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Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho discuss Kansas City Chiefs' QB Patrick Mahomes clapping back at Tom Brady on Twitter. Hear why Acho loves Mahomes giving the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' QB a run for his money.
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@SpeakOnFS1
@SpeakOnFS1 3 года назад
What are your thoughts on Patrick Mahomes clapping back at Tom Brady?
@adimihir
@adimihir 3 года назад
mahomes can't pass Brady if he never beat him when he was in his 40s.
@ahmedibrahim5800
@ahmedibrahim5800 3 года назад
Mahomes ain’t beat Brady in the playoffs. No chance he can ever pass Tom Brady
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 3 года назад
good fun to me
@FireballStylist
@FireballStylist 3 года назад
If anyone can do it, Mahomes can!!!! 20 years baby!!!😜 Brady be old and wrinkled up in a rocking chair!!!!🤣😉
@robvz5229
@robvz5229 3 года назад
Tom Brady is the GOAT. There is no catching up.
@edgarmellancamp6818
@edgarmellancamp6818 3 года назад
Imagine if Tom took this personally and decided to play till he’s 63
@thomashutchinson4564
@thomashutchinson4564 3 года назад
I laughed out loud, that would be AWESOME!!! Grey hair and all
@MrDanielWP
@MrDanielWP 3 года назад
In 2050, the Brady documentary comes out. "... and I took that personally."
@soccerkills
@soccerkills 3 года назад
Im good if he plays till 50 he would get first and only player to get 100000 yards
@PaolaHuezo
@PaolaHuezo 3 года назад
I’m a Chiefs fan but this had me LOL 🤣
@miamivlad
@miamivlad 3 года назад
Tom’s playing till the retirement age of 66, that’s a given.
@deejay3j
@deejay3j 3 года назад
I've grown to appreciate this show. These guys are good. Facts mixed with fun and banter.
@Skeletonbody
@Skeletonbody 3 года назад
Better than SA's first take and shannon sharpe and skip bayless Undisputed. Marcellus makes this show though.
@slickchick5811
@slickchick5811 3 года назад
lousy argument, you just don't line up and win superbowls.
@nevinviner6506
@nevinviner6506 3 года назад
3 years as a starter and Mahomes has watched Tom Brady win twice as many super bowls as him
@sharafmzaman7412
@sharafmzaman7412 3 года назад
lmao and they really think mahomes gonna surpass brady
@renardelliott4835
@renardelliott4835 3 года назад
Facts..im not a brady fan at all buy the chiefs...man the best of all time...i mean he JUST beat pat and the chiefs....easily
@iJeffChiefsKing
@iJeffChiefsKing 3 года назад
@@renardelliott4835 the Bucs beat the chiefs , brady doesn’t play defense
@Tmack82596
@Tmack82596 3 года назад
@@iJeffChiefsKing no but brady leads the offense which scored at least 30 points in every playoff game including the superbowl lol
@iJeffChiefsKing
@iJeffChiefsKing 3 года назад
@@Tmack82596 the defense that made turnovers , the defense that locked down the chiefs offense
@omyongsuwankul4410
@omyongsuwankul4410 3 года назад
When it’s done. People are gonna say u lost to Tom when he was 43
@eile4219
@eile4219 3 года назад
patrick mahomes play until 45, that 20 years. Brady, is going to be 63.
@carbon.the.christ5626
@carbon.the.christ5626 3 года назад
He beat him without his o-line. Next season Tom and the Bucs will be exposed as the frauds they are. Asterisk all over that ring.
@j-money1354
@j-money1354 3 года назад
@@carbon.the.christ5626 He already lost 2x in the playoffs. At home as well and in the SB. He's already way behind now.
@prolol415
@prolol415 3 года назад
@@carbon.the.christ5626 the asterisk is a 2...they will win again
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 3 года назад
he lost to Tampa's defense. The Bucs could have won the SB if Trubisky was QB.
@iomis2001
@iomis2001 3 года назад
I'd take the Super Bowls over the MVPs any day of the week.
@criswilliams3504
@criswilliams3504 3 года назад
Context....you would be a fool to do so if you werent one of the main pieces why you won. If youre a role player with 4 rings, history says unless you are Joe Montana or Tom brady or jerry rice, Emitt Smith, Troy Aikman, your rings mean nothing when you're old and need funds. Some dont even get to get old, cuz their rings get them nothing except a few dozen or hundred thousand dollars.
@criswilliams3504
@criswilliams3504 3 года назад
Further context...Patric Mahomes can retire at the end of his contract and never have to work again. Quality of life is better with MVPs, unless youre apeaking that individual town/city. They will treat the super bowl champ better.
@jamiealexander7665
@jamiealexander7665 3 года назад
MVPs make way more money, anyone can get lucky and win the Super Bowl.
@jamiealexander7665
@jamiealexander7665 3 года назад
@Kevin Le you just proved my point, it takes a lot of luck to win it all. Immense talent is not enough.
@teddyp3723
@teddyp3723 3 года назад
@Kevin Le By mentioning Dan Marino you are kind of proving his point you know.
@jacobuiso989
@jacobuiso989 3 года назад
Superman doesn't talk trash to kryptonite😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@iJeffChiefsKing
@iJeffChiefsKing 3 года назад
So what is eil Manning yo brady
@markos2529
@markos2529 3 года назад
@@iJeffChiefsKing Somewhere in a retirement home probably?
@pierreaziz6267
@pierreaziz6267 3 года назад
@@iJeffChiefsKing bro guess what who is Patrick’s Eli ....... ITS TOM THE GOAT 🐐 BRADY
@sharrybaythompson1935
@sharrybaythompson1935 3 года назад
maybe because kryptonite isn't a person?
@jaleesagreene6800
@jaleesagreene6800 3 года назад
I like that one.
@MrDanielWP
@MrDanielWP 3 года назад
Brady didn't eat up 30% of his team's cap. Mahomes is gonna limit himself.
@randallbetuela8150
@randallbetuela8150 3 года назад
Truth brother
@its_marcel_
@its_marcel_ 3 года назад
Doesn’t matter when u have veach as GM have u noticed what this mastermind did in this offseason and draft??.
@MrDanielWP
@MrDanielWP 2 года назад
@@its_marcel_ We'll see. As long as he has Cheetah and Kelsey, he has reliable targets.
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 2 года назад
@@MrDanielWP yea so reliable dropping tds and key 3rd down catches
@frankgagnon9300
@frankgagnon9300 2 года назад
Most fans dont understand that. Brady doesn't get enough credit for that
@149sown
@149sown 3 года назад
I love their camaraderie! They debate not argue. They give each other kudos when they make a good point and clown each other too. Best sports talk show 👊🏿
@AndyTheGypsy
@AndyTheGypsy 3 года назад
I agree
@bucstime1270
@bucstime1270 3 года назад
Marcellus absolutely wiped the floor with Acho on this one, lol.
@TheJonOrtiz
@TheJonOrtiz 3 года назад
Mahomes hasn’t even passed Montana and P. Manning..
@japanfour292
@japanfour292 3 года назад
Or Eli Manning
@TheJonOrtiz
@TheJonOrtiz 3 года назад
@@japanfour292 or Rogers
@MEanPenguin908
@MEanPenguin908 3 года назад
@@japanfour292 I was just about to say that lol
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 3 года назад
@@japanfour292 eli trash
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 3 года назад
Or favre, steve young, aikman etc
@seriously6654
@seriously6654 3 года назад
How many times has someone brought up Eli when arguing Brady. Well guess who’s Patrick’s Eli?
@boki424
@boki424 3 года назад
Exactly, in 20 years, maybe that's all Brady will be to Mahomes 😁
@michaeljackson3612
@michaeljackson3612 3 года назад
Brady got Eli twice and the Eagles Backup QB if Pat don’t lose again and wins as much Super Bowls him losing to Brady won’t mean that much especially cause Brady don’t play defense.
@seriously6654
@seriously6654 3 года назад
@@michaeljackson3612 Patrick doesn’t play defense either.
@michaeljackson3612
@michaeljackson3612 3 года назад
@@seriously6654 No duh smh lol you got the right name 🤦🏾‍♂️😭
@USATheFallen
@USATheFallen 3 года назад
Guess who's Tom's dad and uncle the mannings.
@wakawaka1976
@wakawaka1976 3 года назад
People are so stupid. They don’t realize how hard it is to stay healthy in the NFL. They don’t realize how hard it is to win a SB. If Mahomes wins just one more he will be fortunate.
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 2 года назад
It is hard to win SB’s...... unless you’re as lucky as Brady
@wakawaka1976
@wakawaka1976 2 года назад
@@chrisuncleahmad totally. “Luck” is a skill but it works both ways it would seem. If it wasn’t for “lucky” catches from the Giants Tom could have had two more rings. Sure he got lucky against the Seahawks but to even get down there their receiver made a lucky catch that bounced off his legs.
@fito7191
@fito7191 2 года назад
@@wakawaka1976 actually the seahawks got lucky and then they screwd it, but yea ppl dont realize how hard is to stay healthy specially for a mobile QB as Mahomes, he is awsome but he will be lucky to be playing 20 years.
@DarthVader-td2uh
@DarthVader-td2uh 2 года назад
Agreed, 7 rings bro, nobody will ever do it again.
@noni5961
@noni5961 2 года назад
The way Mahomes plays too, I doubt his longevity.
@amkobra
@amkobra 3 года назад
You can't compare early 2000s to now.
@MrBezl
@MrBezl 3 года назад
But you can compare those defenses Brady had... he’s had only two defenses out of top 16 twice in his 21 year career. That’s crazy. Brady only won mvp in the Super Bowls because it’s nearly impossible to not win it as a qb. Ask Damien Williams for the chiefs most recently. If one player on the bucs d dominated instead of the total group domination they had that one defender would have won mvp. It’s the name of the game. Mvp qb. Sb mvp qb. That’s why I think qbs need a separate award
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 3 года назад
@@MrBezl Brady had good defenses because he took -50% below market value on his contract. Other QBs can do the same.
@kenflagler493
@kenflagler493 3 года назад
Facts when Brady came in the league it was not as pass happy the way it is now
@paulmann5328
@paulmann5328 3 года назад
@@codyvandal2860 as a Patriots fan I need yall to stop spreading the lie about his salary. Those cap hits were huge. Cap is how you build a team, not salary. In fact we still had to pay him this past year hence the no money to give Cam a real contract etc.
@richardadkins8722
@richardadkins8722 3 года назад
B
@pleaseNthanx
@pleaseNthanx 3 года назад
That Usian Bolt example was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@AMac5
@AMac5 3 года назад
Big Facts!!!! That sealed this debate for Cell...
@bounty1026
@bounty1026 3 года назад
It actually wasn’t, usain bolt was the world junior champion at 15, an broke and still has the world junior record of 19.93 at the age of 17. He had back issues which set him back for some years until he did rehab to his back and changed his training program. Then he became the legend we know today. But I get where he was coming from
@AMac5
@AMac5 3 года назад
@@bounty1026~ nobody knows this information unless you look it up....that's his point... Usain Bolt didn't get national recognition @15 and 17 yrs old...
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 3 года назад
@@AMac5 breaking records,but athletics isnt that popular at youth levels
@bounty1026
@bounty1026 3 года назад
Take this in into consideration, usain bolt was 15 years old when he won the world junior 200m, juniors go all the way up to 19 years of age, he won it at 15!! Then at 17 he broke the world junior record which still stands at 19.93. We have adults that don’t run that time today, he did it at 17, when he broke the world records he was only 21 going on 22 some collegiate athletes are still that age. Usain bolt is and has always been a monster an was ranked above anyone in his age group
@rightorracist8203
@rightorracist8203 3 года назад
Brady won 3 in his first 4 seasons. Acho showed “two appearances”. Meaning he is counting Brady’s rookie season when he didn’t play? Cmon man
@voiceoverduleey6176
@voiceoverduleey6176 3 года назад
Wow he won two by game winning kicks and Deion Branch... Won 3 and no MVP
@sophx3004
@sophx3004 3 года назад
No he's counting the first 3 starting years, brady won the SB, then didnt, then won in his 3rd year Mahomes didnt his first, then won his second year, then lost the SB in his 3rd. (Mahomes has only played 3 seasons)
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 3 года назад
@@voiceoverduleey6176 literally every qb has won playoff games by FGs yet it's only a prob when brady does it
@gregorylagrange
@gregorylagrange 3 года назад
@@arizonaFIREent It's because they credit only Brady. This is another argument where context is taken out to favor Brady. Brady's first super bowl, he shouldn't have been there. But that context is removed to favor Brady. They're comparing somebody who has had 20 years worth of attempts, taking that total number of accomplishments, and comparing it to somebody that has 3 years worth of attempts. They bring up Brady's age as if he's a running back. Outside the kicking positions, the qb has the most longevity of any position in football. They bring up head to head between Brady and Mahomes. Remove the context of one player doing something basic as lining up offsides on a play that ends the game in favor of Mahomes. Thereby removing context to favor Brady. Brady goes to Tampa and wins a super bowl. Talk about that only in the context of Tampa's franchise record in the years since they were an expansion team, instead of talking about it in the context of what they team had now and how much a hinderance a team has with a qb who throws 30 interceptions. And how much that helps a team simply by replacing it with a decent QB.
@iHasCaek
@iHasCaek 3 года назад
@@gregorylagrange so youre saying brady improved the teams chances of winning in all of those situations. thanks captain obvious.
@reelguy8856
@reelguy8856 3 года назад
One of the best rebuttals I’ve heard from Marcellus.
@rplett
@rplett 3 года назад
Brady playing till he’s 65 now! 😂🤣🤡
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 3 года назад
The Bucs could have won the SB if Trubisky was QB.
@Ekim1740
@Ekim1740 3 года назад
@@chrisuncleahmad Did that defense score?
@arylumbanraja
@arylumbanraja 3 года назад
@@chrisuncleahmad maybe chiefs should consider to replace mahomo with trubisky
@rplett
@rplett 3 года назад
@@chrisuncleahmad They didn’t even make the playoffs the year before Brady came you ignorant troll. Brady changed the whole culture, brought in free agents who all scored TDs in the SB. Brady, by far, is the biggest reason why they won you low IQ 🤡
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 3 года назад
@@arylumbanraja bruh
@hanniefrei
@hanniefrei 3 года назад
Brady will not retire at this point because of Mahomes lol. But seriously, Brady proved himself for 21 seasons. Mahomes is great but will he have Bradys longevity and luck in avoiding injuries? Rodgers and Wilson won SBs early on their careers but they haven't won since.
@robertlipsett2535
@robertlipsett2535 2 года назад
Mahomes is a great quarterback but his style of play will not lead to longevity. He opens himself up to a lot of serious damage. I will be amazed if he last 10 years though he looked real good playing through his pain in the superbowl
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 2 года назад
the difference is mahomes has been to more sb then rodgers and when Wilson was going to the sb he was getting carried by the defense and run game
@rookyred
@rookyred 2 года назад
Not to mention Big Ben won his SB as a rookie right? so Pat slow your role....
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 2 года назад
@@rookyred where was his regualr season w 5000 yards and 50 tds
@rookyred
@rookyred 2 года назад
@@jaysonsmith7264 Please elaborate... thank ya...
@donniethomas6785
@donniethomas6785 3 года назад
Gonna be hard for pat just on the fact tom beat him in the superbowl and the AFC championship game taking two superbowls away from him
@ozzieloki2419
@ozzieloki2419 3 года назад
He'd have to win more sb to wipe away the loses. It's on Andy Reid on how many they'll win. Football changes and unless you change with it, eventually the train will stop. Happened to lots before them.
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 3 года назад
@@ozzieloki2419 except if you're brady,
@ozzieloki2419
@ozzieloki2419 3 года назад
@@chrisuncleahmad The train did stop for Brady, why he went to the bucs. For a better team to win sb. He wanted to win now and not in a season or two. If they made the championship game that season. 99% chance he doesn't move on. Pat's was ever changing and always competitive, he left when they weren't any more.
@reginaldaustin5341
@reginaldaustin5341 3 года назад
@@ozzieloki2419 if he is still winning the train didn't stop fool it just took a different route 😉
@yourguidetorights3909
@yourguidetorights3909 3 года назад
Good point. Hadn't considered that.
@MrJblazini
@MrJblazini 3 года назад
If Mahomes can win with the offensive talent Tom had to play with a majority of his career we can talk.
@carloshinojosa4351
@carloshinojosa4351 3 года назад
Exaclty. They’ll make excuses saying belichick helped Brady but then when Brady wins without him it’s the “weapons” he only threw to 3 guys who are slower than mahomes guys, mahomes is good but we’re literally acting like he’s the next big thing. That’s how Aaron Rodgers started and look what happened
@nexusproject2290
@nexusproject2290 3 года назад
JESUS...........THANK YOUUUU lol i love how Tom has literally had to prove every step of the way what he is. slowly climbing the QB ranks over the years, he had 3 superbowls in his first 4 years starting and no one was putting him above any all time greats. There were people that would take one of his contemporaries over him ( Peyton Manning). Pat although great hasnt even passed Elway Marino Montana Rodgers Manning Brees.........list im sure could be longer but the fact that people are putting him over these other greats like they didnt exist is flat out disrespectful. Everyone is always prisoner of the moment and i genuinely hope pat has a long career but jesus yall need to put some respect on Bradys name. Tom has prevented 2 extra rings on Pats finger and the one ring he has was barely won against Bradys backup.
@swaran8251
@swaran8251 3 года назад
He has 6 wins when his defense gave up more than 28 and thats more than teams not qbs but teams in history of sb.
@carloshinojosa4351
@carloshinojosa4351 3 года назад
@@nexusproject2290 exaclty. All those qbs we consider greats were for the most part working their way. Rodgers had to sit and even ex 49ers gm said they should have taken Rodgers over smith but they needed a guy to sit and learn. Brees had to fight in San Diego to play for thr saints. Peyton took hits to be considered great. This was the same hype about gunslinger favre and Rodgers. Rodgers been doing what mahomes did for years it’s just you expect that out of him. And everyone gets excited when thr new guy shows that
@carbon.the.christ5626
@carbon.the.christ5626 3 года назад
or just without cheating
@anquirojm4123
@anquirojm4123 3 года назад
When Dan Marino entered the league everybody said: this man will be the greatest one and win more SB's than any other. No SB wins. Great QB. When PM wins, at least 4, to be in the same class of Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana, THEN let the convo begin about GOAT.
@rmm3803
@rmm3803 3 года назад
At 4 rings? When Brady has 7, with possibly another on the way, the way they've retained that entire roster? My point is this, it's too early to set the bar for those who come after Brady just yet, because as much as I hate admitting it, Brady from all appearamces is not yet done stunning the wotld with his insane accomplishments.
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 3 года назад
@@rmm3803 it's never enough for him. Brady thinks he's entitled to win all the time.
@anquirojm4123
@anquirojm4123 3 года назад
@@rmm3803 I just, to start the convo. To be on the radar. With 1, no way.
@kristofertompkins3746
@kristofertompkins3746 3 года назад
I read that PM as Peyton Manning. LoL
@Rosepapi
@Rosepapi 3 года назад
@@rmm3803 No one considers Bill Russell the greatest off all time and he’s has 12 titles while Michael has 6. It’s not just about titles, championships are team successes, so when we judge the greats we look at team success and individual success. If Mahomes has great individual numbers and multiple super bowl wins, and does it in a way we haven’t seen he can def be in the convo. Can’t just look at Super Bowls and say well that’s it.
@johnbarela8146
@johnbarela8146 3 года назад
Everyone was saying that Aaron Rogers was going to be the next "Great Quarterback"! Now how many SB's does Rogers have? So let's not start counting SB's until they are in the bank!!!
@MrDanielWP
@MrDanielWP 3 года назад
Mahomes could probably run this league after Brady, but he is not the same quality as Brady. No one else could do what Brady did with those Patriots teams.
@leebauman223
@leebauman223 3 года назад
My god 1 super bowl win and people lose their minds. I like Mahomes and believe he is amazing but at the end of the day he only has one chip! Last time I checked 1 is less than 7.....
@kyletucker3811
@kyletucker3811 3 года назад
Let's be real here, this conversation shouldn't even start until he gets past the Montana mark. If he does that, gets more MVPs, and breaks all his records by a mile, then we can start talking.
@ki_tb1293
@ki_tb1293 3 года назад
@@kyletucker3811 perfectly said ✌️💯
@jeremy95ize
@jeremy95ize 3 года назад
Y’all act like mahomes played 20 years like Tom let’s come back in 20 years like he said
@ki_tb1293
@ki_tb1293 3 года назад
@@jeremy95ize NO! That’s the point. This conversation should NOT EVEN be HAPPENING!!!💯
@arylumbanraja
@arylumbanraja 3 года назад
@@kyletucker3811 he must get 5 rings to surpass Montana
@LakersNinersFan
@LakersNinersFan 3 года назад
LMAO! Acho bringing up Lebron actually proves Wiley's point of how Mahomes will never be able to surpass Brady. Lebron has never and will never surpass Jordan just like Mahomes has never and will never surpass Brady.
@tornadoknight3996
@tornadoknight3996 3 года назад
Brady isn't even done lol 😂... also those early 2000 rules were way rougher than today's rules. Brady was a year in and year out top 5 mvp candidate even in those early years. Brady gets disrespected in individual conversations a lot like the record books aren't his 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@jeremy95ize
@jeremy95ize 3 года назад
No he was not he wasn’t even a runner up he didn’t win his first till 07 so let’s stop the cap, oh and you can google these facts
@ricanvibez
@ricanvibez 3 года назад
@@jeremy95ize Brady finished 2nd in the mvp race his 3rd year as a starter.
@aaronjackson9385
@aaronjackson9385 3 года назад
@@jeremy95ize he said top 5 MVP voting, right? Well Brady was 3rd in MVP voting 03 and 05.
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 3 года назад
Brady has thrived in a watered down era of flag football.
@tonihearns5902
@tonihearns5902 2 года назад
@Kevin Le Facts
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 3 года назад
In the words of Denzel Washington: "King Kong ain't got sh*t on me"
@1AJBOOMER
@1AJBOOMER 3 года назад
T.B is the G.O.A.T
@mr.hansholmes2367
@mr.hansholmes2367 3 года назад
Bullsheet.
@DAV3RAG3
@DAV3RAG3 3 года назад
Tb is the last hope for immobile qb because it’s a wrap.
@asickspartan2763
@asickspartan2763 3 года назад
@@DAV3RAG3 unless someone replicates what he’s doing...winning
@yeelicious-6232
@yeelicious-6232 3 года назад
@@asickspartan2763 winning is a team thing not a quarterback thing.
@tonyrivera3240
@tonyrivera3240 3 года назад
No one: Tom Brady: That’s when I took it personal.
@Justin-bo4nq
@Justin-bo4nq 3 года назад
Marcellus had this argument won before it even started 😆
@thathawaiiandude787
@thathawaiiandude787 3 года назад
Wholly sh!!t....that last few minutes Marcellus said before going to commercial wasn’t a drop the mic moment....it was a body slam that dang mic moment!
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
@PlayafromtheHimalayas 3 года назад
Brady won several SBs with scrubs. What will Mahomes do when kc can't afford the superstars?
@5starathlete804
@5starathlete804 3 года назад
Good system, great coaching and great defense.
@nuddz
@nuddz 3 года назад
With scrubs?lol
@carlito_148
@carlito_148 3 года назад
Solid point .. Both are amazing . Mahomes is best ive ever seen at peak best game Rodgers right behind him. However Brady is the best ever. He is always on
@caper087
@caper087 3 года назад
They never had scrubs lol... maybe on the offensive side but everytime they won they always had a top defense
@eile4219
@eile4219 3 года назад
@@5starathlete804 some people argued Andy Reid is the top 5 coach of all time.
@NoOne-td4vg
@NoOne-td4vg 3 года назад
IF Pat Mahomes wins a SB in 10 years, he will be handed the newly named "Tom Brady Trophy", adding salt to this wound
@rodneyhall3991
@rodneyhall3991 2 года назад
Bruh big facts that will be wild
@signupstuff
@signupstuff 3 года назад
The most impressive thing about Brady is his consistent performance through a merry-go-round of changing rosters over 2 decades. When Mahomes is consistently getting into the playoffs even when Hill and Kelce have moved on, then I think he enters the conversation. In the meantime he joins a large list of QBs that were supposed to be 'the next Brady' but fizzled out.
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 2 года назад
Belichick always covered that up
@iansansan255
@iansansan255 Год назад
@@chrisuncleahmad Bill covered up defense Brady made sure that offense was always putting up points
@victoregglestonn4166
@victoregglestonn4166 10 месяцев назад
Tom had great defense..pat not so...pat hand downs
@KenChern
@KenChern 3 года назад
First rule in investment: any projection about future needs to be discounted before you can compare it to the present. Second rule in investment: past records don’t imply or guarantee future performance.
@andrebillups4079
@andrebillups4079 3 года назад
But Patrick can't be the greatest if he doesn't beat the greatest while he's still playing and older. If Pat doesn't knock him off when it really matters then at no point was he actually better than Brady no matter when they finish
@ShamanK1977
@ShamanK1977 3 года назад
Eh, if he wins 8 Super Bowls it's up for discussion...
@ShamanK1977
@ShamanK1977 3 года назад
@Kevin Le Huge IFs, I don't think it will happen. But the idea that just because he lost to TB12 doesn't mean he can ever be considered better doesn't jive with me.
@andrebillups4079
@andrebillups4079 3 года назад
@@ShamanK1977 I'm sorry no if you don't beat the greatest and you had a chance to how can you be the greatest when it was already proven you couldnt top the greatest ever in the big games when it really mattered. That's already Rodgers problem and that will always be the debate. If he wins after Brady retires it'll just prove more how great Brady really was that he couldn't beat him but starts beating everyone else after he retires
@ShamanK1977
@ShamanK1977 3 года назад
@@andrebillups4079 We're speaking of a player who is not even close to his prime going against someone who is master of his craft. You look at the career.
@andrebillups4079
@andrebillups4079 3 года назад
@@ShamanK1977 yea I guess you can say that too. Thats true
@kryan1234567890
@kryan1234567890 3 года назад
Ocho’s suit looks like yellow mustard lol... Wiley’s takes = 🔥
@EBLego
@EBLego 3 года назад
Tom: "And I took that personally..."
@gladiator1348
@gladiator1348 3 года назад
Acho my man, this was your best show to date on sfy! You had no conjecture or bloviating, just good quality takes and it raised the level of every discussion with marcellus. I'm very excited to see this continue. Great show again!!
@jbinkley22
@jbinkley22 3 года назад
This is the best show on FS1 for sure best takes, best moderator, most entertaining and even the best theme song lol
@roshee5573
@roshee5573 3 года назад
I watched a lot of NFL shows but this today was one of the best debates in have seen in a loonng time . Both had very valid arguments. Great debate!
@susanmaggiora4800
@susanmaggiora4800 3 года назад
Yeah, this was a really good discussion.
@rickt1951
@rickt1951 3 года назад
Mahomes should wait till he at least passes Eli before talking.
@IsmokeHiphopLive
@IsmokeHiphopLive 3 года назад
mahomes is a better qb hands down already pass eli. only casual fans mention eli.
@lambro3001
@lambro3001 3 года назад
You mean the QB that beat TB twice in the SB?
@rickt1951
@rickt1951 3 года назад
@@lambro3001 yes that guy.
@aprilbrown9655
@aprilbrown9655 3 года назад
U are so right
@kingtombrady2111
@kingtombrady2111 3 года назад
Tom the GOAT 🐐
@arylumbanraja
@arylumbanraja 3 года назад
@first last Maho is lucky get beaten by 43 years old Brady
@yournotthatguy2230
@yournotthatguy2230 3 года назад
Tom got lucky on 5 rings. Brady throws 5 yard slants and relies on him coach and defense
@arylumbanraja
@arylumbanraja 3 года назад
Maho is lucky to win SB54, it was proven in SB55 where he played like circus performer, he threw ball to the moon and didn't score a touchdown
@yournotthatguy2230
@yournotthatguy2230 3 года назад
@@TheKing-pq3iv Yessir
@kungfumonkey1245
@kungfumonkey1245 3 года назад
@@yournotthatguy2230 If they know he's throwing 5 yard slants, then why can't they stop him. Against Carolina the Pats had 1st ranked D giving up 14.9 ppg for the regular season and 14 ppg in the playoffs. The 1st ranked D gave up 29 points to Carolinas 15th ranked offense. Against the Eagles Pats 2nd ranked D giving up 16.3 ppg for the season and 15 ppg in the playoffs. The Pats D gave up 21 points to the Eagles. Against Seattle the Pats 8th ranked D giving up 19.6 ppg for the season and 19 ppg for the playoffs. The Pats D gave up 24 points to Seattle. Against Atlanta the Pats 1st ranked D giving up 15.6 ppg for the season and 16.5 ppg for the playoffs. The Pats D gave up 28 points to Atlanta. I see a pattern here Top ten D giving up more points than they usually do, so Brady has to bail em out. Wow! Belichick a defensive guru can't be relied on.
@trentalexander2413
@trentalexander2413 3 года назад
Taking a humble “L” prepares one to appreciate the victory
@ghassanayyad
@ghassanayyad 3 года назад
Nobody comes anywhere near close to MJ. Put some respect on his name.
@kdogg716
@kdogg716 3 года назад
FACTS!!!! they, BOTH, be hating on MJ
@dogg311
@dogg311 3 года назад
MJ played a none contact sport!!! The man doesn’t deserve respect when we talking about football
@ghassanayyad
@ghassanayyad 3 года назад
@@dogg311 non contact sport?? Lol i want what your smoking on bro. Basketball in the 90s was a different game. You ever heard of the Jordan rules? Go do your homework fam. If MJ played today he’d average 60 a game no cap.
@dogg311
@dogg311 3 года назад
@@ghassanayyad people that played football in the 90s have CTE what are you on about basketball is a non contract sport .
@ghassanayyad
@ghassanayyad 2 года назад
@@dogg311 look up the Jordan Rules then come back and tell me it wasn’t a contact sport
@nickjimenez7921
@nickjimenez7921 3 года назад
No one is going to have as many bowls as Brady nothing else matter
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 2 года назад
mahomes only needs to get 6
@adamlatour8837
@adamlatour8837 3 года назад
History would say Mahomes only have a couple more years of the super bowl window being open. Tom has made people think it's easy to make or even win the super bowl.
@brothersar5957
@brothersar5957 3 года назад
I think the world's gone crazy Mahomes was actually being humble in my opinion bc how could he possibly act like his career will be better and last 20yrs when we all know tomorrow's not promised
@8urvett
@8urvett 3 года назад
As they say "Past performance is no guarantee of future results".
@brothersar5957
@brothersar5957 3 года назад
@mjac167 He did "get his bell rung" in the SB, lol -
@jonfaughn9575
@jonfaughn9575 2 года назад
"How many TDs did you in your prime self throw?!" "DOUGHNUT!" 🤣🤣
@lassdichformen8553
@lassdichformen8553 3 года назад
It's funny how Mohommes has already surpassed ELWAY- MONTANA-MARINO- BRADSHAW-BREES-RODGERS-FARVE and so on, some would say even BRADY... SMH REALLY
@user-rn4tt9gw2p
@user-rn4tt9gw2p 3 года назад
How has he passed those bums...I need to see rings...little by little the league gonna catch up to mahomo=Lamar jackson redskins ex Qb Griffin
@seppiesq3706
@seppiesq3706 3 года назад
???? I nvr heard that
@gauguste6810
@gauguste6810 3 года назад
BARS💯
@shirleywong4684
@shirleywong4684 3 года назад
Marcellus’s Superman vs Kryptonite comment? GOLD. 👏👏👏
@aidantaylor117
@aidantaylor117 3 года назад
he really hit mahomes with the salon 😂😂💀
@taylora8325
@taylora8325 3 года назад
That was great. Taking acho to school. Acho at the end "we'll see in 20 years"
@michaelbeltran5009
@michaelbeltran5009 3 года назад
Acho forgot Tom had 2 Super Bowl MVPs also and was undefeated in the playoffs through the first 3 SBs
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 2 года назад
one of those sb mvps he threw for 147 yards😂
@michaelbeltran5009
@michaelbeltran5009 2 года назад
@@jaysonsmith7264 which one
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 2 года назад
@@michaelbeltran5009 against the rams
@michaelbeltran5009
@michaelbeltran5009 2 года назад
@@jaysonsmith7264 true and so is the rest of my statements. And Brady’s age 40 to 43 is better than Mahomes last 3 years
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 2 года назад
@@michaelbeltran5009 in what way😂
@Ghost.0311
@Ghost.0311 3 года назад
Love this show!
@Kevin187z1
@Kevin187z1 2 года назад
Great debate, Great Takes, Great Dressers . Loved the Superman Analogy / Bar Marcellus dropped.
@TheSlayer71782
@TheSlayer71782 3 года назад
Love this show. You two are better than Skip and Ol' Shay Shay.
@k-way6146
@k-way6146 3 года назад
Never
@JasenMinus
@JasenMinus 3 года назад
Nah.
@intothefrayyo
@intothefrayyo 3 года назад
🧢
@TheSlayer71782
@TheSlayer71782 3 года назад
The only reason I said this is cause Skip Bayless is trash and everyone knows it.
@thaanonymous776
@thaanonymous776 3 года назад
They’re better than Skip for sure, but let’s not act like Shannon is trash
@timladd5008
@timladd5008 3 года назад
This show is so much more genuine than undisputed. Put these 2 guys on more.
@JJ-zy3zv
@JJ-zy3zv 2 года назад
This is a good show. I really like how they do things. It’s like collaborative trash talk
@maryatkinson2978
@maryatkinson2978 2 года назад
The whole MaHomes family looking salty on Twitter😹😹Remember when his mom called out Giesle during the SB😺😺Mahomes family just a reflection of each other🙀🙀
@parkerjeans4040
@parkerjeans4040 3 года назад
Mahomes worst stats come when he plays Tom Brady, everytime
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 2 года назад
did u watch the afc champ? mahomes outplayed brady
@parkerjeans4040
@parkerjeans4040 2 года назад
@@jaysonsmith7264 Brady is in the NFC now AFCCG means nothing. And who outplayed who in the Superbowl? Brady made Mahomes look like a 3rd string QB
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 2 года назад
@@parkerjeans4040 i mean switch the roles around and brady wouldnt have scored a point but okay act like it was even😂
@swiftslick
@swiftslick 3 года назад
So, Mahomes thinks he's getting 6 more rings? Old man Andy Reid & that offense arent going to make 6 more Superbowls.
@enigma13ff
@enigma13ff 3 года назад
He doesn't need to win 6 rings, he needs to be a better QB(which he technically is). The same with Rodgers is a better QB than Brady, not taking anything away from the GOAT but if many other QBs had a top 10 defense 18 out of the 19 seasons they played, the best coach of all time, in a poor division, in a period where the QB is well protected they would have more rings. Brady is amazing, he also lucked out.
@antoniomatthews4459
@antoniomatthews4459 3 года назад
@@enigma13ff Or maybe Brady gets rid of the ball quick. Which helps the o-line.
@SycoticForeverNeverAF
@SycoticForeverNeverAF 3 года назад
@@antoniomatthews4459 Spotted the casual. Brady has had one of the best o-lines in football for most of his career.
@antoniomatthews4459
@antoniomatthews4459 3 года назад
@@SycoticForeverNeverAF I guess Bosa is a casual too when he talks of Brady's quick release along with countless sports analysts. He beat your team, let it go.
@enigma13ff
@enigma13ff 3 года назад
@@antoniomatthews4459 did you watch the Super Bowl? Mahomes had not time, the same way Rodgers and Brees had no time. Secondly a checkdown is useless on 3rd and long when you are down 10+ points.
@mattgibney4085
@mattgibney4085 2 года назад
I’ll never forget that day, Brady passed the torch from himself to himself. Chiefs have never been the same after Brady clapped their cheeks. I haven’t heard goat talk ever again from anyone
@lucianosimmons3003
@lucianosimmons3003 3 года назад
It's like a dad fighting his son. Lmao! Well put point Acho
@martinwalker4320
@martinwalker4320 3 года назад
I hate when people say Brady didn’t have talent around him, he took pay cuts to get what he wanted.. He always invested in a oline and a defense..
@HGsoul4ever
@HGsoul4ever 3 года назад
The defense argument is very silly when you realize that between 2001 and 2020, the difference between #1 and #20 in terms of points allowed is less than three points per game. And Brady did play with scrubs. His #1 WR (Edelman) caused a stir on twitter because people were in an uproar over him being brought up in the HOF argument. So many people found his performances subpar.
@kylekujawa
@kylekujawa 3 года назад
Bro, an MVP is not the same as a super bowl ring. No one really counts MVPs, you only do that if you are tied in Championships. And they are defiantly not tied in that right now
@johnsantana9078
@johnsantana9078 2 года назад
Your killing bro. Mahone should keep making those Insurance commercials. hahahahaha
@iangibson6015
@iangibson6015 3 года назад
I've always thought, because athletes get sponsorship deals, that they are under pressure not to do or say anything that would reflect badly on their sponsors. Aside from that, the sartorial splendour on display today is refreshing to see. It's uplifting to see you blasting the cobwebs off the chat show format.
@jerodtabb311
@jerodtabb311 3 года назад
Whom eva decision it was too get rid of Whitley two thumbs up..this show is wayyyy better wit these two 💯💪 jus my thoughts right or wrong
@patrickregistre3576
@patrickregistre3576 3 года назад
True story
@romeyrome3812
@romeyrome3812 3 года назад
Big facts!! 💯%
@deusflexmachina22
@deusflexmachina22 3 года назад
Mahomes took over a loaded team that was a perennial playoff team with a proven SB offensive genius coach. Brady took over a team that went 5-11 the previous year and was 0-2 the season he took over with.... does anyone talk about the weapons he had at his disposal and a losing head coach.... give me a break with the comparison
@shawnsanders9450
@shawnsanders9450 3 года назад
He did it again by taking over a 7-9 team. He literally won the Superbowl in the first year after taking over losing teams. One being a first year starter. One being 43 years old with no off-season or pre season.
@brosifstalin415
@brosifstalin415 3 года назад
Lol, that "perennial playoff team" won exactly one playoff game since 1993... And that was in 2015. When Mahomes took over they instantly go to an AFC title game and have now gone to three straight, the Chiefs never won the Lamar Hunt trophy till Mahomes got here.
@deusflexmachina22
@deusflexmachina22 3 года назад
@@brosifstalin415 under Reid the Chiefs have made the playoffs 6 out of 7 years that’s perennial. The point of my comment is towards Acho comparing the beginning of Mahomes and Brady’s NFL start
@johnlofland805
@johnlofland805 3 года назад
Mr. Wiley. I have come to enjoy your show. There doesn't seem to be any BS and you're comment's are enlightening to me. Continued success.
@lifeblessings5243
@lifeblessings5243 2 года назад
Thank you TB-12 You’re a legend in the sport of the NFL!!!!!!!!!! Greatness
@Tomas-ql9yo
@Tomas-ql9yo 3 года назад
Wow, these two guys first Like the way they dress, love color in suits Then, love the way they analyze the situation Great commentators
@Ranzoe813
@Ranzoe813 3 года назад
I really like the guys teal suite with that tie..lol, it's like there fashion is a bonus to there great commentary...
@RealWainWrightCarter
@RealWainWrightCarter 3 года назад
I wish every athlete the best, but let’s face it ya’ll, ain’t a soul catching Tom Brady as the GOAT of quarterbacks, especially when they go back to back this year for his 8th Super Bowl win... 🐐
@AndyTheGypsy
@AndyTheGypsy 3 года назад
These dudes are awesome. Big fan of this combo!
@elgitoamboklo5007
@elgitoamboklo5007 3 года назад
These guys are just the most amazing sports show! Goats!
@LakersNinersFan
@LakersNinersFan 3 года назад
Mahomes already took an L to Brady so he's gotta overcome that before he looks ahead 20 years in the future. Plus, Mahomes will never take the pay cuts Brady took to keep a great team around him so he'll never reach the level of Brady.
@anthonyhca
@anthonyhca 3 года назад
He took an L to thr Bucs defense.
@janso7979
@janso7979 3 года назад
@@anthonyhca The Chiefs lost by 22 points. Bucs could have given up 3 touchdowns and still won.
@YuckFouTube2
@YuckFouTube2 3 года назад
brady has cheated his entire career, only been caught 3 times?? brady's wife makes more money than him. Most players have to make decisions based off money to take care of their family. If brady had to worry about money like most do he wouldn't of taken those pay cuts and would of had lesser players around him. Those that think life is more like Checkers than Chess, I don't expect you to understand
@DLites151
@DLites151 3 года назад
This was the tweet that made me really want Mahomes go get waxed year in, year out
@marbel4987
@marbel4987 3 года назад
You’re all funny guys... I love watching y’all the time😀🤪😎
@hiddengem9742
@hiddengem9742 3 года назад
Wiley is the goat of debate host. It keeps it 💯 and I always look forward to what he has to say
@lauriesmith9019
@lauriesmith9019 3 года назад
Brady, Montana, Manning..... Mahomes a long way down the list
@Kevin187z1
@Kevin187z1 2 года назад
Brees, Rodgers, Marino, Elway, etc. You right. This is foolishness to even put Lil Patty in this convo.
@aldosembiring608
@aldosembiring608 3 года назад
Boy he’s lucky never faced ray lewis and get hit like a truck.
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 2 года назад
Brady’s lucky he never had to face Lawrence Taylor
@seancunningham5812
@seancunningham5812 3 года назад
Epic end..lol..Keep up the great work guys..
@keith9240
@keith9240 3 года назад
Seems to me like somebody is forgetting that this is a team sport we're talking about.
@billbuyers8683
@billbuyers8683 3 года назад
Hey run around the field 500 yards and throw 30 yard + incompletions the entire game instead of playing like a GOAT.
@matthewcolwell6593
@matthewcolwell6593 3 года назад
If Mahomes career ended right now, within a couple years we’d be trying to find someone else in the goat talks. It’s the nature of having so much media cover but at the same time we gotta chill lol. Brady is light years of Montana lol, who is pretty far ahead of the field as it is
@JoeSmith-ey2xp
@JoeSmith-ey2xp 2 года назад
Marcellus Wiley nails it again. Entertaining discussion.
@gabrielfranklin3880
@gabrielfranklin3880 3 года назад
this guys are awesome!!!
@MrPazz1972
@MrPazz1972 3 года назад
Mahomes has the best team he wil ever have and he can't play the style he does for 5 years, nevermind 20
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 3 года назад
bingo. and the window is already closing
@anthonydesenso5028
@anthonydesenso5028 3 года назад
Cody Vandal how is the window closing they signed elite offensive lineman and didn’t lose anyone of value on defense
@anthonydesenso5028
@anthonydesenso5028 3 года назад
Cody Vandal plus they’re the favorites to win this year
@srhodes6963
@srhodes6963 3 года назад
That tweet is forever and mahomes may forever regret posting it
@robcanfield5944
@robcanfield5944 3 года назад
I guarantee he will!
@clwxrf6007
@clwxrf6007 3 года назад
No, he will not regret it! Talk your sh*t Patrick!
@AverageJoeTwoPoint0
@AverageJoeTwoPoint0 3 года назад
Their chemistry is electric bro. Gezuz
@miamivlad
@miamivlad 3 года назад
I looked up the stats. If Brady stopped playing right now, Mahomes needs something like 15 more straight seasons of averaging 4500 yds a season without missing a single game to catch Brady in total passing yards. In the words of Taken the movie, “Good Luck”! 😂
@harshilpatel8217
@harshilpatel8217 3 года назад
We’ve seen Brady with legit scrubs...we have yet to see Mahomes without kelce and hill....
@shawnmoney8055
@shawnmoney8055 3 года назад
So happy King Brady humbled the KC fans they were getting real arrogant.
@wblake22
@wblake22 3 года назад
Not really Brady. That Tampa defense
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 3 года назад
And now here come the arrogant Bucs 'fans' who were Cowboy fans 2 years ago.
@akabbossking3414
@akabbossking3414 3 года назад
@@chrisuncleahmad huh? How? If anything they were pats fan cuz of Brady and now r Bucs fan cuz of Brady
@BijinMCMXC
@BijinMCMXC 3 года назад
@@wblake22 Keep telling yourself that.
@enigma13ff
@enigma13ff 3 года назад
@@wblake22 Bringo, Mahomes had no time to throw all game. Not to mention Brady hand picked a team that was a QB away, remember the Packagers game? It's nice being able to throw three INTs in a row and still win when you have a stud defense.
@therichreeves
@therichreeves 3 года назад
"That's a bar" 💀
@stoutdog56
@stoutdog56 3 года назад
BRILLIANT!!! Thought provoking!
@judon4908
@judon4908 3 года назад
The scary part is Pat Mahomes is not in his prime yet; people just say that because he's the best we've ever seen talent wise but once he reaches his apex on the mental aspect of the game then he will be in his prime
@lyleswavel320
@lyleswavel320 3 года назад
He'll be worse than cam Newton, all broken up, shoulders messed up, knees, hips and legs shot from so many injuries and surgeries
@MrXxAcexX
@MrXxAcexX 3 года назад
What's scary is Tom is still beating him at 43 years of age.
@001M19
@001M19 3 года назад
@@MrXxAcexX 🤣💯👍🏻
@judon4908
@judon4908 3 года назад
@@MrXxAcexX How are you scared of a movie you've seen 100 times? 🙄
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 3 года назад
Its the nfl his age is prime for the most part. Yea he still could be better but in the nfl you're always one hit away from being a has been
@lajuan3474
@lajuan3474 3 года назад
Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes DON'T PLAY AGAINST EACH OTHER......They play against their defense.
@ki_tb1293
@ki_tb1293 3 года назад
I want to just scream that to everyone!!!
@UNerdz_
@UNerdz_ 3 года назад
This is what kills me about ppl saying this QB beat that QB, it's one of the most aggravating things about listening to football analyst lmao
@bakugosrage8976
@bakugosrage8976 3 года назад
Quarterbacks have the most fragile ego on the field so yes they mentally plain against the opposing quarterback. He would of most like audible to a run if he wasn't playing the G.O.A.T accross the field.
@markallen9218
@markallen9218 2 года назад
I love Marcellus Wiley the goat of sports commentating. Not just because he knows sports an his delivery is impeccable but because he breaks us off constantly with tools that not only the professional player he's talking about can use but ones that we can use in everyday life. Go back to about 14:30 when he said "Quiet Arrogance" til the commercial my dude went in!!!💯💪 An he is not a hater!! M.W keep spitting them bars for years to come my dude!!!
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