheeler for some reason

Tesla market is further up the scale. Right now, low cost three wheelers don’t suit their narrative. But they could support the small guys with motors and batteries.

I wouldn’t say it’s a mistake. There needs to be different companies doing different things and this is good!

"abandon traditional crash safety measures" The fact they don't have to obey to these safety measures makes me nervous. There is always the ability to let go of the handle bar and jump on a bike but feet first into a wall?! Prove me wrong because I would love to see this things for people transportation.

@@tarant315 He said there will be crush zones, which is the most important thing in collision. Severity of impact depends on speed and the distance where that speed comes to zero. Feet first in real impact helps nothing. It just make huge stresses to spine. Humand starts to get severe damages in about 30g acceleration and have high propability of death in 75. To soften 30g impact, legs would need to support 30 times of body weight and activate the force in milliseconds. In pratice, they don’t do nothing. In safe impact, cabin needs to maintain shape and have as long deacceleration distance as possible. Abandoning traditional safety requirements don’t necessary mean the vehicle is unsafe. There are other things that matter too. In Aptera and front collision, wheels absorb the impact first and then there are crush structure on nose. Also driving position matters. There are also no engine at the front which could crush you. The mass itself don’t provide safety. It is kind of selfish way to gain false safety. It protects you in impact against lighter vehicle but in generally don’t add safety.

Sacrifice on safety the body is the strongest body of any vehicle currently on the market very safe vehicle

Wow @Tero Piispala, exactly ditto for me! I have a 10' 2,200 lbs pop-up trailer requiring my 2015 Outback to pull, and I live in cold/wet/sometimes snowy-icy/ potholed Vancouver, BC.. Yet I placed a reservation on a 400kwh model with full panels and off-road pkg. I need to make 1-2 annual treks to LA, CA, and intend to use the Aptera for this trek, and for a daily driver in Vancouver unless weather forces me to to use the Outback. Plan to use 110 a/c outlet at home to keep at 80% charge level (unless Aptera switches to LFP battery chemistry by the time I get it - in which case they'll probably suggest maintaining 100% full charge). I don't anticipate them getting to my reservation until likely 2024 or 2025. (I wouldn't surprised if they collapsed again (like in 2012). But I agree/like the Aptera approach/concept so much I'm gonna stick with them as long as they last. (I build both low-rolling resistance sub 19lbs bikes and also an e-bike DIY'er - making my own power packs. Aptera's approach to range anxiety and power grid problem by focusing on rolling resistance, weight, and power management are the same issues with e-bikes too.

And it needs to be light weight too

That's exactly what I'm thinking

Living through winter in Michigan right now. Sad that I'm not able to take out the e-bike. There's something just so satisfying and addicting about having 2 wheels and a throttle!

I'm pretty sure the price is 25k, and after the EV rebate, it can be had for as low as 18K. It's a steal

@@dmitriskiba4361 it really is when you consider that you’ll spend a few hundred dollars a year on charging compared to thousands for ice

@@shake6321 tbh i wouldn't even need regular charging since I only drive

@@benjaminmeusburger4254 i think i am in the same boat. I prob wont order the 1st generation but will def look into this car in 2024 or 25. best of luck if you get it

Biton, Acrimoto, Aptera and the cancelled Elio...anything from India? Should be they do lots of three wheelers there.

Got it yet?

Not that hard, really. Elio, for openers, is still gas powered, even if it does get over 80 mpg. Also the website talks about over 65,000 people putting money down on one, and a award for automotive startups awarded in 2015. But it doesn't talk about the number of cars delivered. It could barely mention its association with Roush, better known for tuning Ford Mustangs in a media release, and the last actual news story mentioned in their media area was during the 2016 election. The Elio website makes their idea look like a dead letter.

It's not credible until it actually produces cars. I lost money with Elio Motors and learned my lesson.

Haha

Aptera has not announced their battery supplier yet and are under NDA's. However, Aptera grants right to repair, so all the information you would need will become available. In order to increase safety, Aptera has decided to make the battery packs structural. This means that if you are using the Aptera designed configuration, the battery packs would have to be swapped out rather than added to if you wished to increase the size. They will not be designed to make it easy to add cells to a smaller pack.

Aptera plans to use widely available P195/45R16 size tires. (this could change slightly with the results of performance testing). Tire changing is done by unclipping the wheel pants and unbolting the wheels, just like with any car, -probably with the need to disconnect a coolant line and electrical lines before removing them. When this is done, it would probably be a good idea to replace the wheel seals as well. We will know a lot more about this as time goes on. The only other maintenance besides tires will be windshield wipers, windshield washer fluid, and likely a safety inspection every 150,000 miles or so, with possible replacement of the cooling solutions (antifreeze) at that time. I plan to carry a tire plug kit and 12 volt air pump for temporary repair, just as I did on my motorcycle road trips. Safety has been just as strong a focus on the design as aerodynamics. Here is a quote from their FAQ: "We will not know Aptera's actual rating until we pass a production vehicle through the full safety test. But we are designing to exceed all passenger car standards and the previous version had the highest roof crush strength of all passenger cars on the road, and it performed exceedingly well in actual side and frontal crash tests. Aptera features a Formula One-inspired safety cell with advanced composites and metal structures for impact strength. Similar to aerospace and racing, these energy-absorbing methods are a core part of our safety strategy and have proven effective time and time again in high speed impacts." I currently drive a Gen 1 Honda Insight that weighs about the same 1800 lbs as the 40 kWh pack Aptera. My first one protected me without injury when I was hit from behind at 60 mph by a large car on the highway.. I expect the Aptera will be even safer in such an event, and the Safety Pilot option might even protect me from such an event entirely.

Sandy was talking about the domestic plugs in Europe not car charging where CCS-2 is now the standard.

@@wholmes7177 I'm in the UK and have an adapter plug that converts to every socket in the world, I don't know why that would be a problem? The UK and Europe have the voltage, anyway, so that type of outlet charger should not be used on a regular basis as it can overload your electric wiring in your house.

@@markreed9853 He's right about the suggestion it's heavy, though. What you call "Type 2" often requires bringing the cable with you. What we call "Level 2" has a cable and J-1772 plug on it waiting for you at the chargepoint. In Canada and the U.S., the chargepoint always has the cable (except for Level 1, which is just a wall outlet the destination had provided for you). I wonder if your typical adaptor plug can reliably handle the kind of energy an e-car is sucking down?

Yeah this was settled, Tesla is the only holdout and only in North America. Some Chinese minis use a dumb 240VAC plug. that's the only variance. The real problems are #V2G communication through the plug.

The Aptera also has differential steering, including tank turns.

Absolutely. I'm imagining these cars could really become the norm for certain situations, particularly hotter places with wider roads. They're very much for single/couples which makes one wonder how the principles would work on a vehicle for more people. And for carrying stuff. And in places like here, UK, where space is at a premium, roads are narrow, weather is awful. Or is it a niche that's quite specific? Hmmm It takes me back to my earlier musings where it's better to take the wind resistance out of the roads... ie long tubes where the air flow matches the traffic, probably on main roads only - autonomous vehicles on side roads, joining fast automated travel with no wind resistance.

That's what he thought in 2021 - pretty quiet in 22.

Why is no one talking about this guy mysteriously committing suicide after running into financial problems.

@@jasonelwoodhanna8021 Probably because it wasn't noteworthy or news worthy. Sandy may have been the only one who knew much about it.

@@keilan7896 I actually heard about this paint thing in a science article a few years back it has been talked about

I saw a picture of the three-wheeled Tesla once or twice, but that was it. I do see a few articles relating to it when searching for it.

US, China, Japan seem to be doing different things. Everyone else is using type 2 and CCS as a standard, Tesla even use it as a standard outside of America. As for the British 3 pin plug, it's used in a fair few places around the world and pretty much the best safety wise.