I totally love my 2017 MT10 to. The most thrilling bike I’ve owned and I am lucky enough to have had R1’s, FZS1000’s, a Stage II MT01 and many other motorcycles from all around the world. That CP4 motor has to be experienced! I am thinking of selling it, for an MT10SP. My single criticism is, if you lack self control you will attract the attention of the authorities inevitably. A staggering bike I enjoy every time I ride it.
Yes I made this vid over two and a half years ago and I've still got the bike. Every time I take it out I'm amazed how great that CP4 engine is. The longer I keep this bike the more attached I become, I've ridden it to lots of amazing places around Europe. It's a good point about self control, I ride alot with my wife who has a Triumph Street Triple and she is a calming influence. Thanks for watching the vid.
I wanted the SP too but the very best I could find for a 23 SP was 19500 out the door (including various fees california sales tax and registration etc) ...just for reference because the Black 2023 non SP I finally bought instead of the 23 SP was only $15,300 out the door so it was over 4000 for the semi active Ohlins! granted a couple other nice things like the belly cowl and braided brake lines. I just met another guy with brand new SP and he paid just short of $20k for his dang! I dont know if I am relieved or kicking myself. That suspesion is no doubt very nice but 4 or 5 k nice? I was thinking with the cash saved I could put on forged wheels, a lithium battery, and dang near enough saved to also buy a Penske shock too! the OZ wheels I found for 2500 the lithium battery is a couple hundred? and a Penske shock from 800 to 1500 I think For the same 20ish k which would be better? a stock SP? Or the standard 10 with 15llb lighter wheels a feather of a battery and a quality rear shock factory set for ME?
two brothers has a decat slip on that you can buy 2 different "power tips" for. Both reduce the noise level, the P1X provides the most reduction though. And it is a really mean sounding pipe, a lot cheaper than akro too.
MT-10 Geared much lower than the R1 - go down one tooth on the rear sprocket = better fuel economy and less wheelies. 2Bros is loud. I have the P1X in and it's still very loud. But the noise is too good to hide :) Needs a tune if you decat but that equals more power - better fuel economy etc... This bike is awesome fun and if you want bits it's dirt cheap. R1 front master cylinder + new brake pads for more feel. some people take out the exup cables and motor and tie the valve open. (need to disable it in the ecu or add a terminal on the plug for the moter)
CookieMonster the Rider it's true, in fact 2017, the MT10 had THE quickest 0-60mph of ANY PRODUCTION. Motorcycle on earth at 2.5 seconds. Quicker than an R1, superduke 1290R, s1krr , anything. Most have no idea just how insanely quick they are! They make more torque than it's 200hp brother R1 but make it much lower in the rev range too, have a larger airbox, thus more airflow more torque, re-tuned with lower rev range gets u to jsut over 60 when u shift from 1st, perfect 0-60 monster then shifting at redline your well in the max torque band already which will carry u to 100+ beyond anyhing jsut about. Their also 2 teeth down. Essentially a sprint monster! Before they released Yamaha put out press videos hyping it up and at the time I had a 2015 R1M and when the 3rd sneak peak video came saying 0-60 in 2.5 I about crapped knowing it was quicker than my R1M lol
I know it's been some time since you prepared this review, but you did a great job. Very informative, very honest and very down-to-earth. So refreshing after watching endless reviews of fast road bikes by those who do not represent the normal, everyday motorcycling enthusiast, so thank you. Take care.
Thanks very much, appreciate the kind words. This was 5 years ago now. If you were to click on the latest video you would find me still riding this bike in the Alps. It's been such a great bike. Zero issues, it's even on the original battery. No plans to sell. Thanks for watching and ride safe
I have both. They are totally different. The fz/mt09 is very light, agile, with a more super moto riding position. The engine is also awesome, with great low down torque - will pull any gear well from only 3,000rpm. Simply love its 3 cylinder engine. The fz/mt10 is a beast. Had mine reflashed, Akra cat delete, using stock muffler. Bike sounds incredible. Is simply a beast. Loves fast sweepers. Very stable everywhere - corners, straights etc. Suspension is much better than fz09 or most other bikes - after carefully adjusted. Stock fz10 seat is bad. Changed to comfort seat immediately. Love both bikes -
@@mp22222 I'm also a massive fan of triples, mrs has a Street Triple 675 which I sometimes take out. I've ridden the XSR 900 which I loved and the new Tracer 900GT. The whole MT/FZ range are great bikes at decent prices. I must be the only MT10 owner who finds the stock seat comfortable :-)
REAl REAction did you get an MT10 mate? Come and have a look at my channel, MT10 getting thrashed, bouncing off the limiter in all gears 😂😂. You’ll love it!! Might as well like and subscribe while you’re there! 👍😁
Banditmanuk yes you are I own both the fz09 and the fz10 and the seat on the 09 is more comfortable but still not great, the stock seat on the 10 is like sitting on a board to me, fuel...well I don't tour with it so it hasn't been a problem, and we have gas stations everywhere in California...i cheat on my fz10 with the fz09 on occasion, but we have an open relationship so the fz10 doesn't mind....
Great genuine review. I’ve just bought an SP without test riding one first, but I just knew from lots of reviews it was the bike 4 me. I had a R1 for several years then onto a FZ1 so some would it’s natural progression. My tyre of choice it the Angle gt’s 2 which are absolutely superb in every way, which I’ll be fitting to it shortly. TOP TIP to keep them wheels a little cleaner, use Wurth dry chain Lube, apply to a warm chain (so after a ride ) on the inside . Looking forward to getting winter out of the way so I can get some miles on her corvid or no corvid , let the modifications begin.
My Mt10 is now over four years old and still great. I've only recently fitted Angel GT2 s on mine and they feel good so far. Think you are going to love this bike, so much grunt without even spinning the motor high in the revs. Thanks for watching and ride safe 👍
If I had it to do over again I would have done like some do and ripped the OEM S22s off and gotten new premium tires from mile one and just sold the fresh new OE S=22s Bstones for top dollar on Ebay with photo clearly showing all the tit twigs proving they are new ....but instead I ran with em and was at the wear bar in the rear at a tad over 600 miles and were totally bald save a teensy bit of tread near the edges ...never did a single burn out no wheelies or donuts and hoestly I dont use the rear brake much even The OE Bstones are just CRAP for longevity! I mean they are really nice in the twisties as far as grip but that rubber just dissapears! SO FAST! I have heard that retail replacement S22s wear much better I heard there is much less tread depth on the versions Bstone sells to Yamaha for OE only ... but I didnt take a chance that this true. YMMV and WILL depending on what kind of riding you do but for only riding the twisties? The S-22s are SH!T
I kept my Versys 1000LT and sold my GSXR750 to get my MT-10. I've had it almost a year now and I love it. Versys for longer trips and taking the Mrs. MT-10 for solo trips and hooliganism.
They are a good combination, the Versys is way more practical for tours but as I ride solo all the time I found I just wasn't riding mine after I bought my MT10. Thanks for stopping by and commenting
Glad I’ve seen this video. Just bought the mt10 SP. having only ever owned sports bike, I can say catogorically this is hell of a lot quicker 0-100. Im going to keep mine as standard as possible.
Sorry about the late reply Chris. Congrats on the SP. I made this vid two years ago but still got the bike and still love it. I've never owned a sports bike so difficult for me to compare. Mine is still quite standard, most owners have de-catted and flashed the ecu but I'm happy as it is. In my latest vid a BMW M4 boots it as I try to pass....... its wasn't a match for the Yam! Biggest problem is holding the front down.
A proper review at last , think I may be getting one of these . Got a vfr for trips with the missis and miss the thrill of my R1 so why not . Great review thanks .
Few things as fellow 2 year MT10 owner 🙂 Actually FYI, I've owned 12 sports bike LAST being an R1M , the MT10 accelerates quicker 0-60mph than the R1 ,..or anything else out there! 0-60mph in 2.5 seconds becaue it makes more torque and down much lower, the 2 down teeth and retune make it so you hit redline jsut past 60mph setting it up for the quickest 0-60mph of any production bike (up to 2017) quicker than the R1, the superduke 1290R, Tuono Factory 1100 etc. so your gauge of how hard it pulls is accurate! 🙂👍 With torque, gearing, wind blast etc, my FZ10 (US) feels much quicker and faster than Amy of my superbikes and it is quicker (to 60mph) sure u loose out at top end hitting 155mph while an R1 flies on. Mine is modded and reflashed to where I could hit 167mph which is plenty for me. Had mine 2 years , bought new at US launch in 2017 lol for some reason they weren't catching on yet in US so I found one at launch from a California dealer that bought too many and in the uS they were marked up to $12,999 US msrp,..but I got mine a week after launch for $9,200 , NEW , 4 miles, full warranty, ZERO dealer fees, full warranty! Saved $3,700 plus a good $700 in fees. I've done everything from tracking mine to touring 1,200 mile trips to commuting daily in 110 degrees to snowy below zero . I didn't know that about adding extra fuel in there! Where were u last 2 years 😉 I've tracked mine and comming from an R1M I'd say a set of EBC pads are jsut as good as brembo pads and braided lines and much cheaper! Here's my thoughts on the exhaust, my first mod was a decat pipe, mainly because I had a full system on my crossplane R1M and I LOvE the v4 like sound from the crossplane 4, plus it was new so nothing was out yet but the other big reason was the first week riding , it's SO quiet on the freeway that I had people turning into my lane daily not hearing or seeing me. After a week I almost got pushed into the underside of a semis truck trailer so I had to change it. Here's the trick,..the Factory exhaust is steel EXCEPT the end can , which is titanium, looks good, can't get lighter than Titanium, has a large opening stock SO for me a decat pipe was my first thought jsut to see what it did,...I could've paid $425+ for a Termignoni or $130 for a DanMoto (a company in California). On heir website they made some good points, it's a short pipe, same diameter as the top end pipes, same welding process, better warranty and 1/4th the price SO for $130 I bought one, I compared it to a Termignoni $475 shipped pipe and couldn't tell a difference , maybe a sliiiiight bit in welds but about not. Entry, exit , internal diameter, measurements to the Y was identicle so I sent back the Termi and took 90 minutes on a Saturday and installed the Y-pipe. First off, the Cat is extremely heavy! 28lbs or something like that, track guys spend a fortune knocking off 2 lbs here and there, where else can u she'd 28 LBS for $130!!?? Subtract that from the Factory dry weight and it's a new number much better spec wise to the competitors. Only reason it took 90 minutes was I tried alone and if u grab a buddy to put pressure on the Factory end can it will go much faster. Guys she's a couple more lbs removing the exhaust flap motor under seat and cables BUT that's weight u won't feel and I had read that once you pull the cables thru they are nearly impossible to re-route if u want it back in for whatever reason , plus if u remove the flap motor it throws a code because it's not there, if you leave the motor , hooked up and cables ran, at the end of cables tuck them in to the top of he swingarm, there a perfect nearly intentional depressed area where you push them into that spot and they are out of the way, nowhere to go, no where to catch, and they still operate, the motor thinks it's opening and closing the flap and the ECU does as well so no codes. It's just adjusting the cables and there's nothing attached. THeN if u want the cat back on or buy a system down the road that uses the cables or have a dealer issue, throw the cat back on reattach the end of cables and your done: no reflashing the ecu, no 20+ hours of re-routing cables etc. the SECONd I fired up the bike I was in heaven!!!! The air box on the MT10 is much bigger than the R1 and the re-tune runs thru the revs much quicker and lower revs so it has a throaty nasty growl when reving! I truly believe it sounded as good as my R1M's full $3,200 Akra Titanium full system! May sound rediculous but I believe so. It's loud for sure, sounds very MotoGP BUT 2 years riding I never once had an issue, I loved it from day one to day I sold. I did 1,200 mile trips with no issues or complaints! 6th gear at legal speed limits with cruise on it was relatively quiet but I never ONCE had a car turn in my lane from then on, people can hear u when your next to them at 80mph safety! Took it to the dealer once and never had a question about the cat being gone. They had to flash a code for a light that was common where on some 2017 FZ10's if you started to turn the key and didn't finish the turn for whatever reason it set a code. My gloves one snowy winter got caught on the brake line to where I didn't finish turning the key. Butnits nice to know if a dealer said where's your cat, you can go home and throw t back on if they happen to care. For ANYONE that enjoys sound of a bike, do the $130 Y pipe before spending a small fortune on a full system or a cat back or even slip on . If you're looking for sound, leaving the cat in and getting an end can does literally nothing at all unless going a SC project GP shorty but even then its minimal. Leave the Titanium stock endcan and go cheap ypipe and see what u think. The other advantage is IF you choose to get a new end can, the cat delete pipes that work with Factory header and Factory can have the same outlet point as the stock cat, so you can then but jsut a slip on for "Factory cat" mt10's and the connection point is the same location As the stock cat exit. Adding a slip on to the cat delete y pipe will make a difference and save u money from buying a cat back system or say Akras $375 cat delete pipe and $720 end can. $1,000 or domed $130 and find an end can u like. There's a lot of nice Titanium or carbon fiber slip ins out there for $150. The sound is amazing!!! If u want to hear how it sounds, Go to the youtuber motovlogger in the US named "The Muscle Biker" his MT10 just has a cat delete and he does fly bys and comparisons in the canyons to other bikes and systems. Sounds amazing! It truly sounds like a muscle car if you are in front of it on the steeet behind it and it's sounds MotoGP. Comming from a modded R1M I being 15hp down from the superduke 1290R and Tuono 1100 I wanted the equivalent hp for the track, so having a much larger airbox. I bought a race filter, ($80) and then did some research and decided to reflash the ecu. Was simple to pull the ECU, instructions and youbute videos make it simple. I then mailed it to NelsTune they had it back to me in 4 days. I told them with order, my elevation I primarily ride at, mods added. (They will set it to that specific build) decat pipe, Factory can and headers, race filter, and what type of riding I wanted it set for, commuting and some track days. They reflashed it, smoothed out the throttle, they can remove the light for the exhaust flap if u pull the cables, raise the redline/revlimiter, ups your top end too, brings the already crazy low torque band down even lower and more broad . Shipped back to me for less than $400, and 178.5hp at the crank, that's a 18.5hp add over stock (of course with filter and decat. That's over 2017 superduke R hp , Tuono 1100 hp for less than $600 and don't yourself! Again the MT10 STOCK is quicker 0-60 than any sports bike, superduke , hypernaked of any kind , the adds and flash jsut made an already insane bike rediculous! Very very noticeable add in power, smoother throttle, higher rev limiter /redline which got me from 155mph to 167 mph top end. Still not a 195mph superbike but on a track helps a lot with back straights. With GPS recorder I was able to clock a 2.4 second 0-60 consistently after jsut an hour or so. Be sure and stay on TC1 or most sensitive depending on what to keep wheelie control on if launching. End result was quickest 0-60 of any production bike on earth, quicker than HyperCars costing $1M , awesome commuter , 2 up bike, (Much better for 2 up riding than any sorts bike , more comfortable for either person. No wrist pressure) AMAZING tourer , best wheelie machine money can buy, canyon carver , year round bike, I've hit dirt roads , and amazing track bike! All at half the cost of a hypernaked! I LOVE the looks, and here in utah US, there jsut aren't any of these around still so it got SO many looks and thumbs ups from guys on s1000rr's, v4 Ducatis, soccermoms, kids , Harley Davidson bikers, about all groups! I also had zero issues with engine or anything else! Point is I left superbikes (12 of them) 26 years riding street and track becaue of a wreck that messed my back up, the position on sportsbikes was too painful and I was depressed leaving them knowing they were the top of the performance Line but then saw a RU-vid video by 44teeth, where Barron Von grumble said at the MT10 launch that this new naked R1 would keep up with sportsbikes all day long on the street and he laughed and giggled the entire video on one wheel, then Al Fagan, BSB legend said it was one of the best bikes he's ever rode and the most fun,..a British superbike legend! So I went and rode a Superduke 1290R , a Tuono Factory and loved them but $20,000+ oitthe door was insane to me , bought a MT10 at launch after seems those videos , site unseen and it's been the MOsT fun bike I've ever owned!
Wow, longest ever comment on my channel, glad you love the MT10. I've had plenty of stick about the sportsbike accelerating faster comment (never owned one) so thanks for confirming. 👍👍👍 Thanks for watching and there is an updated 3 year ownership vid on the channel. Best regards Richard.
I stopped reading when you claimed to have shed 26 pounds with exhaust swap LOL ....yeah RIGHT! As if the replacement exhaust weighed nothing That and some other bogus statements like EBC pads miraculously being the instant upgrade to equaling or better than Brembo or steel braided lines etc. Braided lines are way better a couple years down the line when non braided rubbers have had their day ....but while still new the OE rubbers are fine just dont keep claiming it endlessly
Dear Mr. Bandit, Thanks for your thoughts on the most charming bike in the world. I hope to pick mine up before the end of next month. I too, was torn between the 10 & the Versys 1000. But I think since I've been driving a minivan for the last 10 years, it was kinda making me feel old before my time. So I decided that I can live off of the thrill my bike is to ride & the smile it puts on my face! P.s. thanks for the gas top-off tip. I know there are other more economical bikes out there, but I doubt they can thrill me like this one can, so I'll be smiling @ the gas pump...
@@Banditmanuk I actually watched that video right after. One reviewer said that all the power was in the top end, but i just don't see how. Sounds to me like he's shifting early. He said it was only his second bike, so i doubt he knows what he's talking about or how to ride. Sounds like one of those "if i can survive on it, i have to be good" riders.
@@davidleroth8644 I've owned plenty of four cylinder bikes and this is all together different. The crossplane crank does make a difference, love the rougher sound but compared to a mates FZ1n I think there is more power low down. Also remember its massively geared down on the sprockets compared to the R1. Genuinely the biggest problem getting away fast is keeping the front end down as it has a very short wheelbase. Best thing to do is a test ride, I wasn't even looking to buy this bike four years ago but just took it out on a whim, was hooked after 10 mins. Just beware its very thirsty! Other than that, its the best bike I've owned in 40 years of riding.
@@Banditmanuk Great to hear. It really looks right up my alley. I was considering a Diavel or XSR. Still may go XSR for the improved economy but i'll definitely ride both. I don't feel like maintaining a second ducati in my stable alongside a vintage aprilia. Gets laborious.
I did the same thing you did, I had a Versys 1000LT for touring, but wanted something more lively, so I got a 2016 Kawasaki Z1000 and that did for me !
I`ve now done, oh... 2000-ish miles on my new (to me) 2017 MT-10. Wow! Just wow! I LOVE this bike, i LOVE it!! My only "gripe" is that mine doesn`t have a quickshifter but that`s something for next winter. The fuel economy.... It`s not THAT bad, concidering what she gives back in smiles pr gallon.
Think it's only the first year that Yamaha didn't fit the quick shifter as standard. I had my dealer fit mine but apparently its not too difficult. Should see a small QS symbol appear on the dash when it's connected up. Don't use mine all the time but it's fun when pushing on. Have fun, it's a great bike. 👍
@@Banditmanuk Sounds about right because on paper mine is a 2017 but that`s only because it sat at the dealership since 2016. The MT-10 never sold in big numbers here in Norway. 07 and 09`s are everywhere but the 10`s are few and far between.
This is quite an old review of my bike, it will be 5 years old soon and I still love it. Been super reliable and massive fun. You have one of the best bikes ever, ride safe and take care. 👍
boo-boo I did wonder if on a hot day I might see petrol forced out of the overflow when parked with a full tank, but no nothing out the overflow. That insert is so the pump cuts off when the tank is nearly full to stop you overflowing. It's also there to stop you putting the nozzle in to far and perhaps damaging anything in the tank. Be better with a simple bar over like my old triumph. Wife's Street Triple has nothing at the top of the tank, just fill it up
I go to quite a few bike nights and listening to so many different bike sounds is great. I think these CP4s sound even better, than the Aprilia RSV4 or Ducati V4. Just music!
Thanks David, two and a half years after filming this vid I've still got the bike. It still looks great and has had no mechanical issues. Thanks for watching
Whenever I refit the Cat (for touring) I don’t bother connecting the cables. You can remove them and leave the motor connected to avoid any EM lights. I lockwire the EXUP open and leave it like that. I normally run a decat and Akra can and it’s stupid loud. You also need a flash if you want to mitigate the resultant slight loss in mid-range.
Coming from a 18 tuono , 2018 cbr1000rr , 2019 panagale v4 , this bike is such a fun powerful bike. It’s not as fast in the top end as tuono or pani but damn she’s a blast to ride and supremely comfortable. Even the tuono was racier in its riding position which hurt my back. Gas mileage sucks but I guess you can’t have everything!
I did this review two years ago now, still got it, still love it. Did big miles up to Scotland and back only two weeks ago (vid on this channel) Its definitely a fun bike to ride, thanks for stopping by the channel
i do the same filling up 2litres is a lot ,soon found out it would take more. the reserve light on will do 40 miles if you ride slow. i think this is the best bike ive ever had it does every thing so good. and it always puts a smile on your face. i mite put a leovince pipe on mine had them on othere bikes and with bafle in sound good. like me i dont like a loud pipe. the standerd one is loud now dont think theres much packing left in. nice to see a good review . people do a reviews on these after 2 hours on them i laugh when they think mode b is the fast mode on the sp and they try telling you the difference in power and there changing another mode not the power. almost put some mitch 5 on for a bit more milage .
Yep the 10 is the best bike I've ever had. Will definitely keep it another year or longer. Personally I never change the modes, always keep it in standard with the TC in the lowest setting. Nice to hear from other owners who love their bike.
I went from a singe cylinder Yamaha SRX600 45hp to an MT10 158hp. The MT10 demands respect or you will be very sorry. Thanks for the 2 year update. I put 1600 miles on my Mt10 in 2 months and I only have a 10 minute commute each way to work. I always look forward to riding it.
Similar for me I am about 70 and still had never owned a REAL liter bike so it was sort of a bucket list item.... it IS lunacy! My new 2023 MT10 is simply ridiculous but damn is it FUN! I wore the rear tire BALD by 900 miles the break in period even! Which I DID honestly ride at low rpm for the first couple hundred miles and even after that I never really held it at high rpm for mor than very short bursts ...riding in the twisties this bike just EATS rear tires it seems! As a comparison I got 2500miles on my OE rear tire on the 22 Yam 9. I really do LOVE this motorcycle except for fuel rannge and tire longevity ...Ive been told that "MT" must be shorthand for "Empty" lol either that or the abrieviation for "More Tires" lol
I think I'm probably a little lighter on the throttle as my tyres last a little longer than yours. Definitely an Empty 10, she does like a drink! I'm just coming up to 60, but I've still got this bike 5 years after I did this review. Perfectly reliable, Mrs and I just returned from riding our bikes in the French Alps. Still a brilliant machine. Thanks for stopping by our channel
Great and comprehensive assessment of the MT-10. When I first heard the sound of a CP4 engine, I just fell in love with it. The only thing I'd differ on is the standard seat, which I couldn't put up with, so replaced with the comfort seat, which was fine for a 4 day 600 mile run around Cherbourg last month. I had a go on a demonstrator last Oct. and I was completely besotted by it. Got my new bike just as the snow arrived in March! I've put on a screen, h/bar guards, 2 types of mirror extenders(brilliant), a fender extender, rad guard, rear rack(with Givi plate) and most important, a comfort seat on mine. The most common word most people, who've got these, seem to use to describe them is 'MAD', but in a good way! If you've been used to hydraulic clutches, the cable clutch can seem a bit 'grabby', but all is forgiven once you wind the bike up a bit. The acceleration is amazing and it's just wants to wheelie, if you don't push the front down. It also accelerates so quickly in 6th gear, I sometimes have to check to see which gear I'm in. I may be 67 years old, have had big bikes all my life and I'm an ex-drag racer, but this bike is just wonderful. I have other big bikes, but they've remained in the garage since I bought it!
Hi John. I haven't ridden the SP, but with a few mods, the standard bike is an absolute hoot. What Banditmanuk say is all pretty much correct, but I do feel the mods I've made make the bike better, for what I want. I haven't ridden an XSR, but I think you need to prepare yourself for a bit of a shock with the MT-10. Be careful with the throttle, because the acceleration is something else(I used to drag race many, many moons ago), but I've never got back home from a ride with anything other than a stupid grin. Good luck, but take it easy.
John Naunton Being honest I love the look of the XSR 900, Think I did a vid when I borrowed one while my bike was being serviced. Think you buy a bike with your heart rather than head. The MT10 is thirsty but the way it goes and sounds is amazing. I'm definitely keeping mine at least another year, nothing out there that betters it in my opinion.
Thought it was just me that liked the seat 👍Love riding this bike more than any bike I've ever owned, roll on the British summer. Thanks for checking in on my channel
@@Banditmanuk Have been fortunate enough to have owned several top end bikes over the last 3 years ,Panigale, Gixxer 1000,Multistrada 1200s, Daytona 675 ,Tracer 900 etc but i have to agree with you and say this has been my favourite to date .There is just something about it that makes me want to keep it for a lot longer than i would normally do . Just about to subscribe to your superb channel .
@@robertmcdougall8409 Thanks for your kind words, I'm just a novice at this RU-vid thing. Had a Multistrada myself in 2011 but think the Yam is the first bike in a decade I will keep long enough to put an MOT on. Thanks for the sub👍👍
Thanks, this vid is quite old now as I've now had the bike over 5 years. Still a great bike with no issues. Lots about this bike on my channel and thanks for watching
I used soft panniers once and only once they all will run unless you cover all plastics, will even rub in black coated metal. So I opted for a oxford aqua 30lt roll top bag on seat and had no issues. They do 40 & 50lt ones too. That with my top box enough for two weeks away
I decated mine and kept the standard can and just put a baffle in the front of the can which was then just as quiet as standard so I drilled some more holes in the baffle and now its about the right noise level
I love the sound these bikes make. A few years ago, I would definitely have done something similar. Unfortunately, my tinnitus drives me nuts and I just cannot take the noise, especially on some of the longer tours the Mrs & I do. On the positive side, I've still got this bike, it will be 8 years old in June. No issues so far.
I've got tinnitus aswell, both ears and it never let's up😱. Yeah, the bikes sound so good prob even better than my tuono 1100 did, I haven't had mine long but absolutely love it, it's definitely a keeper
I've had mine a similar time but have done less (kms) miles. One thing I do with filling, because I mostly ride with the misus we have some set rides which we can usually do on a tank. I top up the tank at home which is essential as you say she's pretty thirsty but then we bought it because it goes like the proverbial and a Tuono doesn't suck juice any less. The home top up saves the frantic fill at the BP. I haven't gone through as much rubber even two up on shitty West Australian roads. The battleaxs have done okay. I thought two up I hadn't been getting over far but the tyres tell a different story wearing to the edge! We generally do two hour rides or thereabouts. Like you once i rode it at the dealers i was hooked. It rides more like a 600 as it is light, I don't like heavy bikes, they don't suit my style. I did my own mods to the passenger pegs adding about 70 mill for her long legs. Good luck for the future, agree it's a great bike. I'm 69 and find it amazing.
two brothers has a decat slip on that you can buy 2 different "power tips" for. Both reduce the noise level, the P1X provides the most reduction though. And it is a really mean sounding pipe, a lot cheaper than akro too.
Thanks for the recommendation, I've still got the standard set up at the moment but if the butterfly valve fails in the stock set up I'm definitely going down the decat and end can route.
Hello Buddy, I'm excited for you! They are amazing machines, I hope wherever in the world you are that that the weather is kind and you get to enjoy the bike.
@@Banditmanuk there’s not many new Mt10 left in the dealerships because of the new one coming out. I think behind the scenes Yamaha can’t deliver any stock. They say march delivery for the new one but I bet it doesn’t happen. I am happy with the model you have. Was it expensive to fuel when you went touring on it.
@@buddysinsight9834 Supply is an issue. I made a recent vid about should I upgrade to the new model. I went to Tamworth Yamaha UK to ask when the new model was coming in as I was possibly interested. They couldn't tell me and weren't even interested in taking my details as they expected supply issues. The fuel costs definitely add up especially for my wife and I as she rides a Street Triple 675 on tour when I'm on my MT10. For comparison both of our bikes have 17L tanks, the MT10 will be completely empty at about 120 miles the Triumph will do about 180 on the same amount of fuel. Ride the MT10 hard and that 17L tank could be completely empty at 100 miles so touring does take some planning where fuel stations are. The new model is slightly better on fuel apparently, but not by much. Consumption and range is the only small downside of what is otherwise an amazing, exciting, comfortable, reliable and fun machine.
Enjoyed that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'm buying one next week. The red wheels version. 6 weeks old with 650 miles. Guy traded it in. Thought it was too fast for him. Comfort seat fitted.
Try sliding the forks up 15mm total (three of the marker gaps) to lower the front. It will turn better and no more head-shake. Also if you haven't, add 2 turns preload to the rear, max out rebound too. revalve or replace the shock, its the biggest issue.
I'm ashamed to say I've not touched the suspension settings in 22K miles. I probably don't push it hard enough to feel the limit but have certainly encountered head shake. Thanks for the recommendations, perhaps I should try some adjustments. Cheers.
Test rode two bikes today, first the triumph street triple rs 765, which i thought would be the right bike for me, but didn't gel with the riding position, gear lever was set a bit high for me, it was comfortable to sit on, just wasn't ideal, i'm 5'9, then tried the MT10, was blown away, didn't even get a chance to use it properly as it was rush hour and no open roads anywhere, but the power, handling, and even low speed filtering was fantastic, felt right at home with it, but not sure where the power and acceleration could be used without losing my licence!
I had no intention of buying an MT10, just fancied a test ride. I was hooked from that moment. As my wife rides a Street Triple I regularly ride both but I prefer the 10 as it suits my larger frame. Won't be long before I do a 3 year review on the 10 as I still love it and it's been super reliable and super fun. One small point...... 17L tank on both bikes, the 10 will be empty by 110 miles the Street Triple empty by 170 or 180. Thanks for calling by the channel 👍👍
@@Banditmanuk the thirstyness is the only thing putting me off but coming from a gen 1 tuono with pi55 poor mpg I reckon I've got nothing to worry about plus it sounds like the grin factor this bike gives more than makes up for the mpg ;)
Boom Box I debated the Tuono Factory when I bought the MT10, the mileage is so bad becaue it's so much fun lol constant wheelies and 0-60 sprints, found myself always in B mode and screwing around so I can't blame the bike. It's not noticeable beyond a Tuono or superduke. Couple dollars more a month in gas is all. Asvantage of this over the Tuono is reliability, dealer networks, price , and decat it and the crossplane 4 is very Aprilia v4 like in sound with a $130 cat delete pipe . Cheaper insurance too. I was looking at the 2017 Tuono Factory when I bought my MT10 , $17,500 + fees for me out the door of dealer at over $20,000,...a Tuono RR 1100 was $14,500 plus fees which put me over $17,000 out the door, the MT10 new at launch. Was $12,999 but I got for $9,200 new shopping around out the door, no dealer fees. Brand new, no miles, full warranty! Less than half the cost of the Tuono Factory. Owned 2 years and the most. Fun bike I've owned!
Yeah just sold my Mt 09sp,,got the mt 10,,non sp,,, only done 80 miles so far,, wow,, what a machine, eats tyres chains anf drinks fuel ,,, perfect,,, don't care about any off that,,, it's a monster,,, and I love it,, lol,, fun fun fun,
Just traded mine in after just under 2 years. Decided to go for a complete change and bought a Z900rs. I am having to re-calibrate my brain and get used to the more sedate acceleration.
You know that's my current favourite retro bike, trying to persuade the wife we need the Z900RS as a third bike to share (she rides a Street Triple) Have fun with the new machine, just think how much money your saving on petrol!
Awesome review! I am dreaming of getting one of these. I have a Harley Touring bike but would like something more performance oriented without having to dumping money into it.
Anthony C. Roberson coming from a Harley, better test ride one and see , you will be shocked at how much you get out of this bike, I for example was on the freeway going 75 mph , I had this idiot tailgating me real close (about literally 2 feet behind me) so I pulled the throttle hard, I was up to 110 mph in less than a second and far way from that idiot....I had the biggest smile out of shock and enjoyment ( coming from a cruiser myself) , mind you that cruiser was no slouch but there is really nothing like this bikes low end torque.
Had a version of the Z1000 engine in my previous Versys. You will notice a big difference. This review is over two years old now and I still have this amazing bike. She has a thirst but is still fabulous to ride.
Before the Z1000 I owned a MT07 so I kinda think I know what you mean with the difference between the kawa and the yamaha haha. Great review btw sir 👍🏻
@@BigbossJesse1 I took the new Tracer 700 out on this channel not long ago and was impressed with that MT07 engine. Thanks for watching and for the kind words, cheers
i love the pilot road 5 tire i use it in florida rain all the time cuz i ride my bike as my work bike and they are extremely grippy and feel very confident in the rain and so far about 3k miles on it and doesnt seem to be wearing down at all they still look new
An honest review of your bike , and I agree with you on some build quality on the seat though I bought the comfort seat, I’ve had mine since September last year (SP version) and done 6000 miles, just back from Scotland 2000 miles in a week, I’ve gone for Bridgestone T31 tyres. Agree with you on the fuel consumption, I’ve fitted brembo track pads which to be honest give a little better feel, but I don’t think they pull up any quicker. Down side I grow horns on it.
Thanks for checking out the review Tony. Nearly time to do a three year 19000 mile review. Like you just back from a damp 9 day Scotland trip (first episode on this channel if interested) Still love this bike although range is an issue, especially arriving at a closed fuel station in Mallaig on a Sunday!
@banditmanuk I actually run out of fuel on the way up to Scotland, my fault, I think I was going through a midlife crisis, seeing as went from aFJR 1300 to this and I’ll check out the 3 year review safe riding mate 😁
As far as chain lube I've always used Bel-Ray Super Clean. Riding Suzuki's with white wheels I know the struggle. That stuff was amazing. Got 15k+ American miles out of a chain and sprocket set with it as well
No seen much Bel-ray stuff on the shelves over here but currently using Yamaha's own 'dry' lube which does appear quite good. Just turned 16K miles yesterday and the chain and sprockets still look ok. Soon be time to do the three year review, but basically love this bike and keeping it at least another year. Thanks for calling by the channel Will.
You might not have noticed mate but in the owners manual for Yamaha it recommends premium unleaded non ethanol for better performance an healthy engine have a look an the best fuel is shell v power 99 octane an 0% ethanol mine runs like a dream
If that servo motor, for the exhaust EXUP valve, did fail then you could wire-lock the EXUP valve open; as a temporary fix. Id check the EXUP valve and cable free play etc.
I've heard of stones in under the EXUP valve cover jamming the valve. Its the excess noise and the necessary remap required that has be staying stock cat.
Banditmanuk The Super Duke 1290 R fit like a glove. But, the price tag. Duke 690 was just a touch close to the knees. We’ll see what the Ducati 939 does.
hogluvr1 The Super Duke is a mighty machine with a big price tag. Back in 2012 had a Multstrada 1200, that fitted me well but was a total warranty nightmare, put me off ever buying another Ducati.
Banditmanuk Sadly, I am hearing maintenance as a key point surrounding the Ducatis. Not always problematic, but frequent and costly. The MT is looking better all the time. Awaiting release of the Duke 790, not yet available in the US.
If you decat, there is nothing you can do about the noise unless you get a 2 foot end can. Get the bike ecu flashed to disable the valve, then completely remove the cables and figure out a way to keep the valve permanently open.
Yes thanks Seth, at the moment because I tour allot on the bike I'm going to leave it stock a little longer. When the valve or the motor under the seat goes it will force my hand.
Energon Cybertron correction. ..IS the quickest there is! Or at least was thru 2017. Held the world record for quickest production motorcycle 0-60mph /0-62KMh in 2016-2017. That's ANY production motorcycle on earth, ever! Not sure if it still is but was as if last summer. (2.5 seconds) that was Yamahas big pre release claim and was legit. With some minor mods (cat delete (25lb shed) race filter, NelsTune ECU flash) I was able to hit 2.4 seconds consistently with a GPS data logger .
Nice review, they are an awesome machine, I have the SP and love it, still have the standard exhaust as well don't need it loud and don't want to loose power, it's titanium too 🍺🍻
@@Banditmanuk I'm the opposite. Owned the previous R1. Considered an SP but the colour scheme does nothing for me. Having said that I think the Ice Fluo with red wheels I'm buying is an unusual combination.
Good tip on the traction control, I probably wouldve made the same error trying to take off briskly. What about taking off from a stop? Or do you only need to give it a moment after first startup
As it was explained to me its about the amount of time it takes for the abs light to go out from stop. Once the bike has been started and run a few metres down the road everything should function just fine. From parked up off don't give a handful on wet or damp roads, you may regret it!
Mine made the the same ticking noise from the cable servo...... I found that it was caused by either too tight or too loose cables. Have a play with the adjustment, it may go away.... just traded mine for a tracer gt as like you I really enjoy touring.
Matt Sheen Not sure if you've seen it but got chance to take the Tracer GT out while my MT10 was being serviced. Posted a vid on my channel, it's a really nice bike and being honest, a way more practical toured.
boo-boo my previous Versys 1000 inline 4 returned MPG in the early 50s but lower revs and lower tuned at 120bhp. There is a price to pay to have 160bhp although the KTM super duke returns better fuel miles for similar power
Thanks for the advice Emil but I think after 5 and a half years and 28,000 miles I know how much I can get in the tank without it forcing fuel down the overflow on a hot day.
That's interesting, if you look far enough back on this channel you will see I came from a Versys 1000. I've now owned this MT10 over 6 years. Still brilliant, still reliable
I own a 21 mt10 love it and I agree on fuel consumption lol but at times it's hard to ease the throttle. And filling I do the same gradually fill it till I can get max fuel in the bike. I'm box stock and it's a good sound I will be needing a rear tire down the road as I have 4600 miles on it . I was thinking of changing the gearing either 1 tooth bigger counter or 3 tooth down on rear sprocket drop the rpm a lil. Turning 5grand at est 70mph mt10. My previous Kawasaki ZRX 1200 What Turn 4 grand at 74 miles an hour. Just a thought. great video and ty for your time and thoughts on the mt10 sir .ride safe scott From florida
This old vid keeps getting views, but I've still got the bike now, owned it 5 years 3 months. Still love it, lots newer updates on the channel. I've just fitted the 5th rear tyre (tire in US!) to the bike. My Facebook tells me I was on holiday this day 10 years ago in Florida 😎 I envy your year round riding. Enjoy the bike, it wont let you down. Best wishes from a cool damp central UK (Near the Triumph Factory)
@@Banditmanuk keep in touch my friend. I've had it 6 months sometimes I think I might want something different then I got a ride and I'm like oh hell no I love it. If you're ever out this way again I'm around Ocala Florida I got a couple little silly videos newbie at videos and my cell phone shows my mt10 and my xsr900 how many miles you got on your bike now?
@@mototechsam3051 I've got 26,000 miles on mine, had the big valve service back in the summer. Seen your vids but couldn't comment. I also own a heavily modified XSR900, modified by a company called Velocity moto in London to resemble a RD350LC (owned one in the 80s) Wife also rides and she has a Triumph Street Triple 675. Did the theme park thing 10 years ago when my kids were teenagers but I enjoyed driving over to Daytona and had a day visiting the Speedway. Anyways enjoy the bike and take care.
12,500 miles? I thought the English used the metric system? My 1993 Vmax gets 25 mpg (10.63 kpl). At the 90 miles mark I switch to reserve and look for a gas station, err petrol station...sorry. j/k I will definitely buy an MT-10. Thanks for the video, very helpful.
We have adopted the metric system on most things here in Britain but we do like to be different to our European neighbours. Speed limit signes and vehicle speedometers are in MPH, petrol (gas) sold in litres. The MT10 will definitely need filling up around the 100 mile mark but will do 130 ish on motorways (Highways) It is a great trouble free bike now at 16500 miles. Most people still measure fuel consumption in miles per gallon here but unfortunately our gallons are slightly different to American gallons. All super confusing! Glad you found the vid helpful and thanks for calling by the channel.
Banditmanuk The thing that confuses me the most about Britain is that you (sometimes) use stone to measure peoples weight, but ive never seen it being used as a measurment anywhere outside of that. Just why? You guys are worse than the Janks :p
Just know if you de-cat that bike it will run too lean and you will lose hp unless you flash that ecu. typical setup is a high flow air filter and de-cat pipe with whichever slip on but i would just leave the factory one on and get it flashed. If you use the stock muffler your looking at about 500 US dollars. That will make the mt-10 come alive about 30 more hp and a smooth throttle. kinda stuck on being louder though i cant think of anything that will compete with stock. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wlvSHeu11Gw.html
Nearly four years since I filmed this. Still got this amazing bike and I've still left the stock exhaust and cat on. Love the bike and too be honest I definitely don't need any more power. Thanks for watching
Best way to keep the wheels clean, use cheaper lube like dr wrench from auto parts store, not that tack on bs from the bike store (scam stuff really). Ride it after lubing a few miles at "highway speeds" to let excess oil splat off, THEN give the wheels a solid cleaning using that chain lube, make sure you clean it and paper towel it to fully dry, don't use water. If you do all that, you shouldn't see dirt on them for 300-1000miles, and by them i of course mean the rear, I clean the front using the lube as well. but that's not the one that gets dirty fast.
Yes with the blue anodised wheels on my Super ten it also gets dirty quickly, so can only imagine those must be a pain. Filling up is the same issue. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 🇿🇦
Hi sorry this comment is so late but i have only recently discovered your channel and am watching through. I have my mt10 decatted with a scorpion serket can and decat and find the volume to be perfect with the optional baffle fitted and im pretty sure the tank range increased. Fitting a mid size screen defiantly improved my mpg and range on touring runs as im also a big guy and i imagine my chest area is pretty much a sail at speed, i use the givi because it takes minutes to fit and remove (i only use it when im doing big miles) Did u get your exup servo sorted in the end?
Great highly informative review but for such a performance orientated bike I don't think the mpg is that bad ,my present bike's the new Street Triple R and my average mpg is between 33 and 38 which is the worst I've had since my two stroker days.
@@cuzimaluzer777 Think I would agree its pretty bad. Just steady road riding touring my wifes Street Triple does 170 miles on a 17L fuel tank where the MT is about 125 max. I like the bike enough to put up with the poor consumption.
Great video, my exup was making that noise and it turned out to be a slack cable, i wound the tension on abit on the adjusters and it stopped doing it. I have since switched to the scorpion exhaust with a baffle and the sound and volume are pretty pleasant... does knock abit of the mid range out if you dont get a remap though. All the best.
C RT Thanks for the comments, will check the adjusters but you would think the dealers would check that? Well perhaps not. Take it you have the Y piece de cat?
Yeah ive got the decat and carbon tapered serket can with the optional baffle, job lot was about 600 quid. Spent 10 years as a Yamaha tech in a main dealer and can honestly count the exup servos ive changed on one hand... generally speaking they dont give any grief but the cable tension is important. The mt10uk owners club on facebook have a digital workshop manual if you need one. All the best.
Hi Casey, yes it does use quite a lot of fuel but it's such a good bike I've still got it and will be doing its five year review soon. Ride it hard the 17L tank can be empty at 100 miles. Normal road riding about 125 miles. Top gear on a highway possibly 145 miles. Thanks for watching
I ride a Z1000R 2017. Under 140 km/h (3 rd gear) not easy for sport bikes to keep up! I believe MT-10 is the same. sport bikes get faster over 160 km/h
I got a 636 a few weeks ago and only today just tapped 160km/h. It's so ridiculously easy to get there that I'm in no hurry at all to touch 200+. Ive gone from a 250, too. So it's a big step that I'm treading with carefully. But oh man what a buzz these bigger bikes are!
I do roll on here and there and enjoy the pull a lot. But I like my license and insurance rates and most of all my life as well! Those crazy numbers on dash are not for me. Long story short, I really love my Z1000R!
The 07 is a brilliant bike and quite fast. The MT10 is just another level of crazy. Made this vid four years ago now and I've still got the bike, says how good it is.
This is a really nice looking bike, it's the shape I like and wheel color has nothing to do with it because even if it had black rims I would like it just as much. That X-up valve in the exhaust is a nice feature because it really helps with the low end and mid range torque, if it were mine I would keep that valve even if I did not keep any other part of the exhaust. (I would fix the motor or relay clicking that is under the seat) I glad you stated how tall you are because usually on this type of bike I look like I'm too big to ride it. I'm 6'1" @ 280 lbs and ride a concours 14. I will never be small because at 212 Lbs I had 9% body fat, yes I lift heavy weights and have for most of my life so I need a big bike. (A 4XL jacket is snug on me.) Nice review...
You can try a SP Engineering Diabolus Stubby decat exhaust. It is a lot saner compared to the competition and also comes with a DB-Killer to quieten it a bit more. www.spengineering.co.uk/yamaha-mt-10-round-carbon-outlet-diabolus-stubby-carbon-fibre-decat-exhaust.html Here's a MT10 with SP Engineering Diabolus decat exhaust. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tC8nffAjQPw.html
Excellent, honest appraisal. Rather an odd choice for a tourer if I may say so? I think they look awesome to be honest, and you would never know that you have done that many miles looking at the bike. If it 'fits' you....it's probably way too tall for me! What chain lube do you use with yellow wheels?... it took me what seemed like hours yesterday to get my alloys looking 'reasonable' ! As a side note what are those gloves?
Paul Lee Ha ha yes an odd choice for a tourer; simply its so much fun to ride I live with the problems of consumption and range. Usually I have preprogramed routes in my Sat nav with filling stations so as not to worry about running out. Use Yamaha Yamlube on the chain sparingly after cleaning. Gloves are just cheap Hunter summer gloves picked up from Paignton bike fest for £5.00! Wear them with my vented kit on these really hot days.
mt10 and mt09 is relly pain in ass when have front wheel up it is dangerus in corner i have gsx-s 1000 with 170 hk the weight is good front wheel hard to get upp becasue more weight
I definitely get what your saying, more weight on the front wheel in the corners is safer. I just take care not to whack the throttle open mid corner. The MT10 has a very short wheel base making it even more wheelie prone.
This bike is now over 6 years old and still brilliant. Probably more affordable now second-hand. My respect to you for what you do. Thanks for watching and merry Christmas
Try a link pipe + Akrapovic exhaust. There is a db-killer for sale for your Akrapovic pipe! Heard it this weekend at the track and it was a great sound, loud but still *gentle*.
@@Banditmanuk I'm thinking of taking my bike test this year. I'm 42 and 95kg and have no experience. Sounds like a mid life crisis I'm sure but life of for living. Was thinking maybe Honda CB650 or an MT07. Do you have any thoughts or reconnections? I don't have a garage sadly so the bike would live outside.
@@ChipZilla69 Honestly you cannot go too far wrong with either of those bikes. If in the UK lots of training schools use the CB500 or CB650 but for sheer lightweight fun the MT07 takes some beating. Not intimidating but still a great fun bike you won't feel the need to upgrade from after a couple of months. Think the main thing is to look for a bike that fits you, not cramped and uncomfortable but not super tall. Biggest recommendation is to get a bike you can put both feet flat on the floor when stationary. If you are a bit taller something like a Versys 650 or Tracer 700 would work as well. Good luck and safe riding.
No I don't. I'm really tall body wise and find screens just cause buffeting and turbulence. The stock front end does offer enough protection to let me ride at 80+ for long periods.
