When I was trying to decide between the second generation Colorado and Canyon, the deciding factor was dealership customer service. Close to where I live there is a Chev and GMC dealership, 2 blocks apart. My preference was for the Chevy Colorado, but I had a bad experience at the Chev dealership, and so I picked the Canyon. The GMC dealership was easier to deal with, friendly, and I didn't dread going there. Knowing that I couldn't avoid the dealership, I decided that good customer service was more important than anything else.
they all suck at some point , I despise the one next to my house. Its the service departments that really gets under Your skin. There really offensive with there prices sometimes you want to beat the shit out of the guy and run his head thru the nearest wall . I had a tranny fluid change with tranny lines changed quoted at 1800 at the dealer and so I went to a mechanic down the road for the same job I paid $475 total job, and I watched him do it with all deco parts , the dealer won't do a job unless there totally ripping you off and its just not right because sometimes I want to go to the dealer, I avoid like the plague .
I have a 2016 Colorado diesel that I bought new - only time I ever went to the dealership was for the two free oil changes they offered and once for a DEF pump that was covered under the emission warranty. So yeah, you can avoid them. I do all my own work on it. Easiest to work on vehicle I’ve ever owned.
@Encourageable My gauge cluster stopped working on my 2002 Sonoma, and I tried guessing how fast I was going by "seat of the pants" feel. I took it to my mechanic, but it required special equipment to diagnose it. Then, at the dealership, I was told it would cost $600, and they would have to send it out for a week to be reconditioned. I called the salvage yard, and they had one, so I got a replacement for $90.
I know how you feel,,it’s so dreadful,,,you should take your GMC to Chevy dealer and show it to the person or persons and kindly tell them exactly why you made that decision!
The one nice thing about the plastic steering wheel is that it wears well. I have the rental car spec steering wheel in my 13 4Runner, and at first I was upset until I saw people with much newer 4runners complaining about wear on the fake leather wrapped wheel.
Halogen, HID, or LED is not the defining factor for how good a headlight is. It's whether it's a projector or reflector style. If everyone were required to have reflector headlights I'd be all for it. But as it is, every Toyota, Subaru, and Audi on the road blinds everyone else, so I want projectors too.
Respect to you Andre for admitting you prefer the canyon front end more. Most people are so insecure they could never admit that about their own purchase.
Both trucks look great, but I prefer the more sculpted body and headlights on the Colorado. GM skimped too much on Trail Boss, tho. LED lights and cruise control should be standard!
Trailboss: $43K+, no seat warmers, no LED lights, no fog lights, no steering wheel warmer. Definitely not a great vehicle for those of us in winter climates and/or in the mountains. As for the lack of LEDs, it's been a very very long time since I had a vehicle with Halogen lights, which is what my 2022 Nissan Frontier SV has now,. This truck completely sucks to drive at night in the mountains where I live. The visibility in front of me is the worst I have seen (well I can't see much) in the 20+ years of vehicles I have been leasing. 3 months left on this lease, and counting down.
@@colten53 a few of my previous vehicles had projector lamp style lights that worked great in the mountains at night. The standard reflector style halogens in my 2022 Nissan Frontier are the worst headlights I had since the late 90s. You don't see deer on the edge of the roads until you're very close with the halogens. In previous vehicles, their eyes would reflect back the light from a distance, so I could easily know where they were.
I'm kinda curious how easy it will be to swap out or what the aftermarket support will be. Or I could just get the AT4 and not deal with it. After modding my WRX, I kinda want to just have a turn-key complete car for once.
The price jump on the Canyon removed it right off my shopping list. I had a 2019 GMC Canyon V6 4x4 in an Extended Cab with the convenience and tow packages, as well as the spray-in bedliner. The sticker was $34,500. The 2023s are now starting at about $43K and you only get a 5' bed and no option for an extended cab. The reliability of my 2019 was a nightmare. The AC had to be replaced three times in less than three years, and the transmission and transfer case also needed warranty repairs are well in that time. GM was a nightmare to deal with, in summer 2019, the truck was 3 months old and the AC failed the first time. It then took GM 53 days to replace the AC, and only after my state's AG got involved. GM Corporate representative was unapologetic and was actually downright rude about the whole situation. At the prices GM wants these days for these trucks, it is a hard pass.
What's sad is that my 2007 Canyon with 118k miles has been less problematic since new. Never had a mechanical problem yet. Just stupid little things have gone wrong.
@@palebeachbum It killed me to lease return the GMC Canyon. The buyout was $21K, but replacing the AC annually would have been expensive, plus it had a history of transmission/transfer case issues. It was dog ship simple of a truck, and in theory, that truck should have gone 200K+ without issues, but sadly, mine must've been a Friday afternoon built lemon.
What engine? I have a 19 crew cab that I bought out at the end of my lease... Only have had two repairs that needed to be addressed at scheduled service. First was an issue the dealer caused but conveniently refused to acknowledge. The second was the water pump developing a nasty noise, but it was covered under powertrain warranty. My last service for oil, trans and 4x4 has brought it right back to driving like a brand new truck.
It's personal taste but I think the Colorado wins easily. The grill seems like a wash to me as they both have attractive looks. The Colorado has a better hood, tail gate, and tail lamps imo.
I agree... last two trucks have been GMC. I'd likely go Colorado like yours....except with cruise control! Really dislike not having it. Rented cars without and its just annoying. In todays age with tech and "drive by wire" with the controls easier it should just be standard.
I'd choose the Colorado as well, as the extra 18K could be better used elsewhere. I'd choose a different color (probably black) and would opt for the cruise control and a rear window defroster. Everything else is "good to go"!
If you really think about it and get the 4x4 elevation Canyon, you're looking at the same cost with the same ride height and width, but you get more features and a nicer looking truck.
But, you are spending more than what the last generation trucks cost... I've played with the online configurator, and you very quickly eclipse the MSRP of the outgoing models with similar options.
I live near the road you are on near Asheville and have driven that stretch a million times. In the late 80’s, there was the absolute craziest thing ever that happened on that exact stretch of road.
The Canyon front end just looks better in every way. Regardless of trim level. Wouldn't bother with the Denali but the AT4 checks all the boxes and is better equipped than the Z71.
I really like both of these trucks, and I would choose them over the Tacoma. However the more I think about it, my two big disappointments are the leaf springs and steel bed. Coils and a composite bed would be a good advancement.
@@ABC-nv8ly All subjective of course but I totally disagree. They went too overboard on the new Tacoma's. They look like transformers and not in a good way.
Depends on the companies profit margins. If they are going on a 30% profit per truck, then Msrp x .70 = actual cost 100k truck on a 30% profit margin, costs 70k to build. Highly unlikely so I’m guessing they have a higher profit margin per truck.
@@MonsterTruckingCo. Yeah, margins aren't consistent across all trims and models. The higher the trim level, the significantly higher the margin. A $70k-$80k "luxury" truck literally has over 50%-60% margins. Every truck is using many of the same components, OEMs have just convinced people to pay an extra $20k for leather seats, shiny/painted trim, and some tech gimmicks. Even base 2wd work trucks now bring in minimum 20%. To put dollars on it, GM is averaging something like $25k on every truck they sell.
I would still pick the Canyon over the Colorado just because I like the wide body look. I like the high output engine but if the Colorado had all that with the wide body. It might be a hard decision.
Ahhh, they're the same truck just slightly different styling and a nicer interior and higher price tag for the GMC. The ZR2 has the same "wide body" for less money. You can get the same HO engine in the Chevy.
I really enjoyed my 2018 ZR2 and might have kept it if I was willing to deal with the potential diesel repairs. Just wish it had come with more features for the $45k+ MSRP.
I really wanted the DuraMax in my 2020 ZR2 but, started to get turned off by all the DEF system issues they were having with them....Actually with the price of diesel and DEF fluid there really isnt much advantage to specifying a diesel over a gas powered truck these days. Happy I bought my 2020 Xtra Cab ZR2 when you could still find a 2 door truck....I don't want a long wheelbase "Station Wagon" when I hit the dirt. No real complaints with my ZR2....Mileage really sucks @ 19-18MPG but, besides that....love it!
I like the GMC much better... Especially, if it has cruise control.😎 As for the Denali, I'd go for any color other than black 'cause I live in the south, and I'm not moving to the north for less than 3times my current salary and 95% of the Denali edition of anything GMC makes is freaking black. If you get a black, you'll see yourself everywhere.
Y’all should definitely do a mega mashup like the old days with the PRO-4X, TRD PRO, AT4X, ZR2/ZR2 Bison, Ranger Raptor, maybe Ridgeline HPD. I would love to see one big video or even a series
All modern mid-size and even full-size trucks are becoming SOOOOOO GOOOD at being trucks (i.e. hauling, towing and overlanding) that the ONLY FACTORS as to which one you choose to buy or lease should be Dealer Experience (i.e. good customer service) and a COMBINED low-monthly truck financing payment AND comprehensive vehicle insurance plan playment! Those are now the ONLY factors that should come into play! On a realistic basis brand loyalty is NO LONGER A FACTOR and should be discarded in favour of getting the lowest monthly playment for a truck that lets you tow the most, haul the most and/or give you the best interior comfort and technology for your personal tastes! Go for the dealer and truck that BEST WORKS for your monthly wallet outlay and best customer service (i.e. are they prompt in fixing things!) If your local Chevy, Nissan, GMC, Ford, Toyota, RAM or Jeep dealer can give you a COMBINED set of low payments and good customer service, then GO BUY OR LEASE YOUR TRUCK AT THAT DEALER! V
You can just press the start button and immediately release it (no need to keep it pushed in while the ignition turns on and the engine cranks). Pro tip to save some time 😊
Great compare Andre. Agree with all your points, especially at what is missing on a Canyon that costs that much. I feel like the AT4 (non X) is right level on the Canyon side before the price gets too crazy. In our area the discounts are bigger on the Canyon. Had to laugh I have that same Tyger brand tonneau cover on my old F-150 for years and it works great and has held up well. Debating if I can live with a size down truck, just wish there was a bigger bed option like Toyota.
My thought is for the price Andre paid for his Colorado, cruise control, led lights, and leather wrapped steering wheel should have been included. There’s no reason why those things aren’t standard equipment. For the price of his Colorado I think he could have bought a used low mileage truck with those features. There really isn’t a justifiable reason for the prices of todays new trucks. It’s sad
Love ya Andre but I can't keep quiet any longer! The base Colorado only has 237hp, you've stated it has around 260hp for a while now and I just can't take it, j/k. This is a significant difference from the other power levels of the 2.7. and 260hp ;) Otherwise you're always spot on!
So specd out as similarly as i can make them, of course many options not available on the Colorado, $41,385 for the Trail Boss and $50,290 for the Canyon AT4. For the extra $9000 on the Canyon you get the LED headlights, nicer interior materials, engine tuned for max output, hud that looks cool i guess, better sound system, more external cameras. I'll pay more and get the AT4, but if Chevy had put the led headlights, cruise control and color matched front grill inserts standard on the Trail Boss I'd have been all in. Time to order my AT4 and start the waiting game I guess.
@@johnlassiterjr.3431 $45K when you actually select the trim in the build and price. I came out with $52K when all was done....hard pass vs. $42K for a Trail Boss with the options Andre missed (sliding rear window comes in the cruise control pkg...sorry Andre)....plus added spray in bedliner and skid plates. Had to go with cloth interior due to the pkg restrictions.
Are they the most popular among their lines or... are they the most sold since the dealers are ordering them in those specs to improve profit margins? Not may people want to wait for an ordered lower trim, nor are they interested in waiting for a dealer trade (if possible).
I just read an article yesterday about how car dealers are getting upset that manufacturers are sending them all the high end models, which they're having a hard time selling in some places.
That’s not necessarily true a lot of people don’t do truck things every single day and prefer the styling and utility of a truck in a small form factor plus you have to take into account that new midsize trucks are roughly the Same size as early 2000s and 90s half tons
People have been shitting on the new Ranger and joking it will be unreliable. Maybe that's true but where I work we use the now last gen Colorado (2019/2020) and they are trash. The 20 is nicer than 19 but both years are very unreliable. We're always bringing them in to the dealer for various issues and the transmissions do not want to shift normally at lower speeds. I would absolutely NOT recommend. Mind you most of these are 50-80k miles.
This is apple to oranges kind of comparison, you should compare the Denali to the Z71 and the Trail boss with the AT4, and of course later on the AT4X with the ZR2
I’m sure it has already been said already, but no cruise control standard across the board on any trim is ridiculous for any automobile. Sure, you might get away with no A/C, but cruise should be standard across all trim levels.
I would love to drive a new elevation or "mid spec" canyon and compare it with my 19 canyon... I am seeing a lot of cost saving measures that I think would rather annoy me.
This is a good refresh. For whatever reason.... The last gen GM Canyon/Colorado and the last gen Ford Ranger all looked a generation behind compared to the rest of their line ups when they came out.
That's not a good business model for them. Great for the consumer though. They do give you an option... it's zr2, or the canyon route. What gmc/ Chevy did was give everyone an option. People expect things for free. Wish that was the case.
@@elche1976 Exactly correct. I said the same thing, they want all the features and amenities of the Canyon AT4 for the starting price of the Chevy Colorado and that’s why they’re complaining about the price although nobody in the industry is offering anywhere near that type of value, for some reason they expect that from *gm.* 😂
I'm still trying to figure out which trim I want. I have the money for a ZR2, but do I need all the offroad tech? I mean I won't be rock crawling out in the Mojave like I did in the military. At most, I'll be at my grandfather's old farm crossing the creek and going out into the woods. The Trail Boss looks great visually, but the interior is lacking compared to its siblings. Still, I think the aftermarket will have fun with this platform and swapping out trim isn't that hard. One trip to the junkyard can kinda fix all my complaints so I don't know. I could just buy the AT4 and call it a day.
Close but not really. I priced both with what I wanted. Got just under 41k for TB and got 44.5k with the Elevation. And then you get the forced Onstar subscription with canyon. Gift that keeps on giving.
I thought that too until I built an Elevation. The elevation only comes with a single speed transfer case, it does not have four low. If you have any aspirations or thoughts that you may take it off road, that's pretty much a deal breaker. I imagine that would hurt resale value a pretty good amount as well.
Im 5'8 with a 08 silverado, love that truck with my life, but my dad keeps telling me to save up for a new canyon or colorado. I truly cant shake over my first love that I grew up in as a kid 🥲
Trucks are soooooo expensive now. I was looking at the Colorado, really liked the canyon AT4 @ around $45k, but that's getting close to some full size trucks and really wanted to keep the price within my budget. So.... What did I do??? Bought a 2023 Nissan frontier of course. Lol pro 4x in Boulder gray pearl. It's a nice looking truck. And got a nice discount, and didn't have to wait for it, was on the lot. $39k before TTL. That's over $6k less than the canyon AT4, maybe close to 8k with destination.
Specs online say that “manual-folding second row 60/40 split bench seats” are standard on Trail Boss and up. Is this inaccurate? Do the seat backs really not fold down? Thanks
I think they should have done an LT trail boss like the big one, I think they should have given someone the option, for the miniscule amount of leather they use, that in the LT instead of plastic seats. It looks much much nicer than the previous generation but still we can nit pick at the cheapness all day long that ALL manufacturers use but it's still nice. And I'm surprised that someone twisted GMs arm so much that they actually used an engine that is in a full sized truck with at least an option to have the same power instead of during it down like the first Gen v8
Amazing how the Colorado/Canyon went from irrelevant for me in 2022 to benchmark relevant in 2023. Impressive. My biggest concern is whether these trucks will be reliable. I am not buying until the end of 2024. Personally, I would shop for the Colorado Trail Boss or Canyon Elevation 4WD or possibly the Canyon AT4. No interested in the WT, ZR2, Denali, or AT4X. Probably not interested in the LT or Z71.
You didn't show us the back seat area of the Canyon. I am looking for a truck that has enough space in the back seat area for a cooler. No way want my cooler in triple digits tempts. here in Texas sitting in bed of truck, must be in cab area. Maybe this is why F150 is # 1 seller. Want a mid-sized truck, but will most likely go for the F150 based on inside Cab space.
Affordable truck, funny. Headlamp bulbs, it costs ZERO, to put LED's vs. Halogen. Z-E-R-O. Manufacturer's cheap out and charge more. Welcome to our new world. Great job André. I hope you can get cruise control on your 40k truck!
I have a problem with both of these trucks. 1: Why in the world does a Denali not have a power sliding back window. Way to much money for me to be reaching in the back to open the window. 2: Why is cruise control an option. Something that simple should be standard.
You think they would make these affordable. Top trim you should be able to walk out od dealership for 38k at the most for top trim plus a warranty from bumper to bumper as quality just isn't there in so many companies.
Big turn off for gmc is their logo on the front and back. I wanted the most off road worthy truck so I was between the zr2 and at4x. I spec each one out with the same options: Zr2- 52k non desert boss At4x- 59k non edition 1 I get it the gmc looks nicer on interior but that price difference is something to consider. I like the gmc headlights but again, I feel like the front end and logos on front and back on gmc are too in your face. Major turn off. Oh I went with and ordered a zr2 lol.
You’re not a GMC owner. That’s for sure. Based off your comment complaining about the logos, sounds like you’d be new to the brand and that’s a WIN for GMC. They must be doing something right! Lol.
I know It’s a vehicle review and I’m not necessarily right, but sometimes when it’s all spelled out like this I pity all the tech measuring from one vehicle to the next. It feels like a status thing. My expectation is capability, reliability and a good ride. (Okay maybe looks matter too)
The Denali should have fully adjustable, electronic, suspension, electronic retractable steps, and everything powered, including AC ventilated seats upfront like a Denali
I believe if you’re going for anything other than the top trim, go Canyon or you’re penny pinching go Colorado of course if it’s pure money. Or whatever looks you like. If your willing to spend 3k ish more I’d go GMC, more standard features, stance and motor tune. However, ZR2 VS AT4x I think is where the Colorado wins. It’s about 6-8k USD less for essentially the same thing. Plus the AT4x white and red tacky interior. Hard pass.
@@ethenjordan2010 it wasn’t an argument or rebuttal, you’re the one trying to convince the masses there’s no difference between a AT4X and a Colorado ZR2 yet somehow both seem to sell well which means there are many folks who already know better and disagree with you as well. No need in creating a convincing argument when it’s the reality. Haters will pretend there’s no difference until money isn’t a factor and then suddenly everyone prefers the Canyon.
At least none of you south of the border have prices as bad as they are here in Canada. The Canyon and Colorado can both cost $65,000-$68,000 with all of the goodies, and higher trimmed full sized trucks are $100K+ on a normal day. I recently did a build and price of a Colorado LT and Z71, and there would be no savings with the LT when you add a couple of option groups. The Z71 Colorado and the AT4 Canyon are the price of a LTZ Silverado or Sierra Denali (well, from 5 years ago). Thats a big ask, when you can find a nicely equipped Durango RT for the same money (yes, I know they are a full sized SUV, but they have the V8, selectable AWD, and a loaded interior for the same kind of money). I am with others, I will wait to see how the Canyon and Colorado have been around for a year or two and see how well they hold their value. I also want to see what they change or update in them too. Things such as no physical headlight switch, no physical cruise buttons, a prop rod for the hood (seriously, on a $50K+ vehicle!?), halogen headlights and tail lights on any trim above WT (C'mon...if Toyota can put LED projector headlights on almost every Corolla, you have no excuse GM). I would also be curious to see if they make any street truck/RST versions of them down the road too (not everyone does Overlanding with their truck). I think if they did that, offer a street spec version in addition to tasteful evolutions of the off-road variants, they will have trucks for everyones tastes and interests.
