Every time I hear Leffen complaining about how broken Yoshi is, it just fills me with joy that aMSa single-handedly made Yoshi a viable character to play as
The funniest thing other than leffen getting his ass handed to him by aMSa, is that he got destroyed by someone who trained melee while having a full time job.
if leffen ever tries to complain about yoshi, and his fanboys start to spread it, just refute them with these 6 words: "yoshi can't jump out of shield".
Thank goodness for people like aMSa who are so good at their unconventional characters that they single-handedly change the meta of this 2 decade-old game
@@TheCagedK Worse definitely, Fox and Falco are broken ass fighting game characters. Shine is an abomination. The question should be is Link could enough to win anyways etc.
@@ReavenM1911A1 What makes characters not top tier is usually very simple things like having a grab that's super easy to punish. A melee version that changed the least amount of stuff to only a reasonable enough degree that it achieves some kind of relative balance would be pretty cool imo. Not like Project M. That is way too much.
Watching leffen getting his ass handed to him never gets old,especially by yoshi and puff as he loves to john about them,specifically the latter, all the time
@@QuantemDeconstructor he johns about every match up he loses,but the puff one in particular seems to piss him off the most cuz he went on so many twitter tirades and directed many of his fanboys to shit on hungrybox because of it
@_-M-_ no worries dude we all learn every day. Apm isn't melee specific! It simply means "actions per minute", which references how many button presses/movements are done.
Man I love watching leffen cause I feel like any moment he's gonna give an entire Class Speech on why this move should be removed or why yoshi is the most broken character for the meta
@@paintedflop6150 I dont even think it is optimal.. just the movements are so fucking nuts when youve played the game casually. All the little tricks to make those easily predictable movements precise and fast.
I have never watched these tournaments, are people always like that when they win? I have seen a video and amsa is always happy and shaking hadas but the guy who lost here immediatly left and didnt say a word.
@@Manimanocas This is Leffen we're talking about after all... the guy who helped spread the Smash community allegations (which, by the way, ended up being total fabrications) and still ended up being worshipped by the Smash community.
Yoshi/aMSa is the new hotness in a 21-year old title, I don't blame them. It is annoying that they still mix up the terminology on some of Yoshi's defensive options though.
@@bluyuAs a soloist, sure. In an ensemble? Frame perfect is about right. However, musical performance and competitive Smash are entirely different beasts, as you don't need to have reflexes and ranging skills as a pianist or rigid and consistent timings for the same five minutes a hundred times over as a smash player.
Been an amsa fan for years glad he’s finally getting the attention he deserves. What’s fuckin dumb is people spouting bs about how yoshi was secretly top tier. No. Idk if it’s just a meme but if it isn’t: a good ass player whooped your ass with skill and you don’t know the match up because you and every one else are too busy tier whoring to know any matchups that aren’t A tier or higher. Basically, if it isn’t fox you don’t need to know really cause nobody doesn’t play fox. That’s what happened here.
Clearly he have plenty matchup knowledge, when on the contrary, there's literally no other top level yoshi player and of course amsa is really talented
Is like in Tekken, with Rangchu using Panda, absolutely nobody has great match up knowledge about playing against Panda; thankfully amsa also has the technique and talent to make these matches so amazing to watch.
The fact that they are even referred to as gods is goofy in itself. They are super good at a game that someone else made...cool. "God" is an over-exaggeration lol
@@foyo5497 I mean, it’s a figure of speech…? It’s a cultural term in the melee community, the same way we refer to someone being “insanely good” at a game, we call them a god at it because we mean it figuratively and more so objectively, not literally being a god? It’s just a replacement of a word with slang, not really an over exaggeration based on its usual context.
@@foyo5497 They were the 5 greatest players at one point in the game, the skill gap between them and other players was so vast that the 6th best player could barely take stocks off them. That's why they got that title.
@@EdDevil thats not even remotely true, there were dozens of players who were close enough in skill level to consistently take games off them, and also several players who even took sets. They were just distinct because they were the only 5 players who were winning majors and all had at least 1 set win on the other 4, and it was a huge cornerstone to be the first person to take a set off all 5. Hax and Wobbles even came close by beating 4/5 of them, Leffen was the first to beat all 5 though. It was always a dumb title and I remember m2k complaining about it back in the day.
We're really living in an amazing era for melee. To see someone do so amazingly well, and with a character that literally NOBODY else in the scene can pull off. It's like something out of an anime.
IKR, i'm so proud of him! I still remember when he would turn to Toph for help and when Slime said he wanted to stay abreast of the news, aMSa said "breasts on the news?" XD
Can we mod it? It'd be one of those minimal fighters like dive kick or footsies. 5 stock, 300% damage, FD, and the only moves that works are Fox up smash and maybe shield.
@@GuyN0ir I said what I said lol. Although it’s fun to laugh at leffen being a clown, I think melee is better off dead with all the other 20 year old games that aged like milk
@@Heavymetalthunda3 I personally think longer lifespans for competitive games is a good thing. Melee isn't the only one where the meta kept evolving far into the game's lifespan.
@@GuyN0ir the game and the community are both awful lol. It’s also holding back any future smash titles because of stupid dickheads like leffen who spend the entire month after the game comes out crying about how melee is better because the new game is different. How is the meta evolving? one guy won with yoshi against someone infamous for not doing his homework and making excuses when he loses because he’s not as good as he thinks he is. That’s not meta evolution that’s one guy winning with yoshi lol. even if the meta is “still evolving,” the game is outdated and plays like shit compared to literally anything made in the last 10 years. Like I said, I think it’s better off being fondly remembered than being forcibly kept alive by boomers who don’t like change keeping it hooked up to life support
Amsa who has grinded for years finally getting wins and positive recognition. I admit I'm not the biggest fan of him... I sort of wrote him off as that guy who was good at yoshi who would play well but be a middle of the pack andy. But he's shown up this year. I got to give him props. I hate it when someone plays a character outside the Marth/Falco/Fox meta and performs well suddenly people wanna call the character a tier 0 or limit its abilities that the person playing has had to optimize to play against top tiers. They aren't broken! Other people are just too focused on the top they can't see the threats from the bottom.
Hey guys I really think we need a jump limit on Yoshi. The super armor he gets from just pressing jump is too strong, I cant win against it and I dont want to get any better. If the rules dont change I wont be competing in melee next year.
Is this one of those situations where someone sticks around in a community even when the majority of people don't like him? That's what it seems like ngl
You are being reductive. Its like saying a volkswagen beetle is not fast because not enough people drive them Like I read somewhere, Yoshi has a high skill ceiling. What that means is that when you play to his strengths you can qualify for competitive setplay There are few people who are making too 8's with Yoshi because they are not confident in his kit. If AMSa's success was random, then you could attribute it to luck or riding the wave, but because he is consistent with the handling of the character you must put respect on Yoshi What people like you like to do is gather all of your favorite toys and play army with them. You are conditioned by dominant strategy to bet on the merits that reflect your likeness. In other words, that which is most like you should win, that which is confusing to you should lose In this case you fail to appreciate that their are levels to chess. Characters that have a set skill floor are consistently facing each other. Sometimes Marth is on top, sometime its Sheik, sometimes its Peach, and sometimes Puff By your own rhetoric, only the players make them good. What I'm saying is that because they are always in a round round robin as the proving ground, the value of those choices is variable. Its NOT always Marth or C Falcon, but they have been proven as success because of how _their_ kit is embellished by the meta For that reason you get players who are predisposed to certain habits because they believe that rote memorization is the path to proving themselves. I just wonder how your argument stands when aMSa is essentially proving the character through both hard work and talent
your life is something! you serve select purposes! you should acknowledge yourself now! and continue sharing oxygen that continues to be generated in this blue trapped bubble, because who really knows what we're here for? be aware of yourself. i mean that with a 100%. with a 1000%
