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Will it survive!? (GWM Ute vs Hilux vs D-Max 2022 outback comparison review) 

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@AussieKawiman
@AussieKawiman 2 года назад
Have loved the GWM from the day it was released, Yeah it is not a full on off roader but neither is most consumers, Sold my Pimped up Prado as I am not hard core and have ordered a GWM Canon L, Should have done it from the start.. Great value at the price and who cares about resale, Why sell it, All Diesel/Petrol vehicles will be worth nothing in 5-10 years anyway...Thanks for the great realistic review...
@positivepete4265
@positivepete4265 Год назад
I reckon it is a full off roader, unless you have $200k and want to match what these youtube nut bags get up to down under, these utes fit the requirements of 99% of the population
@Rich-ms6te
@Rich-ms6te Месяц назад
wont be as worthless as the failing elec car market . it is now 2024
@sailingcitrinesunset4065
@sailingcitrinesunset4065 2 года назад
At the end of the day they're all work utes and none of them are worth more than $25,000! How much they cost is a joke!
@somenutjob
@somenutjob 2 года назад
You won't get a 10 year old hilux for $25k these days
@sailingcitrinesunset4065
@sailingcitrinesunset4065 2 года назад
@@somenutjob I know it's crazy! It's not like they're Bentley's!!
@AlexanderTheGrateful
@AlexanderTheGrateful 2 года назад
The biggest joke is that people go out and buy them!! That’s why they price them that high!! Idiots keep buying them!! Having said that I put an order in for an X terrain Dmax
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 2 года назад
Idiots and fools are becoming more abundant. Instead of getting upset about it though, take advantage of people stupidity and capitalise on it. Sell them crap wrapped in shininess and you'll be rich in no time. 👍
@tman4915
@tman4915 Год назад
Built to sell not built to last. We live in a disposable society. Everything is a throw away! Me living in the sates I will tell you most trucks/ utes are well in the 50k usd some topping at over 100k for a damn truck!. We have some low end ones like the ford maverick but ford has loads or recalls on them. Chevy makes the Colorado and it’s a piece of 💩. Chrysler hasn’t made the dodge Dakota in years. We don’t have Chinese cars in our market because we still don’t trust their cars but that could change.
@fakejake8965
@fakejake8965 2 года назад
My Cannon-X is on dirt roads hauling a trailer every week. No problems at all and 400NM/120kW is enough in isolation (Hilux had less power up to 5 "minutes" ago) Lane assist is rubbish but when I hit the freeways near the city is works OK. For the money can't fault it.
@nigelb6262
@nigelb6262 2 года назад
Have had a Cannon X now for 14 months and absolutely love it - no faults at all. Great service from the 3 dealers I've used
@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
Thams for the info. I will be going for this one too. This bakkie is called the P series here in Zimbabwe.
@amygodsall6085
@amygodsall6085 Год назад
I love my Cannon X too - the step in the tailgate is such a good idea’n
@robmetalheathen
@robmetalheathen Год назад
Why have you been to 3 dealers in 14 months?
@amygodsall6085
@amygodsall6085 Год назад
@@robmetalheathen because if they are anything like my local one, they have shit service. Can anyone give me a legitimate reason to disconnect the dash cam as soon as you drive it in the workshop when doing the 5000km service???
@nigelb6262
@nigelb6262 Год назад
@Rob sanders because of where I was working at the time - most convenient one. Parramatta was easily the best they take video of your car, what they're doing and the parts they will use
@ajliebenberg6125
@ajliebenberg6125 2 года назад
Spend a couple grand to improve the GWM's lacking parts and you still het a cheaper vehicle that can do the same and has more features.
@SCX1718U
@SCX1718U 2 года назад
70k for a Hilux vs GWM Cannon with a camper trailer and spare cash left, very tempting.
@HermanWillems
@HermanWillems Год назад
Totally depends on the resale value. If you lose more money on the Cannon than the Hilux is cheaper in total cost of ownership.
@klubcj
@klubcj Год назад
@@HermanWillems can buy two car, don’t care if I lose more money. I will get the Canon any time and good camper trailer or a boat
@ensteffo
@ensteffo 5 месяцев назад
@@HermanWillems The Hilux is so expensive new that you lose more money relative to the resale value so no Hilux is not cheaper in total ownership cost any way you look at it.
@edboyes
@edboyes 2 года назад
15 months with the Cannon X and 15k on the clock. It’s done the Flinders Rangers on L8-L9 tracks, towed a 2.5t caravan and is a city commuter. No issues with rusting or quality. Unlike previous GWM vehicles, this Ute has reputable parts from ZF, Borg Warner and Bosch. I don’t think anyone will say it’s a Ranger or Hilux but to be honest, who pushes their vehicles to that extreme. With 3t towing, 300kg ball weight, 1050kg in the tray, the only Ute to have a tailgate step, 7yr warranty and for $41k it’s fantastic.
@beerensekhon7475
@beerensekhon7475 2 года назад
Old mate has no idea. Put 25k in the gwm and it will be the same as a 70k hilux n 60k d max
@orangejuicepony6881
@orangejuicepony6881 2 года назад
@@beerensekhon7475 It will be better actually
@TheMintox
@TheMintox 2 года назад
If GWM is so awesome then how come they sell stuff all of them?
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 2 года назад
Buying a GWM, you also have funded the military hardware that will be used to invade Taiwan.
@edboyes
@edboyes 2 года назад
@@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 I’m sorry about your sight issues, are you partially or fully blind? Go look at the made in labels around your commune and you’ll see that clothes, crockery, kitchen utensils, linen, electronics and components were made in China. Yes, the same place that kept Australia afloat by purchasing whatever is dig out of the ground. For your info, GWM is a private company I’m not owned by the Chinese government like LDV is.
@franko3006
@franko3006 2 года назад
so what you saying is put some good suspension on the GWM turn off the lane assist and your good to go. did you mention the GWM has better warranty. if the hilux ans dmax are so great why cant they warrant their cars for 7 years
@tzeshenlim
@tzeshenlim 2 года назад
😄😆🤣
@scottchin3582
@scottchin3582 2 года назад
The Japanese utes are getting really expensive and feel like rip-off!
@ryand8461
@ryand8461 2 года назад
Then get a Chinese knock off that’ll sit in the repair shop in a few years .
@allomony4010
@allomony4010 2 года назад
I am sure you will find the cost of ownership will be way less with the Japanese cars. The Great Wall will depreciate at a rapid rate. And they have had issues with early surface rust on the panels. You get what you pay for
@TractorChamp.
@TractorChamp. 2 года назад
Absolutely true. They are riding on there name.
@anthonysimoes7307
@anthonysimoes7307 2 года назад
What Japanese utes .. They don't exist anymore, all made in Thailand
@AJ-qn6gd
@AJ-qn6gd 2 года назад
Getting dearer whilst finding ever cheaper countries to assemble them in !
@brianward2313
@brianward2313 2 года назад
DONT FORGET........GWM cannon is the first Generation of this ute. Versus the 8th Generation of the Hilux and 3rd generation of the Isuzu. also the comment about climbing a hill the cannon couldn't do because seeing over the bonnet the 360 camera on the cannon can be turned on when climbing such hills.. After market Suspension upgrades incl 2 inch lift's our also available now.......... Cheers
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
You're wrong mate, everything in the Cannon is proven. The Cannon is a newer version if the Steed. Do your diligence and learn the facts before you start spreading wrong facts.
@777_callum
@777_callum 2 года назад
@@chriswording8638 May I ask where you got the information saying that its just a newer version of the steed? The whole thing is redesigned. I think your the one spreading false info
@brianward2313
@brianward2313 2 года назад
@Chris Wording sorry Chris you are wrong .. the Cannon is a completely different vehicle than the steed also the name Great Wall Motors was also dropped that's why it's called GWM.. they wanted to not be connected to the Steed .. and again it's a brand new design.. in fact under the dash it has lots of Haval components.. people just get upset for even in this test that was done.. the GWM cannon was still there at the end and the difference in price to the others just can't handle.. drive one and you will buy one...
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
@@brianward2313 the Steed 6 was (is) the previous model of the Ute and still selling off existing stock around the world. The Cannon is simply a newer iteration of it under a new model name for AU/NZ. New as any new Ranger or Hilux I suppose. GWM is still Great Wall Motor (GWM), not a new brand or rebranding anything. The only difference is, that GWM now is actually sold directly through the factory (giving a lifeline to dozens of Holden dealers and staff) and not a third party importer.
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
@@777_callum lol. It is still an evolution of the Steed mate (previous model - current model). Facts are that GWM making Utes for over 30 years and they have manufactured over 10 million engines. So nothing NEW to GWM...
@kirovfactory
@kirovfactory 2 года назад
In South Africa the D23 Navara equipped with the 140kw 450Nm YD25 was smoked by GWM in a 0-100. but as mentioned in the video at high speed, peak power speaks.
@gwgillham
@gwgillham 2 года назад
Shouldn't be driving a bakkie (ute) at high speeds anyway
@louisoost80
@louisoost80 2 года назад
Good cruising speed around 150kph.
@bling7724
@bling7724 Год назад
Just did 102000 in my first Cannon just purchased my second one. Value, economy, comfort and style. I work in central qld and have had no issues on or off road.
@simonlombardo6576
@simonlombardo6576 2 года назад
Please do a similar comparison with the musso! Its good to see someone finally considering the cheaper utes in a comparison test. I would love to see a comparison of the base spec dual cab from every manufacturer. How does a $34k ute stack up against a base model hilux or ranger or triton?
@Auzzzie82
@Auzzzie82 2 года назад
You will find it on RU-vid! Out of 8 Utes the Museo came last
@nikiwong968
@nikiwong968 2 года назад
after hearing all the positive notes from gmw owners, I have eagerly placed an order of gmw and will get it in 2wks
@nigelb6262
@nigelb6262 8 месяцев назад
GWM not gmw
@CycloneSir
@CycloneSir 14 дней назад
Hehehe, hell, I would also call it a GMW
@jamaicasysbm2580
@jamaicasysbm2580 2 года назад
Most Ute owners go to the supermarket and beach
@MrNeroDiablo
@MrNeroDiablo 2 года назад
All that time and distance and you missed a few things TBH. The Hilux air box is notorious for letting dust in did anyone bother to check, did we look at the other two? Alternators have been gradually sinking in engine bays which has implications for water crossings and driving in muddy conditions how do these compare? How easy is to to change a fuel filter and reset the light should you get a bad lot of fuel or for that matter bleed up the system should you run it dry? What are the stock tyre sizes, profiles and availability of off road tyres in these sizes i.e. wander into the tyre shop at somewhere broken hill and see what they carry in stock. Having run a few vehicles in mineral exploration these are some of the areas a modern 4wd tend to fall over in.
@offroadingfoz
@offroadingfoz 2 года назад
Exactly, this is the type of reviews we need! I don’t care about lane keep assist it’s bad on most cars so turn it off we get it, it’s annoying, blame ancap ratings and move on. One thing I noticed was the huge dusting inside on dash etc. were windows open when it happened or is it the seals? The Dmax looked the worst?
@neilmorrison2422
@neilmorrison2422 2 года назад
So true …. Different when you go bush trying to get fancy wheel and tyre sizes💁‍♂️
@RyanLye1975
@RyanLye1975 2 года назад
Um .. except for QUALITY. THEN YOU HAVE THE REAL MONETARY COST .. OF MUCH DECREASED.. RESALE value. Chinese vehicles turn out NOT to be (so) cheap afterall. At ALL. THEN also : is the issue of the TOYOTA: Overpriced, mediocre at it's job compared to most other model available. It's only "virtue"? is toughness/?reliability. But who want to own and drive a cockroach than can survive a nuclear holocaust?
@redbrickize
@redbrickize 2 года назад
How fascinating that us nowadays are so obsessed with numbers peak power and torque etc etc. so the 2015- 2018 or even early hilux(apart from SR5 which is ?top model) have 360NM, but I think there are tons of people still drive them around the town, and still tow up to 3.2tons(hilux legal limit for that model), if you think 363NM is lower than 400NM, I’m just wondering how people drive a 2015-2018 mid range hilux feel? Slow or lack of power on towing?
@newport5504
@newport5504 2 года назад
Bloody rust buckets man, open the doors up , mine are rooted rust everywhere inside the doors and under the carpet floor
@fakejake8965
@fakejake8965 2 года назад
@@newport5504 I haven't heard of rust being a big issue with Hiluxes
@christianlitsch1320
@christianlitsch1320 Год назад
​@@fakejake8965I think he's talking about the GWM. Next door neighbours mixed use city & farm Hilux has 780k on it & no rust or dramas aside regular factory servicing.
@ryant2568
@ryant2568 2 года назад
I know they are Ute's but let's be honest, most will never see a dirt road like this. And so if you are one of those people that want a ute for the look then the saving on a GWM makes a lot of sense.
@waynev5097
@waynev5097 Год назад
Apart from the front end being a bit soft it went okay - just slow down a bit for the washouts - frankly if I spent $70k on a vehicle I would be slowing down anyway.
@tacorevenge87
@tacorevenge87 Год назад
@@waynev5097 😂
@scotty2746
@scotty2746 2 года назад
I have the cannon L ….Agree the suspension is more rigid but the 25K I saved buying other big names I can soon fix that issue.
@markchesterfield6118
@markchesterfield6118 2 года назад
Thanks Ponch! Another great, and as always, honest review. Having driven a GWM I reckon I could live with the power deficit (it's just not that obvious in isolation) and a quick trip to Pedders should sort out that front end. Keep up the amazing work!
@chasingcars
@chasingcars 2 года назад
Thank you Mark!
@samueloluyinkaojomu6548
@samueloluyinkaojomu6548 Год назад
Do you think the GWM can be used to tow a car trailer for commercial purpose for towing cars on a daily basis
@markchesterfield6118
@markchesterfield6118 Год назад
@@samueloluyinkaojomu6548 I think it would do it easily and in great comfort. It wasn't that long ago that utes came with 115kw, 380nm, a five speed gearbox and 3,000kg towing capacity and they were used night and day for all sorts of heavy duty work including towing. The GWM has a clever 8 speed gearbox, permanent all wheel drive and a perfectly adequate motor. Get yourself an Ultimate 9 throttle controller and you'll be a very happy chappie!
@bobrob2917
@bobrob2917 Год назад
I have a '13 x200 w 5 speed auto, probably the same origin engine, the a 1t boat & trailer fine with it. Like he said the trans jumps into hi gears too early so often drive it in manual mode. With a heavier boot it might act better but not w these diesel prices. Economy is good w 8.5 - 9 on highway, 12 with the boat. Ill put a decent trans cooler w fan on mine as no low range so torque conveter will work when crawling around. Lots of electronics, and it will go to limp mode/ electronically accelerate. Disconnectedly in gear due to small things like water in fuel sensor. Toyota's won't stop for this, the newer GW may be more durable. Rev it, drop into gear & once rolling it will drive. Al in all got good bones, some drawbacks & quirks but cheap
@Gdsamplify
@Gdsamplify 2 года назад
Great review CC, you guys are killing it. would love to see more out-of-town tests like this.
@ajliebenberg6125
@ajliebenberg6125 2 года назад
Hilux has the shittiest interior out of basically all the utes
@speedymini998
@speedymini998 2 года назад
Good too see you guys doing the classic Aussie Outback test. These big outback drives have been missing for a while, could love to see you take an EV or any other new car on Broken Hill and back adventure.
@chasingcars
@chasingcars 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@mullerandre95
@mullerandre95 2 года назад
The new vehicle tests are nice, but not a real world comparison. Get the 3 vehicles 3 years down the road with all having done the same milage in the same type of environment, being used as a ute then test them against each other then. Toyota and Isuzu have been around for years and they have been developing their products for years. I'd take the Japanese contenders over the Chinese one until they prove themselves. I live in South Africa and if you talk utes here the Luxie is the benchmark. I agree that Toyota is too expensive for what you get but the market determines the price.
@tonywei423
@tonywei423 Год назад
GWM has been making Pickup trucks for 15-20 years, they follow ford and that is why different from Japanese makes.
@autopathos
@autopathos Год назад
​@@tonywei423 they only kinda follow some Ford design themes here and there but together with Haval (and Tank) they've been doing very much their own thing, except they keep doing things the Japanese way. The little info available suggest they work similar to Toyota or Honda when it comes to part availability, assembly line QC stoppages, thorough deterioration simulation, etc. but with a military-style twist. Some Spanish outlet quite sometime ago reported early morning exercising, drills and marching in obsessively clean assembly lines.
@bugsy1254
@bugsy1254 2 года назад
Thanks. Great review. I probably wouldn't drive like you guys while on dirt, so the suspension is not such an issue, although better shocks may improve it somewhat. I'm most interested in towing a small van. I would never consider a new Hilux or D max. Way too expensive. The GWM is very appealing and I'm guessing that being driven carefully and steady by an old fart such as myself, it may just be perfect for my needs.
@kalomboC
@kalomboC 2 года назад
Man, that off-road driving looks like it belongs in the Dakar 😅
@duncaninglis5407
@duncaninglis5407 2 года назад
@@kalomboC How good would it be to given 3 utes and told to rip in on outback tracks 😂 they have the best job
@peterj5751
@peterj5751 2 года назад
Your issue may be with how the relative lack of power goes when towing. It will only exacerbate it.
@lethenparkesTeamRacc
@lethenparkesTeamRacc 2 года назад
"you get what you pay for" by the looks of it the D-Max and Hilux have better Quality Control. especially with torque in the Hilux or the D-Max it will tow a small van up a hill better than the GWM. and the dmax and the hilux are known for reliability too from their past.
@peterj5751
@peterj5751 2 года назад
@@lethenparkesTeamRacc that is an important point. I don’t know that the GWM is going to not last as well as the other 2 but I don’t know that it will. So, there is a risk element of the unknown with buying the GWM. Of nothing else the resale will certainly reflect this.
@bigbazza73
@bigbazza73 Год назад
Who drives like this on dirt roads or tracks a rollover or bent chassis waiting to happen why retune the suspension just slow down.
@peter6516
@peter6516 Год назад
Interesting review. I'm in the market again for a new ute and I'm seriously considering the GWM. I had from new an RX NP300 for 5 years and did 500k. The reason I bought the RX single turbo was because I couldn't hack the delay when accelerating. The RX had no delay and felt like a petrol off the line so I installed the wheels, chrome bars on the rear and nudge bar. The point being, this model produced 120Kw of power with 400Nm of torque. Never was an issue and I suspect same with GWM. I used to tow cars on trailer just over 2 tonne. No issues. Only complaint was that despite the average fuel of under 8 litres per 100, when it towed it really sucked the diesel. Was very poor on the economy under towing conditions. But other than that, it had plenty of power for me so I suspect the GWM is just fine. If you're a V6 diesel punter then you'll never be satisfied with the GWM. But from what I'm reading, the GWM is hard to pass up if you have a limited budget.
@Dakaman65
@Dakaman65 2 года назад
I have a Cannon x and love it. Yes there are little quirks for a 1st Generation. Better suspension a slightly higher ground clearance. Better user interface and yes how about a interior light for the rear passengers. It can only get better with time. GWM are on the move as is LDV.
@hambo76
@hambo76 2 года назад
I can't wait for the second version - hopefully it addresses most of the shortcomings such as the rear interior light, software quirks, button to kill lane keep assist, 4H button (Cross Country Expert Mode), and more tub eyelets.
@angelopeiris
@angelopeiris 2 года назад
@@hambo76 4H already exists in canon X
@hambo76
@hambo76 2 года назад
@@angelopeiris It's hidden behind a different button.
@ignacioarguellol.244
@ignacioarguellol.244 2 года назад
Prices are crazy! In Ecuador 🇪🇨 the Hiliux it’s at $50k usd ! We just got an gwm poer and against all odds it surprise me! (I was esceptical about a Chinese car) The interior it’s top notch for the segment*apple car play * android auto *crisp display* hd backup camera * soft materials * lots of room. The other brands ! Give you the worst interior *cheap hard plastic *cheap third party display * cheap backup camera* out dated inteior in general ! The full version 4x2 its at $30k usd . Totally worth the 20k less , the litmus test is the engine long term performance.
@johnwayne8475
@johnwayne8475 Год назад
If 20k savings was put into your mortgage at 5% compound interest, you have saved 40k in 10 years, or 66k in 20 years. That's a round the world trip or retiring early, I know which I would choose!
@Monkeybrains90
@Monkeybrains90 2 года назад
Love reading the comments that people won't buy the gwm because it financially supports china, but it supports Australians too, the dealers, the servicing, parts departments, tyre shops etc . Look into Toyota and you'll see they heavily support china too. GAC Toyota is a joint venture with the Chinese government
@george6696
@george6696 Год назад
Do not forget, buying parts for chinese utes are far much cheaper than the Japanese parts, Chinese ute and cars are taking over, Japanese car are too expensive
@headingscrub9035
@headingscrub9035 2 года назад
Mitsubishi Sigma country, RIP Jack Absalom.
@rayleeaustralia
@rayleeaustralia 2 года назад
You're spot on with that lane keeping assist. Have a BMW X5 and that's also rubbish. Keeps tugging the steering left and right. Honestly how often do you drive in the middle of the road especially in inner suburbs. Wish they put that money into a crash cam instead
@allisterdavidson9805
@allisterdavidson9805 2 года назад
400nm was plenty 2 years, 3 years ago...can't see whats changed other than the big players beefing up more torque.
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
It's not about how much the engine makes, it's about what at the wheels. My 25 HP tractor will pull a 170 HP Hilux up the hill any day.
@hernendezsanchez7646
@hernendezsanchez7646 2 года назад
On the gwm you can simply turn the aircon on and off with the knobs and buttons on the centre console. You also have the option of going through the screen interface, but I think I did that once and completely disregarded it. I've also turned the lane keep assist down to the point that its quite reasonable to use now. Springs and shocks to be upgraded soon.
@ricomarais7654
@ricomarais7654 2 года назад
Ek kan drink
@chaseadams5037
@chaseadams5037 Год назад
I don't own a GWM because I'm not a traitor to Australia 🤷
@hernendezsanchez7646
@hernendezsanchez7646 Год назад
@@chaseadams5037 please tell me what you drive champ
@bigorsetomatoesauce6403
@bigorsetomatoesauce6403 Год назад
​@@chaseadams5037most of the 💩 you buy was made in China but go on
@russellmccandlish3132
@russellmccandlish3132 Год назад
I bet a Holden @@hernendezsanchez7646
@DarkDaze666
@DarkDaze666 2 года назад
The review overall went exactly how I expected, but some of the complaints, particularly about the DMax and GWM, was seriously nitpicking, especially regarding the tech. Not everyone wants toyota spec (see: none) interior. I offroad in a vehicle with all the tech in the world and it has never been an issue for me
@fyshi6226
@fyshi6226 Год назад
To me kinda felt like a typical Toyota/Hilux fan boy review. The hilux is good but its far from faultless and incredibly overpriced because of the hype
@LostPunk5545
@LostPunk5545 Год назад
Yeah, I thought that was a bit weird. I love all the tech in my Cannon X. When off-road it's not distracting at all. Can still use the stereo volume and air conditioner controls without touching the screen.
@eddiemoore5633
@eddiemoore5633 2 года назад
Wait for series update in GWM. There are a few engines in their line up (H9 twin turbo180kw/350nm) or (H6 1.5 hybrid 179kw/ 530nm) that will come later. Re do the stupid info stuff, and you have a keeper. Patients, lads. GWM is just getting started!!
@goldfools5445
@goldfools5445 2 года назад
Yea Nah! How many people pay the big money, rarely go off-road, still spend more than they earn on accessories, then wonder why mortgage payments and bills are a source of stress. Ok now that’s said. The GWM hasn’t got enough power and torque. It’s basically useless, 🤔 hang on, not as much as the others but more than any 4wd that was produced in an era when real 4wdriviers were hitting the tracks of Australia, without complaints. I don’t own a cannon, I do have a dual cab Ute that does the job. Btw I don’t hit washouts and blame the car.
@kevinrich5222
@kevinrich5222 2 года назад
In fact, GWM has a 3.0T engine with 354 hp and 500 Nm in China. However, it seems that GWM is not in a hurry to launch this engine overseas. Maybe it feels that relying on a lower price to expand overseas market share as soon as possible is the most important direction at present.
@hambo76
@hambo76 2 года назад
@@kevinrich5222 That 3.0l engine is petrol driven btw.
@simonwills6176
@simonwills6176 2 года назад
I have a cannon for a daily runner and some carrying materials for my Roofing company it's ok for that stuff but if I was gonna go out back I'd most probably buy a landrover 110
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- Год назад
So basically… you still get what you pay for. I was curious about the gwm (& haval), but it seems they are cheaper for a reason. Good cars, but not great cars. All still damn expensive though!
@jamieshields9521
@jamieshields9521 2 года назад
I have old 2011 D40 Nissan Navara n thinking of trading in, do you think GWM ute is right ute? Most of these new ute are just to expensive even at 50k + .
@dwaynethart6527
@dwaynethart6527 2 года назад
Keep it
@MsOpineminded
@MsOpineminded Год назад
$70K is ridiculous price just saying... Made in China has come a long way and continues to improve rapidly... Perfect is the enemy of good enough. OTOH...that front grill of the GWM, looks like a giant eyeball 😄 Was slightly disappointed, thought you were really going to put those buggers through the terrain, have them roll over some rocks.
@paulmcintosh5589
@paulmcintosh5589 2 года назад
I take it you are talking about the poorly sealing air box on the Hilux that allows the MAF to get dust on it and go into limp mode.
@peterburdett8131
@peterburdett8131 Год назад
If the choice is a new GWM or 10 year old Hilux I’d go a new car with a suspension tune
@grahamhastie896
@grahamhastie896 2 года назад
This paid political announcment is paid for by Toymota Austraya ( can certainly afford to with their $30,000 over charge across the range) I have never come across a standard off the showroom floor 4wd thats suspension is "suitable" for rough outback conditions like you are subjecting these to....Fair dinkum, give the vehicles, as presented, their dues...
@rambleon3698
@rambleon3698 2 года назад
Seemed to me watching the cars go round that sweeping curve, that the Toyo was the only one leaning right over. The other two were relatively flat. I see a lot of these leaning badly whilst lane swapping and powering round corners..Dont fancy it myself..
@davidmilledge221
@davidmilledge221 2 года назад
Hiux is made in Malaysia cheaper 4 Toyota so it should be cheaper 4 us , but it's not are we getting ripped off 4 lesser quality
@IKAPeajai
@IKAPeajai 2 года назад
In Malaysia Hilux rogue 2.8 price at rm150k or 50k australia dollar...2.4 version with 400nm priced at rm120k or 40k aus dollar...owner need wait 6 month or almost a year due long waiting list....in Malaysia after 10 year any Hilux reasale value still price at more than half at new price...
@bjp107
@bjp107 2 года назад
A good thorough review in true Aussie conditions. I have always thought that premium cloth is better than cheap leather. That sums up the Hilux vs GWM IMO. The dMax has early it’s stripes. It’s just down to personal preference and how much money you have to spend and what you are using it for.
@hambo76
@hambo76 2 года назад
Until you add children to the mix, then leather is a godsend!
@userisalex
@userisalex 2 года назад
@@hambo76 so are seat covers. Your mileage may vary..
@hambo76
@hambo76 2 года назад
@@userisalex If you're adding covers then the seat material matters not!
@waynev5097
@waynev5097 Год назад
True Aussie conditions????? I reckon less than 1 percent of drivers have ever driven on a dirt road - and not like those guys were! I would save the cash, drive a bit slower and enjoy the 7 year warranty.
@newport5504
@newport5504 2 года назад
Buy a navara instead of that rubbish Chinese car
@joelopic
@joelopic 2 года назад
Im gonna buy the CANNON X. I figured that i can do a full update with an engine tune, quality suspension upgrade and lift. Front and rear alloy bars with led lights. Big set of tyres and rims, tub roller cover, tow bar, anchor points, Rock sliders and ladder racks just to add insult. Then Take into account the extra centre airbag, wireless phone charger, 360 degree camera, anatonomous driver assist. Speakers upgrade and lots more. In conclusion, will still come out cheaper than the others with all that gear. Its good enough for me. If you do that to the Toyota it will cost you near 85 gran or more.
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
You don't actually need any of those upgrades. Take it from an actual owner of 18 months..
@joelopic
@joelopic 2 года назад
@@chriswording8638 that's promising to hear. I do a bit of light bush work and beach/ sand dunes. Dressing it up is just something I wanna personally do for my own satisfaction. Like a hobby project.
@michaelhynds7629
@michaelhynds7629 2 года назад
I wouldn't waste my money on chinese stuff. See how much it depreciates in about 5 years or so compared to a hilux.
@lindonjo
@lindonjo 2 года назад
Use some of the money saved and upgrade the suspension, and tyres. Still be lot cheaper
@johnhaigh8178
@johnhaigh8178 Год назад
I’d love to see a video of the GWM after $10g is spent upgrading it
@autopathos
@autopathos Год назад
There are a few OZ-based businesses fully dedicated to the Cannon, they're easy to find on Instagram.
@jaseciantar2760
@jaseciantar2760 2 года назад
If you press the temp ie 23 it will open up the ac screen … why do you not film yourselves going over the rough as you did in the GWM and made such a grunt going over in the other two? Bias? Hmm
@069diesel069
@069diesel069 10 месяцев назад
Our cannon x had lane assist pain, but had a wheel alignment and the fighting thr wheel is gone. So get a proper wheel alignment, and you’ll love your Chinese baby even more. Thanks GWM
@markb4822
@markb4822 2 года назад
Like nearly every review on a gwm ute the guy driving it doesnt know the features properly or how to use and adjust them.
@voodooillusion7219
@voodooillusion7219 2 года назад
Not many vehicles can compete with the hilux or just Toyota 4x4 in general on dirt roads that is what they have been made to do with that said most people don't drive off-road let's say ones a week or holidays find something that is comfortable my family have been buying Toyota 4x4 for years now. We have tried other 4x4 in our work fleet and still find that Toyota out lasts them. 4x4 in general are expensive and seems to be getting worse I think it would be extremely nice to have a choice if you want all the tec or just the bone botten stock no apple car play and rubbish like that
@ArwedLang
@ArwedLang Месяц назад
This is the 627th comment: GWM keep developing/improving and continues to excel in virtually all aspects:...WHY? Because they (GWM) have brought out a new Ute called Cannon Alpha. That Ute leaves all other Ute's behind as I travelled (with a 2.2 tonne caravan) 65000 km on Cannon X through the Simpson Desert and all TROUBLE free. MY new MUCH better Ute Alpha will do the same only better with lots more comfort....That is why I NEVER. would buy a pathetically expensive Ford Wildtrax, as the ALPA EXCEEDS the spec virtually in ALL aspects.. LONG LIVE GWM's.....
@russelldines5887
@russelldines5887 2 года назад
You really know how to communicate how a suspension's behaviour affects the driving experience. Top marks to you!
@MattH-l3i
@MattH-l3i 2 года назад
Chinese cars are crap
@55commodore
@55commodore 22 дня назад
I bought a Cannon X. I put a 2" lift in it from Fulcrum Suspension and it handles way better. It only cost $1500 all up. I turn off lane assist when off road but don't mind it on bitumen. I pull a 2 tonne Jayco with it and am very happy with the power from this car.
@jmd17
@jmd17 2 года назад
The comment at the end about the grill couldn't be more spot on it is hideous. Great video cheers
@clutchupkid7972
@clutchupkid7972 Год назад
Hate to be this guy but feels like you're actually just a bit past the time with tech. Drove one today and definitely didn't feel like too much and a bit of luxury in a ute is sometimes nice. The full 360 camera assists makes for a really good off-road experience when doing tight trails. If you want a basic no frills ute then maybe a used 2000 model Hilux is for you.... Also a better comparison to the rogue would be the XSR which has the beefier suspension.
@CarnivoreCambo64
@CarnivoreCambo64 Год назад
I drive hiluxes every day at work and I can say that my new cannon x kills the Toyota's, best dollars I have ever spent. I think that all the old school reviewers just can't get past the fact that (China) has killed it.
@Ironberg1
@Ironberg1 2 года назад
"Especially that grille" comment of the video at the end. Love it.
@jaineshwarlal9233
@jaineshwarlal9233 2 года назад
Isuzu for me always
@conmanumber1
@conmanumber1 2 года назад
Kinda reminds me of a U.S Toyota Tundra. Anyways I find it silly to have these reviews pitting specs against specs. Really who cares?, as all these vehicles will only be sold to buyers with the available funds which a begger that has the money to only buy a budget machine would be happy to afford what they got. If you have more money then sure, go buy next level up. It's no good raving about a budget machine against the top shelf brand as top shelf brand buyers would never look at anything lessor likewise when I buy tools I just buy the grade in my budget which is mid-high grade but I would never look at SnapOn or cheap.
@rossawood5075
@rossawood5075 2 года назад
In regard to the complaint re the GWM lack of torque, my now 14 year old PK Supercab Ranger has a sweet Mazda 3 liter diesel with just 380 nm and it has pulled a camper trailer and a 19 foot tandem caravan all over this country and mostly not the coastal routes, the Gibb, Streslecki, Oodnadatta, Boroloola to the South Western corner of WA, and that 380 nm does the job just fine, it just does it just fine, IMHO the breadth of torque is more important and driving to conditions. I am considering a new ute soon and I have looked at GWM, LDV and my preference may be a Sassong Musso ELX with optional suspension mods ie as with my old Ranger 2 inch lift, excellent KYB Scorcher shocks, Dynapro ATM's. And the Musso in that form only has 420 nm but a broad torque band and the same sweet Aisan 6 speed as in the Mazda/Isuzu and Hilux. I would like to see a similar test with the superbly assembled Musso, 7 year warranty and ( I think roadside assist) knowing that a fraction of the $20 - 25,000 saved on a Hilux or Ranger will allow a considerable amount of good aftermarket accessories, bar, canopy, lights. Toyota, Ford, Isuzu etc need to sharpen up their pricing, just look at the cost of the same vehicles in Thailand to see the big profit the Makers are touching the Australian buyers up with! As for reliability, Toyota have certainly had their problems, injectors, Cats, , Ford, no cooling on ZF autos and continual activation of limp mode towing in heat, failed dual mass clutches in earlier models, a fair share of low mileage 3.2 engine failures and turbos. Navaras, repeated rear main seal failures, and the list goes on. The Chinese manufacturers are here and improving a good product rapidly, some just have issues as many in the 60's did with what then was termed "Jap crap" until it was realised a Landcruiser was superior to a 22 or 2a Landrover and whats more didn't break axles every 5 minutes when snatching second gear with a load on the back, ask me how I know? History will repeat! Just my take!
@bnaccas76
@bnaccas76 3 месяца назад
The Cannon will unfortunately crawl up more challenging tracks with the front and rear lockers...if the clearance lets it. I saw this in person over Kings Birthday weekend in the high country. It was easily the best performing dual cab in the group and embarassed all of us. Only an 79 Series did better.
@bushmanbill8923
@bushmanbill8923 2 года назад
Finally a vehicle review that mentions how useless and enoying the modern day auto controlling safety electronics are. I prefer to drive the vehicle not have it drive for me. That’s why you need to pay more money to get a simple car that you are actually the driver. (79 cruiser) it’s the last of the (KISS) theory. We live in a throw away society now building shit vehicles that don’t last
@Rich-ms6te
@Rich-ms6te Месяц назад
I have the Dmax now 8 years and will buy another Dmax. Bullet proof.2024
@MarkMateljan-kc8ip
@MarkMateljan-kc8ip 2 месяца назад
Your simply comparing a vehicle that has been in the Australian market for around 50 year with upgrades over that time to a vehicle that has just entered the market, so I think you've been a bit harsh in some of your criticisms.
@clintjames8468
@clintjames8468 2 года назад
It seems a lot of the negative comes back to the suspension and you can buy a hell of a lot of suspension upgrades for 25k
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
Nothing wrong with the suspension. If you look at the video, they only show the GWM going through a dip. If you hit a dip at 100 KMh, in any car/ute you'll be flying around. Slow the f**K down and drive to conditions, problems solved..
@user-gk1nt6sm2z
@user-gk1nt6sm2z 6 месяцев назад
I have a 17 year old gen 4 pajero, mate has similar age, km prado. The prado engine blew. $16000 repair on a well maintained Toyota. I luv how dellusion Toyota die hards are.
@tshephangsithole750
@tshephangsithole750 2 года назад
Infotainment is very important for me. I would not buy a car without apple or android auto. I love the GWM screen size, especially using apple car play, maps look clear and huge, I don't need to zoom
@jamesgovett2501
@jamesgovett2501 2 года назад
You will get jack shit resale on that gwm thingie, spend a little more for the Toyota and you will get a far greater percentage back when it’s time to sell , the cheap ones are false economy in the long run and I would prefer the peace of mind if going around Australia as with Toyota you will get any parts from the milk bar to counrty towns like you could when Holdens were around and if they are out of your $$ range consider a looked after used one as it will be a better drive and you won’t get laughed at!
@hambo76
@hambo76 2 года назад
What fiddly systems for the air conditioning? You turn the left knob to lower the temperature and the right knob to raise the fan speed. There is a mode button to switch vents but do you need to change that all the time? Also, would you go driving in the outback without applying proper window tinting to help repel the heat? Lane Keep Assist is annoying and I wish there was a single button to disable it (especially when towing!). It's a shame reviewers aren't briefed on 4H which is called Cross Country Expert mode. It's not even in the manual but owners discover it via FB groups and love it!
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
Precisely, I was about to say the same. AC access is immediate, no menu to go through, you have button access. Takes two seconds to adjust anything. Lane keep assist only works if the car can clearly detect the two white lines (boundaries) of the road, which is hardly present on dirt roads. Which means it isn't active. When you go off-road, you adjust your tyre pressure and slow down. Looking at the video, hitting corrugations at 100 kmh with probably tyres set to 34 psi, of course the front will bounce around and eventually you'll cause damage to any car. You need to set the tyre pressure to 32 front and 30 psi rear when empty. Lastly I wish people would test cars if they owned it, not with the rental car mentality (we trash it, who cares, it isn't ours). I certainly don't drive my Cannon (nor any other car like a Hoon) and drive it to conditions, not like pedal to the metal.
@hambo76
@hambo76 2 года назад
@@chriswording8638 Agreed! Plus it's shod with highway tyres so perhaps change them too. Only issue with HVAC for me is that it's inoperable if indicators or reverse is engaged. Weird!
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
@@hambo76 yeah, little quirks and annoyances that need ironing out with a software update. But no car is perfect these days, just look on other Ute brand pages. Indeed, the Cannon comes with highway tyres, probably the least off road worthy tyres of any Ute sold. Still rated for M+S and will get you through conditions most people ever get to experience.
@hambo76
@hambo76 2 года назад
@@chriswording8638 I love mine so far :) I wish the seats had a ventilation feature and could tilt back a bit more for some more under-thigh support.
@sailingcitrinesunset4065
@sailingcitrinesunset4065 2 года назад
What tyre pressures did you have on these utes on the gravel outback roads? 21-25psi is recommended.
@terryseymour5343
@terryseymour5343 2 года назад
Tyres are not springs, the gravel dirt roads in the Pilbara and Kimberley have many sharp stones to cut into soft Tyres 🙄
@antslim168
@antslim168 6 месяцев назад
Mahindra pikup S10 is cheaper, stronger and more reliable than GWM.
@SickocrowAU
@SickocrowAU 2 года назад
What's the lifespan and cost of the injectors in these modern high torque diesels? I keep hearing thousands of dollars of injectors at 100-150k mark.
@jimmxjx2854
@jimmxjx2854 2 года назад
Lets all go and buy Chinese and support a shitty human rights record. Ask how they can make it at this cost and still distribute globally? That would be a good video for the consumer to process.
@JJ-yg1sf
@JJ-yg1sf 5 месяцев назад
GWM also provide 7 years warranty with unlimited km, so it is more competitve.
@tins_world299
@tins_world299 Год назад
Cheap = bad Expensive = good Just to save you some time, all of the gwm fan boys on here will argue until they are red in the face but the car is just garbage…
@terryjohnsen1689
@terryjohnsen1689 2 года назад
The Ranger at times has outsold the Hilux and always the DMax so it would have been good to include the biturbo Ranger in this test.. In regards to ride and power it would have been the bested the other vehicles.
@Oz_Men_Life_Style
@Oz_Men_Life_Style 2 года назад
Not until it breaks down in the desert
@rickhambrook7860
@rickhambrook7860 2 года назад
Exactly.
@jonnyd_vids
@jonnyd_vids 2 года назад
Im sorry but the Bi Turbo should never have been released.
@Munyabrwn
@Munyabrwn 2 года назад
Unreliable
@buncha5651
@buncha5651 2 года назад
10 speed auto is a disaster.
@cvytnioy56dvfuj4g7
@cvytnioy56dvfuj4g7 2 года назад
Now do it 100 times, see what vehicles are still going.
@Richard-sl8we
@Richard-sl8we 2 года назад
We all know the answer to this.
@davidandbrigittemckee500
@davidandbrigittemckee500 3 месяца назад
Will be looking at a GWM to buy soon don’t care about resale GWM is fantastic value for money
@rogerdepretto440
@rogerdepretto440 Год назад
Think your over reacting they only work horses why you need Horsepower? Are you towing a Caravan or something?
@chocolate-ou4kq
@chocolate-ou4kq Год назад
The GMW does have a great price BUT for sure it does not last and you will regret for life on buying this garbage
@christopher54179
@christopher54179 2 года назад
Shouldn’t be imported.
@joemclaughlin995
@joemclaughlin995 Год назад
Nobody's laughing now ! Well done Great Wall !
@kakoiigaijin
@kakoiigaijin 2 года назад
Would love to see the Musso in an outback comparative test.
@fpv88hsv
@fpv88hsv 2 года назад
😂😂🤣🤣
@robcampbell8559
@robcampbell8559 2 года назад
LMAO
@MRCtouring
@MRCtouring 2 года назад
Wind back a year or 2 the Hilux had very similar specs to the GWM.
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
Yet today even in top specs it lacks behind..
@cartlox2862
@cartlox2862 2 года назад
You lost me at Chinese made . Wouldn't take it if you payed me 40k... bye 👋
@MachinegunJ
@MachinegunJ 8 месяцев назад
its only cost you 40000$ why are you comparing to Hilux?
@PaddyBoy644
@PaddyBoy644 2 года назад
Three biggest problems I see are resale, badge snobbery and an under powered motor.
@iguanagoat799
@iguanagoat799 2 года назад
If you're travelling in the bush, reliability and service network/parts availability is critical, and there - the Hilux is and always will be king. Save $25k and buy an Hilux SR.
@ronalddumpster6168
@ronalddumpster6168 2 года назад
True, and in 10 years we know, there will always be a Toyota dealership, cant say the same for a Chinese one, especially if they decide to take Taiwan.
@simonwills6176
@simonwills6176 2 года назад
@Ronald Dumpster yep we said that about Holden and Ford aswell
@Auzzzie82
@Auzzzie82 2 года назад
@@ronalddumpster6168 China has every right to take Taiwan! We should be minding our own business
@johnhannonHanno
@johnhannonHanno 2 года назад
Why buy anything from China atm? They cost Australia heaps with their BS claims about our Beef and wine etc.
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
Yet they are the only ones buying $150 billion worth of iron ore and coal from us. What does Japan, the US and Europe buy from us in comparison? Nothing...
@Jagermonsta
@Jagermonsta 2 года назад
so what thy're saying is get a gwm, suspension, an exhaust and tune
@michaelpeters538
@michaelpeters538 2 года назад
Let’s face the facts. Not everyone can afford a $70,000 car. I have friends who’ve got the GWM and they love it. Firstly, they saved $20,000 - $25,000 and for what they use it for, bit off dirt road, beach, etc, it does the job. You could use that $20,000 saving to get a dyno tune to increase the power, upgrade the suspension and you’d have a duel cab that would possibly be on par with the Hilux in terms of its power and handling. And still have change from the $20,000!
@danielbredenkamp3957
@danielbredenkamp3957 2 года назад
Cheap and Chinese still have a long way to go before on par with Japanese brands...
@michaelpeters538
@michaelpeters538 2 года назад
And just think, 15 years ago, Kia and Hyundai were little known sardine tins. Now they are 2 of the more popular brands out there. The Chinese will get there in time. Most of the Japanese cars have parts made in China. Most everything in your house is made there in some form! Only a matter of time before they become a real competitor
@danielbredenkamp3957
@danielbredenkamp3957 2 года назад
@@michaelpeters538 well hood for them then. Until then, the majority of UTE buyers will probably remain Toyota customers...and for a good reason.
@chriswording8638
@chriswording8638 2 года назад
@@danielbredenkamp3957 and that's where you're very wrong. Either you are trolling for political reasons or know very little about how far Chinese car makers came in just the last 20 years, especially in the last 10 years. You need to have a well made and engineered product to gain a 5 star 2021 ANCAP rating.
@danielbredenkamp3957
@danielbredenkamp3957 2 года назад
@@chriswording8638 dude, they will have to prove that to the western world, who prefer Japanese products. I am not prepared to spend money and find out...I will take my chances with something I know to be worthy, reliable and which has a resale valilue I can trust. You are welcome to find out how "good" they have become first. And yes, I do not support policies or the human rights abuses of the CCP.
@tanmupps5997
@tanmupps5997 2 года назад
@ chasing cars i think you know that the takes the lead where is the x- terrain , the hilux is just an overpriced and overrated rust bucket for nothing
@chasingcars
@chasingcars 2 года назад
We ran an LS-U because that was what was available to us.
@heybird5660
@heybird5660 2 года назад
Rust bucket?
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