I do this all the time and didn’t even realize that it is the reason why I always get shield pokes from it lol. I practically only short hop to do shine wavelands so that’s why. Great video
They could! But there 3 important things to think about there: 1. If they’re angling their shield down you now make it incredibly difficult for them to shield drop 2. They’re now exposing the top of their head which could be full hop shine shield poked 3. There are post-shine mix ups that are good (especially if you’ve nullified their ability to shield drop) gl out there
I’m never taking Ginger for granted ever again (going to binge the series) I’m noticing a lot of the same habits I have when I’m up against an opponent who has a game plan when I don’t. I tend to make games a lot closer than they need to be and get desperate.. I need to play to my characters strengths more instead of getting impatient
My assumption is that you haven't watched the video LOL but I can summarize for you I guess: This would poke around someone's shield so you hit their hurtbox that is exposed and also remaining under them causes them to fall into your shine a lot of the time gl out there
my fav thing on yoshis as falco is catching ppl with u-smash who think they are landing safely or mixing up falling through on the plat where it slants down. Usually can catch them with it after hitting those uptilts you had mentioned. Also, would love a vid exploring falco up air and or grabs. Been seeing Mang0 and Magi utilize them so well recently.
Hey guys! Get out there and try this shield poke set up! I've found tons of success with it I'm still not certain how character/spacing/z-axis dependent the up tilt poke set up is, but it was just an interesting thing I found while making the video that I wanted to bring up lol. I hope you guys like the video :)
what about no DI or slight DI's in between? They're just other analagous situations to DI in where you go fine aerial shine crossup/no crossup mixups into more platform followups?
Yes essentially! Any amount of DI out that puts them off stage should be followed up with the SH -> fast fall -> DJ dair and if they do any amount of DI that leaves them on stage then you have some combo choices to make. SH up air, ambiguous aerial shines, laser turn around up tilt, and more!
Mango is certainly the goat and i mean no derision from this comment, but armada made a facebook post and youtube video about this a literal decade ago. There was a lot more falcos trying to shine dair in this situation back then and the shine would turn a combo into a 50/50.
I just scrolled through Armada's entire youtube catalogue and opened every video relating to falco that wasn't an hour long analysis video and didn't see it mentioned. Not because I'd be upset if he has a video talking about this combo as well, but I was curious what his video was like. Maybe you can give me a link. I also never said that this is some sort of new combo that's never been done until mango invented it or something. I'VE known about this combo for a "literal decade" and I even mention in the video that people in high level melee have been doing this for a while. I just wanted to post a video to MY subscriber base of mostly falco mains to help the average falco beat fox a little bit more. Is that okay by you?
