Women don't want equal relationships 

Full Interview with Orion here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I44d6SQ3hK0.html

He basically said, "Don't be a simp."

According to data scientists women want billionaire werewolf pirates who are also doctors

The truth is that most people don't know what they want. They go for whatever their social groups say is attractive or what is socially acceptable.

Bro actually uploaded

what a spicy title

A partner should make one's life better/easier. It should benefit both sides. That's the main goal of a partnership, any gender.

Bro woke up and said I want all the smoke 🗿

I'm a psychiatrist, and I see many unhappy couples in my clinic. I'll go ahead and say that men and women (BOTH) want equal relationships, but only in terms of what value their partners can add to their lives. That's why they get together more easily in college: Both are young, poor, and naive and staying together at that time adds much value to their lives. However, we all develop taste in people as we age, and some of the most unhappy couples I know are just a mismatch in taste. They liked the taste of each other in college but hated each other after moving in together. It becomes much more challenging to justify being together as we age because we add relatively less value to the relationship than when we were young. All this talk about 'high value' men and women is applicable on a population level, but it doesn't matter on an individual level. Ultimately, it usually just boils down to personal tastes and preferences. Some women like men who aren't emotionally expressive, and likewise, some men like women who are emotionally reactive. It depends on what they feel they are most familiar with.

Can’t negotiate attraction

In conclusion: don’t select for quantum mechanic women

This is a personal philosophy and maybe informs about romantic culture in north america but I wouldn't call it a science of attraction. As someone who has been in psychology much of it is personal navel gazing, or if it's a large enough and well done enough study, then it's too nebulous to mean anything groundbreaking. If I'm going to be mean, I think you just interviewed a dude about his dating life.

I’m just here for the comments

I feel like the change in relationship when the women bears children and how that affects the responsibilities in the relationship should have been covered more to create a realistic and balanced view of WHY women want this.

Channel is in the process of being red pilled lol

Something interesting about the West is that we make it seem like everything is our decision. But thats not entirely accurate. Plenty of relationships form out of coincidence, convenience, or experiencing intense life events together, which forms long-term bonds. We like to act like men and women go to some marketplace, pick their ideal looking mate, and then go date them. That isnt at all how it works in the real world. Most relationships are things of convenience and have little to do with either person picking the other out of a selection of options

Watching this would make you think money and business power are the the only ways to have value as a person. Was hoping for a science based video

The ironic part of this video is by trying to not give women what you think they want, you are still focusing on what they want. What about you? What do you want? Do you just want a woman by being you or by not being you? Is being with a woman worth sacrificing your authenticity for? Is she being authentic too?

Be careful taking relationship advice from people who don’t have successful long term relationships

Lmao they used Leonardo DiCaprio around the part of older men wanting younger women. The guy has become 'that guy'.

Another way of being equal is to have compatible desires. A man that wants to be in the driver’s seat and a woman that wants to be in the passenger’s seat are equal. The leading role and the supportive role. They each have their own role and they put in the same amount of effort. They are a team.

5:13 I didn't expect to hear "quantum mechanics" and "esoteric spirituality" in the same sentence.

the car analogy/movie poster bit is wild bc, yea of course don't centre ur life around your partner and don't try and make yourself appealing for someone to else , but that goes both ways? a man should drive his own life of course but why shouldn't a woman too? you're both living your life side by side, why should one party overtake the life of the other, or why should one have to fit into the other's life forgetting or giving up their own?

I can safely say that most people (in terms of relationships) have no clue what they actually want, and if they are unhappy, it's largely due to their own expectations without communication or a self-inflicted misery over something about themselves.

His statement about the one paying gets more say doesn't resonate with my family or the traditional way a lot of families were organised. My dad always earned more (apart from maybe a few years when my parents earned the same), but my mum was always in charge of the finances. It was also traditional in the past for men to pass over their pay to their wives who would manage the money and then get some pocket money to go down the pub 😂

if you go out looking for relationship with a mindset borrowed from other peoples experience and choose to not be your authentic self you're setting yourself up for failure already.

This video seems more like an opinion piece and less educational. It seems out of place because I always saw this as an educational channel.

Oh I thought 50/50 was a relationship with equal effort, not necessarily wealth or status.

It's so important to focus on your needs being met and finding those that are compatible. The guys that start off out of desperation, trying to change themselves to do anything for the women he's pursuing, it often feels fake and can cause issues when someone's needs aren't being met at the end of the day

Jesus Christ of Nazareth...

Since I've learned that "attraction isn't a choice" my life has changed significantly. Don't blame a woman for her loss of interest if you don't trigger those emotional mechanisms.

All my subscribed channels are converging.

It how much of our cultural expectations are programmed by the media via repetition? It wasn’t long ago that piousness was a preferential trait, not so much today.

It is okay to say that men and women are equal but then do a 180 and get to stuff like "men should not look down to the level of women it's women that should look up to men. Sorry what? Why do supposedly intelligent people reduce relationships to a sparing match for the lead role? How about being a team? How about not making everything about your ego? Modern hyperindividualism has gone a bit too far...

Bro waited 5 months to release a video just to risk getting canceled 😂😂

I have multiple examples from my personal life of women contributing more than 50% including myself. More women are getting degrees now and are quite content to be the bread winner. I feel like none of this is actually based on real data. Please just talk to the women in you life, we are not a different species

The 1950s called. They want their stereotypes back. Funny how two guys seem to be experts on what women want. LMAO

A generation of young men have fundamentally been lied into thinking that A. Women are some sort of different species, and B. That species must be treated with kid gloves and fretted about interactions with in case you cause offence. This shouldn’t be read as being that women don’t deserve respect - just that you’re better off working yourself out and quite rightly focusing on A. What you want in a woman, and B. Being confident in what you bring to the table.

[insert meme of Morpheus holding red and blue pill here]

A spicier topic would be Marriage/divorce in the US.

on the topic of communication, i feel like it's just another "skill" that is important to learn. you're going to fumble around a lot with it, especially when you are nervous around someone new, but it is something you can improve with practice. funny enough, i've been going to therapy for a few years now for a few personal reasons, and it has very much helped me become a better conversationalist just by talking things through with the therapist. i'm sure other methods of conversation with other people that aren't therapists can help but it has been nice to kinda talk through various aspects of my life and the world around me with someone just so i can get more comfortable speaking as a whole.

Putting leo dicaprio when talking about older men wanting younger women ahahah😂

I can see a 50/50 relationship in couples who do not want children but if they do want children most of the burden is on the woman’s shoulders she is the one who sacrifices her career to get pregnant and care for the infant. Statistics also showed that woman are paid nearly as much as men before having children but then there is a sudden drop in income as they have their first child and they almost never can recover from that and the gap widens as they grow older compared to men. In this situation There is not any achievable equality and it’s fine.

There is a lot one could say about how disappointing this video is. However considering the channel, the lack of data and studies presented or cited is the biggest offender here. WIL is a channel that relies on the track record of data. This video doesn't seem to be interested in that. Instead we get vague generalizations that ultimately fall flat and add more confusion and false biases to the whole subject matter. I understand this is an interview, however it makes me sad to see the WIL mike being handed over to someone so casually. Imo this only hurts the channel's credibility.

In general I agree with this but imo, if someone follows these archetypes nearly to a T, they aren't interesting enough to be with. If you find people who aren't a copy paste, these generalities are thrown out the window and it's all useless information. Approach people with an open mind and no expectations, learning about them is the best part.

In another news, it rains sometimes

Approaching relationships as a matter of weighing up costs, benefits, and social currency is a fantastic way to make dating and connecting with others a miserable experience, you'll rarely ever see women in the real world thinking like this.

would never have expected this channel to go in this direction

This was an interesting watch. Wouldn’t say I agree with it all, but hearing it from a man’s perspective does have me reflecting on how I see relationship. Personally, I don’t want to look up to a man. Or at least, I’d want said man to equally look up at me in the same way if that were the case. But the quote that feels most right to me isn’t either sex looking up at the other but Antoine de Saint-Exupery’s quote, “Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction.” To me, it’s not about one person being similar or greater or less, but if you have the same goals and want to go in the same direction that’s were communication, growth, adoration, and fortitude lies.

Oh, I see it now. I checked older videos where there has been more well-prepared content on science, productivity, biohacking, interesting concepts and such, and that is also the reason why I subscribed to this channel. But within the last year or so is complaining about vegans, about feminism, about Depp's trial, and now this. Such downgrade in content.

my girl loves quantum mechanics lmao

This channel’s content transformes into Jordan Peterson content

People like to turn this into some kind of odd science. Women want a man they can build a life with that makes them feel safe and valued with genetic traits they find desirable. Men want a breeding partner to carry on their bloodline that feels worth investing in with desirable genetic and behavioral traits. The economic environment has changed substantially so that women no longer need be primarily focused on a male's ability to acquire resources as they have the capacity to acquire skills that allow them to have a sufficient resource pool to pursue other traits when choosing breeding partners. This reconfiguration is fairly recent and is taking time to sort itself out. Women are cognizant that men and women are not the same, but they also want to have the power how they will participate in this new resource paradigm. The biggest problems occur when men and women are taught to pursue relationships using the old resource paradigm and expectations, when a new paradigm has been created due to economic and technological advancement. So this must be sorted through until men and women create a new cultural standard for relationships that becomes more standardized with new mating rituals. In general, women have the power in this relationship by virtue of their ability to create people. If a woman can create her own resource base to work from, she can easily acquire the necessary materials to create new humans. This places her in a power position and always has because the human male has always had to work for the female for breeding to sustain the existence of the human race. You see this even in the animal kingdom where males work harder to obtain a breeding partner. This situation is often based on the ability of the male to accumulate resources and make themselves an attractive breeding partner for the female. There's just no getting around it as it's very difficult to force women into breeding situations for the long-term. They have to choose to do it, even if they choose badly. That magic power is always going to make the female very valuable in the sexual marketplace allowing them a great deal of control over their situation as the male option is simply to die off if they can't find a female breeding partner. As Orion stated, they are not often looking for equality. Why would they when they have almost all the power? And they don't even want the power men value like knowledge of quantum mechanics or what not. They want control of male purse and capacity to supply them with the necessary nest and resources to make breeding feel worthwhile and them to feel safe and valued. This is how men should think of females if they want a breeding partner. You are engaged in a negotiation and the mating rituals are the means by which you negotiate and show each other you are a valued partner with something to exchange. Don't watch too many romance movies or you'll get an insanely skewed view of your reality. Also don't be too clinical about it either or you'll be a big turnoff. Create the illusion of love, make sure you have at least friendship and loyalty, then create the family you want if you want one. If you don't, well, then don't worry about it...there are 8 billion people. No one cares if you breed or not anymore.

This video was interesting and I agree with many of the take aways (by the way, as a guy, I want a girl with an hour glass figure and millions of dollars regardless of if I do). But your content seems to be more and more actively courting a further right crowd, and makes me trust you less and less because it creates the appearance marketability is more important than honesty. All im saying is if you want me to trust you, everything you say can't be what I want to hear, because if it is im perfect and have no reason to care about what you say

I don't think they understand what romantic love means or the implications of it. I suggest to read the book „the history of romantic love“.

He's Back !

Feels like this conversation has just taken love out of the picture. It’s all transactional.

Anyone giving relationship advice should always preface by stating how many years they have been in a happy marriage. As a rule, I don't take relationship advice from anyone who hasn't been happily married for longer than I have, for the same reason I don't take financial advice from homeless people.

I _do_ find more successful women attractive. I just have no reason to assume they'd find _me_ attractive, so I wouldn't dare to ask one out, but would accept if asked out by one. Age still plays a role of course, and it's not so much past success I care about as intelligence and future potential.

Orion is talking as all contributions into a relationship are of financial nature only. But in reality, especially when children get in the mix, the term contribution includes way more aspects of life than financial only. I also noticed some narcissistic tendency there when someone is looking to find a partner that has identical interest. Intellectual stimulation is very important in a relationship but secteurs of interest are less important than IQ level perse.

Give and take is the core principle. Equality isn't.

Questionable advice from this guy. It's a transactional relationship for him, not a fulfilling one. Interesting point of view, but questionable.

at some point you got to decide, do you even want to go into such an agreement at all? Is what you get worth it to you considering what you have to give

They got the right to work for equal pay but found out they still had to do all the jobs at home

What does sexxual marketplace exactly mean?

What kind of nonsense is this?

Quantum mechanics, esoteric theory and Shakesperean literature? Just find another man...

11:25 _"i'm very much in the driver seat in my relationships...so as long as this works for you, let's drive together"_ This is not how romantic relationships work at all. Are you in love with your partner or what? If both of you are in love with each other, no one would be putting their foot down and would be eager to find common ground and make concessions. It is overlooked by everyone that is making statements about relationship dynamics: *The most important part about choices is that is has to be the right one, not that it is made by the woman or man.*

I’ve been watching your RU-vid videos on Health and Nutrition for years now. I’ve also been watching PsychHacks videos for at least the past 6 months. And now seeing a crossover interview I’m like 🤩🤩.

Anyone else surprised when this nonsense pops up in their feed?

one-sided cringe takes, I've expected more from this channel

Why you turning red pill. I used to like you for your scientific temper

Two dudes talking about what women want but seem to miss the mark by a mile and the conversation is hilariously pretty awful. Agreed with a few things but mostly kind of cringe. Lots of discussion, no talk of data and studies, just opinions passed off as fact with anecdotal experience. Careful not to let your limited experiences paint a broad picture. Disappointed in the content here

Something that has really bugged me here the whole time watching this is that not once do you ever ask WHY a woman “doesn’t want 50/50“ because really women DO, but just not in the way I think is understood. Because the thing is, to be a woman, is to have this added extra pressure your whole life to work the home, to look after the children and look after the space. It takes a huge amount of extra initiative that can only come from the man’s side to overcome this, so in order to offset this extra burden a woman has to undertake, that is why a man needs to be more wealthy, to have a better job. Because for any woman who wants to have children, they are ultimately going to have to sacrifice their own career in order to raise children. This can be, and is occasionally subverted, I know of a few couples in my life where the opposite has worked, but it is just biologically and socially so much harder for a woman to work and the man to take care of the home, even today. So yeah. Your points are very valid but there is a lot of lack of empathy for the point of view of the woman, yes, it sounds like we are lying and messing it up intentionally. But the life of a woman is hidden, and universally across the board men do not acknowledge the unpaid work women do every single day.

When men try to run a multiple regression analysis on seduction...

Be a powerful individual and make your own destiny! The rest will fall into place. When a man says that to other men, he's a misogynist. When a woman says that to other women, you go girly!

A cross over i would've never expected

that opening track is amazing, what's it called??

When I got pregnant my partner suddenly claimed that he is now the provider and protector of the family and I have to do housework. So while I did the dishes he played video games. The relationship didn't last long. I have now a little boy which I have to tell everything: Bring the dishes in the kitchen, put on your shoes... The last thing I want is a man which behaves like my little boy and never grows up.

Andrew Tate for people who think they’re smart?

umm no

Equality does not mean sameness. That is where much of this confusion is rooted and feminism plays a large part in confusing women into believing that equality is sameness. Women have erroneously assumed that ,in order to be equal to men, they have to start behaving like men, not realizing that their contributions to society can be equal without being a carbon copy of what men do and without mirroring the way men behave.

Wtf happened to this channel?

10:20 I 100% agree, tho i do think you probably could've worded it better. I was in almost in a relationship with a woman who was amazing, just absolutely perfect, but she was incompatible with what i wanted, only i hadn't figured out in my life at that point what it is that i want. So when we got together, both our lives just dropped in quality, simply because i was unsure of what it is that i want. If you aren't certain about what it is that you want then its pointless to go looking for someone because you won't find the right partner.

*reads title* Daring today, are we?

Anyone else get the feeling this guy (WIL) has had his heart broken by a lefty gal? Bro straight up on track to a Daily Wire internship.

About damn time, Joseph! 😄

When it comes to things like this, its important to think critically. So i will point out that no studies are referred to, no arguments have been made. This is merely 20 minutes of unsubstantiated claims.

Could you list the name of movies you used

TBH, I loathe the sound effects & video inserts. They are extremely distracting

Patrice O’Neal pioneered all of this.

Looking at this from a purely economic standpoint is blind. If you want a child someday, if you've birthed a child and want to do right by that child that means, as a mother, you cannot change the dynamic. You are going to be the main caregiver. That baby will be attached to you for at least the first few months if you breastfeed and preferably you'll be giving breast milk to baby for a year. I never planned to have kids before meeting my SO. I'm more educated and make more money than my husband. As soon as we decided to have a child it changed everything. The biology of being pregnant and having a child forces you into a different state of mind as a woman. I think if women know they want children they gotta plan and think differently. Most likely you're the one who can smell the trash and have the nesting instinct and the sensitivity to little noises and whimpers. Sure, not every woman, but many of us exist because our mother's mother could hear small whimpers and smell rot and worried about things like feeding and cleaning and everything that is house management. My SO and I are the odd ones. We both wfh, we both take care of the baby. SO likes to cook. I make more money (for now, I'm getting pigeonholed). I take on more of the baby responsibilities. We thought he'd be the say at home dad and I'd continue my career. Nope, Culture said no! As soon as my SO became a dad like 4 different departments at his work reached out to train him up into better positions. I haven't had a raise in 3 years. It's incredible to me. I don't know how there are even questions about this. My SO and I came into it the "50/50", had no clue. We're still closer to 50/50 than a lot of couples and we're still weird. We're aware our communication styles are very different, but it's made communication extremely important. Which is like the video says, the reason our relationship works.

Im struggling with his concept of 'investment' and 50/50 being about who pays ???

THANK YOU ORION🫵🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️

What do women want? Why not just ask women? Naah, we've got PhD in yapping and we'll speculate about this ourselves 😂😂

What I've learned More like What I want to get cancelled for

The principles that uphold relationships are so pure and are based on sacrifice and servitude. Such teachings are rarely found in regular media... Mostly in religion, such as Christianity. If you aren't religious, there are very few other times when one can be taught to make sacifices and maintain humility. In fact, I find the principles of upholding a healthy relationship can be found in leadership seminars and books: Find your purpose, chase your dreams relentlessly, never think of yourself, seek to serve others, put others first and bring them up with you, seek advice from experts, and NEVER GIVE UP.

Tip: someone write a short summary of key details. (In exchange, we can let the video run in the background so you get money)

Per usual two men talking about what women want. 🤣

For s science focused channel i found this video both surprising, and disappointing. Sad to see you elevate someone selling red pills.