The County threatened me with Jail for a Pile of dirt- what will they do when they find out what I did next. The Government is scrutinizing what I am doing. Here is a link to the Building in todays video: gardesol.com/products/copy-of...
It is sad that we are told that we are in a free country that, we are so controlled by our government, and have to find loop holes because people cannot mind their own business
You're suggesting anarchy. What the founders created was "freedom with responsibility". That's called liberty. Limited government, local government, divided powers. We seem to not have taught the following generations what this means. Why do we have manners? To show others that we respect them. I'm guessing you're not going to like or understand my comment. Which, proves my point.
@@simonthebroken9691 ever heard of anarcho-tyranny? It is when the government applies the government to those that annoy them and not to their allies. Hopefully that large brain can lift itself off the ground to read this. I don't think you're capable but we'll find out.
25 years ago we had a 12 by 24 custom built "tarp garage", 12" taller than stock with a wooden structure that my neighbor used for his boat storage and sold to us. The roof and sidewalls were one piece and layed on the ground an extra 12" for 3ft by 8inch sandbags to lay on. Same at the back. It lasted 2 years plus 14 yrs with us till a tree branch destroyed it. It never moved an inch all those years. It was on a solid gravel base. The difference is it was $3000. Back in 97! Cheers 🇨🇦
It was also likely a much thicker tarp cover back in 97' as many companies sell these now and as a small farmer who uses them for hay, you pay a lot for the mil thickness you probably just got back in 97'. Now they literally have these coming in from China with such cheap frames and cheap tarps that they will list them for "shade use only" and MN winters will simply destroy them. For smaller ones like these you can always add a "sign" and I mean literally when they take the signs down from the highway they sell them cheap but they are several mil thick and one of the best tarps around to add extra thickness to this or simply as a tarp for boats, tractors, equipment, and hay.
Put no trespassing signs up to keep them off your property the sand pile sounds like a vendetta inspectors where we are at pull the same crap but my neighbors took it to court and won
You need to put in those cross bars and put some eyelets on the post and tie them down to the equipment inside because of the wind.Another great video Stan the Man .
Stan I recommend pouring a small anchor to hold it down like a bag of concrete in each corner .i have helped 2 different friends do the shelter logic buildings that are similar and they have the 3 or 4 foot screw anchors and both friends had their sheds blow away in snow storms
Thanks Stanley for showing how messed the state and local government of Minnesota. We all don’t live in the twin cities. But we must follow their rules. A lot people from other states don’t understand is that all taxes we pay every year on our property and house and school. This does not go to local school district but it goes to the cities! I’m from north west Minnesota small community we get half per student in money as the cities dose !
So a pretty nasty storm came through a couple nights ago- A pretty big branch fell directly onto the carport. Nothing happened to it. I thought it would have ripped apart- not a shred of damage to the canopy tarp which surprised me since there was full grown trees over the road. We had to use a chainsaw to clear the road to get out
I know the feeling- we are keeping an old building structure standing for leverage for putting new up or having to redo it and keep it. Rural back road in the middle of nowhere on our farm and township road setback is still 75’ from center of the road!
Hey Stan, I would suggest getting either an old billboard tarp or a hay tarp to cover the shed. It would make the original tarp material last longer as well as hold up to the wind and snow a lot better.
I don't know if this will help in your situation but I have always been fond of the "double remodel". If you got a demolition permit and took down the house they wouldn't necessarily let you build a new house. The grandfathered structure is now gone. So, you get a permit to demolish everything but one wall and then you remodel within your footprint back to that wall. Then you get another permit. You guessed it you demolish the fourth wall and install something appropriate to match the first remodel. I would imagine that you could dig down and install a new full basement and you could build up with a second or third floor, depending on what's allowed. You might have to take the position that the second remodel was an afterthought and not a scheme to get around the grandfathering. You should probably consult local experts who can advise you what has and hasn't been approved in the past. And as always, never take a position until you know what it is.
In Pennsylvania, a remodel that is grandfathered in, as long as one wall is original, you're good to go. So, a shed "remodel" would be just fine, even if it ends up a few square feet larger! If you catch my drift. Certain states and counties have ridiculous building codes, on top of the traditional ones. I am a contractor, and I've consulted a few lawyers for different things that have happened over the years. What I've learned, from a few lawyers; their is always a loophole! Some times you just have to be creative.
Where I live on the lake they make you build your new structure over the existing structure and then you have to dismantle the old structure from within. . . Its absolutely insane but whatever.
I installed a Harbor Frt 'tent' a few years back. It was subject to lots of snow/wind load (Michigan). The frame held up fine, the tarp on the roof section was good for 2 seasons before fatally ripping near the hoop bends. If it could be found, a PVC tarp (flat bed trucker type), would be the ultimate covering for this type structure. Typical PE tarps have a short life as compared to PVC tarps. Also I think wind action, friction, wears the tarps at the hoop bends causing premature fail spots. Doubling the tarp material at these points could be helpful.
I had the exact same results but nowhere near the snow, more sun down south, but I also only got 2 maybe 2 and a half seasons of it, and the metal is still good, I added stamped steel roofing/siding and it's been perfect since then
I believe the frames would hold up to the PVC tarps even though they are heavier. Only thing I would be concerned about is they trap and retain more heat it seems. May be as big of a deal as I'm thinking it may be, but just a heads up.
@@Nightsider-xr5lx Years ago I built a covered trailer using PVC tarp. The tarp was custom sewn by a guy who specialized in boat covers. Frame was primarily welded EMT. It held up for years, including plenty of highway use. I eventually sold it, might still be on the the road. Here's a short video of the tarp trailer, I'd hoped to build and sell a few of these, I never got around to that. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LHNpy9EqVDM.html
I have a older version second hand from a neighbor who had it for 10+years and it works great for my wife’s mini van. Definitely need to anchor it down good or it will blow away. Mine ended up on the side of my house because of a couple wind storms. I now have it weighted down a lot more then what I did. Also close the doors and windows on it if you know some wind is coming and that should help keep it on the ground. I took the door off of mine to make it easier to park the van. But that also made it easier for the wind to pick it up.
So a pretty nasty storm came through a couple nights ago- A pretty big branch fell directly onto the carport. Nothing happened to it. I thought it would have ripped apart- not a shred of damage to the canopy tarp which surprised me since there was full grown trees over the road. We had to use a chainsaw to clear the road to get out
You could install some heavy duty shelving like what they use at Home Depot so that the palletized things can be stacked. It would give you even more room plus you could tie the racked shelving to the frame and the roof to help keep it anchored with some serious weight during the wind storms. The motorized equipment you put in there could also be used as anchors. I hope this experiment works well for you.
My shelterlogic frame is still good around 5 years later however the tarps were very thin and started to tear where it rubbed at the joints. It seemed as if replacement tarps were heavier mil thickness. The tarp was complete trash in 3 years but the frame I will re-purpose and tin the sides for a cover for working livestock.
I had the same experience with shelter logic got about three years out of tarps but frame has been recycled Barn metal on it and is now a wood shed for like 6 years now
We have 3 similar ones. Snow will stick to the fabric roof and and eventually stretch the fabric into the voids. We have to go out every day during snow and push up on the buildup to let it slide off.
We use these in the scouts and to help with the wind we but 2 rachet straps over the top and pegged in. If its going to be super windy we wrap them around the angles and peg them in on the inside (especially the corners). the pegs we use are about a foot and a bit in lenght and heavy duty
Do yourself a favor and add a couple of "rafters" in between each existing rafter using pipe and "end rail clamps" used in chain link fencing. End rail clamps are like a t-fitting that clamps onto the rails. This will minimize the amount that the roof tarp will sag and collect melted snow in the spring. That's what kills roofs- the weight of the snow makes sags which then collects melt water and gets worse and worse. I moved to an alpine-style (arched with a high peak) temporary shelter two years ago and haven't had any issues with snow/rain build-up on the roof.
Ahhh... Those all inclusive extended vacations courtesy of the state. I've heard the accommodations can be lacking however I do know a few people that take them often nonetheless.
So when the wind hits the tree, a large mass on the top and one trunk to blow over. We would get side or new tree next to a Redwood (Coastal) and if left alone would be 12 inches in no time. That is Heavy ! And the other would be growing from the lib of a cut off tree - looking to split off the bark and take it down. Strong fibers !
I have a canvas shed and it lasted 2 years before the snow ripped the canvas. I've taken rope and ran it lengthwise, front to back. Every 2 feet or so, to give more support. I have bought new tarps to cover it. The rope really does help reduce the stress on the canvas. The span between the frame is like 6 feet, that's isn't enough to support Wisconsin snow.
The biggest thing we've had trouble with is snow, Keep the snow off the roof and it will last . We've had ours now for 2 years ,I had some 2 x 10 lying around so I mounted them to the bottom and with stood ! f1 tornado and a wind storm the week after in 2022. I wanted to buy a shipping container ,but the city where we live said no,That would be the ticket,One of them would last a long time and they are practically indestructible.
So a pretty nasty storm came through a couple nights ago- A pretty big branch fell directly onto the carport. Nothing happened to it. I thought it would have ripped apart- not a shred of damage to the canopy tarp which surprised me since there was full grown trees over the road. We had to use a chainsaw to clear the road to get out
I have the harbor freight version of that building. I am on year 3 of my second building. I placed it under trees to block sunlight and it helped greatly. My first one only lasted a year in direct sunlight.
Ohhh my cousin bought one and the First big snow storm took it down. Seems like the Round top ones work way better also another friend bought one and the like Basket weaved the roof with rope or HD twine. That seemed to help here in Northern WI.
I had a similar building like that. One thing I discovered was the pallets and the snow plow and the stuff that was up against the wall, when the wind would blow the sides around they would bang up against what was inside and ended up wearing through the outside tarp where it was rubbing up against the edges of the equipment I had inside. I ended up buying new sides for the tent and I wrapped carpet around the sharper edges of the stuff I had inside. It lasted about 6 years before a really big storm blew it down.
Ya make sure you secure that down. We had two, the wind took the larger one and blew the cover off except one stake into the street. Somebody stopped and told us and helped me get it out of the street.
You need to put a UV protested tarp over the factory. I tuck them under and pull them taut with ratchet straps from the inside. Also anchor with barb type anchors.
@@Dirtmonkey They do. I buy a new tarp from Home Depot online about every 2 years for each building. I will be trying billboard tarps next time I need to change one.
We had two of these that we used for a camp kitchen/dining room for a week long camp we ran in the bush in Australia about 15 years ago. On the 2nd last day while we were away from camp, the wind came up and destroyed both of them. I was told that they went cartwheeling around the place. Ours were made in China and I think your tarps are slightly heavier duty than ours was, but other than that it looked identical other than the colour.
So a pretty nasty storm came through a couple nights ago- A pretty big branch fell directly onto the carport. Nothing happened to it. I thought it would have ripped apart- not a shred of damage to the canopy tarp which surprised me since there was full grown trees over the road. We had to use a chainsaw to clear the road to get out
Ok . Word of advice . We been dealing with these for decades here in Quebec Canada 🇨🇦 because of our winter's. We put them up every late fall and remove them ever spring . I and most people and 2x4 in tween the A frames but ours come every 4 foot while yours seem to look like every 8 foot so I'd add 2x4 vertically aswell . Adds to the strength and longevity of the tarp . We also have one like you do permanently for tools and stuff . We doubled up on the roofing tarp . One becomes the sacrificial tarp from those extreme hot summer day's and during the winter it helps hold up the load with snow but you absolutely need to remove any built up of snow .
Our county has building codes and permits and NOT impossible to work with. It requires planning on your part (a design with a drawing of what you want to build). Their big thing will it handle the snow load and the wind. In our county, small storage buildings less than 120 sq ft floor space (does not include roof overhang) does not require a permit. Building codes and permits are there not for your assurance the work was done right but future owners know the building will not fail.
I put up a similar Shelter Logic building. Works great. Sun will deteriorate the cover in a couple of years. Then the wind. When that happens you can order a new top or cover with a large tarp fro Northern
I love this shelter (carport) and the price is great! But I have the same question on lasting in a windy/gusty storm. I live in TN in a field with no trees in any direction for a 1/4 mile, so when storms come through I get all the wind with nothing to block it. i'm really liking the price and look of it though
So a pretty nasty storm came through a couple nights ago- A pretty big branch fell directly onto the carport. Nothing happened to it. I thought it would have ripped apart- not a shred of damage to the canopy tarp which surprised me since there was full grown trees over the road. We had to use a chainsaw to clear the road to get out
I don’t know about Minnesota, but in Colorado as long as a shed is not physically attached to the ground there is no problem. In our case or 8x12 shed is constructed on 4x6 skids. They tried to tax us for personal property until I showed that it is not secured to the ground. Then I heard you already knew about building skids. Oh well!
We live in these. And use them for livestock shelters. Make sure to pound tposts into at least the four corners. Ours have held up against 60+ mph winds.
Not sure if it would work over there, but here I know a couple of people who wanted to replace some out-buildings and were refused consent, but they were able to 'repair' the buildings already standing and, with a fair bit of additional work replacing them in stages, they still ended up with the new buildings they wanted. Many of these rules and bylaws are there for good reasons, but it seems no-one in local government will use what few brains they have and make sensible judgement calls.
The thing is a "temporary structure". Use that phrase and you'll probably find that it's allowed. I use that loophole constantly in a city. My chicken coop is an eyesore but it is a "temporary structure". 😀
Had the exact same shelter...second snow fall(12" wet snow) I had a tarp over my stuff. Those little push buttons will not stand up to snow load. I'm in Nova Scotia Canada and our snow load is very similar to yours except we get wetter snow. Good luck...they didn't call us back after several emails and calls. Let Frankie at it and bolt it together and I think it would do much better.
Hey buddy its your friend Rocco from Connecticut wow that's a very strong looking. Hopefully you don't get your balls broke about it well always enjoy your videos there appreciated thanks Rocco
Nice carport just worried about wind and snow think the company should have made the roof stronger more poles to support the roof wear patches on corners and top along the ridge and anchor screws to hold it down . But we shall see how it servives lol awesome video . And awesome property . I was wondering if someone complained to the county to get you on their radar . Keep the vids coming peaceout.
These municipalities and their code enforcement are getting ridiculous. It's a sad day being told what you can and can't do on you're own property.... Oh wait.. homeowners don't actually own their property. The corporation of the municipality does.
here is my 2 cents: Technically since we are forced to pay taxes on the land we own we don't actually own it. the government does since they get to reserve the right to take that land back if we don't pay our taxes. Its truly not "free" then in my opinion if someone else can take it from you at their discretion if you don't follow their rules.
Stanley in March 2020, went to my local Home Depot and bought five of those tents. At that point in time we were giving away hot meals to the elderly And needy families at the beginning of the Covid event. After keeping them up for 10 months with no problems a few modifications. We used 5 gallon buckets and strap them around the leg bases . Thanksgiving of 2020 we started putting these tents up for food bank distribution at daily sites. We would put the tents up at 7 AM and strike them about two in the afternoon. We made a plywood case to store all the parts as well as the tops and sides. In May we were given A portable ice box AC by the Miami Dolphins. The tents are great, we’ve use a occasional spray WD-40 on the joints. And really think the quality of their products was very good to use
As long as your not hurting people physically or the town /city property physically they shouldnt be telling you what to do with your dang PRIVATE property since they dont own it . you purchased it you do as you want ... thats why its called private not town / city property .... Court should back you up ..... Any good lawyer would tell you the same ..... PLUS city /town people shouldnt be on your private property without your strict permission aka prior notification , so if they come onto your property they are trespassing as same rule would go with a neighbor that you wouldnt want on your property ..... shoot you can put up 10 solar panels if you have the space and guess what they cant say squat same goes for Dirty or sand piles . my aunt n uncle hand sand piles on their property for years and Nobody ever came to them threatened them with jail ....
The ? Shelter looks be bit shaky but for off grid - der or homesteading would make a great covered chicken run think that there should bottom runner that wall post attached to
if u want it to last longer this is what i did . i used a 2x6 and connected the legs to it then i drilled a hole in the 2x6 and spiked it into the ground with rebar . it lasted through the winds and u don't have these ropes to trip over trying to hold it down
i had it for 4 years and then sold it . it was still going strong and was easy to transport it just picked it up and set it On a flat deck trailer. another thing i did was put round dowal wood On the bottom of the doors makes it easier to roll them up and the wind doesn't hurt them as bad
