@@nathansargent8513 Hi! I did reference it a bit in this video. I believe I have an index defined so you can jump to the section on the Tartarus. Give it a look and please ask me any questions you may have. I will be doing a new video on what I use and will get into greater detail. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IpVzlA3SzIw.htmlsi=GJLIWpCHDoNCRyMt

Just to follow up on this. I mainly use the Tartarus for functions not specific to aircraft controls as I use the PointCTRL for that. The Tartarus I use for external views (weapons, aircraft) map view, cockpit view. I use several buttons for opening and closing Open Kneeboard and the native DCS kneeboard as well as moving forward and back for pages and tabs on the kneeboards. I also use the Tartarus to open / close Scratchpad and to add a waypoint to scratchpad from the map view. It has become indispensable for my flying as I am frequently jump to map views, want to see the weapon view, and the kneeboard is used a lot as well. Hope all of this helps you. I have heard that some people use the thumbstick to perform some functions in the F-16 as well.

@@StrIIker-TV that’s exactly what I am planning on doing with it too. Did you use the Razer software to set it up or just map it from the DCS binds? For instance, I have WinWing stuff but I don’t feel like spending my sim time learning a new program so I just mapped it like a regular HOTAS because there are no default WinWing profiles and I don’t want to download other people’s profiles.

@@nathansargent8513 I just use the default key binds in DCS and then program each key on the Tartarus with it. It’s very basic to do so there’s no learning curve. Same idea with stuff like Open Kneeboard and scratchpad. Define the hotkeys for them and then set that on the Tartarus.

@@nathansargent8513 Thing to remember is that the Tartarus keys I think have normal values assigned by default which will conflict with other DCS key binds. So just use the Tartarus software. I think I even show it open in that video. To set a new key value, you press the key in the software and then press a key on the keyboard (or multiple keys).

I thought the same thing when I bought it. I was disappointed when it didn’t have it but was happy when I learned how to fix this.

Are you referring to the OBS capture window? I assume that you can see the game window from DCS? I’ve seen this before and I think I had to exit DCS and OBS and then restarted and recreated the capture source in OBS. It should not be black (obviously) once you select the window from the list of active windows.

Hey thanks! I'd love to get up in the sky with ya!

Thank you for your very kind words. I am happy to hear that I was able to help you out! There’s so much out there and it seems like it changes monthly! Happy flying.

You need to go to their RU-vid channel I think. I believe it’s mentioned in some of the paperwork which you get with it.

Also their website I believe has the instructions. Not many ship with paper instructions to be honest. I got my Virpil Apache Collective and it only had a QR code to go to their web site.

@@StrIIker-TV figured it out, thx

Heh! Yeah it is a bigger platform however it looks bigger I think than it is. The left and right side consoles are not much wider than the throttle. I did intentionally want the horizontal surfaces on the left and right as I use PointCTRL to interact with the aircraft in DCS. I wanted something physical to put my finger on while I press buttons, flip switches, etc in the cockpit. This is the same for the front panel which is what I find I use the most in terms of resting my finger on it. You can see this happening in several of my other videos where I have a picture in picture view of me interacting with the cockpit. Here's one as an example time stamped to start just after the intro..ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gWxrynTIfSA.htmlsi=JcDNjgUzLgN_JQuY&t=45 As for getting in and out, the front panel is out of the slots and rests against the wall directly in front of my simpit. There is sufficient room for me to step on and get in front of the seat. I do need to straddle over the control stick and lift my leg to get over it and sit. It's a lot easier than it sounds. The left panel easily lifts out and I am making a helicopter collective one which I can slide in for when I want to fly helicopters. Yes, there are more compact ways to do this. I had originally looked into using the extruded aluminum frames but that was very costly. To make my simpit it was around $130 or so (I can't recall what the price was, I think I mentioned it in the video). and I can easily modify it when I need to by cutting some wood, or removing something and drilling it into a new spot (both of which I have done) with little to no additional cost. I did have to buy another 10 foot 2x4 board for the collective mount as I ran out of scrap wood and that cost me $5.00 US.

@@StrIIker-TV I wondered the whole time what that wooden plank in front was for! xD now I get it. I still try to figure out how to get in control of all the switchology. Its quite a battle to find a way to map all the switches. I like my stuff compact and representable in the room, painted the wood I used in black too, also I have nice black aluminum rails. With wood you can play a litlle bit, with aluminum-rails your shit needs to fit first try or you have too much expenses, but it is rewarding afterwards, you can always grow or change your basic setup with little effort. You mainly have to think how to get it done with the least amount of material, that way it stays affordable (and minimal). I think your setup could have been done too with aluminum for reasonable price, the nice thing is you can add in things like joints to integrate a door or easily get a little lean to that front plank etc

@@StrIIker-TV maybe I have to add that good wood is expensive in my area. 130$ would have bought me like 5 shelve planks and a few 2x2"s, so using aluminum was overall maybe about only 30% more in cost.

@@dortywings7217 Yes wood prices will vary. I was able to get that large 4 feet x 8 feet sheet of 3/4" plywood for around $50 (I think).

@@dortywings7217 I have no doubt that a better job could have been done. As far as if *I* could have done better.. well, this was my first project working with wood and no real plan other than general ideas. I very definitely suck with woodworking. I've seen so many other projects (including some inspired by this) which look infinitely better. Maybe when I rebuild it, I will make it look better with some nice looking angled cuts, routed edges, etc. But, the good news (for me) is that this matched exactly what I needed and wanted. Being able to move it on the wheels has been so helpful and the modularity allows me to disassemble it and move it from one room or floor to another with no tools needed. When I sit down and put on my VR headset, the whole mess disappears and I am in my selected aircraft cockpit.

I bought it! I wasn’t sure how much time I will have for it plus I’m a sucker for newer and shiny with gadgets to do my work for me.

You won’t regret it! BTW, been meaning to ask you how you like the FFB stick setup? Been reading some stuff and everyone seems to love it.

Thank you for such high praise. I know what you mean about taking time to set up! It took me many attempts and a lot of time to finally figure it out. Their documentation sucks to put it bluntly. It’s part of the reason why I made the two videos.. to help others struggling with the same issues I faced.

Ugh. That’s damn ridiculous! Reminds me of the nightmare I had with HTC when my Vive controllers failed within warranty. I don’t know what you’ve tried but for some companies, you need to keep contacting them, requesting escalation to a manager or higher tier technician, etc. Ultimately, I got my HTC issue resolved when I took to social media and started posting about it and including the company (@) in my comments. It’s tough to find a company with great support. For me, Virpil has done just that. You may want to investigate the quality of Winwing’s support and their products before committing to that company as well. It may be more of the same if not worse. Hopefully they have addressed it.

Hah! I will admit that when I watch the video, I laugh when I talk about the stripping and yanking etc. Yes, I am immature! But regarding those wire strippers.. I can't tell you how many wires I have stripped over the years doing DIY stuff at home for repairs or installing some fixture etc. It was always a hated thing because I'd screw it up and drag out half of the wires or cut too much etc. Then I saw this on a video once where the person had these and had to get one. What a difference. What can I say.. I loves me an easy stripper! (take that how ever you want.. and you'd be correct in my intent) Thank you also for your compliment!

@StrIIker-TV seriously though, you got a new subscriber. Inhale one question just from reading the comments and I might be interpreting incorrectly, are the two software packages owned and operated by one person or is there a website?

@@thesouloftheinternet4829 So there is a website which I linked in the Video Description. SimShaker has two components. There is the SimShaker for Aviators which is free. This can be used for people who own the Jet Seat vibrating pad. I really like it. It has 8 motors which vibrate like a massage chair pad however they are activated and controlled by the software. The intensity, frequency and positions correspond to what the aircraft you are flying does. This software is maintained by a guy who goes by F410. He adds new aircraft as they come out if and when he gets the new module. People sometimes donate a new aircraft module to him. The second part is Sim Shaker Sound Module which is owned and maintained by Andre. Andre also is the one who sells the JetSeat pad. He's a nice and helpful guy. He also happens to be living in Russia so there's some challenges around getting the software license (and buying the jet seat if one wants that). If you can't complete the transaction on the website due to sanctions, you need to contact him via his email which is on the website and he can make arrangements with his friends or family living outside of Russia to handle the transaction etc. I think at one point, Andre handled all of the software or was partnered with the other person some how. I don't know the back story but both have been doing this for years for the DCS community. I got all of my stuff in the before time.

Heh I hear ya man! I stopped reading Hoggit on Reddit for the most part because it's full of speculation and people trying to stir the drama pot with FUD and misinformation. I will keep my Strike Eagle and will fly it in the unfriendly skies in DCS as long as I can and I'll post videos to watch and potentially help others. I am hopeful that the two parties involved will come to a resolution for this and everyone can move on. I'm still waiting for someone to start a campaign of protest where they change their Reddit avatar to something.. ;-) That's usually the trendy thing to do these days isn't it?

Hi! Thank you for your compliment. It was a lot of fun. I can always blast around the sky at 23 000 feet in the Strike Eagle and drop bombs safely and then hop into the Hornet to toss some HARMs at any of these SAM sites which threaten me, but I do like to try to use the Strike Eagle to handle all of these threats. It makes me learn the systems and be creative. As for the drama, I avoid reading the non-stop flow of outrage from half-informed people. We don't know with certainty what's happening between Eagle Dynamics and Razbam. What we heard from Razbam has obvious bias and motivations to sway public opinion in their favor to apply pressure on Eagle Dynamics. Eagle Dynamics was typical business statement stuff which is what should be presented from both parties.. but here we are. Eagle Dynamics has a small following of people who hate them and so they were only too happy to jump on this drama and rant and rave which then drags everyone else into the toxic stew of misinformation with the spread of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt). As long as I can fly the Strike Eagle, I will and I will make and post videos of the fun times I have in it. I make these videos for myself mainly and share them hoping to be able to help others and maybe entertain people. People are free to stop buying stuff from Eagle Dynamics and to boycott whatever they wish. I don't worry about them and wish them well. :)

Thanks! The Strike Eagle is a pleasure to fly. The server I fly on has Kola right now until we defeat all the enemy forces and capture all the areas.

Yikes that sucks! Sorry to hear that! I don’t know how their customer service is for problems with the hardware but generally I heard good things prior to buying the STECS. I got some help with the configuration fairly quickly from them but that’s the extent of my experience. I have had stellar experience with a hardware issue with Virpil though and would happily recommend them. I’ve heard bad things about Winwing though as they are apparently worse than most to get quality help but maybe they have improved? I hope you get your issue resolved. One thing I might suggest is to join the VKB forums and post some questions there. I got a lot of help from other users on that forum. Maybe also ask on the HOTAS Reddit forums. People there are great and always eager to help out. Let me know how it goes!

My pleasure. I hope it was helpful and enjoyable to watch.

@@StrIIker-TV It was both. And reminded me I've bought VA ages ago and could use it again. Have a nice time.

Already done! It’s under the community tab of my channel. Here’s a link! ru-vid.comUgkx_q5yCIA7r-5LJSqODCpTVsQJR4Mn01Ff?si=P5FcHh5mku_FCS85

He lives in Russia. You can contact him via email (there’s a link I believe on his store page) and he will get you in touch with his friend or relative who lives outside of Russia for the transaction.

Hello, I am using the Varjo Aero. Please note though that the video quality is different from any VR headset used to shoot the video (this is the case for all videos people shoot and post). The recording on RU-vid is created by recording the game window for DCS. It will look different from what is viewed in the headset. Some headsets would have a significantly different quality whereas the Aero's image quality is close to what you see in the video as the lens and display technology of the Aero is exceptional. Again, this is the case will all videos shot while in VR.

I watched your video! It looks great! Thanks for the shoutout.

Thanks! That’s a great idea and I will give it a look. Never heard of banana plugs but will look it up and grab some! I ordered a stronger power supply because the one included maxes at 60 watts (12 v) so I will see how this performs with it. I might make a follow up video with lessons learned and include the plugs in it.

This is a great suggestion! I'm in my basement so I don't have to deal with this issue of escaping vibrations. I may have to do a quick followup video with these suggestions and other observations.

I have the default 12v power supply. I should grab a 24V one (max voltage of the amp). I'll have to try an individual run to see how much of a difference there is.

It's a great setup! You won't be sorry. There is just an issue getting the Sim Shaker Sound module as Andre seems to have taken a few days off. Maybe email him (link on his Sim Shaker Sound License page) and see when he will be back.

@@StrIIker-TV Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I'm sure he will open shop again soon.

Actually, the SimShaker app ran my Next Level pad, so I wonder if the Next Level app I have will work with this, just a thought.

You need two modules. The Simshaker Aviator application and the SimShaker Sound module. The Simshaker Aviator app will not run the bass shakers.

@@StrIIker-TV I emailed him as you said, hopefully, he will get back to me.

I tried the Next Level Haptic seat pad and personally, I hated it. I own the Jet Seat pad (also from Andre / Sim Shaker) and it's so much better. Stronger vibrations and much, much more comfortable. As for the Bass shakers, they are quite good. I haven't tried flying without my jet seat pad but am going to try for a day or so to see how it is. Originally, The Jet Seat was what I considered to be near perfect but it was not very strong (but much better than the HF8) so I put the ButtKicker back on and only used it for weapons release, gun fire, cat shots, landing and some stuff like ground roll bumps and it was a killer combination. I got the left/ right, legs/back positional effects and the "oomph" from the Butt Kicker. The Bass Shakers are much better than the Butt Kicker and like I said, might be good enough on their own (with a left and right side). Even if a person uses just one, I think it's a terrific system. Let me know how it goes for ya!

@@StrIIker-TV Will do

Yeah if you have something solid, definitely the way to go. Having it mounted to the springs like that though feeds the vibrations right into the seat so it’s pretty good. Thanks for the compliment.

Don’t delay! It’s awesome man.

@@StrIIker-TV everything is in my Amazon cart as I write this lol

@@kgod511 man, if you have not been using anything yet.. you are in for a treat. Small issue, Andre who sells the SimShaker sound module is away for a few days so you may need to wait for him to get back. Work shooting him a message or email to see if you can make a purchase or at least find out when you will be able to.

@@StrIIker-TV no never used anything like it you told me to wait to order it till you put this video I’m told by many it’s a game changer lol I’m excited I’m leaving for Utah Wednesday so I will be away for a few days as well

Thanks! This is why I made the video. I had a lot of questions and managed to get some answers and thought I should share it with everyone. It sucks getting stuck and not knowing what to do next.

Hi! Some times I will do the Picture in Picture type of video where I set up my iPhone on a tripod to capture how I fly with the PointCTRL finger controllers in my simpit. The audio recording on the iPhone can be synchronized with the audio from my microphone on my headset via a snap of my fingers (I usually snap twice and cough). I find this sound on both recordings and mark it in my editing software. I can then use it to synchronize using audio and the mark point as the start and it then adjusts the two using the rest of my talking and noises etc. It then generates a synchronized clip with both recordings on it. I can then resize and position one of them to achieve the effect. I also use 6 audio tracks in my video recording of DCS using virtual audio cables (I made a video demonstrating how I make DCS videos where I show this) for stuff like game, voice attack, SRS headset mic, etc. For video editing software, I use Final Cut Pro which is a Mac only program from Apple.

Here’s a slink to that video when I show how I record and edit in case it can be helpful. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0QzupWjvXfA.htmlsi=zzzl9saajy2hSmds

@@StrIIker-TV Thanks Strikes🙏Watching it now actually. I'm interested in your video section. I just bought a nice Emeet 4K cam & was so impressed with the quality & value for money I got another one. Beautiful images, crisp & clear but now the hard part is to try & get one to record throttle & stick & my set up & one capturing myself flying as well. I tried SplitCam which gives a great image but soon as I start flying the image slows & suffers. Trying to record DCS in sim footage & both 4K cams working simultaneously is tricker than I thought. Never used OBS before, so I'm studying that now. Been using Ge Force all these years but the 4K quality cam is wasted in the Shadow Play overlay, doesn't cut it. Thanks again kindly Strikes, I'll keep watching.

@@GazAce I’m glad to be able to help! What might be key is to record the cam footage to a separate device, either local to the camera (if storage is available) or to a separate PC and then you need software which supports multi-cam editing. You could easily sync them up manually and then resize the top video to a window over the bottom video. I add translucency as a personal taste. I had tried the nvidia capture but eventually went with OBS as it offered a lot more choices and flexibility. Keep me posted! I’d love to see what you wind up with.

I see people on now and then but yeah, we are going to be flying from that base for a long time.

Will do. I honestly don’t have much blind to it because I use PointCTRL for any cockpit native actions. Is there a simple way to export the profile? I assume to an image or something?

@@StrIIker-TV you can download the file for your control profile Through the DCS "adjust controls"

@@captain_kirkyt2481 okay I will do that. I do also use several buttons for Voice Attack and SRS. I can get those identified as well to help out.

Thank you! I had fun shooting it.

I use a trackball which I have strapped to my right thigh. PointCTRL is fine for in the cockpit but maps and interacting with menus etc it’s not so good.

@@StrIIker-TV Great video, I enjoyed it. I meant trackball, I have the razer Tartarus Pro on left thigh and a Wacom tablet for Open Kneeboard on the right. I'm using the Wacom tablet to learn by using videos in VR. Later I may change to a trackball though I like the 12 buttons I have on my Razer Naga Pro. It would have been so much better if Razer had put in a trackball instead of a D-Pad on the Tartarus.

@@MaddogMike-444 Thanks! Why do you need the tablet for videos? I use open kneeboard as well. I use buttons on the Razer Tartarus to change to different tabs and pages. I was going to use the Tablet (I have one) but wound up not really using it. The Tartarus with a trackball! Wow that you have been amazing!

@StrIIker-TV I'm using the pen on the tablet to control video playback since a mouse is not supported.

@@MaddogMike-444 Ah! Okay thank you for telling me! I had no idea. It doesn’t support key presses for playback etc?

Bleh! I thought it was finished processing. I just saw a message for the video that the processing is taking longer than usual. When I last looked, there was about 20 minutes left so an hour later I set it to public. I didn't notice that it was still working on it. Well, give it a bit and check later.

Looks like the rendering is complete

@@StrIIker-TV aaaaw awesome, can't wait to watch it soon :D

Hello! Yes they can be used as a rudder (sort of). They are treated as buttons and so can't by default be configured for a rudder. You can use the VKB configuration software and define them as a sort of virtual axis with each press equaling some amount of axial movement. You would also want to bind something to zero the axes as well. Example: Configuring the action of pressing the left finger lift equals 3 units of movement on that axis so requiring more deflection in that direction requires multiple presses. Need to adjust to the right? Press the right finger lift. Gone too far and need to recenter? Press something else (or even define pressing both as equal to zero). I think you can also define pressing and holding as a repeat button press at a configurable rate but I am not 100% certain of this. Someone in the comments on this or most likely the followup video I made had asked this very question. I went to the VKB forums and asked there and I received a quick response which I essentially shared here. It's not something which I have done myself though.

@@StrIIker-TV Perfect! Thank you very much for sharing this tip.

Thanks! I have considered doing the mock panels etc but to be honest, I don't think it would add anything to the overall experience. After a couple of years of using PointCTRL, I am definitely happy with the panel in front. I have discovered also, that for the Hornet and Strike Eagle which are my current aircraft which I fly in DCS, I don't need the side panels, just something to mount the throttle on as when I look down to the sides, I just point with my hand in the air. I do so little on the sides that it's not an issue. The front one does make a difference for me as I interact with it constantly while flying and maneuvering against enemy. I do still give serious thought to getting something which has actual buttons to try. There's someone who sells an upfront controller for the Strike Eagle (and other jets) and has a version for VR with some textured buttons to be able to figure out where you are pointing. www.etsy.com/listing/1367882636/dcs-world-f-15e-strike-eagle-ufc?variation0=3328509902 People in VR who don't have PointCTRL really like it. I wonder how useful it would be though for me. If anything, I do more interactions in the Hornet and the MFD's than I would with the UFC and same with the Strike Eagle so it may have limited use. I've also heard from others who originally had the MFD frames from Thrustmaster before getting a PointCTRL and they have all stopped using them. They did try for a while to keep them and use the buttons but they found PointCTRL just worked well enough to no longer worry about finding them end pressing etc. A motion platform is definitely on my wishlist and I hope to get one some day.

@@StrIIker-TV I Truly Appreciate the depths you fathom in your reply and taking the time...I like your approach in using the blank board w/ VR...I never would have considered that essentially a "blank skate" could become interactive enough to create a sense of emersion on the cheap...my suggestion was that if you decided to go with a motion platform that could jostle your interactive environment (smooth surface) perhaps place some appropriate "feel" button, knobs and switches that you could use as sort of braille to stabilize your selections in the event of a jink or other like manuver where a motion platform may not allow you the precision to avoid "fat thumbing" a button while rolling or pitching. U could sorce some 70's style radio receivers or even several old push-button phones if you wanted something that wouldn't feel like a dissected keyboard in random locations. I was considering actual replica 1:1 scale panels but id consider them useless in VR as you've proven by completely bypassing the functioning panels altogether. Granted most of the H.O.T.A.S. attributes make some switch panels A. Redundant or B. Unnecessary but if your 98% satisfied now my guess is yould be at 99% by adding motion and 100% by adding some actual mock up switches. Again you've proven nothing would have to function as far as spending hundreds in replica panels. Again Bravo!! You just helped some of us decide if we want panels w/o VR or VR w/o panels. Looks like VR+Motion wins vs Motion and no VR. Cheers!!

Hey thanks! Greatly appreciate it.

I use it non stop. In fact, I bought a second one so I have it incase my main one dies and I need to send it off for repairs. I can't fathom flying DCS without it. It's one of the must have devices in my opinion. In all of my videos from DCS, I am using it. I still occasionally do the small window showing me use it. I don't do it all the time because it's a pain to edit the sync video at times. I think this is my most recent video in which you can see me using it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gWxrynTIfSA.html It is so natural to use and yet it makes such a huge difference. The great thing is that I saved a ton of money not buying MFD frames, button boxes, etc. to try to use in VR. I just move my hand to where I want to press something, and the cursor is there! So simple and so incredible.

@@StrIIker-TV​​⁠you know what, that’s a great point. What’s the point in trying to replicate layouts when you can more easily interact with the actual in game layout. Is the Advanced Kit the one to go for? Or is Standard ok?

@@gavancorrigan8813 You WANT the advanced kit He really should just sell that one. You get two additional button banks which you attach to the sides of your head set. I use them all the time. Full warning to ya. The shipping date is far off.. Just order it and forget it. You will eventually get an invoice via email. You can decide at that time if you still want it. If your headset changes, you can request a change from what was ordered. You are not obligated to pay and buy it when you get the invoice so it's zero risk and only benefit if you still want it. I am expecting shipping times to speed up soon but honestly you are still looking at at least a year out before you get it.. probably a bit longer..

Thank you. Just placed my order! I’m new to PC gaming and DCS etc so probably need the year!

Thanks! It’s always fun flying with you so I am looking forward to it as well. I was pleasantly surprised with the video. There were some sections with a lot of head movement which I need to watch for next time as it was quite excessive (when I was looking for the SAM site) and I hate forgetting to turn on the pilot body.

Thanks man! Was a blast!

Yeah, AGR will kick in when you are in auto or when in CDIP and have the HUD in command. I need to double check the specific instances which trigger AGR. I did the same thing and swapped out of auto mode (I think I left it in auto mode or something when I was about to land for some reason). As I got lower while flying in the landing pattern, the stuttering started I at first thought it was OBS (the software I use to record the videos) so I stopped recording (which is why the end is all external shots from a track replay.. which I actually liked). The stuttering persisted so I fiddled with modes, probably turned on the air search radar and stuttering stopped (but I didn't know why). A day or so later, I was on a low level ingress for a loft attack and figured I'd enable AGR by taking command of the hud and immediately the stuttering started.. I quickly switched modes and then back to auto for the loft and all was fine for the attack (and I nailed the SAM site). I think I recorded that mission as well.. One possible solution is to decrease the core count dedicated to the radar in the Special settings for the Strike Eagle. I have mine maxed (I think it's 6?) but I have a beefy CPU so it SHOULD be fine. I might try decreasing it.

Okay so AGR kicks in automatically.. Here's the excerpt from the manual... The AGR mode provides slant range measurement for target altitude determination, target designation or position updates. This mode cannot be selected and is commanded automatically every time the CC determines that a slant range is necessary for proper designation or weapons delivery. It is worth noting that AGR mode interrupts other radar mode operations in progress and should be carefully monitored by the aircrew. These will be described in other sections of this manual, however below one can find a list of such instances: 1. During MAP / NAV AUTO weapon delivery in A/G Master Mode, slant range measurement is required for the last 15 seconds prior to weapon release. 2. During targeting pod designation when laser is not armed or not operational, the CC will use AGR provided that the radar was cued to the targeting pod LOS. To manually exit the AGR mode, the aircrew needs to take command of A/A or A/G radar display. However, this is not possible when slant range is being measured in AUTO weapon delivery as described in point 1.