Maybe is because in japanese there is no thing as a "Mirror force archetype" since all the cards that have that name in english have " xxxx barrier - yyyyy force" in japanese, I suppose that it would be difficult to give a card the ability to search every card with that description.
Well, during Duelist Kingdom, the top screen allowed you to see what was on the opponents field. So the fact that Weevil didn't notice that Yugi had a facedown is his own fault.
Fun note: during duelist kingdom whenever a monster is destroyed by an effect the controller takes half its ATK as damage meaning mirror force would double as a burn card
Do the math. Whatever monster is attacking and Yugi uses mirror force the damage is actually that monsters attack points against all other opponents monsters. In the pegasus duel it's easy to figure out the math cuz it's summoned skulls attack against red archer archery girl
The best part of Vrains to me will always be when Revolver was shown to have this super OP mystery card, only for it to turn out to be Mirror Force. Then from that point on they kept having him bring out old school trap cards like Magic Cylinder, Imperial Order, and even Mind Crush.
In Duelist Kingdom, it wasn't Mirror Force that damaged Weevil. In the DK rule (yes there were some) if a monster is destroyed by a card effect the player takes damage equal to half of the monster(s) ATK points.
@@averytubestudios take note of the duels in DK, there were never any direct attacks. They weren't allowed, so damage had to be done other ways besides just attacking a weaker monster in attack position
Janith Ernest I have the same issues in DL since Drowning Mirror Force is part of the meta I'm always worried to attack so I set some of my important monsters to defense.
I remember when I was in school before I learned how to play the game, I attacked and my classmate activated Mirror force and he said that the card reflected the damage back to me (like magic cylinder) then I chained my own mirror force (It was probably set that turn idk) to reflect it back once more, I thought that it was a good play.
Well, if you are surrounded with super-specific one-in-a-million cards that only work in this exact situation, a card that simply blows everything up may seem quite OP. There was this one card in 5D's, "Different Dimension Barrier - Lost Force". It was basically magical cylinder - as in, it had the exact same effect: negate the attack and do damage equal to the ATK of the monster - but you could only activate it if in the same turn, before the attack, a monster was removed from your field without getting destroyed. Or the duel between Yuma and Girag. Almost all of Girag's card's where stupidly specific with very little payoff. And don't get me started on Yusei...
DK Yugioh made shit up as they went along like the Paradox Brothers duel or attacking a magic card or using a magic card to fuse a monster to another monster and using and infinite supply of kuribohs to stave off attacks only to revive one of the dragon heads to full attack
I think the "sneaky" play was because he couldn't get a real word in so he played his turn normally while weavil kept talking and running his mouth, was it underhanded yes...was it techically legal...techically with how I think it was played out.
also werent face down cards visible on the field in the anime like you could see your opponent has a backfield. weevil should have been able to see a face down card appear on yugis side and it wouldnt be sneaky. weevil is just to arrogant to take the duel serious and didnt care what his opponent played that turn
Why would storming be the best when drowning can shove the cards back into the deck storming only does it for the hand there are many cards that benefit from on hand effects so the opponent can just do there combo all over again but this can't be said about putting the cards back into the deck with the added fact shuffling this can mess with there chance to get the cards they need
@@fork-man Drowning requires a direct attack. Storming doesn’t. Battle traps are already really bad in modern Yugioh but requiring a direct attack makes them even worse.
The way it appeared in Vrains made me laugh so hard. Like oh no what could thus mysterious new card be thats so devastating and it's just mirror force? So no one in this universe has ever seen this card before? The way they hyped it up i thought i would have been something different.
I actually loved that because against Ghost Girl, Ghost Girl attacked and then had all her monsters destroyed, so to me it was obvious and I loved that it was getting the royal treatment
I could say that Mirror Force Launcher technically work in some decks’ favor because you can discard a monster that can summon itself out the graveyard and continue your combos that way.
Shining silver force makes sense because, as a little trivia, mirrors used to be backed with silver to give them their reflective quality. We have since found other ways of doing it, but mirrors used to be made with silver, so silver force being a mirror force card makes sense.
Ranking very mirror force card from level power form worst to best 8: shining silver force 7:dark mirror force 6:radiant mirror force 5: drowning mirror force 4: mirror force 3:blazing mirror force 2:quaking mirror force 1: storming mirror force BTW I am not sure about the placement of quaking and drowning since they are weird compared to the others where drowning isnt as versatile since yoyiu need to control no monsters and quaking just doesn't effect link monsters
@@chrisallen9296 but drowning requires a direct attack. Battle traps are bad enough already but specifically requiring a direct attack is much worse than just declaring an attack.
Considering they’re using dueling machines it might be a case similar to Yugioh games/dueling simulators, so it’s Weavil’s fault for not paying attention.
I feel like you got the divine and light attributes mixed up. Radiant Mirror Force seems to be more in line with Divine beasts requiring 3 tributes, hence the requirement for 3 attack position monsters for its use. Shining Mirror Force is more in line with the whole light fairy counter trap Sanctuary in the Sky theme
Personally I think the OG Mirror Force, based on it's japanese name is supposed to be the light inspired one, while yeah, Radiant is the Divine one, and Shining is more a support or inspired card (still has force and barrier in japanese, but isn't a regular trap like the others, nor does it activate on attack declaration).
I personally believe the OG mirror force is meant to not have an attribute. In GX there’s the clear arctype whose gimmick is that they have no attribute as they’re see through. Since mirror force in Japan is the only one with “mirror” in the name it can be assumed that it was meant to be see a non attributable version.
Dark Mirror Force would've been better and seen a lot more play if it affected Attack Position monsters instead of Defense Position monsters. Personally, I feel that the Mirror Force cards have different niches to fill. You wouldn't want to use Storming Mirror Force against a Deck that relies heavily on Summoning from the hand or the standard Mirror Force against a Graveyard oriented deck.
Dark mirror force is the best in a lot of situations because it punishes your opponent for trying to work around mirror force, or can ruin a defensive deck
During the duelist kingdom arc of Yu-Gi-Oh duel monsters, the fields where you place your cards on had a screen on top showing the opponents field. So technically yugi didn't do a misplay. It's just weevils fault he didn't notice yugi set a card, THEN he could've responded. Other than that I don't see how yugi performed anything wrong.
Weevil was overconfident. Truthfully, with the acces to cards they had in the anime, you couldn't really remove the monsters he used that easily. The decks were very specialized. Splashable cards weren't really that available.
The divine mirror force perfectly represent the God cards. When the gods are summoned they can't be affect by card effects on the turn they 're summoned.
Well, no, cards/ effects can't be activated in response to their normal summon, and their normal summon can't be negated, but they aren't protected beyond that, except for Obelisk also having the effect that it can't be targeted by the opponent's card effects. But while you can't trap hole/ torrential tribute them, since those activate in response to the summoning, you can absolutely pop them with Mirror Force or Card Crush/ Deck Devastation Virus even on that same turn.
I think the dub turned what was actually a sort of montage of multiple turns going by into just the one turn. Either that or it’s Duelist Kingdom having less defined rules like with all the other shenanigans Yugi got up to in season one.
Idk about the anime but in the manga, weevil attacked and set one card and passed then in yugi's turn, he set mirror force and passed so it was legal play. Weevil also took multiple turns to built his board without attacking so yugi could have set mirror in between those turns anyway.
@@mttic55 What rules? They made shit up out of nowhere like Mammoth Graveyard being fuse to Ult Dragon, the Paradox Bros duel, or the end of Panics duel
I can’t lie when Revolver used mirror force for the first time I was like “OH SHIT” and just purely shocked and then thought “Man what kind of cheese is this?” 😂
Mirror Force was the first UR i ever pulled in a physical pack. It will always have a place in my heart. With that said, Quaking Mirror Force is probably my favorite card in the archetype. I love cards that force monsters face down and remove the ability to flip them back face up.
Now we have Dark Magic Mirror Force coming out as part new support for the Shining Sarcophagus archetype, specifically for the Dark Magician retrained monster.
i love drowning. in duel links its saved my butt so many times against the combo decks that wipe my monsters out before going for kill. they either play smart and destroy the trap or stupid and watch their precious synchro and xyz go back to the extra deck leaving them open for a beatdown.
My lord, mirror force dragon was such a beast when i played yugioh at school... Everyone has an out, but if you can draw these cards is another story, and even if you do, it's gonna blow up your field... My personal out was bloom diva the melodious choir
I really love Quaking Mirror Force. You just waste your opponent's monster zones with face down monsters they can do very little with. It is also non-targeting which is a nice bonus.
As far as the fairness level of yugi setting Mirror Force on his opponent's turn, Weevil tossed Exodia off the side of a boat and by proxy nearly caused his best friend to drown while trying to recover them. Between slyly setting the card here and the Monsta Cardo episode later, yugi got even.
That was actually how Duelist Kingdom worked. Pegasus straight up made the rules for his tournament "If you think it'd make sense for it to happen if it was real, then go for it!"
Whenever I think of Mirror Force appearing in the anime I think of 5Ds when Crow has it set but doesn't use it and loses the duel as a result but it was to boost the guys confidence or something
My order of best to worse storming mirror force, quaking mirror force, drowning mirror force, og mirror force, blazing mirror force, radiant mirror force, shining sliver force, and dark mirror force
Back in '08 - '09 Mirror Force could've gotten you a hefty sum. I was at a Locals and the shop was looking to pay 40 dollars for a Mirror Force back then.
My cousin and I would duel and I would occasionally set some cards face down early on. Funny thing is I do have mirror force in my deck. So some times I have 3 or more often 5 Set traps when he does for an attack. Me: Alright ok... so... what will it be today? Mirror Force... Mirror Force or Mirror Force?! Oooohhh I like that last option. Cousin: Do you really have Mirror Force set? Me: Hold on... well it think it's a possibility.
the 4 kids dub didnt explain this but in japan at the star of duelist kingdo it says you take lp damedge from destroyed monsters based on attack points if i remember right
Drowning mirror force is the best cause things rarely negate shuffling back into the deck next would be wind as it returns too hand but that only means Ur oponent can pop off again tho the earth and dark mirror force would work well
7- Radiant Mirror Force, Only activates if your opponent has 3 or more attack position monsters 6- Dark Mirror Force, only punishes opponents who wants to play defensive and Super Heavy Samurai decks The list gets harder to rank, as the other mirror forces are great In their own ways 5- Mirror Force, while it can be searched, it just has the base mirror Force effect, but it has a ton of nostalgia 4- Storming Mirror Force, It only returns them to hand, punishing mostly extra deck monsters 3- Quaking mirror Force, It sets the monsters facedown permanently, making them unusual for most summons 2- Blazing Mirror Force, Not only does it destroy the monsters it also does damage, giving the chance to actually end duels with it 1- Drowning mirror Force, while it could be obvious sometimes, other times it can be used as a last resort if your opponent kills all of your monsters during the battle phase and thinks they can just go for game. The last 4 are amazing in their own rights, and are practically interchangeable, but some are just more game ending than others, and they have their own weaknesses, Storming only returns to hand, not hurting decks like monarchs much, Blazing is a destruction effect and can be ignored, plus if your opponent runs effect damage negation the card dies, Quaking Doesn't stop Fusion, Tribute and I think ritual summons, and Drowning only works on direct attacks
How each element mirror force match each attribute: Blazing: Deals effect damage to both players, which we call "burn" damage so it's painful and damaging like fire🔥. Dark: Banishes all defense monsters, which can be seen as attacking the helpless which is a dark move⚫. Drowning: Sends direct attack monsters to the deck, which can be imagined as being pushed back by a flood💧. Quaking: Permanently chages attack monsters face down, which is basically barying them beneath the ground🌎. Radiant: Destroyes all attack monsters if there's 3 or more, weaker OG version, but it's still viewed as reflecting light💡. Storming: Sends attacking monsters to the hand, which can be imagined as being lifted up by a tornado🌪. Shining: Counter trap that negates trap damage and destroyes face up S/T, can be considered as an act of God 😇.
