Will LeBron Ever be Considered a Mythical Sports Figure? | THE ODD COUPLE 

Because there is always the first half and end half of generation and he just clumped us all together.... 1991 here

Watch a Jordan mixtape. People really fail to realize, Jordan was must-see-tv. Not to mention he play all 82 games 11-13 times.

@@KNByam are you reading and comprehending? We both agree and saw Jordan play... you people are so eager with your assertions.. comprehend first..

Chris got me fucxed up...1987....give a Fucc about LeBron

KNByam...... Why you don't tell the whole story? why you keep things hidden? Jordan took a break , he was out for a whole season and a half.

Kobe's not mythical

I feel the same way.

It takes off the court stuff as well to be mythical, LeBron is the 2nd best player out of Kobe, Mj and him but his personality, hypocrisy and trashy fanbase makes him no where close to the other 2.

Same

Kobe is not in the conversation.......AT ALL! Y'all millennials really didn't eat h Kobe smh

​@@zumpttDo you really want to compare off the court stuff with those 3?

Facts

What’s a better a first round loss or a finals loss?

@@RetroNBA42 lebron has both so who cares

🤣🤣🤣

@@RetroNBA42 it’s hard to argue with the ignorant

He went to the final six time and won now those other year he couldn't get his team to the finals he was sit his azz at home watching the confetti drop his career is more than 6 years 🤦

@@DevanteBrown-md3rv that goes for everybody besides you don’t get participation trophies maybe LeBron does. Clutch is when you get to the big dance you make it count.

@@DevanteBrown-md3rv how many get their trophies did LeBron get? With that logic the Buffalo Bills are the greatest football team of all time they went to the Super Bowl four straight years with zero rings.

@@DevanteBrown-md3rv13 full seasons and accomplished more than Lebron in 21 years

Ali lost fights and no one remembers that because he fought the best and never ducked anyone.

Not Le whatever ASTRO turf head????

True but there was something mythical about 2018

Yep

@@ucheakusobi6281A finals sweep?

@@ucheakusobi6281that boat sailed in 2015 when he had the Warriors on the ropes without Kyrie and Love. I remember thinking “he might really do it!”, but he got “tired” and fell flat.

Lebron chased Jordan , he didn’t care how many teams it took , or how many coaches 🤡

Only the older millennials in their 40s now. If you didn't see 80s Jordan then you didn't really get to see Jordan. Air Jordan was made in the 80s. He had that young man energy. He dunked on everything!

@@drieey 90s Jordan was a master of his craft since he relied more on his game than on his athleticism. Either decade he was amazing.

@musicotensai yes he was but you had to see his build up to greatness to really appreciate it. His air Jordan era was legendary- the tongue wagging, the driving to the hoop, the hanging in the air was what made him epic even before he won anything.

​@drieey without 90s Jordan there would be no jordan it's a ridiculous argument. Gen Z got issues

@@drieey 80's Jordan was for sure his physical peak. He actually declined physically quite a bit by the mid 90's but his starting point was so high it didnt matter.

How much seasons did Jordan play? How much times did he go to the finals? well i guess if u only have one brain cell in these conversations then I would understand why U only see things from one way. As a Owner Lebron had brough more money to ur areana than Jordan ever was and lets put How much assists Lebron has over Jordan means people eat when Lebrons is playing If Jordan played in this era and did the things he was doing back then yall would not like him as much as yall Glaze him

@@RyuujinJakka-kt7peif LeBron played in the west he wouldn’t have that many finals appearances. No one cares.

Almost half Lebron career was in the finals 🤨

@@Rosecain27Same can be said for Jordan. More skilled players in Lebron era 🤷🏾‍♂️. 2016-2019 Warriors didn’t exist

@@marquisgreen4701 fair enough. It’s subjective dude I was just watching LeBron old highlights and best games. Rookie season was insane out of high school. The 25 straight game against Detroit. The game 6 in Boston 2012. The 3-1 against the 73 win GSW. I mean dude is incredible. He’s just so unlikeable 😂😭

Denzel had that until he started talking too much

Denzel still has that.... ​@@ahmorgan

Well stated

Media talks about him more than he himself talks

Tgis is very true.

So well said!

Kobe is a poor man’s mj after baseball 😂

Colorado

Don’t forget the 4 finals mvps I’ll take that over Kobe

@@nav9867 4*

@@nav9867 Hu? He won his supposed "4th" ring after having 6 mths off. C'mon man. He ain't MJ ok and he never will be. He's 4-8 in the play-offs to now. Out of the play-offs this year in the first round.

Facts

Ya I mean at first hearing it I was like naw but he literally redefined what a bad shot is. Like I don't think almost anyone thought you could have his shot selection being what it is at the volume that he shoots it while still being all time efficient. When he started off the 2015-2016 season the way he did I was stunned. I was like "this dude is on pace to make 400 threes!" 120 over his own record, and he did it, multiple times. He made a first ballet hall of famer look completely foolish in Chris Paul numerous times.

@@zackarykasprzak3073 crazy work

nah once you take your emotion out of it his story from beginning to end will be seen as alien

That’s KD😂

Smh lack of drive? Stop it with these bs narratives.

😂😂😂😂😂 u sound dumb

@@TheKondinhoyou can’t be the goat with losing record in finals that’s ridiculous man

Impatient or was being robbed of his prime by incompetent front office

@@wokeprodigy3718 he entered his prime. He had 10 12 plus years ahead of em at that point

Because he took 3 different teams to the championship that mythical in it self no superstars left teams an won championship in the next location

😂😂😂 for real he gives up all time , not me I did my job

@@powskipowskii304Why did he switch teams and fire coaches so damn much?

@@blaketindle4703 For One the GM job is to get they star players more help to win championships in which Cleveland GM didn’t do that so a free agent went to another team what the problem most people want him to stay and keep losing in Cleveland while Boston trade for Ray and KG….Ty Lue got a job Frankie V got a job Mike brown got a job he done so much with rookies coaching Mj couldn’t lead 3 different coaches to a championship let not forget Phil had to tell Mj in order for you to win you have to trust your team no coach had to tell that to lebron he the system

​@powskipowskii304 that's actually an argument against Lebron. If MJ played GM and teamed up with Hakeem, shaq, Malone, etc he would have 8-10 rings. Staying with one team, through builds and rebuilds is harder.

The flopping and complaining, lack of accountability, and his hypocrisy. Nope

Getting drunk is not the flu lmao

Jordan was promoted crazy by the media lol my own dad who is 60 years old said to me the other day has Jordan ever got blown out in a playoff game ? Why are they comparing ant to Jordan lmao and I laughed like wow they really brainwashed ppl bad lol of course Jordan has got blown out in the playoffs before but it was funny that he even asked that

​@boonebeasley9622 Soooo...your dad makes a comment and you equate that to brainwashing by the media? Nah...thats just a comment...lol

@@boonebeasley9622oh my that’s bad😂😂 how did Jordan reach this point when there’s literally record of everything he did in the league

LeBron does not have the awe factor when you watch him play, when you watched Jordan play you changed your facial expression, LeBron just knocked you over to score.

Even with the losses he still made it to 10 finals appearances 2nd behind Bill something that ain’t never been done

Jerry west,Elgin baylor,all Celtics from 60s yes been done many times

@@powskipowskii304 that’s even worse when you break it down. He went ten times and only got 4 rings. Lebron fans love stats and percentages except when it comes to final losses. Then you mention ten straight but leave out what was done to make that happen. Things that mj never had to do. He’s a great player he’s just not mythical or the goat. I believe my own eyes. Sorry

​@el8233 He played extremely well in some of those finals. Most players never compete for one. And basketball is a team game.

@@Jalenlane93 didn’t play well enough. And exactly it’s a team game when he takes an l but gets all the credit when he wins. Just like the guy that responded to me said HE made it to 10 straight final appearances. As if he didn’t need the other players to get there. Cmon y’all what makes Jordan mythical is that he’s never lost in the finals and two three peats something Lebron will never do. The warriors couldn’t even threepeat. Stop being fans and think for yourself.

Helluva List!!!Hard to Deny Any!

You forgot Lawrence Taylor

Kobe? didn't you listen what they said? not only Lebron is second best, he's approaching to be the GOAT , how can you be mythical if you're not even considered second best all time for people?

This is a good one. I agree.

& Tiger 🐯

He’s the chairman

He desperately wants the checks Nick Wright is getting!😂

I know, isn't it funny.

More people wanted to be like Kobe and Steph than Lebron, across all sports.

I don’t wanna be like Mike. I don’t want my personal opinions to be suppressed so I can get corporate money.

@@j-short5431 That is why nobody should idolize or look up to any celebrity and treat them different as if they're from another plane. Remembering Lebron and the whole NBA during the HK controversy makes me feel disgusted. Not just basketball players but actor/actress, authors, politicians, etc. The only people you should be looking up to are your parents and grandparents.

@@zxcvb3772 and what did LeBron do during the Hong Kong controversy?

They can’t . And the best part is… any great player gets compared too him , and he ain’t gotta say nothing . He never replies . He’s truly Mythical

Even with “social media “, where were you gonna find “flaws” with Two THREEPEAT? Just asking

What's funny is they say Lebron supposedly the goat but no one is comparing Anthony Edwards to him, no, they comparing him to Jordan!!!

@@gnnacharles1 Exactly - sports writers actually were brutal back in the day, people dont realise that the Jazz were favs over the bulls in Jordans last two finals because people thought every year would be Chicago's last on top and they had to lose soon. But they didnt. Jordan is legendary because what he achieved was so impossible and heroic it was like it had been movie scripted.

@@poocrayon4588 thank you

I mean to be fair though, the Bulls have been stinking it up ever since MJ left😂

@@leetraviusmckay2.066he meant where the league is. You missed the point not surprised though you must be an LBJ fan and IQ is not you people are known for

@@HZB_33😂😂😂😂😂 💯

@@HZB_33 lmao I got MJ over Lebron. Funny how you MJ sexuals are just as bad as the Lebron ones

@@HZB_33 funny how you think im a Lebron fan when I got MJ over him. Mj sexuals are just as bad as the Lebron ones, your getting emotional over a little joke

You're over thinking it. I's not about eras. Lebron has 1 legendary accomplishment (the Cleveland ring). He might play 30 years and that would be somewhat mythical. Lebron is a media creation. He's nowhere near MJ's impact. The only athlete I've seen on MJ's level (and he was bigger than MJ) is Ali.

Trust me, Kobe is mythical in Asia. They love that dude over there.

Asterisk. crying to have Green unfairly suspended in the finals was cheating. And Kyrie was the guy that won it for Cleveland​@@universityoffree

Mythical… Montana

I think the guys are talking from the perspective of wider American culture. Football has gained traction in the last few decades for sure. But its not really an American sport. Those lads you mentioned are at the top of any discussion regarding sporting greats. No arguments!

+Montana, Brady, Tiger, Gretzky

Culturally, we, in the US don't care about soccer.

FACTS

And of course most of the time he should not have passed the ball. In high pressure circumstances that was Not "the right basketball play".

Jordan never had confetti fall on his head while the other team celebrated.

Remember when Chuck said on national tv that he would slap anyone from media on the spot who says Lebron is greater than MJ? That was after the 2018 nba finals when lebron clearly quit on his team and chuck was so pissed about it. Grant Hill and Steve Smith was in the panel at that time and both agreed with chuck that Bron quit. It never happened with MJ.

Honestly it's still the same because he's not online or constantly on the media. He's kept up the mystique pretty well

@@RobJarrell63 I mean he’s 55+ I have a hard time imagining he knows how to even post on social media, hence the mystique lives on

It's not like Lebron has to act like a passive agressive teenage girl on social media. He doesnt have to post anything.

Exactly.

Indiana, the warriors, all of the eastern conference 😂

​@xtreme97 indiana definitely didn't fear him or the warriors didn't fear him tf is u smoking 😂

DeRozan and Lowry 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

​@@xtreme97the warriors beat his ass LMAO

Thank you 🙏

Hockey is too small of a sport and Pele is just viewed that way in certain parts of the world.

Exactly

I was just thinking this!

Yes.

Yep, if Ant gets the chip this year, if Wemby gets a better team around him soon - they both have the potential to be at least as "mythical" as LBJ, maybe even more

If Lebron had his same resume but it had all been done in Cleveland then there would be a legit goat argument because of the extra pressure of delivering for the home town team. Once he quit on Cleveland there was no potential for a real debate.

If he hit the ray Allen shot or Kyire shot of won with just him in 2015 he would be

Doesn't have 4 chips

@@nonamewillbegiven1217 3.5

The Nike outlets are full of them

bruh, no one is gettin jacked for their LEzesty's.😅😅😅

Nike doesn't give out life time endorsement deals to guys that don't sell sneakers 😂😂

LMAOOOOO

U can’t base everything on the Jordan standard. Wilt is a mythical figure but his shoes aren’t in the convo. Granted, he didn’t have shoes, but u don’t need to be a carbon copy of Jordan to have your legacy imprinted

Facts!! It's been obvious for years.

Never a stretch of dominance 8 str8 finals appearance 27 game win streak MVP four out of 5 years should have been unanimous MVP got robbed of one vote u people just be talking and hating and they robbed him of defense player of the year keep hating tho

@@donjuan3793 bro i love bron, i love love love his game and his career. i wear his jersey every week to the gym. watch every playoff game of his. its truly a blessing to see him play. BUT jordan is so iconic. he is the definition of the GOAT. he is synonymous with winning. unlike bron who never dominated the whole league like jordan did, its simply factual. i even like bron more as a person but its just facts bro, straight facts. there will never be an argument. jordan is the GOAT, bron is best of the rest. he distanced himself from magic bird kareem and kobe but he isn't pushing jordan, not even close.

​@@donjuan3793 Having a stretch over the WEAK EAST with Super Teams is not dominating.

@@hamira1696 I never said Bron was pushing MJ I got him number 2 as well u said it was never dominance I just seen that as BS to keep it real with you

@@donjuan3793listen listen listen He went to 10 straight out of the West? Exactly lol Leastern conference for a decade, and that’s a popular take 😅

Even Red Auerbach had Jordan #1 over Russell.

I knew.. Chris is deqd wrong the all did... It's usually the other way around... Like dudes who a4 old enough to see mj aren't saying lebron is be53 except prisoner kf the moment, the media, and rhose on the klurch check

yep - it was widely talked about in the early 90's after his first championship.

You’re welcome to call into the radio show

They don’t criticize his negative you must don’t see he get blame for not taking out the lakers trash after games 🤣

@@powskipowskii304 Most turnovers in NBA history. Most finals losses in NBA history. Losing finals record. Epic NBA Finals choking vs Dallas and San Antonio. That's the bad. The ugly is incessant flopping!

@@choward5430 Most point in nba history regular season and playoffs most playoff wins lead both teams in points rebounding assists steals blocks mins played while averaging a triple double in the finals….Most losses in the finals is Jerry west is 9 with a 1-9 record but lebron is worse but let me guess we’ll Jerry ain’t being call the goat 🐐 but his record is worse then lebron…Dallas beat Kobe and KD that year too but kobe and kd didn’t choke to Dallas but they lost too….lebron a flopper….so is curry harden CP3 Luka Jamal Murray and Joker but they get a pass for they flopping on 3 point shot going to the lane…when we see lebron get foul they don’t call when all y’all see is the reaction aw he crying to much go to replay see the foul in slow motion well he gotta play through it like huh 🤣🤣🤣

He is certainly top 10 but unclear veyond that. He has a funny style of playing and really doesn't work with other players. With other good players anyway. They all have to sacrifice for him, that's not true of the other greatest players.

Ali?

That’s false lol he’s one of the best athletes ever nobody knows who Wayne Gretzky is outside the U.S

@@cj2times955 How long did it take you to poll the entire world? Just curious

“Aura” how old are you dog😭

@@cj2times955 This is one of the dumbest statements anybody has ever made about sports. Genuinely. Gretzky is Canadian, and he's an icon in Canada, so... that already proves you wrong, but also, hockey is international. Worldwide, people love hockey. And Gretzky is universally considered the GOAT and there's really no argument for anybody else. So massive L for you.

I get what you're saying but at the same time he's more polarizing cause people are being payed to say all good things about him and everyone knows this I think when is all said and done he's probably going to be the most unliked superstar cause of his antics, his unaccountable ways, joining super teams, throwing his teammates under the bus, getting coaches fired, and much more to even consider him an icon or a legend cause of the rodes he took

You’re a millennial saying Glaze 🤡

Exactly you can’t compare nobody to bron because he’s freaking too good , he’s 1 of 1 , where as Jordan isn’t .. We will never see a second coming of Lebron

@@CorleoneSoup Naw you're 1 of 1 when they are still trying to replace you and you've been retired for 20 years. Think about it. Kobe, Khawhi, now Ant. Many more. By your logic, you can say we never seen another Wilt, Shaq, Magic. I'll even say Bird and Barkley are anomalies but as great as all them were. They weren't MJ and that's okay. Bron top 5, top 10. Great player but not the GOAT.

@@CorleoneSoup Thank god for that

@@CorleoneSouplmao keep smoking whatever you’re smoking 😂😂

@@Carvis23 it’s evident you’re not familiar with the game , the second coming of wilt & magic is literally Lebron , he encapsulated all of them tht what makes him 1 of 1 , do your research .. & secondly Howard was considered the second coming of Shaq early on b4 all the antics & dirk was for bird , like literally do your research

Those 35+ yrs olds are done winning. Curry and LeBron can't break top 5 in the standings

Thinking about what u said i agree Cuz that’s not usual and it’s like a myth that u never thought people could do gotta change the rules to stop you… hard to get better than that

He was highly public during his career, he was interviewed and all over TV and endorsing everything in adbreaks constantly. He was ever present not some recluse.

@poocrayon4588 - The commercials and endorsements were just his working. You did not see Mike doing speaking engagements, walking red carpets at big social events, doing political endorsements, or social advocacy. He did not do much of movies, tv, or music. He did not appear to be a big-time partier. He has almost no social media footprint. Saying MJ is not very public is not saying he or she is a recluse. It means that you have not seen him indulge all of the facets of fame that someone of his position might choose to partake in. And because of that, it has created some degree of mystery and intrigue about who and what he really is.

@@blackurustrikes2328 He did TV constantly - he was always interviewed on late night and day time shows like Oprah. He did Space Jam which was a big deal. MJ was very public during his career.

@poocrayon4588 - He did a few talkshows. But it was mostly just marketing. He was not trying to be a public figure or influencer. And as successful and popular as Space Jam was, it was the only feature movie he did. Mike could have done much more in media than he has done.

Shortened season 66 games Ray Allen dagger saved the Heat Kyrie 40 piece draymond susp. AD bubble shortened season

He Lost to Dallas SA GS each team had a superstar with all star role players and he get criticized for Dallas one out of the 6 losses why not criticize the other ones ???

@@thewintersoldier383if we doing that Scotty is the mine reason Mj goes to 6 championships

@@powskipowskii304 he helped but he never scored 40 and did as much as AD and Kyrie. Ever.

Yeah he did but won four with a sweep and lots of melt downs

Said he was God in gym sneakers

I agree on those era's...And with the new class I feel like they gonna be taking turns I just don't see a face of the league..."Giannis won, Jokic won"

@@Avenue77 wemby and Ant MIGHT dominate if they get the right teams around them. We’ll have to see.

Bron ran more then 2012-2016 lol …

@@Tezzzz7lol let’s hear it

How Kobe run 2000-2010 😭😭😭 Bron been the face since 07 yall gotta stop it and the shaq disrespect is disgusting you don’t kno ball chattin like that, Kobe has one mvp and two finals mvps yall gotta stop

Good call. I remember listening to my Dad talk about Jim Brown: throughout his entire career the man was never tackled! Dad loved Jim Brown.

Nope, they're not as big as the 3 he's talking about.

Ali!

Bo Jackson

Eh, after Mike got beat by Buster Douglas, I think it faded.

Yup

I don’t see nobody playing 20 seasons at this level like lebron

​@@powskipowskii304after a few years, the truth will come out as to how he keeps his youth... Meanwhile Kareem at age 39 won finals mvp averaging 26 9 and 6

He is the standard of greatness .

kobe shot 46% That alone disqualifies him from top 10. 46%.......

@@benjaminj.carrick9987how much does lebron shot from ft? His fg comes from layups so pls stop acting like lebron was ever a good shooter outside 10ft!

@@volkarach0293he just shot 41% from 3 Kobe never had a season like that

He’s right though.

Literally means nothing.

Um, that was MJ who did that.

@@sportjames23 so weren’t going to pretend that they don’t find a way to talk about Bron everyday?

@@sportjames23 I guarantee you that LeBron has made the nba more money than Jordan

Great list.🙂