I wouldn’t say that’s the case. It’s why he’s able to leave Dickson be without another word after the fight against him. Yes he was betrayed by the 2 people he trusted most, but he’s perfectly content in leaving them in the past because he’s now got 6 other people he can rely on, and much more than he ever did with Dickson and Mumkhar.
I don't get why, but for me this is probably the saddest death scene in the game. The music, the dialogue, the incredible voice acting, the cigarette falling out of his mouth, and most importantly, shulk shaking, almost crying as he killed his father figure. I think this scene is perfect
Idk why no one gets that “I won’t give you the satisfaction of watching me die” was just dickson acting tough, as evil as he was, he realized in the end he didn’t want the child he raised to have to watch him die
lol no? the he raised that he shot and then tried to kill? dickson was selfish. he was acting tough because he didn't want to admit that he was beat by them. he didn't care about them. he had nothing to gain except power with his whole scheme.
This is actually really sad. Like, sure, Dickson was a huge dick. But I genuinely think he did warm up to Shulk and considered him somewhat of a son. Just like Shulk considered Dickson a surrogate father. I might be imagining things but I think Dickson was even proud of Shulk in the end.
Baby Jiren Yeah, at least Dickson had some remorse, unlike Lorithia. And Alvis wasn’t even on Zanza’s side in the first place, he was just deceiving him.
Idk I thought Dickson was a grade A douchebag. Even at the end where he was like "I won't give them the satisfaction" it's like you didn't even understand Shulk at all. The deceiving line I took it as he was a fighter and didn't like doing the under-handed/tricking people stuff. At least Lorithia believed she would be immortal and Alvis was a program, Dickson had no real motivation to even be on Zanza's side Personally I think one of the games minus point was they didn't elaborate between Dickson and Dunban
@@sreddi83 Look at it like this: I take it as Dunban simply having nothing else to say to Dickson. I mean, you saw what he experienced with his other war buddy. At this point Dunban no longer has the same flame to pursue revenge against Dickson as he already had already been betrayed by Mumkhar. Hell even the way the end shot was framed with a dying Dickson in the background with Dunban walking away as if he's leaving him in the past. This may also be a result as his character development at his final battle with Metal Face at Sword Valley.
@@sreddi83 I get what you’re saying, but I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. When Shulk made his comeback with the replica monado and pushed back Dickson and the telethia, there was a scena between Alvis, Shulk and Dickson. They talked about whether the world should belong to Shulk or Zanza. Dickson said that either way made no difference to him. That meant he held no actual loyalty for Zanza whatsoever. Later, he confirmed that by saying that we was simply in it for the sake of power and getting to fight. That’s important because it solidifies one of Dickson’s characteristics - he’s a warrior. Warriors don’t tend to like showing weakness. Combined with several lines of dialogue that reveal that Dickson sees himself as Shulk’s teacher, as well as the final quote ”looks like the student surpassed the teacher” (which is the line I believe displays actual pride as opposed to sadness/anger), I think he did understand. I think he didn’t want Shulk to see him die, to know that he killed his surrogate father. Even though Shulk knew it from the start. Then there’s also the fact that he’s a giant and who knows how they feel emotions compared to homs. I might also be reading into it and be completely wrong, but those are just my two cents. So yeah, definitely a huge dick. But I think he had redeeming qualities, some of which others have mentioned too. And he always seemed genuinely happy/friendly around Shulk, way more than necessary for the job he was meant to do.
2:17 the absolute brilliance of the camera angle here. It looks like he's pointing to Shulk, indicating that he has that power, but he's just pointing at Fiora. Such good foreshadowing
Honestly really like Dickson really good character, the plot twist was obviously heavily foreshadowed, but I still liked it I enjoyed when he was working with us and against us just really enjoyable character.
He admired shulk the most, even more than Reyn and the others. In future connected is more obvious as it's told that he always talk proudly of shulk to his children
@@JD-pz3zk this game is huge, depending on how much you play it can take a long time to finish, I tried to 100 % and fell short still took me like half a year to beat lol they may have started it a while back is my guess.
Dickson's last words in the Japanese version "Is this the limit of a sheep who yearns to be a shepherd…" In the Japanese version, he emphasized his regret that he tried to become a god but could not in the end. It's interesting to think about what "sheep" means in Christianity.
I love the small and missable detail of Dickson's lips slowly fading from his grin to being limp, before the muscles can't hold onto the cigar anymore as it falls to the ground below him.
Some people wonder if Dickson really did, in some way, care about Shulk. All I can say is if Dickson really cared about Shulk, he wouldn’t have shot him in the back.
I mean, he said how he didn't like deceiving him and when his original intend never was to be fond of him, it's likely he got fond of him over the years he basically raised him. But of course his desire for fighting, which has been a thing since the beginning of the world is stronger in many areas.
I think it’s more complex than that but no nothing changes that he still turned against them. However I think he did end up growing close to Shulk and hated that he did, from the start it’s obvious he has his plan set already and his doing his best to make sure his feelings for Shulk don’t get in the way.
Dickson would have a great point if Zanza were truly an insurmountable power. He is only wrong because Zanza is imperfect, he should have denied Zanza and found something true to fight for.
I got spoiled for his death, but I didn’t know how the story would get there. They really made shulk’s father figure an evil monster who only pretended to care about shulk. Obviously there are some very depressing things about this game, but when you dig down to some things sometimes it just stings.
I just kind of realized the significance of the last bit of this video, where everyone suddenly ends up in Space and next to Saturn of all places. Perhaps uncoincidentally, Saturn in Roman mythology is considered the god of time, among other things.
Dickson got what is BY FAR the best death scene in the game. The dialogue, the music, and just how reslistic it is. He doesn't fight until he dies, nor does he redeem himself. He just accepts his fate and I love that
To all the comrades complaining about other people who complain about spoilers in older games, first of all Xenoblade 1 for the Wii didn't reach as many people as it DE will due to its limited distribution same and not many people bought it for the new 3ds either due to it being exclusive to the new 3ds. Its the same with spoilers for games like ocarina of time because spoilers not everyone was born in the late 80s or early 90s so they could experience the game in 1998 some people were born later causing them to well experience the game later should they not be able to have the same blind ad fresh experience as those born before? Same with Xenoblade should the people who didn't get to play the first one due to financial reasons or just missing out in not be able to freely experience it now?
Tbh, there should be something like an expiration date to spoilers. Should people never be allowed to talk freely about any game ever or make videos about them, not even in a hundred years just because there always will be someone who experiences it for the first time? I myself have never played that game until a few months ago, but I don't care if people are talking spoilers because, well, that game is over 10 freaking years old by now. If I really wanted to avoid spoilers about a game I wouldn't go to a video about that very same game and then scour the comment section.
"Damn. How'd that kid get so strong?" Oh, I don't know. It DEFINITELY did not have to do with him having a god keeping him alive essentially giving him control of a divine power, and being raised by what is essentially a divine figure with a bloodlust for battle lmfao.
5:32 My only complaint with the definitive edition. This scene don’t even make sense without the eye glow! Why was the red and blue eye glow turned so low in this version? I hate it. Also the glow around their bodies is so faint you almost miss it
Wow, look at this brown haired guy walking away from this sleeping/ wounded/dead/drunk guy. Without context you wont know thats what happens. For all a person who hasnt played this game knows, this could be a thumbnail from really early in the game, with Dickson resting in the background.
@Baby Jiren. This remake just came out. Not everyone had a wii to play this masterpiece. Someone could’ve been 3 when the game originally came out but now their 13 and would like to play it. Someone could’ve just played 2 and wanted to play 1. Dickson could’ve been someone’s favorite character and then they would be spoiled on his death. Do you remember your first time experiencing all these twists. Do you really want to take that experience away from people? If you truly love this game then you should be less insensitive.
Only thing that sucks is I can’t save at all. I lost to Zanza last night and I quit to main menu then play again today and found out that I have to start fighting Disciple Dickson again all the way to the spirit versions of Mumkhar, Gadolt etc then finally Zanza again. Why the fuck the game didnt autosave after fighting dickson
@@thischannelsimplyexist ikr? like I'm XC1 they have their own culture and native land but in XC2 they just kinda..... exist. you're never told where the hell they came from they're just kinda there.
“Only those with power have the right to decide such things!” “Xanthe just tell me where to fight, and I fight. And that’s how I like it!” Wow. Very similar to someone from Aionios…
@@oursinpacifique8269 I disagree, Lorithia is barely in the game. Dickson raises Shulk for 12 years and then puts out his cigarette on the blood next to his corpse.
@@GregorySnipe disagree all you want, that won't change the fact that dickson is not as simple as you describe him. Took me a long time to analyse him, rewatching every cutscene trying to make sense of what he said, but i eventually figured him out. Him acting pure evil does not mean he is pure evil.
Dickson, once he revealed his true identity, acted a bit differently when engaging with shulk and the others compared to when he was by himself. He was conflicted and did care about shulk, but didn’t want to let anyone see that, so he overplayed it every time he engaged with them to hide his feelings. He’s a bad guy, yeah, but he did care about Shulk
@@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506 more considerate of what?they have no obligation to not post them because of newcommers. If u don't wanna get spoiled, don't click, simple as that. Edit: and if u complain about thumbnail, I got nothing on that tbh, just avoid youtube until u beat the game. When 3 Houses was released I got spoiled but that s on me for clicking on youtube.
I personally feel the final scenes regarding Dickson are too long and contain too much filler. The cutscene before Phase Two of the battle against Disciple Dickson is really not needed as well Phase Two itself. Dickson should have died quickly like Lorithia and not have the final cutscene drag on longer than it should. Fortunately, I can skip the cutscenes altogether.
You seem like a generic boomer. Lorithia only died faster because she was just a flatly evil fool. Dickson actually had personality, though not as good as Egil or Mumkhar. I have to violently disagree with you.
Charachter development is NOT FILLER and you need those final moments both to give Shulk closure as well as showing us Dickson really did care for Shulk
@@nel5518 Ya the original was semi-limited, the 3ds port i doubt many really got into because it was for the 'new' 3ds which i doubt many bought unless truly die-hard, so really this definitive edition is hopefully the most widespread the game's been
