I would never go back. It’s a real estate company masquerading as a publishing company masquerading as a religion. Thanks to you both for the videos. I enjoy them.
They have destroyed too many lives to ever be forgiven.Anyone who would consider going back must be crazy.Once bitten,twice shy. Horrible Cult.🏴🇬🇧
If they have a jubilee year and end disfellowshipping, a fear that keeps everyone in, the question should be not how many would come back but rather how many would leave ?? What good does it do to all those who committed suicide because of disfellowshipping and refusing blood !??
They have to do this. It's about time. They're looking at the Mormon business model and seeing how successful it is. There's no doubt that Uncle Tony didn't want all these changes. I hope my JW mom lives long enough to see these changes.
@@GerardoHernandez-cv2hm there is only ONE name under heaven of which we are saved and that is by our faith in Jesus or Ephesians 2:8-9 and Galatians 2:16 is just made up nonsense that no one ever reads.
Thank you, Ali and Sheryl! I think it’s pretty clear that watchtower is making changes to policies to keep as many in the org as possible. I was not surprised with the information you shared from Reddit. I think we’re all waiting to see what’s next with the watchtower. With all the lawsuits coming down upon them they need to make changes to avoid more lawsuits, the blood issue being a big one, and all the trauma to children. I would never go back!!!
Jesus is not the way because he agrees with his dad, which he is insisting on having him gruesomely and brutally tortured and murdered. Pretty stupid and immoral if you ask me.
Two things to say to that number one the greatest tool of manipulation is the power of interpretation if you didn't know Muslims Jews and Christians all worship the same God the god of Abraham now you do you can look it up but if they all worship the same God how is it that they have so many different variations of it the answer is that it was based on interpretations and interpretations are another form of manipulation and it is also designed to get the person who reads it to be just like a girl inside of an abusive relationship that's why the story tells us that we were sinners and we needed Jesus to die for us. Sorry did not Jesus off his but I do have done things that people consider miracles or healed many people and I understand the message that was behind what was said I am I am it means that we are each and every single one of us and that is actuallybacked by science. Now if I were to clean I was God you were to tell me to a cross and I was to scream out the same words Jesus did Elohim Elohim God God why have you forsaken me look it up you can Google the exact verses and chapters I wouldn't expect anyone to keep worshiping me over the next thousand years and especially not to kill in my name. When you get back what religion takes from you which is your Divine birthright then you no longer need the thought of Jesus as your savior but maybe someday you can find the real man named yeshua to be your equal and your friend.
@@angellkiller9773 Jesus did die for us so that our sin, our wage, our crime that makes us guilty before God can be forgiven so that the final judgment can be declared that we are free to walk and not be punished for that crime. We are free to claim that free gift (grace) just by asking for it and it is free so that we don't have to buy it or earn it. Too many religions teach that God demands that we work towards our goal to be saved and that is non-biblical.
Hello Ali....I've missed you so much. You are my SHERO. I brag about you ALL the time. I LOVE and APPREICATE you and your MOM so much. I don't think it's about just "MONEY" with them, I think it's MAINLY about "POWER and CONTROL". Thank you very much for ALL that you do.
How can this woman take the word of a total stranger as fact. This only shows she has poor judgment. She forgets that early Cristians had a governing body. All organizations, Cristian or not have one or several boards of directors. Certainly they have different names. It’s not a wonder she failed to mention her new religion. Of course not, she said freedom from Christianity. This is because she refuses anything Biblical, correct or not. Only because a shoe doesn’t fit your foot, it doesn’t mean it’s not a shoe. Too many people criticize the organization because they don’t report chid abuse. For one, no one knows if they did or not as that is a private issue. Second of all, they are criticized because they think they are judges. However, people want them to judge an accused. It is up to the parents to inform the authorities, and let them decide as this is not just a moral issue, but a legal one. If that person is found guilty by first the law, then the organization can now do its moral part. No one in the organization has the power to just know if a person is guilty or not. After all, as known, they are not Jesus. People want them to be like Jesus, mind readers, and judges when it comes to an accused. However, don’t want them to do anything about a (confessed) adulterer or fornicator. I said confessed because even at that, they do not investigate. Unless it’s already out in the open. Too many things get twisted by disgruntle X JWs because they didn’t get their way. Most of them know this is true. This is why they don’t join an other religion once they are kicked out.
@@GerardoHernandez-cv2hm *"How can this woman take the word of a total stranger as fact."* This is a hilarious statement, coming from a JW. Example: *"early Cristians had a governing body."* Prove it. Where in the Bible does it mention "governing body"? The "Governing Body" is a WT concept, not a biblical concept. It's also a corporate term, NOT a Biblical term. *"Too many people criticize the organization because they don’t report child abuse."* You can tell a lot about a person by what makes them angry, Obviously, child abuse in WT doesn't make you angry, Gerardo. That says everything about YOU, not the people you're attacking.
Good morning friends. WT is running scared, desperate to stop the members from leaving. I agree with you and personally would never consider returning. They still have no true love, aren’t transparent & haven’t acknowledged the truth about the disgusting practices of protecting pedophiles. Vs protecting children . Their motives for any changes are not from humility, or examining the Bible & acknowledging the error of their ways. I pray people will continue to wake up & embrace true Christian freedom. Thank you for sharing . ❤😊xoxo
@@mrm8850 I have come to believe through the years, that people are running scared. I think that churches, guys in “power”, business-“faiths”, have taken the GOOD News of Christ which is simple and extremely LOVING, and turned it into fear. Fear is what people FEAR: Hell. Destruction. Death. But if it’s for everyone ELSE, then the fear turns to a kind of macabre excitement, like, “Oof! Just made it!”(like jumping over a fire pit). Then sensations turn to an elite mentality of judgement with testimonies that make an audience swoon. As churches of Christians and Kingdom Halls of bullies and con men and other “idealistic” cults and sects, we have done horrendous things to the Gospel, to the GOOD News of God and have played on marketable salesmanship sleeze: “Humans are weak and scared little creatures, let’s play up fear-mongering (much as media does), let’s be powerful like parents for their child-like brains and punish them with hell or hades, but first give them FREE stuff like Bible studies, love and smiles before we turn and devour them...”-I’m sorry to say this, because I haven’t trusted since leaving JWs, but the more I study, the more I learn of Business and Bibles, the more I’m convinced that we’re doing it all wrong. Thank you for hearing.
Yes Ali’s mom. When we go to Christ after leaving WT, I think it is natural to ask ourselves why we did not see the red flags and leave sooner? It was 61 years for you, and 40 years for myself, and so many years for Ali. I’m not sure about you both, but I only left when I saw WT for what is was clearly, got spiritually desperate( realized how poor in spirit I was), then quickly left after I found the pearl of high value.(The real Father, the real Christ, and the real kingdom).
Re: WT's "Jubilee" for DF ones: Will WT also look for ways to undo all the irreparable damage their unscriptural policies did to the lives of JW's as a result? I didn't think so.
Next it will be smoking is okay. Thank you both so much. I am 74 years old and wrote my letter of disassociation only two years ago. I greatly enjoy your videos.
@@patriciapitt4228. My dad and my best friend smoked! Stopped 14-20 years ago! They both came down with stage 4 Lung cancer . Both died a horrible death! That’s why the watchtower would rather you keep yourself in better health! They care about good health! Also, my husband, an Elder and md surgeon performed many serious operations without the use of blood! He taught bloodless surgery as chief of staff in two different hospitals
Thanks for this. I wouldn't even consider it, I cannot stand "no apologies needed". Who's the apostate now??? They are identifying themselves as the Evil Slave. Lies, lies lies. Whose your daddy?
About the value of apologies, even though they’re needed, try dropping a valuable object; after it breaks apologize to it… Did it go back to how it was before you dropped it? No? So what’s the value of your apology?!
@@deborahsellars4974 And, by the way, I think that apologies are held in high social esteem for the wrong reason; they tend to help the image of those offering them than accomplishing anything beneficial to the recipient. Just saying… I still offer them whenever I’ve realized not being totally aware of others in my surroundings, but it’s a question of societally accepted norms of manners, rather than any sort of harm or damage…
@@greyberet1that’s a great analogy! Apologizing would mean they were wrong in some way, or “mistaken”, and they’ll never admit to that. Great comment. If I dropped a glass vase and said, “Oh I’m sorry!” Thats like them saying “So sorry”-it would not put back the pieces of family and life. So actually, I’d tell them to take their apology and stick it...because what they did, was no accident.
To hear my JW mother say that she loves me when she has been open about not having a daughter for 40 years; it would not be genuine love and she is so damaged, she doesn't own her own mind. Recovery from this Cult, takes years and the damage never leaves us completely. I would never want to go back to that! I'm a rebel and I enjoy being one. I engage in positive disruption and a such I am a bad fit for this cult, however much it changes, and I am glad that I am.
Or being DF’d… my brother was DF’d at 16, for “lying “ about smoking weed one time. His whole life was separated from mom and dad, because of it. They were so unkind to him, so they could be “loyal “ to Jehovah! On my dad’s death bed, I asked him if it was worth it ( as he died alone with no support from the congregation… although he had been an elder for a lot of years)… and he said, no. I watched my family be torn apart from their belief system. Crazy how they think they can make it all go away without any consequences! That and the blood issue have lost more lives to suicide and needless deaths for ones who could have lived!!! Wow, absolute insanity
The Governing Body will see consequences. These people have killed and hurt so many with their cruel and unusual doctrines and punishments and isolation, that people will not let them just get away. There are probably hiding tunnels under all that Real Estate they’ve bought.
I’ve been disfellowshipped for years and my family and friends have shunned me completely. Reinstate me and I’ll write a letter of disassociation. I never ever want to be recognized as one ever again!
No matter what changes they make, I will never go back. They do not have the true Jesus. As much as I would love to have my mother back in my life again, I can't give up my Jesus. I choose Him over my mother.
I’d love to have my JW bro back but I wouldn’t go to a KH or get involved in his religion ever again. Same with me: I would never give up my Lord, Jesus. I’ve come too far.
Totally agree with your take on that! I would never go back for so many reasons. 1st and foremost, they teach a false gospel. They sideline Jesus and there is no Holy Spirit working there. Without the work of sanctification within believers, they will never rid themselves of the major sin struggles that continue to be hidden behind closed doors in so many households of JWs.
You will be saved and safe as China has a lot of tea and most everything you pick up is made in China so I'll go with you and on that slow boat 🛥 to China, sure Many Thanks for putting this up, only been around them for 65 years, but great never believed half of what they said, Cheers 🥂 all
How about no. Is no ok? The stories I could share...I just found your channel today. I'm so glad I did. There are a lot of ex jw channels that I just can't watch because the people seem...a little crazy? You guys are intelligent and articulate and a pleasure to listen to. Cheers from WV USA!
We have almost an identical story; born & raised (3rd generation) jw, was DF'd in May 2018 (after 42 years of service and dedication) for moving out from my husbands and my home due to abuse. Thank you for posting this. I am now following- and a friend! Take care. ❤
Praise the Lord! It is so good to see that someone has awakened and not fallen into the enemy's trap of falling away from the hope of Christ that is available when you are not decieved by false teachings! May the True Lord Jesus strengthen and lead you. Que el Senor les bendiga!
Sounds 100 percent true. I will never go back to them. I agree about Tony being against it. The one thing I learned from the many years I was in was how cults gets you believing things that are impossible to be true
The older lady said why go back to the Hebrew scriptures. The Greek scriptures are a replay of the Hebrew scriptures. Everything that our Messiah quoted was from the Hebrew scriptures. And we also left the cult and never looked back. I had a brother die at eleven years of age due to the cult's no blood rule back in the early 70's. A few years later my mother took her life. Good for you to lovely ladies for waking up, I's not an easy thing to do as I found out after we left. You lose all your family friends but trust me, life does get better and you make new friends who end up being like your family. Time does heal. Nice video of the both of you. Wishing you two and all the others the best.
Jesus will give justice to your brother and Mother, and to you and us all. Seek His Kingdom and His justice. Wait on Him, not on evil manipulating beasts. I don't even want to call them men.👍
Hello Ally 😊 We missed you and your mama❤ If this would be announced, I would fell of the chair😂 Going back to KH😮 Hell no!!! I don't need fake friends and full of themselves elders! Like you said Ally, I would rather be in the wilderness and talk 🦜🐵🦝🐼 to loving animals ❤
If I was instantly reinstated as if nothing (oh jolly) ever happened, I’d never go back. I would simply wait for my JW brother to love me, his sister. No more “Apostate” scarlet letter. But I would sue the WT for all and everyone I lost. Would they restore my family? My husband? My home? Would they apologize? Would they beg my forgiveness for hurting me for saying I’d save my children if they needed a blood transfusion? Would they make-up somehow to the little children who sat isolated and crying outside of classes celebration a birthday or Xmas? I’d never go back to that cave where birds can’t sing but all bats hang upside down in the dark and screech. That’s just me. I think other people would absolutely demand Justice. Look what they have DONE!
I am an Italian Jehovah's Witness. And I am looking for reasons and ways to make leaving the watchtower less burdensome for my family. You know it is difficult. God give me courage😢
I WOULD NEVER EVER GO BAACK! I'M FINALLY AT A POINT WERE IM MENTALLY, EMOTIONALLY AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH GOOD. IT MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH THAT ALL THE DEATH, PAIN,FAMILY DESTRUCTION ETC....WAS LITERALLY ALL FOR NOTHING AND THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE. IF THIS HAPPENS...IN 50 YEARS EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE ETC....JWs WILL NOT BELIEVE HOW THE CULT IS NOW AND IN THE PAST. LOVE BOTHOF YOUR CHANNELS.
My heart goes out to you, my dear sisters, for enduring such a difficult experience. While my own journey within the organization has been somewhat different, I find myself at a point of distancing, yet still observing and learning from a distance. In recent weeks, I've undergone significant shifts in my beliefs, almost as if I've "awoken" to a new understanding. I've come to realize that Jesus' kingship isn't in the past, and 1914 isn't the pivotal year as once believed. Instead, I see His kingship as a future reality. There are many teachings of the organization that I find myself at odds with, prompting me to delve deeper into the Scriptures, seeking guidance from God Himself. Despite this, I must acknowledge the role they played in grounding me in the truth about Jehovah and Jesus. They have contributed to the foundation of my faith, for which I'm truly grateful. My love for Jehovah burns fervently within me, and I pray that you, dear sisters, will continue to hold onto that love and follow Jesus above all else, even if it means distancing yourselves from the organization.
I would Never go back don't know how I could deal with family some who have shunned for over 40years I forgive but would always wonder what would it take for them to do it again?? Trust would be Gone
I came to know J.W in 1989 I was always sitting on fence leaving going back to it most of the time. I made complete decision in November 2021, I made known to them in January 2022 because they found out i was celebrating Christmas because elders seen on Facebook. They phoned me to say they have to call to have chat with yI said no I have finished for good. I have never looked back since. I feel more relaxed and happier.
Good job ladies. It's always good to separate the words of Jesus from those who want to control people and take their money. God bless you all. Let's hang on to the promises Jesus made.🤗
Hi Ali and Mum so good to see you and hear latest news . From Australia left in 2020 born in . Would never ever ever go back . The damage done is irreparable. Still have my faith . Much love and blessings to you both 🙏🙏🙏🌹🌻♥️♥️
Thankyou for your kind and uncensored discussion on why and how leaving the organisation is so painful and 😢😢sad as it is people are still being shunned.my best friend of many yrs shunned me recently after my one yr of absence.sawvherbon a bus sat three feet away for half HR.no recognition.i wanted a smile or something I'm still very nieve
ladies, amazing video. just put it out there without gimmicks, fancy recording devices, intros or graphics, just raw feelings and honest feedback of experience and learning. loved this. WT is trying to apply make-up to the pig to make it look better, but it is still a pig.
Thank you george. You've got us pegged correctly . No frills. No editing. Just speaking from our hearts and empathize with other Who are putting their lives back together.
The Holy Spirit has given me a testimony of my salvation. And I could never return to a manipulative ,deceitful organization run by satan. I have true freedom in Christ and a clear conscience!! Hallelujah, Amen!!
Most interesting news, thanks. We'll have to wait and see. I'd never go back. Their decisions are not based on scripture but on what they think will solve problems. They are so busy building they don't have time to examine the scriptures properly which is why their policies are so bad. Love to you both.
Yes. Their latest success is their Bible Museum. They own actual Suburbs now and tech buildings, movie studio, gift shops, the Real Estate grows. Many investments and stock interests, they’re so busy they don’t know anything about Armageddon anymore. They forgot Paradise to put up a parking lot...
8:08 I guess WT really believes that they are spiritual Israel. Boy oh boy, can you imagine the Matt.7:23 moment for WT and JW’s, unless they wake up and repent!
I can see all this backfiring on them because so many people are going to be so mad and just walk away I hope this happens keep up the great work you two beautiful angels you really are
Ali and mum - beautiful souls - thank you for sharing. Of course they are rebranding. The blood policy reversal would be huge. Many THINKING JW’s will leave. Those who have lost loved ones to this policy will be gutted. What a waste of emotional trauma. The thing is when people leave ( I pray for these ones every day) they can become atheists or agnostics, and I don’t blame them. I wish they knew what a relationship with Christ is all about. The sheer joy and freedom.
I feel exactly the same way you do about all of this. Thank you for making this video. If the governing body decides to reinstate everyone, I really look forward to that….then shunning all of those friends and family that cut me out of their lives so abruptly when I didn’t share all of their beliefs any more. It will be an interesting turn of events when I decide they mean nothing. I lost my entire world when I was df’d since I was born in and left when I was 25. Nope! No way! I can see what the organization is now. Haughty, greedy, slanderous bunch.
Thank you Sisters. Love the way you reported this. "Going back" . . . wrong question; the only way forward is joining our dear Lord Jesus. God bless to both of you.
Thank you and I so agree ! So happy for you two. The truth so sets you free! The diminishing of the Christ and his authority is why I left (primarily). The the reality is we should have been his Witnesses not his Father ! Jesus himself said this at Acts 1: 8 . This is the most important reason I left and yes there are many more . So after 55 years as one of JW’s and serving at Bethel I am now free and I can promote the Christ as the way the truth and the life, I am his Witness now to the praise and glory or his Father. Jehovah gave everything to his son and we must honor him and glorify him. I will bend my knee to the my lord and savior Christ and truly kiss the son and for the first time in my life stop judging anyone and loving everyone. Dignifying the lives of everyone we come in contact with as Jesus would have. It has been and will always be about Jesus. I’m sorry for not recognizing this truth for so long. Jehovah wants the focus to be on his son and the Bible is about his son the revealing of him the sacred secret! I now am one of “Christs Witnesses” and will remain as such till I join him as part of the Bride of Christ to the praise and honor of his Father Jehovah God. No one comes to the Father accept through Christ!
Thank you for reading my comment. I regained some hope by watching your video that there are ones out there that see the true value of the Christ. My wife and I have over 100 years as Jehovahs Witnesses and 50 years in full time service but now the real journey begins. We are both called and chosen and finally now we are free. May you continue your journey of Freedom although yes it is better to be alone in the wilderness than to be in prison of what is now an apostate man of lawlessness organization but Christ will make your way clear and hold on to you because you are precious in his sight and deserve a true brotherhood. I look forward to one day meeting you and hearing how you were protected. Never give in to doubt and value your training. Remember the road to life is cramped and few are the ones finding it. Congratulations ! Read Philippians it is all about the Christ. Love you my dear sisters
even Jesus commened the wicked servant who 'lessened' the debts[sins] of the people when he realized he was about to lose his position of authority...that he be warmly recieved.
Thanks. The awakening of many is at hand. The parousia seems to come soon. The housemaster will be overturned and the true christians, the ones who believe that Jesus is their leader and Master and Lord will get their rewards . What an amazing time this is. The WEF and the WHO want desperately change humankind into a kind of slaves and robots. And the organisation seems to comply. But our Father will change the difficulties into salvation for the anointed ones and then the great crowd. All have to wash their clothes into the blood of Jesus. Maybe we all who want to serve God, have to be baptized in the name of Jesus. Did you know that Matth 28: 19,20 have been added to the scripture , to made a statement for the trinity ? Everwhere else in the Greek scriptures it speaks of the baptism in the name of Jesus. We pray and seek God and serve God better than in the organisation. God bless you all who wants to serve God.
This is SOOOOOO interesting! It's an exciting prospect for me, as the JW's are a whole people group with whom I have not been able to have what I call "The conversation". I would totally love to have them stop at my door and be willing to come in, sit down , have a cup of coffe, and talk about their (and my) life experience as we are coming to know God. I would be delighted.
No you don’t trust me . They do not have your best interests at heart and are victims to being a cult . Trust me I was one . The whole purpose for them to talk you is to convert you . And are willing to drop you at the drop of a hat if you aren’t progressive studying with them or if you are a JW once you get disfellowshipped shun you as if you are dead
Me and my sibling experience was different with the witnesses when our mother passed away. The elders were not there for us, but the ones we grew up with were. Me and my sibling all left the religion more than 30 years ago. I still have friends that I grew up with that are witnesses. I refuse to be an angry person and demonize others that did the same thing I did. I would never, ever go back!
I hope it is true. Even if many former members would spurn the proposed "Jubilee", the end of shunning and making blood transfusions a matter of conscience would doubtlessly save many lives in the future.
Thanks for posting this. This is fascinating, especially about the Jubilee year. I am teaching at a Ratio Christi Chapter tomorrow and we will see what will happen.
Kind of hard to believe those changes would happen. The jubilee reason to forgive disfellowshipped people is typical of Watchtower however. They refer back to the old testament for their policies more than they should as followers of Christ.
Even if the door was open I wouldn't want to sleep there... I love that. It fits perfectly. No I will never go back. I been out a long time now but couple years ago when my granddad (nonjw) they did his funeral... I thankfully only watched from zoom. I could not stop the disrespectful sounds if I tried. So I know if I did go to a meeting I'd be thrown out lol.
I appreciate the videos from both of you ladies. And it doesn't feel like you're obsessing over wt. It's more of a breaking down of the propaganda and and the gaslighting and manipulation and uncovering the hidden agendas and calling out the lies. It's a cathartic process and it enlightens others who are just starting to truly wake up.
Gosto do teu ton de voz calmoi incisivo, direto que não permite réplicas que exprime indignação, dor, determinação Pessoas como você são a Tropa de Choque dos Apóstatas.Tenho honra (se você me permite) fazer parte desse pelotão.Abracao irmão.AVANCAR!!!.
Your honesty is a point for everyone to recognize. It's a cult with elders controlling the people. Jesus Christ the only true son of God , and God himself.
OMG thank you for this information. I was put out for not worshipping the governing body, although they lied and slandered and destroyed my life ( in essence) . I would take the higher road and be kind to those who judged me but could never pledge my allegiance to the GB
