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ZMF Aeolus Sound Review 

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EqualizerAPO EQ Preset (stock leather pads):
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Preamp: -2 dB
Filter 5: ON LS Fc 100 Hz Gain 2 dB
Filter 10: ON PK Fc 6000 Hz Gain -2 dB Q 2
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@cmercerelli
@cmercerelli 4 года назад
I have the Aeolus and I think your review of them was spot on.
@jannr233
@jannr233 4 года назад
Thanks metal for the nice review. Owning Aeolus myself - got them on preorder for 1k$. Using them with a 789 but where they really shine is on a tube amp. Just recently got a Eddie Current ZDT Jr. - with some rolled Telefunken tubes and the realistic sound your are talking about gets even better and the bass gets a little bump. Also instruments just seem to be even better separated and have more air around them compared to the 789. Although you don't own the Aeolus your Atticus may have a similar profit from a tube amp because of the same driver. So maybe something you may wanna get into ;-). Concerning pads I have a similar experience. Although I also got he perf. suede pads I prefer listening with the stock pads because the midrange and the bass are just so addictive to me with the stock pad. Looking forward to your other ZMF reviews.
@steven2640
@steven2640 4 года назад
I'm a new Verite owner and it's the best open back that I've heard though it like 99% of headphones should not be over $2k. Still I can't help but want to hear the Aeolus. If it can get you ~90% of the Verite's detail at less than half the cost with a pleasing tonality then it could be an endgame (a hilarious concept in the audiophile community) for most. Thanks for making the best headphone reviews Metal.
@palefaced1
@palefaced1 2 года назад
I have both. The aolus is warm as hell, but very pleasant.
@metal571
@metal571 2 года назад
It's awesome. I ordered one for myself recently finally, and it should be done soon
@hasanahmad4684
@hasanahmad4684 2 года назад
@@metal571 hey whats the difference between the atticus and aeolus? Also are vocals recessed? How do the vocals compare to hd6xx/650? You said the Soundstage is small on the aeolus so is it even worse on the atticus? Thanks!
@kkrusher77
@kkrusher77 4 года назад
Just bought a used pair because of this video! I am super excited to get them
@briandorsey6437
@briandorsey6437 4 года назад
How are you liking them so far?
@muslimsfortulsigabbard8646
@muslimsfortulsigabbard8646 4 года назад
@@briandorsey6437 Awesome :)
@metal571
@metal571 3 года назад
It can definitely take quite a while. Zach is often overwhelmed with orders. I forget exactly how long my Atticus took but it was at least 6 weeks
@hayesjohnny
@hayesjohnny 4 года назад
Great review!!!
@mark_reviews-reddit
@mark_reviews-reddit 4 года назад
Best reviewer out there.
@bunozen1
@bunozen1 4 года назад
Eventually I will try a ZMF headphone. I love the bio cellulose drivers, and Zack uses these drivers a lot. It’s a big plus.
@dnalekaw4699
@dnalekaw4699 4 года назад
I think you may be mistaken. These TPE drivers are only used in two headphones, the Atticus and Aeolus; Zach's biocellulose drivers are only used in the Eikon and Auteur.
@bunozen1
@bunozen1 4 года назад
That’s what I meant. They are their best seller drivers.
@Catkat2907
@Catkat2907 4 года назад
It sounded so good when i tried it. I borrowed it for a week in a local audio store. Excited what you think about it.
@dnalekaw4699
@dnalekaw4699 4 года назад
Acorn?
@dasninjastix
@dasninjastix 3 года назад
I ordered them in December of 2020 and got them a week ago, so pretty much 3 full months of wait. It was worth it imo, for me at least. I have the stock and perferated suede, I prefer the suede at the moment but everything is still breaking in. I think the Aeolus is the 70s Rock of headphones. Sound is big, forceful, natural, and full bodied. To me they sound semi-closed at moderate volume and above. For my tastes I do not want more detail than the Aeolus offer. I like how smooth they are, I like the warmth, combined with the clarity and forwardness of the sound. I don't think I disagree with anything from your assessment so this comment is just to support your experiences with them for any prospective buyers. I think you nail pretty much everything I've experienced in my first week and half of ownership (but constant use). I think the performance justifies the price, along with the "specialness" of owning a ZMF in terms of the wood (the sapele is gorgeous) and warranty but man.. it's a long a$$ wait.
@metal571
@metal571 3 года назад
Yeah compared to my darling LCD-2, the Aeolus is not as high resolution, but it is a *very* special headphone. The price is high relative to what it delivers in a technical aspect - but like you said, the lifetime warranty support is awesome. Zach is one of the most pleasant humans I have ever interacted with and he is a master of woodworking. To this day, I debate ordering one...
@dasninjastix
@dasninjastix 3 года назад
@@metal571 heh, Bert Reviews has me wanting to order an Eikon as well. That's going to be hard sell to wife though. The Aeolus has been a so much fun I don't know that I really need anything else but it would be cool to have a closed back option from ZMF as well.
@octagest
@octagest 4 года назад
Is there anything you'd recommend over this as a direct upgrade from the HD650? Just want to make sure I'm spending that amount of money in the right place.
@ignicioperez4647
@ignicioperez4647 6 месяцев назад
Hello, thanks a lot for a very good and useful review. How would the Aeolus compare to the Focal Clear MG and the Hifiman Ananda? I ask because I'm planning to upgrade my Ananda with the Aeolus (I'm also considering the Focal), and use them with a Naim Atom Uniti Headphone amp. I listen mainly to classical, jazz and to a lesser extent, folk and acoustic. Best regards, Ignacio
@mementos24
@mementos24 4 года назад
Your description of the sound (appart from the 6k peak) really reminds me of m'y favorite headphones the oppo pm-1....which I sold and probably will buy again. Can you compare the two ?! Great review btw!
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
I've heard the pmx2 before but not the original pm1 or pm2. Probably somewhat similar, but I seem to remember there being even more of a mid treble peak in the oppos
@xbbyfit9602
@xbbyfit9602 4 года назад
Still rocking the HD 380s I see, I've had mine since 2011 and still love them. Just got some HD 300 pros and they're great, not as flat but definitely a worthy successor.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Good as a studio monitor which is what I'm using them for
@pennfootball71
@pennfootball71 4 года назад
Great review I just bought a pair and still waiting. one thing to mention is you have to wait 4-5 weeks to get the things after you pay in full up front!
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Whoops yeah my Atticus took about 6 weeks forgot to mention that
@angusvanhalen2886
@angusvanhalen2886 4 года назад
metal571 ughhh thanks for that bit of info. That’s a big deal to me. I don’t get stuff from Drop after a couple long waits. When I buy expensive ‘phones (not often) i pay for next day shipping.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
@@angusvanhalen2886 this is a little different in that Zach actually has to hand make your headphone once you place your order. He doesn't keep much in stock as far as I'm aware. Drop just intentionally delays at this point, I swear...
@dnalekaw4699
@dnalekaw4699 4 года назад
My ZMF Classic took over 12 weeks. I didn't care at all about the wait however as a short delivery time is not something I'm fussed about when your cans are being hand built and tweaked.
@bertrandbouillez3227
@bertrandbouillez3227 2 года назад
Hi, is it a good choice to listen to symphonic or power metal? Thanks Very good Review !!!!
@wcg66
@wcg66 4 года назад
Great review. I prefer the Verite pads with my Aeolus (I bet you’ll like the soundstage better with these). These headphones really grow on you.
@davidhodgin8900
@davidhodgin8900 4 года назад
another video another room change. I like the new look and colors.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
It's been the same for the past few now. Just better lighting and a new cam. Thanks
@BunnyslippersEUC
@BunnyslippersEUC 4 года назад
Metal...finally headphones you like without equalization. Usually you don't like anything. I kidd kidd...don't shoot me.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
If you want to watch me gush watch the LCD4 review lol
@BunnyslippersEUC
@BunnyslippersEUC 4 года назад
@@metal571 Ok ok enough about the LCD4. I will watch your review again. Always the LCD4 with you. Maybe I will demo the LCD4 at a Hifi show in September.
@kentbergstrom3020
@kentbergstrom3020 9 месяцев назад
Hi, I wonder if you have a EQ Preset for the Perforated Suede pads as well?
@morbue7575
@morbue7575 4 года назад
i was looking into the aeolus, i am currently on the hd58x and i am in the drop for the thx 789 aaa, what kind of headphones should i look into if i want something really fun with some nice bass budget ist 1000-1600 usd, would love to hear what you would recommand ! great video
@memberrrberry7282
@memberrrberry7282 4 года назад
Bokyu Audeze Lcd-2c
@kirjuschaks
@kirjuschaks 4 года назад
pioneer monitor 10 (1978) review would be nice^^ there are lots of used stuff out in usa, top quallity and built.
@c4monkey
@c4monkey 4 года назад
I liked my blackwood auteur with stock pads over the aeolus (stock or suede). There was more quantity of bass but felt it didn't have the vocal clarity or natural sounding timbre or the smooth but detailed highs of the auteur.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
I'm getting ahead of myself but yeah the more dipped upper mids here are restored quite well by the Auteur so I'd definitely agree with that
@c4monkey
@c4monkey 4 года назад
@@metal571 I sold my auteur recently bc I've been needing to down size. So I have my 6xx with your eq (Thanks btw) and denon 7200 that I got for a good deal but on the inside I was hoping the person that bought the auteur would request a refund
@azh590
@azh590 4 года назад
Is this the natural upgrade for an Ebony TH-X00? Currently own HD598, HD600, HD650, TH-X00 Mahogany, TH-X00 Ebony and a Focal Elear. The Ebony is my favorite with the HD600 and Elear tied for second. Love your reviews man!
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
I'd say Auteur is more of the direct upgrade considering the bass slam that the X00 has
@rhodey2952
@rhodey2952 4 года назад
Andy Norton did u ever pick up this or a different zmf?
@universeman657
@universeman657 Год назад
I just got some used, and I agree with most of this. I do think tubes help solve the soundstage issue, much like the hd6xx series. Actually quite a large improvement in that case.
@deshan79
@deshan79 4 года назад
What is your take on tube amps? I know you prefer warmer headphones so was curious if you dabble in those or just stick to solid state.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Nah not really, amps and DACs can change the sound but a lot of the time in my experience it's a fairly small change for such an expense
@deshan79
@deshan79 4 года назад
Can't wait for auteur vs aeolous comparison, I wish to own one of these someday unless he comes out with another that grabs my attention instead. I want the pair that has best combo of Slam, bass extension, and vocals.
@propender7311
@propender7311 4 года назад
The Elex does all that imo and it's much cheaper. But it's also brighter than the ZMFs
@davidmason8212
@davidmason8212 4 года назад
Very good new camera Wide angle 60fps Excellent advantage for the channel keep going
@dnalekaw4699
@dnalekaw4699 4 года назад
As far as I know, the Aeolus pads have a different density foam compared with the lambskin perforated universe pads, with everything else the same.
@ZMFheadphones
@ZMFheadphones 4 года назад
Yep that's the difference! Slightly denser foam and slightly thinner lambskin. The universe perf pads will work and sound in between the universe perf suede a d aeolus pads.
@eternalchange5496
@eternalchange5496 4 года назад
The fact an innocent lamb had to be slaughtered and skinned automatically disqualifies those headphones for me.
@dnalekaw4699
@dnalekaw4699 4 года назад
@@eternalchange5496 luckily, an all-suede vegan option is available
@jamesstevens968
@jamesstevens968 4 года назад
Hi metal if you had to pick one for games or movies. What would you get beyerdynamics t1 or the sennheiser hd660s your the headphone pro please let me know thankyou very much for your opinion
@vincenthusvh
@vincenthusvh 4 года назад
Take the Beyerdynamic. Better imaging and bass
@dr.zoidberg4313
@dr.zoidberg4313 4 года назад
Given your affinity for EQ, have you considered the RME ADI-2 DAC?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
That's damned expensive compared to using open source software is how I see it
@redhairshanks3954
@redhairshanks3954 4 года назад
You said after hearing the ZMF Aeolus you changed your eq setting for the Audeze LCD 2 what did you change?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
The upper midrange is notoriously difficult to EQ since it can vary slightly from unit to unit, so I mainly moved the upper mid peak filter center frequency
@perdana5786
@perdana5786 4 года назад
Hey, @metal571 do you know of the existance of linear phase eq? I think you should look into it.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Yep I know of it. Not needed
@dizzylizzy2851
@dizzylizzy2851 4 года назад
Hi. What headphones are you wearing and why those please. I like your reviews. Thanks from Oz 🙏
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
HD 380 Pro
@dizzylizzy2851
@dizzylizzy2851 4 года назад
metal571 thanks 🙏
@Chase-yg5no
@Chase-yg5no 4 года назад
Now I can't help but call it the EEEH YOOOO LISSS
@ewso100
@ewso100 3 года назад
Did you ever get a chance to hear Vérité open/closed?
@miked3058
@miked3058 4 года назад
Hey Metal it's been a while. Right now I have the Verite. I would be interested in hearing your opinion on them, especially in comparison to the other ZMF's, even the LCD 4 and Empyrean.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Unfortunately I don't have an LCD4 or empyrean on loan but I'll see if I can track one of those down when I do get one
@NiSHAN256
@NiSHAN256 4 года назад
In terms of speed are they comparable to the hd660 and dt1990?
@vincenthusvh
@vincenthusvh 4 года назад
These are faster
@jamesstevens968
@jamesstevens968 4 года назад
Hi metal. Beyerdynamics. T1 gen2 headphones are those good for games and movies or the sennheiser hd660s what headphones would sound best for games and movies i play on the ps4 with mayflower arc. Amp it can run headphones up to 600oms so is it powerful enough. For the. T1 gen 2 please let me know thankyou
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Take a look at my original T1 review, gen 2 is very similar
@eva2k0
@eva2k0 4 года назад
Would love a comparison to the clear.
@LaVey1999
@LaVey1999 2 года назад
How is the Sound Leakage? Average for Open Backs or even worse?
@StraightEdgeAlexxx31
@StraightEdgeAlexxx31 4 года назад
the only two headphones i own right now are the LCD-2C and the Aeolus and i hear more bass impact on the Aeolus... it has more quantity but the LCD-2C has slightly better extension which is to be expected
@vonStalhein2
@vonStalhein2 Год назад
How would you compare the two now?
@kato2395
@kato2395 11 месяцев назад
HMMMM.. from the sound description this sounds like a more refined Philip Fidelio X2, that was my first headphone that throw me into this rabbit hole 6 years ago, and until now I haven't been able to find the equivalent of the experience Fidelio X2 gave me. I just get the Fidelio X2 out of its box recently and it still sounded amazing even with other much more expensive headphones around in my collection.
@bigyeetus2866
@bigyeetus2866 4 года назад
So as for comfort in relation to Audeze, how does the clamp force compare between the two? I found the LCD2C to have a death grip on my skull, I know the aeolus is somewhat lighter but still on the heavier side as most high end cans tend to be.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Aeolus is way lighter, definitely not like LCD2
@bigyeetus2866
@bigyeetus2866 4 года назад
@@metal571 Awesome, think I'm gonna go with these as an upgrade from 650, figure if I want some more of the intense mids the 650 have I'll just EQ them up, just tired of trying so many headphones that don't have natural sounding timbre and tonality out of the box.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
@@bigyeetus2866 Auteur is closer to the 650's forward mids but also costs quite a bit more and the unit I reviewed with the ambrosia maple was quite a bit heavier than the sapele Aeolus here. I'd recommend the perf suede universe pads for Aeolus before trying EQ to get the mids and highs more aggressive than the quite laid back stock Aeolus pads also
@bigyeetus2866
@bigyeetus2866 4 года назад
@@metal571 Sorry I forgot to ask, both the aeolus and auteur can be adjusted to have a soft clamp right?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
@@bigyeetus2866 headband is totally bendable and customizable, check the ZMF youtube for a video about that
@fukzen
@fukzen 4 года назад
Please try verite. Mine pheasant wood sound great on xlr.
@ct1029
@ct1029 3 года назад
Did you ever manage to listen to these with the Verite or Be2 pads? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts!
@metal571
@metal571 3 года назад
Be2 no, but lambskin Verite pads help reduce the midbass hump and didn't seem to make the mids or highs overly forward either, but this is a headphone meet impression not an at-home one
@ct1029
@ct1029 3 года назад
@@metal571 good to know, thanks for the reply!
@soumyomondal4368
@soumyomondal4368 4 года назад
Hey metal what's up man ?? Pls review the Beyerdynamic T1 gen2... nobody reviews the way you do...thnks
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
That's an easy review. Great detail but way too bright
@soumyomondal4368
@soumyomondal4368 4 года назад
@@metal571 haha...I really want to hear u describe the typical beyerdynamic bright sound...u nail it absolutely with the sibilance thing...can watch u with ur glass and a headphone in hand for hours...don't get bored at at all
@chuckseeger7743
@chuckseeger7743 4 года назад
Hey boss can you try and get the HIFIMAN HE5se they went from 700$ to 280$ -369$. Im would like to know what hits harder the HE5se or the sendy aiva thanks 🙏
@dnalekaw4699
@dnalekaw4699 4 года назад
5se are aweful
@josealessandri8139
@josealessandri8139 4 года назад
which EQ software do you use? Would it work with Audirvana?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
EqualizerAPO and Peace
@PrincessPastaAudio
@PrincessPastaAudio 4 года назад
❤️
@brianpacheco1927
@brianpacheco1927 4 года назад
How would you describe their detail compared to something like an Elex or Focal Clear?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Probably somewhere between those two
@orionxavier6957
@orionxavier6957 4 года назад
I like how I only had to wait about 90 seconds to get your review on the sub-bass response which is my #1 concern. Since most headphones can't do good sub-bass. I'll pass on these. I need something that is strong down to 30 Hz, maybe 20 Hz.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
You will want a planar magnetic then. This is one reason why I kept my LCD2 over this headphone, even though it requires EQ. Audeze products routinely can reproduce bass below 20 Hz with near zero THD
@Starstreak170
@Starstreak170 4 года назад
Any possibility you'll review the Fidelio X2?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
If I'm sent one
@xphantomx4638
@xphantomx4638 4 года назад
Unrelated question... What do you think is the best way to connect your source to your DAC ?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
I always use TOSLINK whenever I can for the galvanic isolation
@xphantomx4638
@xphantomx4638 4 года назад
@@metal571 I heard that optical input requires NO drivers ? How does that work ?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
@@xphantomx4638 yeah because spdif is a standard that DACs know how to read. I mean you need the driver so that you can use the spdif out on whatever is providing the spdif signal, but other than that no USB drivers for the DAC.
@xphantomx4638
@xphantomx4638 4 года назад
@@metal571 Oh , I see... Thank you very much for the info ! But what do you mean by the driver that allows me to use spdif out ? Sorry , I've never used that kind of input before so I'm still learning.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
@@xphantomx4638 well you obviously need something that tells the computer how to communicate with the spdif card or the optical out already built into the motherboard, aka a sound driver, but it's not specific to the DAC
@roberth.8807
@roberth.8807 4 года назад
Are the pads easy to swap on ZMF headphones in general?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Yes
@MrKillionare
@MrKillionare 4 года назад
My question is: if LCD-4 is only twice the price, what's the move? I might get a pair of 4's later this week either way, but aeolus was my second choice (I heard both briefly at ZMFestivus last year, both blew me away, but the 4's sounded damn near perfect to me)
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Well the 4 is only twice the price of these if you buy it used. In that case yeah, personally I'd say, worth it as long as you cna handle the weight
@jumpman1823
@jumpman1823 4 года назад
What headphones are you wearing during the video? Just curious.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Sennheiser HD 380 Pro, used as a real time mic monitor
@jumpman1823
@jumpman1823 4 года назад
@@metal571 thanks love your videos. You deserve more exposure than RU-vid gives you. Cheers.
@sleepyrhythms6668
@sleepyrhythms6668 4 года назад
I included a 2.5mm cable in my Atticus order so I could drive it with the es100 when I'm not home because I'm a madman
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
lol I had to buy an XLR female to 2.5mm balanced adapter for mine
@chronometa
@chronometa Год назад
I'm late lol. Are these the universe suede? Or the BE2 suede?
@metal571
@metal571 Год назад
Original review was conducted with the stock Aeolus leather pads, which aren't the same as universe leather but almost the same
@wichiewichie
@wichiewichie 3 года назад
I think I’ve watched this review at least 7 times, along with many other headphones reviews, and still can’t decide between buying a 2020 LCD-2F or an Aeolus. My head says to buy the Audeze and use eq, but my heart says to buy the beautiful ZMF and not worry about eq-ing. Any recommendations?
@metal571
@metal571 3 года назад
Just wait. The X and XC just got a retune and new pads. Maybe they will be retuning the 2F as well. Even after a number of years now, even though I feel like I made the right choice, I still kinda want an Aeolus still... so good
@wichiewichie
@wichiewichie 3 года назад
@@metal571 Thank you! 👍🏻
@metal571
@metal571 3 года назад
@@wichiewichie take a look at head-fi for more info, there's a thread over there going on now about it
@wichiewichie
@wichiewichie 3 года назад
@@metal571 just saw the thread. Looks promising! Thanks!
@gastrogig666
@gastrogig666 4 года назад
This or the HD 800 ?? For overall sound quality
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
HD 800 matches or exceeds the detail here and has a much better stage but I'd rather listen to this natural frequency response by a large margin
@sleepyrhythms6668
@sleepyrhythms6668 4 года назад
Would you say the Atticus is a closed back Aeolus?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Not really. Atticus is more V shaped, with the stock lambskin ori pads on it the mid treble is quite a bit more forward and there's a pronounced midbass hump
@nxtvctm
@nxtvctm 3 года назад
Aeolus vs an used pair of LCD-3?
@olimphus26
@olimphus26 2 года назад
one thing about the aeolus compared to the 6xx is that the aeolus makes me forget the soundstage is pretty bad and I just go with the music whereas when listing to the 6xx im always thinking about that lack of soundstage.
@metal571
@metal571 2 года назад
Yeah I know what you mean now that I own my own pair
@Knifetography
@Knifetography 4 года назад
👀
@MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING
@MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING 4 года назад
Them wood cups tho
@MrBattlestar10
@MrBattlestar10 4 года назад
you say you have few headphones, which ones if i may ask?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Right now Mobius and LCD2 are the daily drivers
@RADERFPV
@RADERFPV 4 года назад
@@metal571 You should review the....anything. We'd love to see you back sometime, even if unrelated to audio. Hope you're doing well and staying safe metal.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
I'm great. Much better now that I'm not doing YT anymore. Not you, but the community at large is so amazingly toxic still that I do not ever want to return to doing this. I also like NOT having a second job, which is exactly what reviewing feels like. It isn't fun. When it became torcher to even think about turning on my desktop to record one of these, that's when I knew it was definitely, truly, over
@RADERFPV
@RADERFPV 4 года назад
@@metal571 I totally understand, and am glad you're doing great. Thanks for the reply.
@akshat3516
@akshat3516 4 года назад
Autuer and aeolus are pretty great,I only wish it had better technicalities for the price, l700 and even the hd800 kill it in that aspect I think.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
The frequency response of those are way less realistic sounding though so it's an interesting give and take sort of thing
@akshat3516
@akshat3516 4 года назад
@@metal571 Yeah, I agree what you said.
@bigyeetus2866
@bigyeetus2866 4 года назад
I mean hd 800 has broken upper mids though that can't really be fixed, and the soundstage sounds way too big with a lot of songs, technicalities aren't everything.
@skedra7079
@skedra7079 4 года назад
They aren't Universe pads, they are Aeolus pads. It sounds different with universe pads.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
The perf suedes are universe pads. Zach chimed in on one of the comments here to confirm the stock pads actually are Aeolus specific pads. I wasn't sure but you are correct about the stock pads. I was just surprised as you can't seem to order Aeolus pads specifically on his site
@skedra7079
@skedra7079 4 года назад
@@metal571 Yeah the suede are universe (I own aeolus), also I got the suede pads and since this weekend also the universe lambskin perforated pads (which I like the most, kinda like a hybrid between stock and suede).
@soulfulfool
@soulfulfool Год назад
Metal I summon you! Where are you lol I need your Atrium review
@metal571
@metal571 Год назад
The channel has been retired for some time now, and you can see that on the final video. Even when I was still reviewing, it's extremely difficult to get my hands on ZMF review units. They just don't make that many units considering they are all built by hand by woodworkers
@SoundWaveTrax
@SoundWaveTrax 4 года назад
I think the words you're looking for are natural or balanced. No headphone is fully neutral. I find the treble on the HD600 (and the similar sounding Sennheisers I guess) too bright for my taste but mostly after 10K. It doesn't follow the Harman target at all there and with the noticeable grain (after some listening) on bright music, like drum and bass, I begin to hate its slight harshness even though I initially found it quite airy and impressive on jazz and acoustic.
@kirjuschaks
@kirjuschaks 4 года назад
For treble/upper mid organic timbre hd600/hd580 with silver cable. Even Summitfi Cans like hifiman he-6 can't match this, nor the sucessir hd650 can. If you want darker sounding cans: HD650 and ATH r70x are your friends.
@zeek781
@zeek781 4 года назад
for an upgrade to the lcd2 classic, would you recommend this, the auteur. the focal elex, or the hd 800s? i use my headphones for music, all media, and all sorts of video games also i have never really bought from a smaller company like this, is it ok to do so? will i get just as good support if i need it as would from a bigger company for example? i know it sounds weird maybe, but i have hard time spending a lot of money on a brand i dont much about
@N3ukenInD3K3uken
@N3ukenInD3K3uken 4 года назад
When is the next livestream ?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Do you guys want that? I guess I haven't bothered doing a live Q/A in a long time
@N3ukenInD3K3uken
@N3ukenInD3K3uken 4 года назад
@@metal571 what's more fun than to embarrass the already awkward host with wildly innappropriate questions ?
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Jesus, Internet
@kkjthouttunkal
@kkjthouttunkal 4 года назад
can anybody help me to find the best wide soundstage headphone under 200 dollars. i own the samson sr850 which are the cheapest wide and bass headphones.i love to own another better wide sound stage headphone and im literally searching at 3 in the morning to find the cans i need.
@dlrowreverse793
@dlrowreverse793 4 года назад
probably still fidelio x2 for that price.
@sebastianalleyne1073
@sebastianalleyne1073 4 года назад
could you really be able to tell all if these dips/peaks and realism in the frequency response by ear without using measurements
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
Yep, sweeping a sine wave with the headphone on my head and listening for peaks, comparing every headphone back to back with my HD 650, and using the same music across all headphones over and over again are of course a major factor in these reviews. I don't just read graphs, especially not MiniDSP graphs which are very inaccurate above 2k
@sebastianalleyne1073
@sebastianalleyne1073 4 года назад
@@metal571 Thank you for the response, what is the most important part of a headphones sound? the frequency response or soundstage or imaging or transparency or detail or separation etc
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
@@sebastianalleyne1073 all of that is important. For this channel though, I expect aspects of sound that are not fixable with EQ like dynamics, stage, and detail retrieval to be in line with the price point of the product. FR is more subjective and if I can fix it within say 3 dB with EQ to my preference, then I will consider it fine. Or if it's quite bright yet nails the other aspects, I'll still recommend it even if I don't like it personally. Very important to separate personal preference from aspects I don't see as subjective like dynamics, stage, and detail. These are things that you're really paying for and in my experience are totally unrelated to FR.
@sebastianalleyne1073
@sebastianalleyne1073 4 года назад
@@metal571 I see thank you, btw I enjoy your videos alot
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
@@sebastianalleyne1073 Thanks, I really should make a video about the review process and to explain all the terminology I use...eventually
@jekken333
@jekken333 4 года назад
Just wondering when will sennheiser use wood or carbon fibre in their top tier headphones? They're left behind by the competition in build quality department.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
All the German brands seem to have just gone quiet in terms of producing competitive stuff
@jekken333
@jekken333 4 года назад
@@metal571 especially ultrasone. Their products are the weirdest sounding headphones I have ever heard. I don't think they're bad, they're just confusing. Lol
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
@@jekken333 I can't believe I've never reviewed an Ultrasone. Probably because they're provably awful and Tyll has already handled those reviews for me so to speak lol
@akshat3516
@akshat3516 4 года назад
@@metal571 Really? The heddphone from hedd audio with air motion transformer seem to be quiet good and certainly in speakers, German brands seem to be quiet competitive. m.imgur.com/a/SMJGtVr
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
@@akshat3516 I was referring to Beyer, AKG, and Sennheiser, and yeah I know AKG is Austrian but the big 3 have basically fallen
@bunozen1
@bunozen1 4 года назад
Hey there....
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
General Kenobi
@bunozen1
@bunozen1 4 года назад
Thanks Yoda.
@Hinata-vr-is-me
@Hinata-vr-is-me 4 года назад
"More power out of the THX 789..." Ha! That's like saying "more trippiness out of a barrel of LSD." Entirely unnecessary and possibly dangerous.
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
When you're trying to drive things like the LCD4 with EQ enabled, it helps.
@Hinata-vr-is-me
@Hinata-vr-is-me 4 года назад
Interesting. Well, I learned something today!
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
There's also the case of stuff like the HE-6, which commonly is plugged into speaker amplifiers. Don't worry I think I speak for most people when I say the Atom is probably way more than enough power. But I need nuclear reactor level headroom since I'm a reviewer and have to be prepared for any headphone to come along, and some really do need a ton of power
@Nick-s-f
@Nick-s-f 4 года назад
I found the Aeolus to be quite underwhelming. They sound thin, bright and lifeless..
@metal571
@metal571 4 года назад
To me they are very boringly lifeless but very "reference" with the perf suede, but the original stock leather pads are quite warm and soothing
@tmorterlaing
@tmorterlaing 4 года назад
Which pads though? My experience was very different, theyre not dull at all. They have plenty of bass, more than something like hd800 which I consider a lot more dull...
@Nick-s-f
@Nick-s-f 4 года назад
@@tmorterlaing The stock pads, never changed them
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