The next part in my patch-by-patch series! Since we did 2 of these in a row, next video will be a change of pace - will talk a bit about 8.3/current in general
You should do a video of just reading and browsing through old forum posts, funny ones, angry ones, good ones and compare them to current forum posts... Pretty much can show how times haven't changed.. that a lot of what people argue, complain, and cry about on the forums today (10-15 years later) is similar or exactly the same to what players were posting back then. A lot of these old forum posts you show in these videos are quite silly, so the old forums may be worthy of their own dedicated video.
@Trevor Holmes depends on context. You say BFA is crap but once Shadowlands is out and whatever after that you'll probably look back on BFA with fondness, similar to how players today look back on Warlords of Draenor with fondness. As old forums posts through out the years show, everyone's always complaining and think the current expansion is crap. Even expansions which are looked back on and lavished with endless praised, i.e. WoTLK, the forums were exploding with so many complains about how bad it was, hand-holding, dungeons were crap, etc etc. but today WoTLK is regarded as one of the best expansions even though at the time when it was still current, it was far from it and you had a ton of players angry at Blizzard.
Dude you really love A Link to the Past and Final Fantasy X right? Keep hearing their soundtracks in your videos, thank you for reminding me of these awesome memories and each time this puts a big smile in my face. Thank you for your awesome work, keep it up Madseason!
If you use eyes of the beast with your pet at strat UD, have pet run out there is a free fall, after you land you can find one of those portals still out there.
I was pretty young back in the year 2000 but I was playing Everquest on my step-dads account back then. The GM's often were in game interacting with players and creating events it creates an amazing community experience IMO. Something unique I remember at halloween time one year all the normal mobs I was hunting were replaced with skeletons.
I started playing in 1.2, and it was a great time to join, as it was early enough that you really didn't miss anything, but late enough that launch glitches had been worked out.
I had the same experiance as Christ on the Gnomeregan boss, played a priest healer and got killed by the bombs bc nobody knew the mechanics back then, and coudn't get my Civinad Robe. had to run the whole dungeon again. On the positive side, it felt even better when I finally got it !
1:35 This has been confirmed not to be the case by the book 'The World of Warcraft Diary.". Essentially, the Dark Portals placeholders were just that: Placeholders for the Dark Portal, since they did not decide where to put it yet. They later on just forgot to remove some of them. Before you comment that the location of the Dark Portal has already been established in lore: They were willing to change that for the game just to make it more interesting.
Only played ff8 and I never had a guide Well that also means that I actually never finished the game back then Played it for many many months and loved it Kinda funny how not beeing able to finish games was pretty normal back then , but these days it would be ridiculous
One thing we've enjoyed in the tactical shooter genre recently is a resurgence of games that don't hold your hand (Tarkov for example). Unfortunately the landscape is just so different for MMOs nowadays.
Ever heard of a little game called Ultima V? NPCs would have schedules and actually go to bed. So if the guy selling broad swords was asleep you would be SOL till morning. Of course the day was NOT a literal 24 hour day and you could sleep to make it go faster. But this was 1988. Not an mmo, but the concept has been around for a while.
I have the second version of the original WoW strategy guide by Brady Games. I enjoyed using that instead of the internet while leveling up this time around.
As always a great video. Legends of Valor was the first game I recall players going about their business. It was buggy as hell but probably one of the first real WoW type games at the time.
Some people bring up the idea of a "hardcore" server with other similar rules. More xp required, harder tuned raids, more expensive training - I think that would fit pretty well if they ever decide to go down that route(they probably won't)
Asheron's Call had holiday events back in 99-00 when it first launched. Not sure about Everquest or Ultima Online. WoW actually pulled heavily from these games, as well as other MMO's that were out. The whole "exclamation point/question mark" over quest givers heads was ripped off from Asheron's Call 2.
Like you said, WoW probably made holiday events popular, but Wookiee Life Day debuted in 2003 for "Publish 5" on December 16th, while Winter Veil debuted December 14th, 2004....so, technically SWG did it first :P Great video though.
Star Wars Galaxies actually did the holiday stuff before WoW. During Christmas, there was an event called Life Day which is something that the wookiees celebrate in Star Wars lore. You could get free gifts like paintings or other dwcorations for your house. They also had other events, one called Empire Day but I think they removed it bwcause the theme was problematic.
Todd Howard wishes he pioneered NPCs living their lives. I don't know who was first but Lord British with Ultima was on that scene way before his sweet little lies became a hit. (Okay, okay, I'll buy Skyrim again! Sheesh.)
Mad: "You can use guides now days to help your experience as opposed to back then" Me: "Ha I had never used a guide and I never shall. I will either find it out for myself or I will miss it."
Honestly. I somewhat think that not making the spirit stat improve the chance to break long CC's should be overturned and returned to the game. Not classic ofc.
Back in these days of WoW the whole reason most of us would grind, do endgame and level WAS to be bad ass at PvP. The gear from endgame was the best and that is why is was awesome to get. It made you a badass in the world and was the reward for your grind. Then they introduced battle grounds and PvP gear and that was the end of the game for me. Before that the whole reason that you would get a 40-man raid group together and go get the best gear possible was so that you could show off in the world. Once battlegrounds hit there was no reason to do in-game content other than to get PVE gear. Lame and the end of WoW for me and my whole group of friends.
Shops don't close at night in Morrowind and npc's don't have schedules . Some npc's have small patrol areas, but none of them ever sleep or go to work in the game.
For 5:40 I believe wow at least in the western games was in charge of popularize, japanese and korean mmorpg's tend to do that and other stuff like marrying since some of their first games.
Pre-honor PvP was the best PvP. I never had more fun in 1st year WoW than when the sole point of PvP was fun. There were plenty of fun times after the honor system was put in. But it was never quite as good. The concern for points and ranks always hovered in the background. It was at its best when we all fought to just ruin each other's day.
Music at 3:50 is Calm Before the Storm by the Super Guitar Bros in case anyone was wondering. Just wanted to post because I love it when he uses this song. It is awesome.
I think that games becoming more overall convenient to play is a great thing. Allowing a wider group of people of different ages and diagnoses to play games and still have a great time is a huge mark in our worldwide efforts to be more accessible!
