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Why we should show our hurt rather than argue 

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Our tendencies, when we’ve been slighted by our partner, is to wound them back immediately. We would have far calmer relationships and kinder ones too, if we could just reveal our hurt - rather than inflict it back.
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“Arguments in relationships are typically so regrettable and often so bitter, it’s natural to hope we might - with greater maturity - overcome them once and for all. But given what human nature is like, it would be unwise to make this our goal: the hope can’t be to eliminate arguments altogether, it should be to try to find our way to a better kind of argument.
Arguments tend to start when we are confronted - usually rather suddenly - by what appears to us to be the radical selfishness, intransigence or sheer nastiness of the partner…”
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@GenJotsu
@GenJotsu 6 лет назад
Showing weakness takes a lot of strength. Ironic
@GenJotsu
@GenJotsu 6 лет назад
It's infinitely harder when you want to show weakness to someone who doesn't understand the gift of vulnerability you're showing them. Those type of people are the reason why we don't show our vulnerable side.
@Zeldarw104
@Zeldarw104 6 лет назад
Jo King Yup! I've got a family that act like vultures, if you show any weakness. Sad to say, I feel like prey constantly.
@GenJotsu
@GenJotsu 6 лет назад
Zelda Williams Same with underdeveloped bullies. Their own insecurities causes them to lash out on others to feed their ego. Be better than them.
@koushikworldian9239
@koushikworldian9239 6 лет назад
Jo King yes unnecessary strength n easily exhaustive strength
@2009shumy
@2009shumy 6 лет назад
You know what else is hard? Having the strenght to stop the circle of hatred. You know, when someone do you wrong, then you get back to them, and then someone who loves them get back at you and so on... But having the strength to stop, and break the circle by not pursuin vengeance... that's strength.
@laela6289
@laela6289 6 лет назад
This is amazing advice but it's very situational. Don't do this with a narcissist, or anyone who is emotionally immature. In both childhood and adulthood I've expressed when I'm hurt to my parents, and their immediate reaction was denial, rejection and gas-lighting. Rarely will they apologize and soften up. My mother, who adores being the victim in any circumstance, can never bring herself to a proper apology, it is always "I'm sorry you misinterpreted what I said" to anyone and everyone.... If you practice this with these type of people, it can draw up a lot of resentment and make it harder to open up (or be open) to someone who is genuinely emotionally there for you. So yes, good advice, but be careful. The supportive and emotionally vulnerable girlfriend is not always the reaction. Sometimes she'll lash out and say you're making her out to be the villain.
@juliegathman2923
@juliegathman2923 6 лет назад
Good comment! Thanks.
@UrbanCommentBot
@UrbanCommentBot 6 лет назад
I agree. A bit of wisdom is needed her. I don't feel it discredits the advice tho. I think it gives an opportunity for the person on the other side to hang themselves and when you walk away from them and make healthier choices for themselves, you would be able to do it with a clear conscience and they would have less amo out on your for because they know they were being a POS. I say that from experience because I have learned to exist this way with toxic people in my life and it has made my life much better. I have a choice and responsibility to myself. If they choose to keep up with the crap that's on them. I choose to exercise truth and I can peacefully exclude myself from any situation that's not going to yield that. Blessings to you and yours.
@sarahmedouni8844
@sarahmedouni8844 6 лет назад
i couldn't agree more
@KhemistrySet
@KhemistrySet 6 лет назад
Excellent - if you deal with someone with genuine Narcissist Personality Disorder/Histronic Personality or a sociopath, you will be like fresh meat to a tiger. Great vid but this will only work with people who are relatively empathic & want to heal the relationship. There are many emotional predators out there! Watch out!
@splitwun
@splitwun 6 лет назад
Kæla Brown you just described my life
@In_time
@In_time 6 лет назад
My only qualm: "I know it's stupid, but..." No. It's not stupid to feel unimportant when you're trying to have a conversation about something that matters to you with someone that matters to you. It's not stupid to feel hurt or to ask to have just a moment of their undivided attention😕
@ADreamBee4618
@ADreamBee4618 6 лет назад
in time I agree, I have found saying something like: "I know it might seem small but it really makes me feel *positive feeling here* when you put your phone down" works well :) Focusing most on what makes you feel loved/heard/appreciated/adored, instead of ignored/resentment, etc. Is what (in my personal opinion) feels best. Your partner (unless they are narcissistic, psychopathic, etc.) naturally wants to make you feel loved and happy and satisfied, focusing on those ways they do that and can continue to do that can shift the conversation in INCREDIBLE ways!
@bayana5121
@bayana5121 6 лет назад
Ash That's an even better way I will use it thanks
@In_time
@In_time 6 лет назад
Ash yaaaas🙌🏻
@dimitrab6485
@dimitrab6485 5 лет назад
I completely agree with you... I also take this action of taking your phone out as a huge insult and disrespect to the people in the room. But then I thought (to play devil's advocate) that perhaps the importance we assign to this motion is not that important, for example the woman might not even realize she's ignoring him just because it's become automatic through habit or even addiction, and also (as she says later in the video), she might also be in a rough state of mind herself. Anyway... no matter what, showing vulnerability usually makes things better than taking an aggressive stance.
@gonzalogallardo6028
@gonzalogallardo6028 6 лет назад
You guys should make a video (or probably a series) on *how* to show weakness and how to deal with someone revealing their weakness to you. Finding the words and the moment to do so can be very hard.
@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv 6 лет назад
Yes, good idea, thanks!
@IPOCRI
@IPOCRI 6 лет назад
well first you have to know yourself, second you have to be objective, third you have to tell the truth of how you feel. if the other persons opens up show true compassion: listen, dont give advice if they dont particular ask for it, let them know you understand them. this might be general but I think thats how it should it be.
@samanthawong7857
@samanthawong7857 6 лет назад
The School of Life And also please please please make a video about how to do so in front of a crowd of bystanders. I just couldn’t bring myself to show any weakness when there are others who I irrationally believe will prey on my weakness
@dimitrab6485
@dimitrab6485 5 лет назад
Great idea. I would argue the point is not only the words (although they do play a very important role, and are indeed often hard to find) but the way to always "find the right words" (you aren't obviously going to memorize lines to respond with during an emotional situation) is to truly practice trying to get in the other's state of mind and not jump to bad conclusions and blame. Then one would naturally become less aggressive and more neutral in their vocabulary also, I would guess.
@hamzasaleem3897
@hamzasaleem3897 6 лет назад
Because most of us are emotionally immature
@SelimxBradley
@SelimxBradley 6 лет назад
And our egos so fragile
@MLMLML000
@MLMLML000 6 лет назад
Hamza Saleem TRU
@GreatJobTy
@GreatJobTy 6 лет назад
Well I create quick videos for people who want to change & improve!! My videos have helped viewers with gaining confidence, eliminating anxiety, and much more! If you're interested stop by- It’s free!!
@aywancfc
@aywancfc 6 лет назад
GreatJobTy no
@hamzasaleem3897
@hamzasaleem3897 6 лет назад
GreatJobTy I have visited your channel , amazing job you've done . You discuss some of my favorite and some of the most important topics out there like freedom , emotional skills, people skill masculinity and others. Keep up the good work brother
@easilyamused4678
@easilyamused4678 6 лет назад
This is assuming the person you are talking to is capable of compassion lol
@UrbanCommentBot
@UrbanCommentBot 6 лет назад
Easily Amused I suppose if one discovers the person they're involved with isn't compassionate, then they would or should know then that that person may not be the best choice for themselves, perhaps?
@y34r
@y34r 6 лет назад
if you show them your vulnerability and they don’t care, maybe it’s the sign your relationship is toxic. and why bother staying with them any longer?
@Ichiko980
@Ichiko980 6 лет назад
Then you have to let go mate.
@MelanieApples
@MelanieApples 6 лет назад
this is the comment inwas looking for. and it's even worse when it's family, especially when said attitude leads to them screaming at you that you're 'self-centered'.
@Shinkajo
@Shinkajo 6 лет назад
MrsRDub It can take a long time to figure it out though.
@cimy4330
@cimy4330 6 лет назад
Haha last time I told someone I was hurt by what they said, I was told that I was being "too emotional". And so, the argument began. 😂💔
@juliegathman2923
@juliegathman2923 6 лет назад
Yup, telling somehow you are hurt is a criticism. They do not want to hear it.
@DarkCuriosity
@DarkCuriosity 6 лет назад
We can't control someone elses reactions. Sometimes even explaining calmly doesn't get us the support we need, it doesnt always work that way and to be honest he sounded very apologetic. Sometimes people will explode or find things offensive no matter how calmly we state our point.
@heatherbryant4197
@heatherbryant4197 6 лет назад
As a woman, I find vulnerability in men almost invariably attractive. Many feel so much pressure to be stoic or "strong" that it feels hard to get to know the real person within. So revealing weakness to me feels like a gesture of trust, which I find ultimately flattering. (Egocentric motivation, I suppose 😏 at least in part) I am slow to trust, so the vote of confidence means worlds to me. However, I will admit there are caveats: 1. When someone has hurt me very badly, and they express guilt or shame upon releazing my hurt, I do feel somewhat satisfied and take pleasure in their pain, but only to the extent that I feel it "evens the score" (no more than I hurt for no longer than I hurt). This is only in extreme situations. 2. ‎When people use a facade of "honesty" as an excuse for being an asshole or venting raw emotion carelessly without any effort towards tact or self-restraint. (Basically launching a personal attack under the guise of "just being honest.") 3. ‎When I feel their expressing "hurt" is actually a tale of woe aimed at manipulating my emotions intentionally to make me feel sorry for them and reduce their culpability. Or if I notice that particular person seems to have a pervasive victim mentality, even if they are not consciously aware of it. This is frustrating. Taking responsibility is key. As a general rule of thumb, I can deal with sadness quite well, but not anger. Anger antagonizes, whereas sadness invites empathy.
@FuryBrazil
@FuryBrazil 6 лет назад
I'm a simple man, I see Jack Howard, I press the like button.
@fairytalles
@fairytalles 6 лет назад
É o Jack Howard hausdhuas
@AnekoFoxx
@AnekoFoxx 6 лет назад
The parallel the guy showed vulnerability by expressing how he was hurt? Well, the “bad” parallel to the “good” parallel would have been if she wasn’t acknowledging and accepted that she hurt him. Sometimes, if you tell someone that they hurt your feelings and how they hurt you, they’ll deny their part and blame you for being “too sensitive/emotional” or “I shouldn’t have to walk around eggshells around you” translation,”I have to think about what I say to you before I say it. I don’t want to be respectful of your thoughts and feelings.” or “Then, I must be the monster or the bad guy.” After, they’ll entice you to fight or argue back with them so they don’t feel like they’re the only monster or bad guy, thus they will push you to say something just as cruel or malicious so they feel they are on equal footing. “Now we’re both hurt, so you can’t say shit else.”
@Marvlingh
@Marvlingh 6 лет назад
I was about to write that I like the animated videos more, but after watching it I have to acknowledge that the acting is firstly very good and secondly necessary to address the problem properly. So for me you are currently the best channel on RU-vid and I hope that you will get many more subscribers. Not just because this channel deserves it but because everyone needs to watch this! :)
@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv 6 лет назад
Thank you so much - also for your candid admission of your initial suspicion of acting films. We know what you mean; but feel that with Khyan Mansley, we have a great director who can turn out films of real insight.
@juliegathman2923
@juliegathman2923 6 лет назад
The scenario in this video SOMETIMES works. But the statement it contains, at the turning point, that "a calm dignified confession of vulnerability is nearly impossible to ignore," is often not true. Revealing to someone that he has hurt you is an implied criticism and he doesn't want to see himself as someone who hurts others, so he is annoyed by this statement, and hurts you even more. But, I appreciated the effort that went into this video because it does reveal a reflexive response that can sometimes be intercepted. So, thank you for the video.
@juliawebster3405
@juliawebster3405 6 лет назад
Great with an empathetic partner/friend. Not so good with a narcissist - in that situation you need to act confident and let things roll of your back.
@TheSolidfoxhound
@TheSolidfoxhound 6 лет назад
Sounds good, doesn't work. Got more hurt and felt like a lil bitch when i confessed that i was hurt and got no right replies at all.
@idk-jy6cc
@idk-jy6cc 6 лет назад
Andy FoxHound well, then you know that person doesn't truly care. Or they were very upset at the moment. In my opinion, It's always best to keep a level head as best as possible and avoid possible aggressive digs or getting angry because there's just no need for that in the majority of situations. Just adds more crap into the situation to get mad at each other for and then it's an endless cycle of bickering. If they don't care to actually resolve the issue (you or both being hurt) then they most likely have some personal issue to deal with that's not really about you 100%.
@krino5093
@krino5093 6 лет назад
Andy FoxHound school of thought thinks they know it all lmao
@andmicbro1
@andmicbro1 6 лет назад
Yeah, I wish. It's never that easy to disarm an argument. I've tried all those little tricks before, but if the other person is the one who initially gets hurt and then lashes out it's hard to identify and neutralize.
@Esther15889
@Esther15889 6 лет назад
And what happens when you tell your partner he hurt you, but he continues to do the same, and then blame you for feeling hurt and angry?
@juliegathman2923
@juliegathman2923 6 лет назад
Several of us have this question. That is my question too. School of Life, please work on answering this!
@petersoar2886
@petersoar2886 6 лет назад
Errrmmmm, leave him?!
@Esther15889
@Esther15889 6 лет назад
Yes. I mean, of course, that is the answer. My question is the one that is being asked when we let the desperation about things we can`t change consumes us. When we wish so much that things are different and when we can`t comprehend how a person we loved and respected so much can hurt us so badly. At least, I am in that stage. Up until now, I could not imagine that one of the hardest things in the world is leaving the person you love, even though you know you have to.
@laca2201
@laca2201 6 лет назад
upravo moj problem!
@Esther15889
@Esther15889 6 лет назад
U slučaju moje veze radilo se o sebičnosti, nerazumevanju i nedostatku saosećanja. Možemo samo da se nadamo da će se osoba promeniti, a ako ne, sakupimo svu podršku iz okoline koju možemo, i odemo.
@e.t.464
@e.t.464 6 лет назад
*I want to address the line: "I have a big ego by asking you for your attention, forgive me".* Asking someone for their attention doesn't mean you have a big ego, it simply means you want to connect. If said person has abruptly stopped conversing with to play Candy Crush or Facebook, that is fine, you can leave them be and have the conversation another time or you can ask them for their attention. _I feel that should be said. if you think I am wrong then by all means, critique me.
@TheTorridestCheese
@TheTorridestCheese 6 лет назад
Didn't he say fragile ego?
@e.t.464
@e.t.464 6 лет назад
You must have the "fragile ego".
@wemestros
@wemestros 6 лет назад
JACK HOWAAAAAAAAARD
@heydoeradio7298
@heydoeradio7298 6 лет назад
ESC Stella marry Christmas Jack Howard!!!!!!!!!
@thehd9405
@thehd9405 6 лет назад
ESC Stella literally was ganna type the same thing 😆
@shalalaanais
@shalalaanais 6 лет назад
i literally read the comments to find this one, Jack is the best
@rea8585
@rea8585 6 лет назад
No argument is deadly until you argue with Cersei Lannister.
@revitellect3129
@revitellect3129 6 лет назад
Woah! Hey, Quick Fix! Nice to see you here :D
@Winkmeister
@Winkmeister 6 лет назад
Quick Fix or Killary...
@dark_emperor9427
@dark_emperor9427 6 лет назад
She will just order the mountain to chop ur head off after 1 min of arguing 😂
@genetix7173
@genetix7173 6 лет назад
or my mother.
@QuesoCookies
@QuesoCookies 6 лет назад
Only works when your partner recognizes vulnerability as an opportunity to connect rather than "win." Otherwise, the recrimination is just "Oh, so I can't check my phone anymore? You're right, you really are immature. How can we have an adult conversation when phones make you insecure?" etc. etc.
@wadalharbi7207
@wadalharbi7207 6 лет назад
3 hours ago I had the same thing with my partner At first I was angry and we argued about stupid things for half an hour Before we go to bed he saw how sad i was and asked me in such a deep kind way " why are U upset " " did I hurt you?" Anger always makes things worse.
@yukisshadow
@yukisshadow 5 лет назад
It's actually hilarious, because it's Jack Howard, and also because he is actually an excellent actor. But because of that reason, it is perfect. This funny little life is filled with complications, and it is wonderful to figure it all out with someone. I love my partner so much. I would rather a difficult conversation that is resolved, and a happy life than think that I could somehow do it better on my own. I love that I am told that I have done something wrong, it means. "Please do this differently next time, because I know you love me. Please show me in the ways I can understand, when difficult situations arise"
@juansinmiedo7096
@juansinmiedo7096 6 лет назад
Moving and funny at the same time. Congrats to the actors, they did it great.
@angeler105
@angeler105 6 лет назад
Not working for me.... a person keeps hurting me and refusing to talk to me. No matter if I tell her I'm hurt or if I get mad. She just doesn't care. And I care for her so much. She's my sister, so it's not like I'll ever walk away from her. What can I do but just hurt silently? Addressing what's hurting you isn't always the answer because sometimes the person really is selfish and they aren't going to care.
@marianahiga2790
@marianahiga2790 6 лет назад
This is so real. I thought it was just me who wanted to hurt the ones I love when feeling mysterious hurt. Thank you for this amazing video!
@UkuleleAversion
@UkuleleAversion 6 лет назад
This rarely works in real life. This video assumes: 1. That most people are reasonable 2. That most people are compassionate 3. That most people wouldn't see the 'showing of hurt' as another argument or criticism
@mephistophelesthesilentchi3446
If we care more about WHAT we feel than WHY we feel it, we lash out instead of reach out.
@jakesmith8171
@jakesmith8171 6 лет назад
but how to deal with non-lovers exactly..
@luckyowl10
@luckyowl10 6 лет назад
exaclty. explain explain explain, don't use revenge, just let the other person know why it made you feel bad :)
@isabellapreston5101
@isabellapreston5101 6 лет назад
this is so important
@perpetualjon
@perpetualjon 6 лет назад
This is a skill that has taken years for me to learn. It is still terrifying to be so vulnerable but also rare for others to be honest about what they're feeling internally. This is an amazingly well constructed presentation on the concept. Bravo!!
@juliegathman2923
@juliegathman2923 6 лет назад
I agree, it is well done and natural and interesting. But some of us have partners who hurt us more when we tell them they are hurting us. They don't want to see themselves in such a bad light.
@varvorines
@varvorines 6 лет назад
Just found this channel. This channel is a treasure!
@Shishmish6
@Shishmish6 6 лет назад
I was really mad at my boyfriend for some reason and after spending an hour thinking about how we'll most probably get into an argument and started typing a really mean message, I remembered I watched this video a week or so ago (just came across it and thought I should probably watch it, since my mood swings are crazy sometimes). I can honestly say this worked, I explained why I felt hurt and for what seems like the first time ever since we had our first fight, he apologized and reassured me that everything is okay instead of doing exactly the same as I used to do - being mean. Love this channel, I'll try to watch more of these soon.
@amirj5232
@amirj5232 6 лет назад
I love this channel. One of the most insightful places on RU-vid in my opinion.
@theslitherysylvie4010
@theslitherysylvie4010 6 лет назад
I love these insights and life lessons, but it can be so difficult to interact with people in a honest and calm way. I usually approach issues that upset me calmly because I truly want to understand their perspective. I tend to assume the worse unless people clarify. However, often people just shut down or get angry, no matter how nicely and fairly I try to express my hurt feelings. I try so much to live honestly with myself, and I am by no means "perfect" and usually apologize even when I dont feel I am wrong, simply because of the rejection whenever I want to have a calm, honest talk about feelings. All my relationships have this issue. I wish I knew what I am doing that makes everyone I love push me away.
@Wowed45
@Wowed45 5 лет назад
I almost cried watching this, this is the level of communication I want to be on sooooo bad
@auroragismrles5849
@auroragismrles5849 4 года назад
Whenever I showed feelings of hurt my ex boyfriend will tell me: "You are always making me the villain, I'm always mean, I always hurt you" And when I got mad he will insult me even worst. There is just no winning with some people.
@coreycox2345
@coreycox2345 6 лет назад
I like how they learn to communicate better on this one thing, then argue about something else afterwards. It seems realistic to point out that this will not end all conflict.
@MrIDONTKNOW01
@MrIDONTKNOW01 6 лет назад
I think being genuine and not being fake is also a battle in relationships. So the question is, should we vent how we feel in the moment? Hurt has so many levels and it's embedded within aspects of our personality that can make us toxic. For some couples they agree to show each other's toxic tendencies so nothing surprises one another in the future.
@sydandtaytum
@sydandtaytum 6 лет назад
there was a time not very long ago that i would never reveal if someone hurt me. i'm really proud of myself that i recently told an ex that he hurt me. it's liberating, actually, when you tell the truth. it also gives the other person permission to be vulnerable too. i suggest everyone try it.
@hcpiano
@hcpiano 6 лет назад
We often dont show our weakness because if the other person then takes the advantage of that and carries on with agressive arguing he would then really hurt you emotionally
@TheBest-mf9hv
@TheBest-mf9hv 4 года назад
Those who simply want to argue, rather than express how they truly feel, are some of the most emotionally immature amongst us. They'd rather argue and cling to the particulars of a situation, rather than try to come to any sort of a mutual understanding.
@MarkovicAleksandra
@MarkovicAleksandra 6 лет назад
Jack on the School of life!!! I wasn't expecting this and I am very happy about that
@7andala95
@7andala95 6 лет назад
I love this style of videos ! Keep them videos coming ❤️🎶
@gabrielenriquemartinezllan479
@gabrielenriquemartinezllan479 6 лет назад
I love this format with real scenerios. Keep it going.
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 6 лет назад
partner a) you have hurt me b) ok, i see this. However you have also hurt me a) I understand, however i feel that you have hurt me even more. b) i accept your position, but it is important for me that you understand that I am the one who is the most hurt. Passive aggressive millennial argument.
@EverlifeGame
@EverlifeGame 6 лет назад
You missed the point, bud.
@o.t.d_ody_the_dreamer
@o.t.d_ody_the_dreamer 6 лет назад
François Maspuche How does one watch a video, with a clear meaning. Then decide tp creaye their own meaning. He's missed the fucking point. How's that for passive agrresive.
@whereaboutsunknown3822
@whereaboutsunknown3822 6 лет назад
It's a joke people. He's showing us here that the partners are showing vulnerability and hurt, but are still arguing.
@MartinDeHill
@MartinDeHill 6 лет назад
Damn those millenials for inventing passive aggressiveness!
@bluecovenalley
@bluecovenalley 6 лет назад
yea right? all these baby boomers with their factual arguments were SO much better... what a bunch of idiots this generation has become, let us all go back to the time of our parents who lived the ~real life without the demonic invention of the internet
@KoreanwithMissVicky
@KoreanwithMissVicky 6 лет назад
Beautiful message! Vulnerability is precious :)
@coccoborg
@coccoborg 6 лет назад
Short and very practical, thanks!
@pernielsen7510
@pernielsen7510 6 лет назад
These videos are wonderful. I love how you show a little piece of what could have been any one persons life and then show how to improve upon the relationship. However, I feel like it's always a romantic couple arguing, and while a lot of people are very close to their partners, a lot of people also need fixing in family and friendships. I would like to see that represented, like if any of you (commenters and viewers) would too. I hope you guys at the school of life see this too, have a nice day
@viviantomlinson
@viviantomlinson 6 лет назад
whenever i feel like arguing i literally just walk away or completely shut myself up bc i know it’ll always end up badly and it just makes everything frustrating
@BigTTown502
@BigTTown502 6 лет назад
veegan so you always end up resenting the person and not feeling heard and distancing yourself from the relationship...good job
@viviantomlinson
@viviantomlinson 6 лет назад
+Mr. T3 hmm a good insight but not necessarily true for me because i know that i would end up resenting the person even more if i were to argue, and then i would feel really bad for saying the things i didn’t actually mean to say (bc this usually happens when a person is angry - you can’t think rationally when you’re blinded by your own rage). most of the time i would feel rather glad actually that i managed to stop myself because i didn’t want the arguments to create more conflicts and end up deteriorating my relationship with a person. note that my use of the word “argue” is used in a negative light; because i would gladly discuss about a subject matter as long as any form of hate or generally negative vibes aren’t present :)
@Cless
@Cless 6 лет назад
veegan that mean they have emotional control over you, and it is not good
@viviantomlinson
@viviantomlinson 6 лет назад
Cless did you read my latest comment? if so, why do you still say so? i don’t see it the way you do, mind elaborating?
@Cless
@Cless 6 лет назад
veegan if you keep doing that the person can easily manipulate you so you feel bad. IT CAN idk who is your lover
@paulac.munoztorres
@paulac.munoztorres 6 лет назад
You know what? The second way of reacting sounded much stronger than the first, childish one. Remaining calm feels like a very both empathic and confident person.
@alycekatt
@alycekatt 6 лет назад
This is quite powerful. I wish people would do this more often
@Jake38nine
@Jake38nine 6 лет назад
When I first watched this video, I thought I realized where I went wrong with a friend/love interest that I lost very recently. Then I read the comments and a lot of people had similar experiences as myself. I've finally realized I've done this with my friend. I did this with my friend. I showed vulnerability. I showed hurt. I was calm. I told her I wanted to talk about it. I showed compassion for how she was feeling. I didn't attack or berate her. I told her I understood her and didn't mean any harm to her or mean anything ruthless to her. When I first told this girl I had feelings for her, she was drunk. I didn't know that. When she told me she was drunk, I said, "Oh, I should've known." And that ticked her off, but she does drink fairly often, so it was a fair statement. And to cut the story short, every time I'd try to talk about what happened that night, she'd get defensive and tell me to stop and move forward and leave it alone. That's not healthy. I was showing hurt, vulnerability, and love, but she pushed it all away and wouldn't accept it. Yes, show all those things, but it doesn't guarantee you'll be reciprocated. I wasn't reciprocated. Sometimes when I felt she was ignoring me during normal conversation my hurt would come up and I'd attack her. I'd argue with her. This continued for a month until she finally called it quits and blocked and banned me from her entire life... Even during the time I told her my feelings she said, "We all fear rejection but you just gotta keep putting yourself out there." I told her I knew my fears were correct and that she didn't share the same feelings as me. She told me not to analyze her and that what I was analyzing wasn't what she meant. She was drunk, mind you, so who knows what the Hell was going through her mind. And during the same time I'd sometimes bring up moving on and letting go. How did she react? "What the fuck?!" And then eventually she was like, "I do have feelings for you, if you're still asking." That gave me hope, but things still didn't seem right. The next morning we talked about some of it, but she wanted to avoid it entirely and even said it was a "disaster". She even blamed me for trying to have a conversation with her while she was intoxicated, when I was unaware until she told me. And if I had just assumed she was drunk, she would've gotten mad at me then too because she hates when I assume things. So either way, I would've been wrong and blamed for it. I tried talking to her calmly. I tried to have a mature conversation with her. My guard was already completely down and I was ready to just communicate. She refused. She obviously regretted what she said while drunk. Even though your true inhibitions, your true feelings, the truth comes out when you're drunk, she even denied that notion when I brought it up, but I may have brought it up in a passive aggressive way too. But seriously, I was already vulnerable and she wasn't accepting it or opening up to me, so I had a right to start getting mad. I opened up with vulnerability and showed my goddamn hurt. Because liking her actually hurt me because I was so worried I'd get rejected and I hadn't liked a girl like this for at least 2 years, so I was scared. I made myself depressed over it. I tried keeping it bottled up, but I ended up just letting it out and apparently at the most misopportune time. I let my crush on her literally crush me until I was forced to just let it out. I was most vulnerable at that point because I was already hurting from thinking about rejection. But I still went in vulnerable. And I did try to handle it the best I could by telling her I'd move on and let go. She got mad when I SAID I would move on and let go, but guess what SHE told me to do the next morning? "Move on, Jake. Let go, Jake." When I said it, she had a problem with it. When she said it, she meant it as a demand. And then when I just couldn't get any further with her with communication on the situation, I just gave up when she told me, "Regardless of what I said. Enough" I quit replying after that. I left the conversation. 10 minutes later she texts me, "Read and ignored sweet" She got mad at me for leaving the conversation where it was. She got mad at me for letting it go. She got mad that I was trying to move on. I replied back to her, "I didn't know what to say. I didn't want to bother you further." Her response, "K." I asked if she was mad at me. She yelled at me with a, "NO" response. What was i supposed to do? I've done the reasoning through my head plenty of times and what I should've done is just kept on ignoring her and not replying. Let it fester in her for a while. Let her think about it. I never gave her time to think about things like that because I always felt bad for "ignoring" her or leaving a conversation where it was, even randomly. That's just not how I am. But I realize it was her game. I was playing her game and I didn't succeed. What I should've done is walked away and not talk to her for awhile. What I did was feel guilty for leaving her unanswered, even though she told me, "Enough". And then after that little fiasco, this all happened on the day of the eclipse, so she brought up the eclipse as a change of subject. we talked about it very briefly before she just read and ignored my text mid-conversation. I left it alone, but after about 2 hours, I just went off on her and told her how I didn't appreciate how she was treating the situation and me. That's when we got into a heated argument. She even threatened that if I don't stop, then we can't be friends anymore and she even added in, "And that would make me really sad." Every other argument we'd have that day she'd bring up the notion of, "Friends or nah?" She was FORCING a choice onto me. Not to mention before the arguments she yelled at me saying, "WE ARE FRIENDS. THAT'S IT." When I was trying to communicate about the night before. She wouldn't have any of it. I wasn't trying to force a relationship. I told her many times I was in no rush to jump in a relationship. I told her many times I respected the way she felt and that if she wasn't ready, I was okay with it. I gave all the assurance in the goddamn world. And she still yelled at me for trying to communicate. She didn't want to be vulnerable with me like I was with her. She kept on forcing the notion of us being friends or not onto me when we were arguing. Do you know how hard that is? You're asking me to ignore my feelings and hurt and how you've yelled at me all day, and you're trying to force me to either be your friend or leave you. That's not freaking healthy!!!!! I finally gave in because she threatened to block me if I didn't give her a break and leave it alone. I tried being her friend, but every time we'd talk I'd want to go back to that day and try to talk about it. She wouldn't have any of it. She wanted it to be left in the "past". As if 2 days to a week ago or even a month ago can be considered "The past". The immediate past, sure, but you don't just get over something like that immediately. But that's what she expected form me. She expected me to be just her friend and forget everything that happened that night and day. It felt very manipulative and controlling. Funny/ironic thing is, I don't think she spoke to me extensively while drunk again after that. She might've had some small talk with me while drunk, but never got into anything too deep again while drunk. Never build friendships with people who will talk to you often while drunk. The first time we bonded over deep shit was when she was drunk. Yeah, never bonding with someone again while they're drunk. And if I do, It'll be left as is, a drunk memory. I'm not taking anything seriously from another bonding moment with a drunk person/friend again. I'll remember it for future reference, but as for taking it seriously and thinking it means anything serious, nah, never again. She knew her problem, but wouldn't admit to it. She quit talking to me while drunk, but she wouldn't apologize to me for it or give any kind of closure over it or any kind of communication over it. I would explain explain and explain what I was thinking and feeling to her, but she'd never do the same for me. She'd even question me at times, "I don't understand why you continue to let this eat at you." And I told her it was because I didn't understand it. Communication is all about understanding. Without communication, there is no understanding, and with no understanding makes assumptions and other ideas come up in your mind to try and justify it. And she got mad at those assumptions and ideas when i shared them with her. But she wasn't mature enough to communicate with me, so why is she blaming me when she could've communicated and helped me better understand things? She tried to make me feel guilty for my feelings. I've went over it several times in my head since she's been gone and I'm realizing more and more how manipulative and controlling she was. She didn't want me to think a certain way. She didn't want me to think of her in a negative light. She didn't want me to leave her, but she wanted me to move on and let go. When I put the idea in her that I might not want to be friends anymore, she got scared. She gave me puppy dog eyes and made me feel bad for even that. I felt guilty. She guilt tripped me. She guilt me into being her friend. She guilt tripped me in being her friend when I tried to move on and let go. She guilt tripped me when i thought about ending the friendship. She guilt tripped me for my feelings. All so she could slice my throat open herself and end it herself. She wanted the satisfaction of watching me bleed. She took advantage of my vulnerability and weakness. You open yourself up to people and you're only opening up a bigger wound for them to stab you in and make it sting a Hell of a lot more.
@Ferelmakina
@Ferelmakina 6 лет назад
Thank you for this, tsol. Everybody should watch this video
@TheTorridestCheese
@TheTorridestCheese 6 лет назад
Naturally, it goes both ways. If someone courageously admits that he/she felt hurt, then you should properly and eagerly listen to them without "hitting back".
@XNicx
@XNicx 6 лет назад
This is absolutely incredible. Thank you for this lol
@Wingedwolfstar67
@Wingedwolfstar67 6 лет назад
I wish I knew of this channel before my relationship fell apart but I'm doing what I can to apply it now and fix it.
@hrwhahaha
@hrwhahaha 6 лет назад
What if your friend, relative reply your stop being a baby when you show hurt? What if you show it too much time and nobody cares anymore? Am I make up these problems? Yes, I am, Sir!
@rrammay
@rrammay 6 лет назад
Now what I'm saying might be harmful, so I'll excuse first. Bu it's all about the way you do it and also the person you do it with. Not all people are open to hear someone's hurt, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth it. If your partner isn't open to listen to your feelings and reacts calling you out, you should probably leave. I'm sure there's someone better out there for you
@bolivar1789
@bolivar1789 6 лет назад
+hrwhahaha Hello there! Someone who treats you that way is being very cruel. If that's your partner you must seriously consider leaving. If it is about relatives, it gets more complicated, but still: avoid them wherever you can. Life is difficult enough, you don't need to be around anybody who is cruel and immature. They behave that way beause they don't have the guts to deal with their own hurts. I am sorry if this sounds too harsh or negative. But in order to be a loving, giving, caring person, you must take good care of your mental sanity first.
@SmartiBig
@SmartiBig 6 лет назад
Please do more of this kind of video :) :) touching and captivating
@yolandaw.1257
@yolandaw.1257 6 лет назад
What's crazy is how ppl wouldn't really respond that way. Most ppl would continue on the phone and say just a sec and be mad and call you needy bcuz u need that time now not to wait on then. At least that's been my experience. No matter how I ask for time, attention, and affection. I'm always told I'm selfish and immature.
@Tedieke
@Tedieke 6 лет назад
I saw the thumbnail and thought, I know that guy. And sure enough I did :D
@echogaybaldfith7466
@echogaybaldfith7466 6 лет назад
Really great video, thank you
@e_paige
@e_paige 6 лет назад
Jack! I'm super pleased to see you.
@eboysix
@eboysix 6 лет назад
These hypothetical situation videos are very effective.
@NandaBenetti
@NandaBenetti 6 лет назад
That was amazing. Thank you.
@fanaticalpotato
@fanaticalpotato 6 лет назад
I just can't get over how wonderful Jack Howard is.
@DenNationishere
@DenNationishere 6 лет назад
You've saved my relationship many times. So to suffice, many thanks :)
@angellacanfora
@angellacanfora 6 лет назад
I'd have thought it would have been better if the man let it go when she pulled out her phone, accepted that the conversation they'd been having was over and then later, at a time when his partner was in the mood to listen to him, address the issue of how it made him feel when she pulled out the phone in that moment. People don't like to be told what to do, no matter how sweet the tone, in my experience.
@DystopianOverture
@DystopianOverture 5 лет назад
And in my experience the person getting on the phone in the middle of the conversation is a rude POC that needs to be told and not coddled.
@soulpirationcopy1071
@soulpirationcopy1071 6 лет назад
The last part makes my heart feels warm :)
@SallyWozniak
@SallyWozniak 6 лет назад
MY BOI JACK! great stuff here guys, keep it up
@xzonia1
@xzonia1 6 лет назад
Jack Howard was a great choice for this video! : ) I think most people are afraid if they show vulnerability, they will be mocked or hurt further. This is a good response to those fears.
@isabellapreston5101
@isabellapreston5101 6 лет назад
It takes strength to be gentle and kind
@Corpsecreate
@Corpsecreate 6 лет назад
This is literally the WORST advice to give when your with a partner that has no heart and/or has personality disorders. This kind of vulnerability opens you up to manipulation and severe emotional trauma. I agree that showing weakness is a good thing, but be EXTREMELY careful with the type of people you open yourself up to, because they can stab you 500x harder after you open up to them.
@Corpsecreate
@Corpsecreate 6 лет назад
Yes of course, except it isn't always easy to know if a person is that way. The first stages of most abusive relationships begin with a lot of flattery and love, its just all fake.
@akhilife_t
@akhilife_t 6 лет назад
Agreed.
@vampireprincess7934
@vampireprincess7934 6 лет назад
I was thinking the same... I think this video has a good advice when you are with a person who has empathy. But not everybody has empathy and people with no empathy don't care if another person is hurt :/
@bolivar1789
@bolivar1789 6 лет назад
+Corpsecreate Hello there. I am very sorry if you have been through that. Of course I understand what you mean. But it doesn't lessen the value of the advice given in this video. You must always do the right thing, but if you see that the other person punishes you for it, you must leave. It happened to me too. Seriously, if you can't be vulnerable with someone, just leave. I wish you so well.
@aywancfc
@aywancfc 6 лет назад
Lua Veli good relationships hinge on openness. If you cannot be open with the other person then they are no better than an acquaintance or stranger, and that will never be satisfying for our frail egos that crave acceptance and belonging By the way, your comments are always so thoughtful and sensitive, i just want to add that I'm a fan :-)
@MrJRhacks
@MrJRhacks 6 лет назад
Does anybody know the name of the song?
@nateshsubhedar8162
@nateshsubhedar8162 6 лет назад
love it . love it. love it. No matter what the critics of this channel say. diluting philosophy and stuff! keep it up. love.
@3LinkTriforce
@3LinkTriforce 6 лет назад
The hard part is getting to the point of having a relationship with someone. Luckily enough, I do not have troubles showing my weaknesses and having strength in those weaknesses.
@mistahac
@mistahac 6 лет назад
Great acting / depiction of real couple arguments
@donut_face2338
@donut_face2338 6 лет назад
Imagine if the whole world thought this way, better communication and understanding with each other might lead to or at least a step toward world peace
@animalspines8898
@animalspines8898 Год назад
Love this video
@blackchang1981
@blackchang1981 6 лет назад
Love these👍
@dudanunesbleff
@dudanunesbleff 6 лет назад
With some people, showing them they've hurt you is like offering them your neck for them to attack. They will feast and revel. Know that, suffered that, got the scars to prove it.
@christianrr
@christianrr 6 лет назад
You know, I do agree with all of this. I have very often tried to be mature and nice and all. But the experience that I've made was that most people do need a little dose of conflict in their relationships for it not to get too boring. Of course, there can be a too much. Of course, there may be people who are more vulnerable and don't actually want conflict. However, most people can't stand it if their partners are too nice just like they can't stand it if there is too much conflict. There should thus be a complementary video that shows how we could be a little more grounded, balanced and a little more "aggressive" if our partners go cold on us because we are "just nice"... in other words; we do not only need a mature and calm way of expressing our anger, hate, fear; we do also need a constructive wildness. This seems to be the real difficulty. Far too often, there is this oversimplified dichotomy of nice guy vs. bad boy or conflict-avoidance vs. constant fighting. Both may be nice for some couples but an average advice for an average audience would be to show how someone can be balanced in their emotional outlets and how thus their relationship can also be balanced in their doses of wildness and calmness...
@blog-zw7jt
@blog-zw7jt 6 лет назад
Being lone is the best the way to avoid these problems.
@joshuataylor6087
@joshuataylor6087 6 лет назад
Screaming matches can become addictive, consuming, exhausting and leave you completley drained.
@donrob7779
@donrob7779 6 лет назад
My parents have at times argued like this, and if ever my dad tells my mom that she was being mean or harsh she got angry at him for daring to say that. I had an old job where my boss was a total lunatic, constantly yelling and throwing temper tantrums and throwing things around because he was upset and if we had the "audacity" as he put it to say he should practice some self control he would go right back into it, thats why i neither fight or try to explain because in most cases people already know their words will come across as hurtful and they just don't care, that or they'll have no idea why you could possibly see anything they did as wrong.
@cobbiek
@cobbiek 6 лет назад
great content!
@MaureenMurphy_
@MaureenMurphy_ 6 лет назад
Great advice! ❤️
@AnthonySherritt
@AnthonySherritt 6 лет назад
Beautifully acted. Gave me an anxiety attack.
@juliegathman2923
@juliegathman2923 6 лет назад
Crying is not just for infants. Haven't you ever experienced a scene in a movie where an adult cries? Yes, even adult men... especially men. It's very moving. Crying gets you in a different place than the part of your brain that is trying to protect YOURSELF...now you feel protective (compassionate) toward the other person. Also, some people below had questions about how to express that someone is hurting you, in a work context. Here is what I have seen, and does not make the person look weak: Say, "Ouch." That's it. Then quickly move on. There isn't time for the person you are speaking to, to mount a counter-attack; they might even be slightly confused (they didn't realize the stupidity/insensitivity of what they were saying). But later they will think back at what they said (because you said "Ouch") and they'll get it.
@nightsage217
@nightsage217 6 лет назад
what a good advice!
@thole1629
@thole1629 6 лет назад
Thank you very much
@abbykoop5363
@abbykoop5363 Год назад
Like other comments here, if have to agree that it depends on who you are opening up to. I found that in my family of you showed any vulnerability it just opened you up for attack. Or dismissal. Like when I expressed that I felt hurt that I was always consulted last when family visits were arranged. There nature of my business means that my clients pre-book their appointments with me at least 8 weeks in advance, so if I knew when the family visit was going to be with enough notice I could meet up without disrupting all my clients. I got a thoughtful look but no words. And the next family visit, everyone else had their pick of days and I was told.... We have "this" afternoon left. When I brought up our last conversation it was like I was the troublemaker. In the end I said I just couldn't make it. It's not fair to my clients who are loyal to me. That was the last I ever heard from my family. That was about 8 years ago now....
@MrLimitlessME
@MrLimitlessME 6 лет назад
Love this
@z4k4z
@z4k4z 6 лет назад
This should be taught at school as part of PHSE, before we get into meaningful relationships.
@ZombieSharky
@ZombieSharky 6 лет назад
I wish you would do a video about someone trying to break their habit of being toxically submissive.The kind of quiet self restraint that helps no one in the end.
@selkie4084
@selkie4084 6 лет назад
Irrelevant, but I think their voices are immensely lovely.
@zurichhentley9713
@zurichhentley9713 6 лет назад
Ayye it's jack!
@Stormy38044
@Stormy38044 6 лет назад
The thing is, I always approached relationships like this. Very rarely did I fall into anger. And yet the relatonships never lasted. The only ones that I know that last are ones where couples will have a scream at each other once every few months, and/or bogged down in religious piety.
@illuminus4420
@illuminus4420 6 лет назад
Awesome!!
@bamb1s0la
@bamb1s0la 6 лет назад
wow! this happened to me a couple days ago. could feel it spiraling out of control. Something just told me to pause apologize and start again, calmly.
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