Woofer Wednesday, Motors! Designs and How They Work! 

I love how you have a Mr.Rodgers entrance with mellow musical background. It’s awesome lol especially on topic of high powered car audio equipment. Definitely makes you a whole original of your own

Well done Ed! You covered stuff that most of us don’t even consider when buying subs and you help us all make more informed decisions.

My favorite subwoofer/motor is the Peerless by Tymphany STW-350F-188PR01-04 15"

Fi sp4 are my favorite LOOKING motor assemblys. I mean, c'mon. Those things are gorgeous.

Favorite motor for me has to be the TC sounds from the late 90s. I have an Audiomobile mass 2012 made in 1999. Still the best sounding sub I've ever heard.

I know this is an older video and probably nothing to do with this subject, but we now have people out there running single 8" and 6 1/2 inch subs in special built enclosures hitting 160+ DBs When you see some guys dropping thousand of dollars on multiple much larger subwoofers barely hitting 150"s. But I'm aware of the mechanics more now than I did when I was younger and this subject added to my love of installs. The more you know the more you grow :)

So my favorite motor is weird; being a fan boy of Zeds amps early in my car audio journey, I fell in love with a motor from Lanzar shortly after. In the early 2000’s before the opti’s sub line became a decent budget gem, I came across their HRWDC line. I still use the subs today, and to me, they’ve stood the test of time and have yet to disappoint in all the demos I’ve given throughout the years, and more recently, gave me solid results in the OSSPLC paired up with an old fosgate amp. But anyways, I Appreciate the time and effort you put into your content. Looking foreword to the next one!!

thanks for making these videos, there just isn't enough technical videos out there. between this channel and emf i learn so much.

My favorite motors of all time are the kicker solo x, mtx 9500 and of coarse the Orion hcca takes the cake,I also love the look of the r e audio xxx

Gotta agree with the DDZ as well as the RE Audio XXX and if it counts the old school PG Pysclone

Orion HCCA 124, or 122 amazing excursion and power handling , keep up with the great videos, they are so good I don’t need a goodie bag

Keep the tech stuff coming, never hurts to learn more. Good job man!

My favorite motor was the T3 TSNS. It was a beast.

The best motor I ever owned I just reconed today is a Resilient Sounds Onyx series. 80+ pounds of motor is just insane to me having grown up in the 80s and 90s I kinda got to witness the evolution of modern subwoofers. I've owned Orion HCCA subs and the Onyx is bigger. It's very impressive.

Deafbonce sa312 has a massive motor and has no pole vent, 3in coil and 2800rms I run a single deafbonce sa312 d1 at.5ohm on my deafbonce 4k daily, takes every bit of it and I have never once smelled any coil smells... Ive been thinking of getting another one

One of my favorite motors to look at is By SMD that design is just crazy.

SP4 V1 is one of my favorites. I got the last machined V1 motor! This series is great by the way

My two favorite woofers are TC Sounds Lms 18 and RE Audio XXX. Both are amazing!!!

How about the pros and cons of copper versus aluminum voice coil? Any other materials used for coils like platinum?

My Favorate motor design and coil design is JBL GTI MK2 subwoofers Differential Drive Design. You should do a tech time on that design. It’s actually kinda cool from photos, but not many people understand it’s design and operation and why they choose dual 6ohms for the design.

You explained very well plus the snippet with Jacob was simple to understand it all.

Keep up the great work Ed . It was really nice meeting you in person at SEMA . I really appreciate you taking time to take a picture with me and Steve Meade. If your going to CES and need a camera guy message me I’m going to be there

Mr Lester, Thank you!! Ive watched your old Subwoofer recone video tons of times while learning how to build subs for myself and my buddies. Tons of knowledge that has helped me out tremendously.....thank you. This video was another winner in the subwoofer builder encyclopedia. Look forward to future "Woofer Wednesdays" Thanx Again

Learned some good info and I have a Sundown Xv2 so that helped understand it more.

My favorite are the DC Audio Neo Elite 4" coil Neo motors. Some honorable mentions are the M1 Level 5 3" coil motors and the Sundown Team Ferrite motors.

I like the atomic 856 motor

This video reminded me of a school lecture and almost put me to sleep. I liked it

Great job Ed

Absolute stellar topic man! No one else describes these aspects of subwoofer design. Two thumbs up!

A gift? You mean other than your pretty self and vast experience and knowledge? Wow , that's a deal. My fave motor ...I like them all😎 And thank you for looking at this😘. I have a far better understanding than I did, now it's time to do some learning.

Hello, enjoyed your video. Really appreciated your explanations and thought they were well done. I have been looking at the trw 17 rotary subwoofer and thinking about their use of the stationary motor and “helicopter” style mechanics to move the blades. I have also been looking at various “voice coil linear motors” made for motion of things other than speakers. IMO it would be interesting to build a rotary subwoofer using a solid mounted coil on the base and “spin” the magnet on the shaft and use the air gap in place of a ball bearing “swash plate” arrangement. Hence why I found your magnetics video informative. Managing a spinning magnet and coil gap certainly presents some new challenges but some opportunities as well. It would be attractive to build a rotary subwoofer for less than 23000$. Cheers, great video. EE Duane in Canada.

I love the series man you have a very good way of explaining things in good detail but not too much to lose the viewer. I hope that you keep the intro the Mister Rogers theme is really cool an unique. Another great video 👌

Oh, you took me back to 1994 with the Aura Neo Woofers.

Fi BTL-neo, SP4 v2 and Huthcinson ETA. You can't mistake the SP4 for anything else that I've seen

My favorit motor is the rockford fosgate t2 12. Not the first silver one but the murdered out all black model. I honestly had no idea there was so much involved with sub motors.

Dude ain't never just hit us wit tha " it's a good day in the neighborhood entrance " ..... Where to Charlie.

Best woofer Wednesday yet. Very informative

I feel like I just watched Mr. Rogers neighborhood for bass heads. I liked it.

Excellent presentation 👍 Edwin couldn't have said it better !!

Okay I guess my Blurb about the MR. Rodgers of Audio Caught on. :-) RIGHT ON!!!!!!

I keep hearing you say that the Stroker wasnt made for high excursion. This is not right!! Back in those times, that is exactly what that woofer was made for!!! It of course may not seem like that these days, but i was installing those things back in the 90's and they were blowing our minds and our windows!!!! Im 46 years young, been in the game since the mid 80;s when i was 15 years old just so you know my background. Great video, of course!!!! I love the way your mind works, i wish i had your ability to see things the way you explain them!!!

Great video brother very well explained! It funny speaking to some of the older competitors from the 90’s, they used to glue weights under the dust caps to increase motor force. Not sure that actually worked but it was cool to hear the stories how guys tried to get more DB’s that way.

Huchinson neo looks crazy

Awesome Show 👌❤️

Great video. Not many like this. This is more school and I love it.

My favorite motor atm is on my DC audio m3 8 D2.

powersoft m-force. have you seen that thing?! moving magnet! two crazy coils power a 32” driver. crazy tech. i would love more details on this monster

As far as looks go I'd have to say Soundstream xxx18, Sundown Team V1 motor, SMD double stack assembly & The Hutchinson Audio motors look amazing

I had a set of 6 inch cerwin vegas speakers with 2 chrome tweeters in the middle of them and they had massive magnets on them.they were car audio speakers they sounded great but I put it much power into them when I was a kid

Sundown nightshade is my favorite

My favorite woofer motor so far is deaf bonce dbsa4 series however I absolutely love Hutchinson car audio neo motors they look phenomenal

Great in depth view into subwoofer motors. Keep the series going, I love information. I also love sundown audio equipment and thier whole team is awesome also. Bass on brotha and keep the vids coming!!!!

Do you think you could go more in-depth on the Fi Audio subs and the pros and cons to their motor structure?

Thanks for the info! I really enjoy these technical videos

Thanks for sharing

Fi.. sp4... love the design.. looks and performance

Great video sir very educational keep up the good work 👍 👍

I love the fi omega and the btl neos the dear bonce db subs r nice

Great vid, and exactly the type of vids I want to see just getting into subwoofer reduilding/building/experiments lol :) a voice coil vid would be great, ie: difference between copper alum, winding count, flat vs round, wire gauge, etc.

I love incriminator audios subwoofer designs. All of their subs look amazing. I’ve owned a lethal injection 12” and regret selling all of the time. So much so that I’ve been thinking of ordering another lethal injection or a Death Row. I just hate waiting on custom built subs as I’m very impatient 😂. That Lethal injection LOVED the lows.

Subs have changed so much since my first system!

Yes!! I love these tech videos. I would love for you to do this with thiel specs. That may be spelled wrong

The sundown audio Ns4....looks like a tall holed cylinder i just looks cool to me

The original Stroker motor like you mentioned, as well as another “pancake” that always stuck out to me was the PPI Flat Piston Pros. After that it was the earlier Digital Designs motors(A,B,C versions), they weren’t anything substantially out of the norm but they just looked really good to me, just clean polished ferrite and chrome. I seem to remember they used to have one supposed “SQ” orientated series, the 9100 line, that had a really unique looking motor structure as well.

I love my Sundown Audio zv2'S......older motors i know. But they are BADASS and super strong.

Love the tech stuff! Another great Woofer Wednesday!

3HP... works for me 👍😎 T.I. basket preferably... eats power 🔋 and puts it out

My favorite motor is the Orion hcca spl Its a beast! My second is the 4" coil 600oz motor you can buy on the Lord of bass. Never heard it but it looks huge and its also under $800 to buy. I'm one day going to by one.

You briefly spoke about motors like 4 years ago when you made a video about voice coils, I believe you went over adire audio motor and reg motor. It’s been years ago though

My two favorite motors are Orion hcca motors there amazing they handle tons of power and the design is just beefy goodness. Second are kicker motor I’m sure people like what kicker. Well kicker has some amazing tech with the cooling of the Vc with holes around the tape and hole under the cone into the former for double cooling it’s genius

Team sundown

Wow I just thought I knew about motors🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣this guy is on a sub-genius level very well explained sir

Great video learned a lot keep up the great work and great videos

What’s up can you do a video on how to recenter the pole ring on the subwoofer motor thanks

I think my Favorite Motor design was the TC Sounds LMS Ultra. Favorite motor by aesthetics? Going to have to agree with you on the Z series Neo setup.

I've been a big fan of the death penalty motors throughout the years from the solid slug motors to the star motors

My favorite motor out of any subwoofer I own would be my Soundstream SS10 (version 1) All time favorite motor assemblies I'd give credit to RE Audio. EMF Audio is on my list as well with the Ermagerd, but I favor the V1 over the V2. The square V2 motor looks like it should be on a square MTX Jackhammer.

Thanks

I like the Focal Utopia 27wx

I ran atomics when I was younger. Quite speaker 40,000 watt at Burst. Was not to much to put out power like this. Now days you can do it. I’m known for running one speaker. You don’t need a pair just takes up airspace. Ed I know you know what you’re doing. Smaller box more power this is how you tweak it to make it perform. Personally I like the horns box design. With a wedge at one end. Have to ask do you know what the COM is? Most people don’t have a clue what that even is.

tks

Elemental designs 13av.2 motor great and good to look at

Holees grate look

DeafBonce sa DB4 18s. Hands down my favorite subwoofer and motor. 7k per subwoofer on music. No issues.

Atomic. 40,000 W three second burst. Not too many speakers will do this.

I really like the deaf bonce db4 motors, I think it’s a unique design. Also they’re neo motors.

It's basic but the Boston acoustic g5 one of my favorite woofers(excuse me..subwoofer)...

great info !! i enjoyed it keep it coming 👍👍👍

7ins coil sound good

By fare one of the best videos 👍👍

Dc level 6 18 motors ftw 💯

Thanks for the knowledge!

Would be awesome if you could find an Audiobahn AW1805Q to review and test. I've only seen photos and the sub looks really kool. But I wonder if its just a kool looking 18" subwoofer or if it is as bad azz as it looks.

Hi i need tu know whats the gap between pole and top plate for 4 layer coil

Would it be possible to make a motor with a simple ferrite ring and pole with the north/South in a vertical axis, with a manageably small gap? I've been thinking about making a large sub with the goal of high excursion, not worried about sound quality. I would outsource the soft parts and coil but build the basket and motor myself. I've also thought about using a conventional brushless electric motor, with an offset crankshaft connected to a diaphragm by a con rod. Similar to an engine, but with a diaphragm instead of a piston. I don't think it could be used for music, but at a set frequency it could move an enormous amount of air due to the efficiency of a brushless rotating motor.

Fi BTL UFO motors I've always wanted a pair.

Excellent good Woofer Wednesday and don't forget about Chicken Enchiladas Wednesday

Awsome, this helped, wanting to build some subs, experimenting with a few different parts, and this helped me understand a little better, if you have a couple Xtra stroker motors lying around how much would you sell em for?

The crazy part is I didn't know that sundown factory as down the street until this video

Awesome video as usual but I am curious about the difference (advantage vs disadvantage) in VC sizes like some are 2" and I've seen some in home stereos systems as big as 8"