Those who played the original x1 knew immediately that Alvis was Ontos, cause one of Malos's moves is Monado Eater. So we all knew that he could possibly be an Aegis. Until the Architect explained the third Aegis.
@@Mr_Blazeking The words "Aegis" ('ten no seihai', Heavenly Holy Grail in Japanese) and "Monado" refer to the same things: the cores of the Trinity Processor, their physical forms and the weapon they use (wow, another trinity). Maybe you meant that Alvis was never awakened as a Blade because he vanished in the middle of the experiment and this system was designed after that incident.
@@veryexciteddog963 I mean they are effectively the same duo of their universe. They even have the fire/ice duality going on. Jin became a nerfed replacement for alvis when he became a flesh eater; even before that he was one of the strongest blades in history. The fact there is no other blades contesting above him other than the aegises says a lot. He also played on both sides, like alvis did. He does care about the party but the protagonist is the answer they were inadvertently waiting for their whole lives--finally someone who wouldn't be a shit god that's also overly controlling would be able to free the world, and someone to reassure them they _will_ take care of the world after they're gone.
Ah! So Alvis IS Ontos! Take a look at his necklace. Though I never thought the third core crystal of the Trinity Processor would be colored red, almost blood-red.
Orange actually, it’s in reference to the color wheel: 1st) Alvis’ jacket is blue, the opposite color of orange and one of the 3 primary colors commonly used to symbolize one of a main 3 protagonists. 2nd) Orange(Ontos), Purple(Logos), and Green(Pneuma) are all 3 of the secondary colors.
Evan Talanay since I never played the wii version (I knew about the first game and watched it, just never played it), did the key mean anything important in the first place?
@@ayar2 at the start not much both basically grant the users the key to the entire universe they live in but the aegis loses this ability at the end of the game while shulk just chooses to not use the monados reality altering power
@@ayar2 The Aegis is a Monado. You can even hear Malos calling out Monado arts during boss fights. However Aegis is essentially just a title Malos took and was later given to Mythra as well since they're the same kind of Blade
So we have Ontos as Alivs as he is aiding in events for Xenoblade 1 reality and then we have Logos as Malos and Pneuma as Pyra/Mythra causing events for Xenoblade 2 reality all happening at once. There is a lot of questions here but guess they may never answer it even with the info we got from XB1 and XB2.
Yeah if Ontos didn't trigger the space time event that caused him to be sent to the reality of Xenoblade Chronicles 1, who knows what could happen. Mechonis overrun Bionis? Amalthus awakening both Ontos and Logos. Then poor Pnuema, to be cleaning up everything. Zanza aka Bionis killed by Egil using the Mechonis? Hell maybe Meyneth uses Shulk as a vessel.
@@thebakalord XC1 reality would perhaps not even exist in this form in that case. Alvis is the very foundation of the world, the consciousness of the universe, the overseer of providence.* Some might say the true god (Monad) of the world. (Gnosticism!) * Source is Xenoblade: The Secret Files fan translation.
@@thebakalord Actually I don't think most of the events of Xenoblade 1 would happen because of how connected Alvis/Ontos is to everything. The Monado is his sword and he bestowed two of them to Zanza and Meyneth, which practically made them gods. Without Alvis, they would be nowhere as powerful as they are in the game. Although if Alvis did stay in the XC2 universe, Amalthus probably wouldn't have awakened him. He probably would have found someone else to do it just like Pneuma since he clearly couldn't control Malos/Logos.
My boy-ovaries squirmed when I first saw him in the original Wii title, but when I saw him the the Definitive Edition... I was really feeling it... no pun intended.
Alvis should really have been a boss fight! Still, this is one of my favorite scenes from the game. You didn't see that one coming did you, my psychic friend?
@@corundumkrabble5035 well, it’s debatable how much ‘Alvis’ is in that fight, and he can’t see the future by that point, that power goes to A. XC1 Alvis would both be so powerful as to be invincible and nuanced enough to never want to fight.
I played XC2 and then XC1 DE, I wondered about Ontos a ton in between games, and then Alvis comes along and I'm like, wait.... wasn't there a third Aegis? Ontos? No way that's him..!
I still can't figure out why on bloody hell Alvis has that angry expression while being pretty calm for the entire Xenoblade 1 and being characterised by Rex as a heartless machine, a characterism not even Malos, Amalthus and Jin for doing mass genocide didn't get.
I'm pretty sure that voice isn't actually Rex, seeing as it sounds different from the voice he has in the trailer, and that would be really out of character for him.
@corundumkrabble5035 *SPOILERS FOR FUTURE REDEEMED* Okay, so Rex did say that. However, it wasn't out of character, since the 'Alvis' they fought literally was just a heartless machine.
As I was going through the game and especially once the Zanza stuff came up I thought he would be revealed to be a previous vessel for Zanza, the Ai revelation is fun too and I'm excited to see where that goes. But I was relieved to find out he was a good guy either way the whole time.
Rex did not awaken pyra or mythra but they chose him anyway similar to what Nia does with Rex she chooses him as her driver and so Alvis or Monado as you can call him chose shulk even above zanza(we even see him go zanza you fool so shulk what do you want) So to be exact mayneth, zanza and shulk are his drivers because they all fight using him
Theirs something I find rather interesting. Logos uses a Monado. Ontos uses a Monado. So why does Pnuema use an Aegis? One thing I've noticed is that the settings on a Monado resemble the settings on a machine, which makes sense considering their used by machines. So perhaps Pneuma's computer was designed to only stick to one setting? Maybe it was the first of the computers made, so the creators didn't know how to make settings at the time.
Even if Pyra/Mythra's sword's aren't straight up called monado's there still basically monado's in nature also the third sword aka Pneuma's sword does actually have the standard monado ring in it's hilt just like Alvis's and Malo's it can just be hard to spot sometimes.
Actually he didn’t he help shulk plus alpha is a seperated half of alvis with a form of its original self that want to erase the old world of aionios and create a new world
