I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but for Berilio: if you're worried about learning painting techniques, I would say *don't* buy GW models to practice. Buy [or print] some cheap TTRPG/historical or off-brand military wargame models to practice painting. A little pack of skeletons or bandits or goblins from Reaper's plastic line are like $10 and will give you a few little infantry guys to practice on. Alternately, when you start painting your actual army, start with the low-point-cost infantry/troop units. These don't have to be as detailed and won't be on the board for as long, so if the paint job isn't great, it's fine. Save the characters and vehicles for later on.
I made the pseudo mistake of starting Death Guard with the Combat Patrol and 30 pox walkers made for a real nice trash unit to figure out the basics on. No one will ever look closely at them or care to pick out mistakes on sub 10 point per unit zombies.
Reaper minis are a great practice medium. As are the heroquest minis. Slightly smaller the GW minis, so their orks feel so much more forgiving once you're used to practicing on HQ ones.
I say paint the thing you're most excited about painting. The HQ models are generally larger, so that bonus should make up for some of the increased detail. It's all about building technique and motor skill in the beginning. As you improve, and this is going to continuously happen, you're going to realize you could've done a better job on all of it. As long as you don't paint on thick layers of paint as you're learning, you can always revisit your first models. You can just add some shading or highlights, improve your blends or just clean up some slop by painting on the model later. Models are also pretty easy to strip if you want to start from square one and do a better job. Just paint whatever you're excited to paint and don't be afraid of it. Watch some tutorials and ask advice when you have a specific question. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me why people are resigned to doing a bad job on their first model and leaving it that way forever.
This comment is a vibe. many painting sessions canceled because there was no new background ambience. What am I supposed to do, paint alone? feth that.
I genuinely hate most Q&A episodes. This shit had me rolling in my chair laughing. Great job all of you. P. S. My GF says I'm crushing because I rang the bell and listen to your episodes in under 24 hours of release. I don't see it but if you could do an ASMR video it'd go a long way to prove me right.
At 1:45:00 - on the topic of crafting injuries and not seeking medical attention - I can definitely understand not wanting to go to the ER with a great unclean one superglued to your hand.
I guarantee there is some first responder out there that had a call for someone "sitting" on their great unclean one and needing to get it extracted, shall we say. You should have no embarrassment just getting it glued to your hand.
I love how 90% of people who ‘recently’ got into Warhammer all have the same origin point to some degree. It can almost always be summarised as: 1:06:05 *“BLAME BRICKY”*
I would argue that most of the English speaking world who got into 40k with the start of 10th edition can trace their beginnings to Bricky. If you think about it, that man probably did more to raise the GW share piece than anyone at the company.
Well now I feel old. I got into 40k by pure happenstance as my father and I walked past a GW shop in a mall at one point and walked out with a starter box and some paint. That was well before RU-vid or influencers or any of this social media crap was a thing, so it was pretty interesting walking into a store seeing people play, paint, and otherwise just hang out talking shop about the game and hobby.
@@soffrenI mean those videos are only what 1 to 2 years old now? There's fans that have been around far longer, I got into it at 15 through a school friend and we started playing at our local GW shop so yeah there's a ton of fans that were around long before Bricky was a thing
Congratulations again, guys! I'm glad to see Berilio isn't caged downstairs without seeing the outside world sometimes. Keep up the great work! Can't wait to see your Forge Wardrobe merch
For the question on if you can paint named characters in other color schemes remember, its not Belisarius Cawl, its your original character Bobisarius Car who just uses the same rules as him.
As both a MTG and 40k player, I just realized that "Rhinos are free" applies to both games if you play Crashing Footfalls and some form of Space Marines
I love you guys, it feels like I'm just hanging out with the bros. I hope Berilio comes on again and updates us on his Death Guard, kind of hilarious he's just starting and going to have more painted models than me soon (I have 5kish points of DG and have painted 1 Poxwalker over the course of 5 years)
The thing I learn really fast when getting into 40k painting is: "Free time is expensive". As someone who works 5-6 days a week, it's so difficult to actually have a good day to sit down, find some good background noise and start painting.
An advice for Berilio and other hesitante players. Maybe start with Kill Team first. You can buy a box of the Kill Team you want and paint it up. You normaly only need one box and the rules are all online. Also Death Guard are pretty good in kill Team and kinda fluffy actually (i have a Team of my own). Playing Kill Team also helped me to better understand GW rulesets.
+1 for Killteam. I found it was great for painting as well for me, cause it's not as intimidating, and since you are only painting a couple of dudes, you can afford to spend more time per model, so you improve more. Depending on the KT, it can even segway into a full army.
As someone new to the hobby who doesn't know the models by name, I have a newfound appreciation for the editing work to bring the visual references. They are so helpful and thank you for taking the time to include them!
I didn't realize you guys were from Michigan! Our state is definitely one of the states of all time. Congrats on 40K subs, you guys definitely deserve it.
I honestly just love this podcast helped me get into the hobby as you guys didn’t make it intimidating also a great thing to have in the background while I’m painting the start of my first army
As someone who suffered from severe debilitating OCD but who has overcome most all of the ticks, the question about spending 2 hours on each Hormagaunt hits hard
I just started listening to you guys a couple of weeks ago, and I’ve loved it ever since. It’s hilarious because I am also auto based in Michigan! Keep up the good work!
1:25:25 Similar situation. My mom had tried getting me to become friends with this other boy around my age when I was growing up, and a few years later my sister tried getting me to become friends with her friend's little brother. I ended up becoming friends with both of them years later completely independently by chance
To Berillio: I started painting my Death Guard army a month ago with 0 previous experience in painting models (or painting anything for that matter). I found them so fun to paint, I just kept polishing the same models long after I considered them "done" initially. I can't imagine I would have had the same amount of fun and passion, had I started with a random space marine or a necron to practice on, given how I find painting the same model 5 times over excruciatingly boring. Death Guard have a lot to give if you want a fun painting experience, while being really forgiving if you mess up (they're supposed to be dirty and grimy, right?). There's also a lot of truth to "If you wanna get good at X, do X"; paint your Nurgle-blessed boys and you'll get better at it really quickly. Just remember to always, ALWAYS thin your paints (I think there's some good montages on RU-vid of what happens if you don't).
goddamn I'm envious of your gaming crew, due to leaving my home city for studies I ended up with like 7 battlesystems and many more armies that I want to play but have noone to play with. One day I literally got drunk and played some naopleonic system alone on the floor of my bedroom, and thanks to extreme levels of alcohol in my blood I actually could not predict the next move of the opponent (me). Do not attempt this at home, please.
congratulations on the milestone... and I guess I am the only one who listens to the youtube video's on Saturday's... its a great background to have on while I am painting... love the commentary...
Loved this ephisode. Totally new to warhammer still planning my first army while knocking out my painting backlog. Been enjoying the podcast with my painting time. Would love to hear the ephisode about other warhammer content reccomendations! Thanks, and good job.
On the subject of audio volume, personally I think louder the better. Can always turn the volume down but having the loudest option is great for people like me who want to listen while running heavy machinery at work. Even at max volume on the radio in the excavator/loader/etc. I can't hear 90% of youtube videos.
One thing I want to chime in on though is the additive edits. From the description of the Brazilian style podcast I think that would be way way too heavy. I don’t need some video of some guy screaming smashed in, but the blend that’s in the current videos? So good. Also hilarious thumbnail cut!!!!
Regarding the painting question at the end, it also depends what faction you paint. I believe you could easily get away with having Raven Guard army - spray everything black (except sergeant helmets and heads without helmets), add white chapter marking from transfer sheet onto pauldrons, spray sergeant helmets white and paint helmet-less models heads. If you want variety for special models, just reverse colours (white body and black sergeant helmet + insignia) Done, you used two cans of paint and actually painted only a couple of heads + added transfer sheets. Yes, it could be done with more effort, but three-colour armies can work with no problem and in few cases, such as raven guard, it can work with two colours.
I missed your guys bantering, love the pod casts and I greatly enjoy everything you guys do. Also, I am weird for like regular painting? I tried dry brushing and found I enjoy the normal paint and brush technique XD
I love Auspex but you nailed his aesthetic style, but I also agree that it can be a little info dense. If I want a direct reference and intricacies of rules interactions, I'll go there. As someone who enjoys the more nuanced levels of gameplay, your channel still takes top tier for me
This is one of the best episodes of poorhammer. I’ve only been following for a couple months but its always great listening to you guys shoot the shit. Plus berilio’s rad too (Ps you guys got bonus points for shitting on destiny 2. Saying this as someone that has too many hours)
Go with Death Guard, by the time you are done, the codex will be out, and the game will also be easier to learn with a simple index. Also painting Poxwalkers to learn is awesome.
Congrats again guys! I know it's too late for the Q&A, but I have a question for you guys. You mentioned how, if AoS had better models when you were looking to get into the game, you would have never touched 40k. After playing the game for several years, are you glad you decided to play 40k? Or do you still wish you had been able to get into AoS as your first game?
Minor correction that doesn't matter from the wound story, Reaper is generally PVC unless it's the Black or Made in the USA line. V fexible but technically diff material than finecast resin.
I had a few armies over the years. Started with Space Marines from the Battle for Maccrage starter box back in 4th, then moved over to Tyranids during 7th because I wanted to challenge myself with an army that was pretty objectively bad during that time. Then moved over to Tempestus Scions as the idea of an entire army of SAS style super troopers sounded really cool, results were varied but the army looked great and I had a Taurox Prime painted as the Union Jack. Ended with Eldar in 8th-9th because Space Elves seemed like a good idea. It was not as good an idea as I thought. Blood Ravens, Behemoth, and custom colors for the last 2. Sadly I don't play 40k as much, but I kept a lot of the nicer models as shelf decorations.
Hope in the future you can show us some of your 3d printed models. I'd love to see the difference between your takes and GW's. Otherwise thanks for another great episode.
I had a silver 2000 BMW 528i from 2017-2023. It only had a CD player, no AUX cord or radio. From 2018-2023 I had a CD of the album Mellow Gold by Beck playing on repeat. It drove my friends, family, and girlfriend insane, but I never had the desire to change it lol
Wow, if you work for Ford there's a huge chance we may have bumped into each other 😂 Also thank you for being the voice of reason on Boltgun. As far as retro shooters there are better doom mods for free.
That Hormagaunt Model question landed near me; I got into my first army with the Leviathan box set and although I've only primed and first layered nearly all of them, It certainly takes me 5-10mins per model. The Von Ryan's Leapers I've actually spent about double that due to how much more detail they have + they're larger. I've got some ideas on how to finish them but basically it involves a wash on most of each model and maybe drybrushing the carapace bits with a different shade of the same colour.
If you haven't done all your pre work for your other games episode, you might try Bàttletech? Both Classic and Alpha Strike have solid free starter rules and the starter boxes are in the $70-80 range. Very much feels like the sort of stuff you talk about wanting to see in 40k.
The infinite and divine episode may have flopped, but it made me binge the book so I could listen to the episode, which resulted in me hearing a great audiobook.
Since you seem to like audio books more than lore I recommend listening to baldemort. He adds in a bunch of original stories into his lore videos that help better explain the topic. Some of them are even continuous stories that he has several multi hour compilations of the story so far.
I always bring my kill team book, necromunda book and some gangs. Sometimes pickup games take awhile to get going...we can talk about necromunda and kill team rules for an hour before we roll dice.the game might take 45 minutes or an hour
So nice to know us "you only listen to these 5 songs what is wrong with you" husbands are not alone. My wife is so tired of Revolutions from FFXIV and Undefeatable from Sonic Frontiers. She unplugged my speaker the other day.
Just started picking up models and getting into this hobby. Thanks for all the advice. My Timmy side still screams play and paint death gaurd first. Though I should do necrons probably.
Oh my gods...I've been trying to nail down why Brad sounds SO familiar. I thought it was like, an old WoW podcast...but I grew up in Detroit, and worked in the automotive industry, including on testing assembly lines for years.
If its any consideration, I’m still (lazily) behind on reading Infinite and the Divine but have skipped on all podcasts and YT lore about it just so yalls episode could be the first one I get a reading of with it! I’m just too poor for the audiobook outright and dont wanna give amazon any more money for an audible subscription
18:57 if borelio is worried about not knowing how to paint go to your local official GW store and ask for a paint lesson. Me and my gf went we both got a mini already built and primed (one black one white) and we both got to practice base coats and learned about the paints and we kept the models for free. Was a great experience honestly.
A simple overhead camera looking straight down at the table (go pro?) - would work pretty well for an *intro* video for new-ish players - just covering basic mechanics, etc.
1:04:14 like Brad, my grandpa also designed assembly lines for computer assembly about 20 years ago and weirdly; like Eric, he fell into computer science despite if not being his starting point
Wich Maniac puts a Potato on a Pizza? I understand when Americans Order a Pepperoni Pizza and Get disapointet because they are the only one who give a Sausage a Plant name. But Potato? That's Heresy!
For more streams and community interaction: A more public discord?. I'd be very interested in a discord server. Also, what IS the most played videogame by Brad? For me it was WoW, gotta be close to 20k hours on that. Glad I quit awhile back. My answer for faction from the larger lore would be either the Khrave or the Rak'Gol. A more explicitly elite Xenos faction, something more like Custodes in terms of price per model both IRL and in points. I'd be particularly interested to see the Khrave, or even let loose those Krorks from Trazyn's vault so we'd have super elite Ork unit that can be used as an auxiliary.
I want you to know I just saw your comment and choked on my drink, enjoy a discussion from this week's episode we recorded the day before you posted this comment lol, Rak'Gols smh
Aah Eric, a man after my own heart. What do I play in 40k? Orks. What do I play in AoS? Orks. What do I play in Middle Earth? Orcs. What do I play in World of Warcraft? Goblins, but that’s besides the point.
I don’t think I have ever listened so many times to both the podcast and RU-vid version of a video as much as I did for this one! (Like at least 4times)😅Also never have I wanted to draw fanart more than rn 😂
Potato (note that potato doesn't mean fries) is actually a typical pizza ingredient for pizza in Italy. It's relatively common in Rome. And when done good it's really good.
I love board games, and most of my friends who I play with are very competitive but we have a few who aren't. The best way I've found to bring them together is to play co-op games. The competitiveness works together.
To get a down and dirty 3 color paint scheme, prime in a base color spray can paint/primer combo, pick one detail to hit with an accent color spray paint, and spray weapons with black or silver spray paint. Basic AF, but functional.