Why Western Cape Independence is Foolish and Delusional… 

Ironically, one of those independence salesmen quote tweeting your video led me here and it was the best thing the fool has ever done. Excellent distillation of the issues with this pipe dream!

Politics is not for the people, it's self interest period.

Hi Sizwe , Im a prosecutor and never really had a interest in politics or political affairs , however since I found your channel Ive been hooked and learning so much , so I just wanna thank you and please keep the content flowing.. Will you do a episode titled " who do I vote for" ... God Bless Dr S

The laugh is so infectious. The subject matters is so bizarre.The implications are threatening. The performance... Spectacular!! Great episode Sizwe. Subscribed!

They want a China and Taiwan situation a Russia and Ukraine situation sponsored by you know who.

This is so hilarious😂 your opening remarks are so blunt. I am thinking about the episode where you hosted Dr Corne Moulder legitimise this thing realising this is what you thought in your mind as you were listening and nodding😭😭 respect for that composure.

The 1652 blend, sent me off. The total disrepect to the people who lost their land because of blending.🤣🤣

Thank Dr. Sizwe we love your work.

Get a load of this. One of these Cape Independence guys said after they emerge victorious from the "race war", they will build a wall around the Cape; protected by tanks & all sorts of heavy artillery & gizmos😂😂Cape independence is the refurbished AWB. New flag, new colours but with no legitimacy because their head cashew isn't even one of us; he's not South African. He's British & thought he'd come down here to put his foot down & tell us what to do like in the good old days

Thank you for this very clear explanation of why the idea of 'Cape Independence' is just stupid!

“The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.” Thomas Jefferson. Capexit, Orania etc are only a thing because of the complacency of the majority camp.

Thank you for your thoughts, Dr. Mpofu-Walsh. I absolutely loathe this idea. My concern is that laws change over time and with enough deep pockets this could potentially be a reality for future generations if this continues to find platforms to be heard and entertained.

We have seen the DA telling politicians leaders must go there because it's belong themselves so they can continue control over South Africa ❤

Wow Sizwe, what a brilliant explanation for us who aren’t scholars of political science. Thank you 🙏

People are just afraid to be clear racist and they come with different wishful ideas. If its not self determination, Jan Van Riebek blend, it becomes localization, failure of ANC government or anything that will make this idea a reality.

Have you noticed the sudden claim that vantu people aren't native? The aim of that is to delegitimize the natives of South Africa so the Europeans can take a piece of this country. The audacity to tell people who have been here for thousands of years that they don't belong her life astounding.

The Cape Independence Party was formed before the EFF and the DA. In 2024, they failed to get enough signatures to register to be on the ballot. MK was formed not so long ago, and they managed to get the needed signatures to be on the ballot. They even tried to recruit Gayton Mckhenzi in 2023. The only thing they have is a lot of money. We don't want to be fighting wars with the Western Backed Cape a few years from now, hence we don't vote for it and we even refused to give them our signatures.

if you are familiar with the movie "Elysium", that's exactly what they're trying to achieve

Great one Sizwe. These informative shares go a very long way in educating SA at citizens. We appreciate it. We sure DO NOT want to experience the 🍉 situation brewing in SA.

"So the whole constitutional argument is based on dot dot dot"🤣🤣🤣

Thank you Dr Sizwe for giving us more clarity on this matter. I have one question. Is it possible to revoke citizenship of that Phil Craig guy?

its certainly bizarre and laughable...but nonetheless history has taught us to not completely write these movements of; and instead take them seriously enough to squash them from the outset so they dont have enough time to germinate and take root - at least by exposing them for the danger they really are. The Boers also started off as separatists and left the Cape in the 1800's and 100 years later had spread their extremist ideas so much as to assume power and begin the official legislation of apartheid

You really had fun with this one, and I loved it! Looking forward to more of these fun "blended" episodes lol!

Baphambene , mababuyele e England, Europe to self determine!!!!

Believe me you went hard on this one, i have been waiting for this other side of you like you are saying we are having fun. Lets have more fun going forward, i always thought you have this other side and boom made me proud. This was a brilliant coverage loved it👊 Ayeye. #Spread the fire

I fully agree with your position on this issue. What really should have happened is that all white people who refuses to live in Africa, should have been offered the option to be repatriated to their countries of origin, even if this was 300 years ago. Those who opted to stay, would have had to make peace that they had to become "Africanized" and had to assimilate fully into Africa... That means "mixing" where they live, love, be entertained, shop and relax.... In my opinion, we can still do this. The EU need to take in people who has their origin in Europe and refuses to assimilate in Africa.

Excellent example of how a good education does not always lead to wisdom. Enjoyed listening to you though. Thank you. 😎

I enjoyed this episode so much and I loved this side of you Dr Mphofu-Walsh 😂❤,this one definitely makes my top 10❤

Hey Sizwe Great video, as always. Just wanted to know if you could add the excerpts you read-out visually.

Hi Muzi, agree separatism is dead in its crib. Not something I would entertain. However less centralization and more localization is needed in order to serve the communities we live in. Water, railways, roads, infrastructure etc.

Dr. Sizwe, thank you for the information shared. I have learned a lot from you.

Dr Mpofu- Walsh great review, you are making sense to me. Thank you 🎉😮

😂😂The Blend. You couldn't hold yourself Dr.

Great analysis doc! easy to follow

You’re very blessed on what what you’re doing Keep do it and give Thanks 🙏🏾

With respect Sizwe, I think you miss the point. Western Cape independence would never have raised its head if the Government over the past 30 years had stuck to the goals of the ANC of 1994. Only one thing has been delivered on in 30 years............. freedom (and that was delivered by the masses not the ANC Government!). But what is freedom if you don't have a job and are starving? The best way to make sure that Western Cape independence doesn't happen is for the Government to deliver what all South Africans need, and now!!!

If it was legally permissible trust me Helen and the DA would have jumped on that ship already

Agreed with everything mentioned, these people are way too fond of gated estates

A thoroughly enjoyable and informative episode. Sizwe, I am indebted to you for filling the gaps I have in my history and understanding of social political events. Salute. Being something of a gentleman I see you refused to directly call out the DA romancing this issue as at the very least entertaining racist ideas.

Great video Dr, hope the reality sinks in and they focus on more productive issues.

Thank you for making this video. Because they’ve been floating around this cessation idea as a way to psychologically accustom us to its possibility as a means to foreground its implementation - and no one was publicly and rigorously enough (except ActionSA) telling them that they’re smoking crack. We need to tell them every chance we get.

I'm glad you didn't stop doing your podcast once you were accepted on mainstream tv.

The blend joke is this cape Independence brought by foreigners

1652 blend for Dr 😂😂😂you were rocking on this analysis I loved it so much ❤❤❤❤❤keep it up my brother, you are our only episos that we trust in everything ❤❤❤#100k subscribers before 29 may 2024❤❤❤

Is it a stupid idea? Yes. Should we underestimate it? No.

I like this Sizwe more, this Cape independence things has to be called out for its stupidity.

As a Cape Coloured I don't agree with the idea of independence but hello we live in a democracy and people can propagate ideas that we don't agree with. That is democracy. If the majority of the people support the idea, why not?😮

Thank you for unpacking the SCI-FI NOVEL. So entertaining 😅

You're shining Sizwe. Thanks for your wisdom 🙏🏾

Sizwe, you and I are on opposite sides of the political spectrum on a lot of issues, but here I agree with you 100%! Thanx for your show. x

I still remember when Helen Zille said in 2012/13 that people from the Eastern Cape must leave the Western Cape. She showed so much animosity towards people from the Eastern Cape coming to the Western Cape, you could have sworn they legit needed passports to cross the provincial border. I think this may have given birth to this ridiculous idea, or perhaps that's why the DA might seemingly be getting roped into this idea🤷

😂I believe you were about to retort "you can't write this stuff" and realised mid sentence these buggers actually wrote it!!😂

I’m happy I subscribed to this channel

The arrogance of these aliens is so amazing.

We appreciate your insights Dr.

If western cape wants to brake away from South Africa, for seperatisim within the confines of its borders,that means all mines,stores farming land and resources owned by these minority groups of privileged ,must be let go to the hands of South Aricans,and let them build their wealth from within the boarders of Western. Cape.

According to Dr Corne Mulder who was on you channel 2 weeks ago. 70% of the people in support of the Cape independence are DA voters. That is why the have "Cape Exit" in their campaign. their strategy is to get that vote. I agree the DA might loose Cape and Cape independence is an absurd concept.

LOL.... the intro is too perfect!!

opposed to this silly movement. however, curious to hear your thoughts on more governmental power given to local & provincial governments? The history of centralisation of power in South Africa (to Pretoria) goes back to Jan Smuts who didn't trust local governments to manage themselves & this is a legacy that the ANC has perpetuated, which to me is very neo-colonial + elitest. Shouldn't grass roots communities - through direct democracy - have a bigger say over their own safety, education, healthcare, housing etc. ?

I thought we were "Stronger Together" what's happening now ?

Thanks for the elightenment ❤

Haai Sizwe 😂🤣😂 "the blend". I love the way you say "blend". I'm crying 🤣😂🤣😂. I enjoy the podcast and really enjoy the humour you put into your episodes from time to time 😂🤣😂🤣

If the people of the Cape want independence give them independence.

Is Oranja within this right? Is that an example?

LoL 🤣🤣🤣 hey Sizwe,are you going to unseat Trevor Noah 🤣 I thought you're a serious gay, but today you give me a good laugh, ps. I really appreciate you, a great podcast,host by a great Guy 👍

it just pure comedy.

My future president I really hope I will see the day you become the president of this country. You are incredible and so wonderful to have been witness to your journey.

This is great stuff. I was doing my best to ignore those people but you know Twitter people. The "Blend" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

😂😂😂😂 Spicy!🌶️🌶️🌶️🔥🔥 lol I loved and had a good laugh at this analysis Abuti. But I’m judging you for not telling Dr Leo Mulder the same thing 😅😅 Please get Darren Campher as a guest once in a while to share these kind of entertaining yet thought-out analysis

Umhlaba ka XHOSA uqala eBizana uyoma nge Kapa

most foolish idea ever

Thanks

There are 2 independent bantu stands states within SA borders, Swaziland and Lesotho which no one has a problem with, what is so different with Cape independence, why does everyone seems to have issue with it. Independence is written within our SA constitution, where does all this hate of Cape independence surface. Is it only okay for blacks to claim self determination

I'm not sure if there is an analysis on the channel about Orania. If there isn't can we please have an episode

Afrikaner's always said they were forced to speak English and under false presence till saying not racist

You do realise the whole point of a referendum is to understand the wishes of the entire electorate. If the majority do not want independence, then the vote will show that. Why does it have to be so difficult to allow people to vote on this proposal of independence.

Thank you Sizwe👍🏿

They don't like sharing the roads with minibus taxis too...

Dr Sizwe I responded to that video as well and fought my urguement in that video since when Jan Van Rebiek was a black ⚫️ man

I am living in the Eastern Cape, I fail to understand the allegation of Independence being foolish and delusional. I quote; "Greytown - The Abantu Batho Congress, let by the mayor of the Umvoti local municipality, Philandi P G Mavundla, is advocating the establishment of a sovereign Zulu state in KZN and a self-governing Basotho state in the Free State. It says this vision will progressively extent to the creation of an autonomous Xhosa state in the Eastern Cape." Why not address this together with the RP? Maybe it is time to get away from cadres.

as stupid as th idea is... if enough ppl believe & support this separatism... it could happen!

Sizee you've fully Ethered those Capexit fools, you really went hard on this one. Ayeye

Thanks u brother....I'm happy sir

Evil with no soul. Western Cape is part of South Africa. When we fought for the evil oppressors during apartheid, we were fighting for the liberation of our country, South Africa, Western Cape included. We cannot make that mistake. let them dream since they're entitled to it. we spread da faya ayeye.

Haha, "the blend" lol - my quesrion is, can they be arrested for something along the lines of treason, or similar?

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN

Thanks!

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Hi Muzi, how does The Ingonyama Trust work in context of countries laws? Also the Orania situation. It seems they didn't get the memo? Also would like to here your thoughts on Federalism?

The way you laughed at "The blend" 😂😂😂😂

This video gives me vibes of an unhinged attack to such movements which gain rightfully momentum, without actually arguing and talking about there intentions. If SA keeps the trajectory it is right now, sooner or later the Cape Independence will happen. Edit: Looked at the pooling and the absolute majority of the population of the Cape want the referendum. They see the writing on the wall and want to take the parachute before south africa crash by becoming the next Zimbabwe. 😎

The Startling Truth... *Catching Pigs* This is NOT a joke. Just something to think about. You will appreciate the final statement. There was a professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab, The professor noticed one young man who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting Communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist regime. In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. "Do you know how to catch wild pigs Professor?" The Professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said that it was no joke. "You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free food.When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the single fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that also and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs are now so used to the free corn, they find the gate, enter to get more free corn. You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence making a commotion realising they are trapped but its too late. They are caught. After a while they settle and eat the corn again and lose the ability and the need to to forage in the woods for themselves. So they accept their captivity and when their offspring are born in captivity they know no better, are raised in captivity and survive off the free corn" The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in South Africa and other places in the world. Governments keep pushing us toward Communism/ Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare entitlements, medicine, drugs, etc., While we continually lose our freedoms, Just a little at a time. One should always remember two truths: There is no such thing as a free lunch AND and you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself. If you understand the students story, you should definitely recognise that all of this wonderful government "help" is simply a ploy to crush global democracy and the human right to freedom. It is NOT governments trying to assist and uplift its citizens. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably not share this and continue to live in a beholden, dependent and trapped life. BUT, God help us all when the gate slams shut! Quote for today: "The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living." A thought to remember, Marx said, "Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed." In the USA, South Africa, Australia and NZ the fences are in place and the solitary gate has already been installed waiting to be shut. It's Time to Wake Up or pretend its not happening.....

Sizwe, it was hilarious to watch you laugh 😂 . Ayeye!

Accidentally played whilst working and "The Blend" part me pay more attention🤣🤣

10:36 😂 Ja, nee... hy't nogals baie hieso laat "blend"

What about South Africans who have properties and businesses in WC and rest of SA, will they need passports to go to their home, will Xhosa people living in WC be removed and settled elsewhere, will flights to WC only come from other countries??? Total madness

Cape Town is the Mother City, we fought and now we r 🇿🇦South Africa 30yrs democracy free from Apartheid. No separation from South Aftica🇿🇦, that's Apartheid, Zionist TALK, we say NO NO, we will not be divided. Stand strong and don't vote 4 Apartheid. 😭

I don't support Cape Independence

They also laughed at Orania , these boers are really doing fantastic.Most people are jealous of them.They are independent and everyone works. They pay tax to the ANC government

I'm not from the Cape. But I'm sure that Ad Hominem is not a good argument against Democracy and applies irrespective of geography and/or our presuppositions.