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@victorburghi
@victorburghi Месяц назад
AFAIK, Oko was in the main set, and Jace was in the big score. Since Big Score was cut, Jace was moved to the main set.
@noahhodges7697
@noahhodges7697 Месяц назад
Came here to say this
@mariksebastianishtarthethi6998
@mariksebastianishtarthethi6998 Месяц назад
Same.
@lilithhenderson
@lilithhenderson Месяц назад
Same
@TheMorbidHobo
@TheMorbidHobo Месяц назад
But Big Score cards still existed in this set, and had their own set symbol...
@xxxexplosivoxxx1060
@xxxexplosivoxxx1060 Месяц назад
@@TheMorbidHoboim assuming that cuz the BIG cards have a wonky pull rate since theyre treated as a mix of a bonus sheet and a list card they moved jace to the real set to avoid making him too rare. Currently the BIG cards are essentially rarer than mythic and i dont think theyd want that for a face planeswalker.
@MetalPheonix
@MetalPheonix Месяц назад
Those 63 planeswalkers was a bit skewed from War of the Spark with those 36 planeswalkers. My opinion on planeswalkers (and other legendary things in general) is "if it's part of the story and is an important character/important object/location then it's fine. But too often there are extra legendary characters that don't have enough of an impact on the story to deserve a card slot.
@biopnumonic4676
@biopnumonic4676 Месяц назад
My two cents? They are leaning heavy on commander. Outside of super friends, planeswalkers don't seem to be played often in my LGS. So it gives them more design space for something that would be popular and potentially drive up sales.
@Slynch25
@Slynch25 Месяц назад
They don't get played because with multiple players, they are substantially more vulnerable to being attacked, and their abilities often struggle to keep up with 3 other players. There are a few, like the Eternal Wanderer and Teferi, Master of Time that do pretty well but planeswalker is absolutely the weakest card type in commander. Edit: Honestly I think on average they worse than even battles in commander.
@shawnpanzegraf5642
@shawnpanzegraf5642 Месяц назад
Ehh, I have the Mono Green bias. You want to make more good Mono Green ‘Walkers cheaper than 6, I’ll be happy to give them a look. Otherwise? Why print them? No one else is going to use them, unless you print super-pushed cards like Ugin. I wouldn’t mind a Walker that interacted w/ Green X Spells, but lay off the 6 CMC stuff. I’m not playing a 6 CMC Walker that isn’t frankly unbalanced, because nothing less than a outright Wincon is worth the spot in the 99, and I play my Vorinclex, MR/Kodama of the East Tree deck like it’s my job. Just not worth the vulnerability, when I’ve got a million game-ending 6 or 7 CMC bombs to choose from. Of course a good ‘Walker that can be a Commander might change that calculation, but I’m skeptical. I already have the best ‘Walker-facilitating Commander in the game
@cablefeed3738
@cablefeed3738 Месяц назад
I don't count flip walkers as planes walkers. For the same reason, I don't count Growing Rites of Itlimoc as a land
@OrcaneVault
@OrcaneVault Месяц назад
Jace was going to be part of the BIG score, they just made him part of the main set. I think the 1 planeswalker rule I think is just for standard sets. 2019 was war of the spark. I would omit that set from your stats.
@robertoso8796
@robertoso8796 Месяц назад
no statement means anything when your only task is to please shareholders. you WILL do things you said you wouldn't do and make claims we will be expected to ignore.
@jamesbourgeois1357
@jamesbourgeois1357 Месяц назад
I mean War of the Spark and the Planeswalker decks is the reason for the spike.
@Professor_Smoak
@Professor_Smoak Месяц назад
There seems to be no "happy medium" with WotC. They're either all in or all out. They leaned too hard into planeswalkers, now it's legendary creatures. That wouldn't be so bad were the legendaries unique. "Here are a ton of options for commander." Ok, but what's different about them? While I get the "too many" argument, having 3 of a character in one year thing is down to poor design/writing. It can also be applied to legendary creatures. Either way, there should be good choices in both card types. One doesn't have to suffer so the other can "thrive".
@vittoriosavian9964
@vittoriosavian9964 Месяц назад
I mean, there are a lot of unique legendaries
@ohnosmoarlulcatz
@ohnosmoarlulcatz Месяц назад
@@vittoriosavian9964 There's likely probably some bullshit with their rarity slots involved. It happens to almost all TCGs/CCGs.
@livanbard
@livanbard Месяц назад
​@@vittoriosavian9964not in all color pairings tho. take boros for example you ever get equipment dudes
@abbiemcdaniels3122
@abbiemcdaniels3122 Месяц назад
Maro meant 1 per standard set, Jace is included in OTJ as Big Score subset, so if the initial plan to release it as an epilogue set had gone through, then the trend would have stayed the same. Premium sets were not clarified in the same way, and when they revealed the Ajani flip walker they specifically said they wanted to tell the backstory of some walkers the same way they did in Origins with the gatewatch.
@TheMorbidHobo
@TheMorbidHobo Месяц назад
But big score had its own set symbol, and jace doesn't have that symbol.
@innarrixl6753
@innarrixl6753 Месяц назад
I thought there was a statement that they moved him to the main set once they realized there wasn't going to be a aftermath set due to the rarity issue.​@@TheMorbidHobo
@GhostlyGhost333
@GhostlyGhost333 Месяц назад
I say planeswalkers aren’t inherently an issue for me. Have few or many, I don’t care, so long as they actually do something powerful to warrant their mythic rarity. What I don’t like is all the legendary creatures! I know they said that they would reduce their number in core story sets, but it honestly feels like that was a lie.
@revanliviar1239
@revanliviar1239 Месяц назад
Honestly we should just expect if they can make money from it they will keep doing it
@Zo3yX
@Zo3yX Месяц назад
Keep in mind the general increase in card printing. I want to see the % of a years cards being walkers. That would lead to better talks
@amaya6091
@amaya6091 Месяц назад
If there are 5 in modern horizons 3 based off of the fact that they are transforming they might be pulling a Gatewatch where they are exploring the Backstory of characters they either want to use or that are decreased
@PicMus
@PicMus Месяц назад
I agree that one planeswalker per set may make gameplay better. Their mechanics design and lore may also benefit in terms of making them feel more meaningful or special.
@Zaelkrie
@Zaelkrie Месяц назад
Besides a few exceptions and Superfriends I don't really see many planeswalkers in EDH there are so many OP creatures now that can hit the board with immediate effect that take up deck space.
@dudemetslagroom8065
@dudemetslagroom8065 Месяц назад
I dont mind if a second planesalker shows up every now znd then. Just dont overdo it lioe some sets had a tendency to do
@hitmanstallion2697
@hitmanstallion2697 Месяц назад
I never understood the playerbases hate and disdain for planeswalkers. I started playing magic shortly after New Phyrexia during that years core set. My first mythic I pulled from a starter box was Lillianna Vess and it was the coolest thing that there was a card that acted differently than the others and had these cool abilities I could work towards as objectives. To this day I love all planeswalkers, I actively encourage their use and try to find a way to add them in any deck I play. Since the days of old wizards has printed some great removal and tools for dealing with planeswalkers. Everytime there's new walkers I see multiple "wizards wtf" posts as if people expect wizards to never print the card type again as if the card type is a 10 on the Storm Scale. Please for the sake of us who love the card type just stop, wizards is never going to stop printing the cards so please just get used to them existing and stop whining everytime a new planeswalker is printed. No they aren't going to print some crappy walker like 5mana 3pips 2 colorless +1 scry and draw, - 3 draw 2 discard 1 and -5 destroy target creature 3 starting loyalty. This is overly underpowered to the point of useless, wizards will not print trash like this unless it's a common. Planeswalkers will be powerful, we will get them every cycle if not more than 1 and it's part of the world now. You've had 10 years to get used to the card type it's time to move on.
@TubbyCusturd1234
@TubbyCusturd1234 Месяц назад
That peak in planeswalkers is probably because war of sparks which was one of the first sets, to my knowledge, to have so many planeswalkers and uncommon planeswalkers. IMO It kinda made having a planeswalker not as much fun to flood the game with planeswalkers.
@drguthrie7621
@drguthrie7621 Месяц назад
I'm fine with less planeswalker if it actually allowed more effective creativity and fun designs but I haven't been impressed by them so far
@newgamers4626
@newgamers4626 Месяц назад
I don't buy the complexity argument for not printing planeswalkers when so many cards have a ridiculous amount of text. I can't even tell what some of them do without taking them out of the sleeve 😂😂
@innarrixl6753
@innarrixl6753 Месяц назад
I thought Jace was originally for OTJ Aftermath
@jasongalloway4645
@jasongalloway4645 Месяц назад
I get the feeling that wotc is going to lean heavily into the universes beyond stuff in the near future, at least for commander (which is where the money is at currently in mtg). Thats why they've excluded the UB stuff from the less legendary creatures promise. After all of there are bevy of iconic characters from a given verse they're working with, why not print legendary cards for all of them to male as much bank as possible while theybhacw the rights to the IP?
@al6464
@al6464 Месяц назад
There was three Plainswalkers, 2 in the main set and the Oko reprint in the breaking news slot.
@RL_22
@RL_22 Месяц назад
I'm sure a wotc rep will get back directly to you on your questions and concerns asap 😅
@Turn140
@Turn140 Месяц назад
You should make an oathbreaker deck
@ErinDwight
@ErinDwight Месяц назад
These are my two cents: 1. I am so tired of hearing people complain about planeswalkers. I honestly think they're fun, interactive and add a lot of diversity to games. They all do vastly different things or help archetypes grow steadily without it depending exclusively on creatures. 2. I want more planeswalkers, at least 15 per year or so. 3. They should stop making intentionally bulk rares and mythics that do nothing and instead focus on things that provide more interaction and support to growing issues with the game.
@Itachi45481
@Itachi45481 Месяц назад
I just assumed the average is 1 and some sets have more but not overly
@Hapkins-le6xf
@Hapkins-le6xf Месяц назад
The planeswalkers spoiled for mh3 are also clearly for commander and not modern.
@albertwesker363
@albertwesker363 Месяц назад
I would say flip Planeswalkers wouldn’t really classify as Planeswalkers. I’d say the ones that are just Planeswalkers and only that.
@ZenTeT
@ZenTeT Месяц назад
i think 1 per set is good enough with planes walkers there is already way to many as is
@brentmiller9520
@brentmiller9520 Месяц назад
Still waiting for my abzan leader
@Ceyx000
@Ceyx000 Месяц назад
SSDD. Same $#!+ Different Day at WotC.
@mothersbasementmtgdnd
@mothersbasementmtgdnd Месяц назад
Idc what wizards does, remove Teferi Time Raveler from Arena and I'll be happy
@FatTaco2
@FatTaco2 Месяц назад
I'm just upset about how they handled the whole "Everyone lost their spark, but not really, but there aren't planewalker, but everyone is a planewalker" and now as a result many of my favorite characters have been chalked. But of course, Jace the Golden Boy, must remain.
@livanbard
@livanbard Месяц назад
I can go into game night upon game night without seeing a single walker being played. They are irrelevant to most players and honestly I hope battles dont come back too.
@shanekelly9311
@shanekelly9311 Месяц назад
Was this video really 20 minutes of wotc lied about 1 plqneswqlker per set. Who cares if it fits the story it fits the story
@z-super4782
@z-super4782 Месяц назад
Idk Planeswalkers are a huge part of mtg, if someone is complaining about the amount of plainswalkers there are in MTG then like ur probably playing the wrong game. I feel they should release as many of the cards they want to restricted or not.
@melephs_cap
@melephs_cap Месяц назад
I certainly wouldn't say "a huge part." They weren't always a part of the game, and they aren't that central to the core strategy of a game of Magic. Having effectively a secondary, weaker player on your team with their own health pool is more of a gimmick than a core mechanic; it's a limited design space, and planeswalker interaction and synergies among cards are pretty limited. And frankly, War of the Spark indicated that it is just not very fun to have a planeswalker-centric format, at least when the game isn't designed for it. That's not to say I think having just a single planeswalker each set makes sense either; that's centralizing in its own way.
@z-super4782
@z-super4782 Месяц назад
@@melephs_cap I mean they where designed over time yeah. And yeah they are a huge part of MTG are you kidding 😂. They literally base the main stories over them, over half of the sets are staring the next Planeswalker or something like that. Most definitely a huge part of mtg
@melephs_cap
@melephs_cap Месяц назад
@@z-super4782 Story sure, but you don't feel their importance while playing because the players are the planeswalkers who matter. I also think the planeswalkers are the weakest parts of their storytelling (even though they emphasize them so much), but that might just be me.
@z-super4782
@z-super4782 Месяц назад
@@melephs_cap anyways this is all opinionative. But I do have to say super friends decks are really fun when ur able to pull them off
@Tera_GX
@Tera_GX Месяц назад
Those War of the Spark "fake planeswalkers" don't really count and were a waste of design space.
@mega2009man
@mega2009man Месяц назад
Anyone trying to split hairs with the canceled "Aftermath" set is just enabling Wizards usual BS. It's no excuse to constantly misspeak. If you wanna add more to the fire then look at Bloomburrow that has both (fox) Jace and (otter) Ral I don't even know why they bother with the card type anymore after the massive vacation so many characters are taking to Thunder Junction alone. Balance the multiverse like shitz is more like it
@cablefeed3738
@cablefeed3738 Месяц назад
I'm pretty sure those planeswalker anamal forms are going to be the bonus sheet. Just like there was a bunch of newspaper cards that weren't standard legal in outlaws.
@casually_lurking
@casually_lurking Месяц назад
Have you seen how many words modern Legendaries have? They have Yugioh lite levels of words; planeswalkers going down is fine, trading it for Legendaries for YEARS a set is not.
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