▶ Comparison of TLOTR: The Two Towers 4K (4K DI) HDR10 vs Regular Version 

Astonishing isn't it ?!

@@Mymoonization hell yeah!

I haven't watched it in 4k yet so don't really have an opinion. I suspect that's what PJ always intended that sequence to look like. It is after all potential future vision.

That's the only sceen I don't really like I don't like how he basicly changed it to black and white 🙄

I’m sorry Nejc but it’s not black and white !

There are a lot of scenes (especially in The Two Towers) which just look "aquarellic" and ruin the details. For example when Eowyn watches the flag fly away in Edoras the entire image (landscape in the background, etc.) looks more like a concept art than a movie.

more than a DNR I think it is a very bad upscaled using AI, I remember doing that with my Blu-rays using Topaz Enhacer and it looked better than this.

Wrong Ryan. The source for this Ultra HD Blu-ray release was made from the original camera negative which was recently scanned and cleaned up, with colour correction, at 4K resolution resulting in a new 4K DI. Cheers :)

@@Mymoonization I'm sorry My moonization, but Ryan is actually correct, the Ultra-HD Blu-ray is upscaled from the original 2k DI, it is not scanned from the negative. Unfortunately there is no official statement from Warner Bros., Park Road Post, or anyone who worked on the remaster that said it was rescanned from the negative. If it was rescanned in 4k, there would have been a noticeable increase in resolution, but based on all of the screenshot comparisons online, including your video, the resolution is nearly identical between the Blu-ray and the Ultra-HD Blu-ray.

Well can you confirm what you are claiming because it creates a lot of confusion. Don’t you think ?! However, one thing I share with you is that there is very little difference when you compare the Blu-ray version to 4K. Cheers :)

​@Mymoonization actually, you're wrong. It's a 2K upscale with heavy DNR.... this has since been confirmed

« Like Fellowship before it, The Two Towers was shot photochemically on 35mm film in Super 35 format using a variety of Arriflex, Arricam, Mitchell, and Moviecam cameras with Zeiss Ultra Prime and Angenieux Optimo lenses. Unlike Fellowship, this film was originally finished as a complete Digital Intermediate. For this new Ultra HD remaster, Park Road Post (a New Zealand post facility owned by WingNut Films) went back and scanned the original camera negative in 4K, then upsampled the VFX shots that were finished digitally (in 2K resolution) to create a brand new 4K Digital Intermediate at the proper 2.39:1 aspect ratio. The film’s color has also been completely re-graded from the ground up, a process that included new grading for High Dynamic Range (both HDR10 and Dolby Vision options are available on these discs). All of this was supervised and approved by Peter Jackson. »

It is 4k if you watch this on a 4k monitor. I know I watch these on my 4k TV and see the differences

Need to set tv youtube app settings to 4k or best available and it will play on 4k

It almost looks to me as if some of the shots themselves aren’t that sharp period. Some, especially sweeping landscape shots and characters in-focus at an average distance from the camera, are super sharp on my TV, especially in the second and third movies. Others, like super close-up shots of things and faces, or wide shots of a decent sized area like the tree courtyard in Gondor, weren’t all that sharp in the Blu Rays and are even less sharp now with the DNR. Not in a low-res way, but in an almost out-of-focus way. It makes me wonder whether Jackson used different types of cameras or lenses for different types of shots, and some are better than others. I’m not sure what to think about the new releases as a whole. In some scenes I’ll find myself thinking “there’s no way this isn’t a 4K rescan, there are details that weren’t even present in the Blu Rays.” And then the very next shot will have me thinking “the DNR makes this part look blurrier than the Blu Rays!”. Overall the color and sharpness do look a lot better on my 4K TV. I don’t know if it was a widespread thing that other people noticed, or if it’s just my particular TV, but the old regular Blu Rays look worse on my 4K Tv than they did on my old HD one. The 4K upscaling on it made the fine grain on the Blu Rays waaaayyyyy to sharp and defined, to the point of looking noisy, and the color space on my screen always made the color tint on the Blu Rays look sickeningly oversaturated. I was pretty bummed when I got a new TV, everything I watched looked great, and then I popped in my trusty old Blu Rays of some of my favorite movies ever to see how they looked upscaled, only to find that the upscaling made them look worse! For the most part (but definitely not all scenes) my TV’s sharpness more than makes up for the detail blurred by the new DNR and brings the grain back out again to a nice level, and the new, more subtle color grading gets along much better with the HDR screen as well. Out of curiosity, I plugged my 4K player into my old regular HDTV and it makes the trilogy look about like it does on RU-vid. It’s kind of odd how both versions look overall great on the type they were made for, and look pretty meh on the other. No other Blu Ray movie I own, film or digital, is this finicky in how it looks between my different TVs. Most look almost identical, just a little sharper when upscaled, with a little more vibrance and contrast. It works out conveniently for me though, now I have one set that looks best on the living room TV, and one that looks best on the bedroom TV, and I have no need to get either one out of its respective room ever again.

Dear Boi The Fellowship of the Ring was shot photochemically on 35mm film in Super 35 format using a variety of Arriflex, Arricam, Mitchell, and Moviecam cameras with Zeiss Ultra Prime and Angenieux Optimo lenses. Only about 70% of the film was finished as a Digital Intermediate at the time, as the process was then new and still evolving (the other 30% was finished traditionally on film). For this new Ultra HD remaster, Park Road Post (a New Zealand post facility owned by WingNut Films) went back and scanned the original camera negative in 4K, then scanned the VFX film-out elements (for VFX shots that were finished on film) in 4K, and upsampled the VFX shots that were finished digitally (in 2K resolution) to create a brand new 4K Digital Intermediate at the proper 2.39:1 aspect ratio. The film’s color was then completely re-graded from the ground up, a process that included new grading for High Dynamic Range (both HDR10 and Dolby Vision options are available on these discs). All of this was personally supervised and approved by director Peter Jackson. Happy new year :) !

Wrong Dirk Like Fellowship before it, The Two Towers was shot photochemically on 35mm film in Super 35 format using a variety of Arriflex, Arricam, Mitchell, and Moviecam cameras with Zeiss Ultra Prime and Angenieux Optimo lenses. Unlike Fellowship, this film was originally finished as a complete Digital Intermediate. For this new Ultra HD remaster, Park Road Post (a New Zealand post facility owned by WingNut Films) went back and scanned the original camera negative in 4K, then upsampled the VFX shots that were finished digitally (in 2K resolution) to create a brand new 4K Digital Intermediate at the proper 2.39:1 aspect ratio. The film’s color has also been completely re-graded from the ground up, a process that included new grading for High Dynamic Range (both HDR10 and Dolby Vision options are available on these discs). All of this was supervised and approved by Peter Jackson.

@@Mymoonization alright, like I said, not my experience, but just things I read. Thanks for the response!

@ alright, you say pretty much the same I've heard. There was even proof something "because ratio is the same and therefore it's no new scan, etc..." sorry, can't remember the right quote, something like this, though.

thedigitalbits.com/item/lord-of-the-rings-trilogy-2020-4k-uhd

@ Yes I read it. Hmmmmm....................if what you are describing is correct then we are dealing with bad sources and that bothers me a lot. But do you have the authenticity of who wrote it ? I mean really. Because there is a lot of misinformation on Blu-Ray.com too including their forum. Anyway, we stumbled upon something quite strange. In any case, thank you and we will continue our invitation. Cheers :)

Not at all dear Karim. Like I said on the previous comment, The Two Towers was shot photochemically on 35mm film in Super 35 format using a variety of Arriflex, Arricam, Mitchell, and Moviecam cameras with Zeiss Ultra Prime and Angenieux Optimo lenses. Unlike Fellowship, this film was originally finished as a complete Digital Intermediate. For this new Ultra HD remaster, Park Road Post (a New Zealand post facility owned by WingNut Films) went back and scanned the original camera negative in 4K, then upsampled the VFX shots that were finished digitally (in 2K resolution) to create a brand new 4K Digital Intermediate at the proper 2.39:1 aspect ratio. The film’s color has also been completely re-graded from the ground up, a process that included new grading for High Dynamic Range (both HDR10 and Dolby Vision options are available on these discs). All of this was supervised and approved by Peter Jackson.

@@Mymoonization thank you for clarification. That would actually mean that they went through the whole postproduction of the movies again... Are you sure this was the case, as I can imagine this would be a very costly and time consuming procedure. I was standing a meter away from my 4K TV streaming in 4K and hardly could see any difference in detail. What I could make out I would think came from the color correction. At the end of the day I find this release to be somewhat of a disappointment.

Well Zombi-Man Forgive me but what are you talking about here. What poor image ? If you're happy with your Blu-ray then good for you ... really :) But don't bother influencing people. And I think they are all adults and vaccinated to make a decision for themselves. The purpose of these comparisons is that everyone is free to choose what they want. Cheers !

Ooooh bad boy 😂!!!!!

Lol im talking about the 4k image....my 4k image looks better than the ones you shown.

@@lesstoriesmoomins320 👍

@@EvilComicBookVillain By the way I like those images sorry :)