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In this reaction we take a look at Jon Oleksiuk's video titled: Jesus is God? AI debates Christian, Muslim. Jon sets up a debate between Muslim and Christian AIs, programming large language models to tackle one of the most contentious topics in religious discourse: the divinity of Jesus Christ. Witness these sophisticated AIs present diverse perspectives and arguments, challenging long-held beliefs and illuminating a subject that has fueled theological discussions for centuries.
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@redabeldjerba2221
@redabeldjerba2221 Месяц назад
Christian AI : Good morning ! Judge AI : +43pts.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
Ignorance.
@mocontect8119
@mocontect8119 Месяц назад
So the Quran robot give a direct reference and answer to the questions based on Allah and Isa and the biblical robot never once referenced quotes of Isa him self and 🤣 and the biblical robot gets more points???? 🤣🤣 what a smart and intelligent point taking system 🤣🤣
@Goldsnoopy
@Goldsnoopy Месяц назад
yeah its clearly biased
@Imazighen4life
@Imazighen4life Месяц назад
Biased. The points are utter nonsense.
@sewiiijunior1809
@sewiiijunior1809 Месяц назад
Exactly
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@Goldsnoopyit isnt. Yall just ignorant
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
It gets more points due to Logicallity and Consistency. They literally show why an argument gets the points it does. Are you illiterate?
@Goldsnoopy
@Goldsnoopy Месяц назад
the points dont make any sense , the islam side is so logical so clear while christianity is so flawed and illogical , im sure its biased
@dahah7683
@dahah7683 Месяц назад
It's a Christian channel, their first video is about Christianity
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
Islam is NOT logical. Especially its metaphysics.
@eotfan4982
@eotfan4982 23 дня назад
@@Sagemazewhat is not logical about it? I’m not trying to be rude I’m just curious on your opinion
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze 23 дня назад
@@eotfan4982 its incoherent and more. One example is the God-foot and other body parts of his. The other is the Absolute divine simplicity yet allah enters creation on many occasions wich is Illogical in a absolute simplistic divinity. This are just some.
@MultiDarto
@MultiDarto 11 дней назад
​@@SagemazeGod never have a foot? its structure not the same as any creatures, what part of Islam told us about God foot?? my 25 years of Islam never have any of it, God is Dzat not Zat(material) in arabic, Dzat more close😮blook like the God Particles that've been studied in the Switzerland particle accelerator lab, materium that different than other materium, we ourselves humans and planet, is so small and exist within the God Dzat, thats why Allahu Akbar, God is ever Great
@user-sd6uh3mu7f
@user-sd6uh3mu7f Месяц назад
Amazingly Bible says God never dies but here God sacrifices anyone using logic
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
God didn’t die. Jesus died through his human nature. Stop being ignorant.
@ahiduzzamanahir1338
@ahiduzzamanahir1338 Месяц назад
@@Sagemaze Sounds like something straight out of Hinduism. If Christianity is true then so is Hinduism.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@ahiduzzamanahir1338 superficial ahh argument. Islam sounds like pre Islamic peganism. If islam is true so is Peganism. Like what??😭
@ahiduzzamanahir1338
@ahiduzzamanahir1338 Месяц назад
@@Sagemaze So, do you agree On my last comment? Is there any difference between Hinduism and Christianity? If you answer this I'll answer every question as to why Islam is far far away from Paganism and is pure monotheism.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@ahiduzzamanahir1338 there are? Hinduism beliefs all Of creation is part of the one ultimate divine, wich means all millions of gods are ultimately one, and so is the tree or grasshopper. Thats why they literally worship matter, because matter is also part of the ultimate divine universe. Also, i never agreed with your last point? The only „similarity“ people claim to make is that the trimurty is similar to the trinity, wich it clearly isn’t regarding the fact that hindus believe all is ultimately part of the One divine Universe, and much more, you clearly have no clue about Hinduism and Christianity.
@hello_worLd6104
@hello_worLd6104 Месяц назад
They say its justice for jesus to be killed, but how is it just to punish an innocent person for the sake of the criminal
@yukicherry_
@yukicherry_ Месяц назад
Islam is very clear and logical. I am increasingly convinced of this belief. Allah is the Greatest. Allah is most merciful and forgiving.
@XX-bm4eo
@XX-bm4eo Месяц назад
I’m pretty unfamiliar with Islam. Raised Christian but def not a fan of religion, instead now spiritual. Does not Quran tell people to kill/eradicate nonbelievers?? I’ve heard it does which would seem opposite of merciful. (I’m def not a fan of the Old Testament God either , such an ahole). I think everyone’s “religion” should be based on what they feel is right in their hearts vs what any religion or religious text supposedly says. All answers for each individual should be found within and what they feel is true to their heart. I was very agnostic tho until recent since ayahuasca. I think peeps should do ayahuasca or at least psychedelics (with intention vs. partying) to help go within and have a more open mind. Spirituality > religion
@mokshghangas8793
@mokshghangas8793 Месяц назад
😂😂
@XX-bm4eo
@XX-bm4eo Месяц назад
Yeah are you being sarcastic?? I have no idea what channel this is nor have I watched the full video yet
@OneTruth95
@OneTruth95 Месяц назад
@@XX-bm4eoyeah islam is the truth it makes too much sense. Jesus abraham moses muhammed peace be upon them all were messengers of the One God that came to teach people to stop worshiping idols and to only worship the creator of the heavens and earth.
@GIX-co9cd
@GIX-co9cd Месяц назад
Clown 🤡
@hamodhossain4261
@hamodhossain4261 Месяц назад
its funny how the AI said god need to be justice and that's why he have to kill him self to the sins of people .. (( as if killing your self or your son for the mistake of others is justice )) . i wanna see how that works in court
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 28 дней назад
its not a one to one for the court Jesus is more like the attorney for the defendant
@Kingeroffinger
@Kingeroffinger Месяц назад
Jesus is a Muslim (submit to one true God) Jesus did what Muslims do, for example circumcision, not eating pork, not drinking alcohol, fasting, and praying by prostrating on the ground. And the most important thing is that Jesus was only God's chosen prophet and apostle
@KittuTheKitty
@KittuTheKitty Месяц назад
Jesus was a budhhist he believes in non violence and also opposed animal sacrifice paraying by prostrating does not belong to muslims even hindu woman are only allowed to pray like that.. Genesis 9:3-6 say that eating meat is a concession to human weakness, and that animals are blessed by God and should be fruitful and multiply.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
Fallacious statement.
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 28 дней назад
Jesus also didnt eat camel, prayed standing and looking to the sky and called god father quite the muslim
@ahiduzzamanahir1338
@ahiduzzamanahir1338 Месяц назад
"Without the shedding of Blood there is no forgiveness" This gets a 43+ ?? Where is the logic behind this? These points don't make any sense
@usmanfarooq9301
@usmanfarooq9301 Месяц назад
AI will do what it programed for, so this is meaningless.
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
Maybe for now, but I as I read the emotional dismissive comments, I can sense an egoic fear of future exposure. ITS COMING 😱
@usmanfarooq9301
@usmanfarooq9301 Месяц назад
@@stayspiritual AI is at the present time depends on the data gathered by human and programing. It can't do what human brain cell is capable.
@zulfiqarsiddique8598
@zulfiqarsiddique8598 Месяц назад
@@stayspiritual, in your dreams 😂😂
@asadwaqar425
@asadwaqar425 Месяц назад
​@@stayspiritualBro there is no fear of ego, the thing is you can see the truth clearly but you don't want to accept either way
@Ruya-Vision1
@Ruya-Vision1 Месяц назад
@@stayspiritual Yes, you should sense egoic fear of exposure in the future, but you should have more sense egoic fear of being arrogant enough not to accept the truth and follow it earlier too, whatever the truth may be. best wishes. (By the way, according to your approach, it seems that accountants should have senselly an egoic fear of the calculator or computer when it was invented. No, AI is just a tool, the truth is already there.) The real matter is; does God Almighty loves you enough to guide you to the truth or not?? Good luck in your journey.
@7625e
@7625e Месяц назад
I find it fascinating that most of theological points brought up in the vid so far supporting Christian theology wasn’t actually from the sayings of Jesus (pbuh) of the bible from the figure paul and his letter (an individual might i add who never met Jesus pbuh but yet the bulk of the theology is from him & his writings). For me that was one of the most interesting things i learned when studying Christianity and its history & formation
@mbab5401
@mbab5401 Месяц назад
Why would God who so powerful but just can't forgive our sins without human sacrifice? To my knowledge only satan and pagan loves human sacrifice.
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 28 дней назад
ok our god is absolute, hence his laws are absolute and the punishment absolute. God is consistent in justice and mercy where in through the self sacrifice of Jesus gods justice against sin was met for it was through man that sin entered the world and through man it would leave
@mbab5401
@mbab5401 28 дней назад
@@durrangodsgrief6503 so Jesus did lie when he say the only true God is the Father? Now you're digging your own grave 🤣.
@thejimandterryshow-haveyou2444
@thejimandterryshow-haveyou2444 Месяц назад
ha-ha...seems to be where we are going, culturally, technologically, and religiously. What about a hybrid model of belief (blending all thoughts on the topic)? Or the ultimate Choose Your Own Belief adventure? AI religious wars? No casualties (unlike the Crusades), just a chess game of textual sources - but what if the text are the problem? Could be some benefit in letting AI resolve differences? Very interesting topic, guys! And, as usual, your reaction/interaction is what makes your show :)
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
I think we are just starting to touch the surface of this stuff. The next 5 years are going to be exciting.
@sewiiijunior1809
@sewiiijunior1809 Месяц назад
​@@stayspiritualhow is it exciting to know that one day there can be a video of you doing something horrible made by AI , or how the Government will use it to benefit themselves or decieve others? Just asking btw im not worried at all as all decieving paths we humans create will eventually lead us to Jesus killing the biggest deciever of them all The Anti messiah. Alhamdulilah
@user-us9xl1et3l
@user-us9xl1et3l Месяц назад
Christian Ai : Hello 👋 Judge Ai : +44 points ❤
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
It gets more points due to Logicallity and Consistency. They literally show why an argument gets the points it does. Are you illiterate?
@VangolaXProdiGee
@VangolaXProdiGee 29 дней назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze 29 дней назад
@@VangolaXProdiGee read my reply
@abdullhahmed4669
@abdullhahmed4669 Месяц назад
you can simply get the answer by checking which scripture is the most authentic and preserved and Jesus is not his name.
@martin96991
@martin96991 Месяц назад
Authentic and preserved? That's your logic of reasoning? The only thing matters is what's in the book.
@martin96991
@martin96991 Месяц назад
Authentic and preserved? That's your logic of reasoning? The only thing matters is what's in the book.
@OpenYourEyes954
@OpenYourEyes954 Месяц назад
​@@martin96991exactly who wrote the book ..who is john and mark who are those people
@ahiduzzamanahir1338
@ahiduzzamanahir1338 Месяц назад
@@martin96991 What is in the Book? Pure Monotheism and self sufficiency of God
@Thee_Hamza
@Thee_Hamza Месяц назад
@@martin96991if thats the case why dont you believe and follow all fictional books? If i told you i have a book and it says worship monkeys does that mean its true because “its in the book”?? Use some logic. Of course its important to know what is authentic to know what is true word of God and his prophets. you literally described having blind faith. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@sweetkiller1927
@sweetkiller1927 Месяц назад
1- God is not Human /God is above creation 2- Prophets did miracles with the help and permission of God 3- Prophets born without father/mother with the help from God Almighty. 4- We dont know how God Look like. 5- God Will reveal himslef after Judgement Day to His good servants. 6- God cant die nor he can born. Bcs he was existing before us and will exist forever. 7- God gave brain to human to gain knowledge about the His creator and The world he created.but some Human cant understand simple One God but associate partners and Forms , statues , things , spirits with him. 8- They can believe His created unseen Things ( Gravity , forces etc ) but cant accept Unseen God. 7- people will say that we are pray to God through people , graves , statues , spirits but Will not pray to God directly who can listen to u anywhere ,who know ur intensions.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
Superficial arguments with No real grounding. Read into those topics before speaking.
@Maj33y1
@Maj33y1 Месяц назад
I actually watched more of this it's funny how the muslim Ai bot kept on quoting that one verse over and over "They Blaspheme" to the point where it got a little bit ominious and what i noticed is that the muslim AI quoted more of the bible than the christian Ai Bot quoted from the Quran . i never really liked this or entertain this type of videos of debate and like getting angry or spitting on each others like Ha Ha look i shut him up with my arguments but since this was AI i was curious to see how it goes . i watched another one that's non religious of two Ai bots chatting it out just a causual convo turned into this nerding out about Quantum physics 😂 where the hell are we heading !! thx for sharing
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
I agree with you. I'm not much of a debate guy, but I was pulled in by the AI element Thx 👍
@abdurrahimramli4952
@abdurrahimramli4952 Месяц назад
To prompt AI to provide misleading answers, one can manipulate the questioning process in several ways: 1. Ambiguous Questions: Pose questions with multiple interpretations, leading the AI to select a misleading conclusion. 2. Biased Prompts: Embed biased or incorrect assumptions in prompts to steer AI towards a misleading response. 3. Omission of Context: Exclude essential context or information crucial for accurate interpretation, causing AI to answer based on incomplete data. 4. Loaded Questions: Ask questions containing implicit assumptions or implications that direct AI towards a misleading answer. AI responses can be tailored to specific preferences through: 1. Prompt Engineering: Craft prompts strategically to guide AI towards desired responses. 2. Fine-tuning: Train AI on datasets that exemplify preferred response styles to mimic them in future interactions. 3. User Feedback: Refine AI responses iteratively based on feedback to align outputs with preferences. 4. Rule-based Systems: Incorporate rules and constraints into AI programming to ensure adherence to preferred guidelines. For better customization of AI responses, providing specific details or examples of desired styles can enhance effectiveness.
@fhnbhnxirl251
@fhnbhnxirl251 Месяц назад
How can the concept of birth and death be applied to god who has created it for the creation…. And why does god need to sacrifice himself for his creation and how can 3 be 1.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
Islam literally has the same „one in many“ problem bro. The supposed „logical problem“ of the trinity was debunked by the person who made it famous.😂😂😂
@thamergazzaz3309
@thamergazzaz3309 Месяц назад
This is not (AI 🤖). Sorry to break your heart but you can tell from the intonation. These are actually individuals human beings. But the video is so darn cool you guys 👍 Love that you are always creative. Keep it up. Love the rainbow bears Tshirt 😉
@786GG
@786GG Месяц назад
Islam is official Intelligence And Jesus is my son
@Juned120
@Juned120 Месяц назад
Why would God needs to transform himself in human form to sacrifice in order to forgive sins of humans. Why would God himself sacrifice for sins of humans 😂😂😂 makes no sense
@Jacques414
@Jacques414 Месяц назад
Better than Allah that need you to say Two shahadas and kill yourself for him , to forgive your other sins . Jesus was crucified to be an example for us how do we carry our cross in this life with joy and forgive our original sin not our personnal sins . That's why the christian God is better than Allah and Other Gods and ONE SATAN in everything especially in TRINITY and CRUCIFIXATION !!!!!
@merciless4029
@merciless4029 Месяц назад
If it truly is a learning Ai then it would have thought to learned both books then compare then also compare the authenticity of each book it’s preservation the bible has nothing compared to the Quran
@khwajakamran7910
@khwajakamran7910 Месяц назад
Only God is a friend we need not anyone else ✌🏻
@vikiyadav7827
@vikiyadav7827 Месяц назад
Gita says...everything that visible to ur eye and not visible by eye ( including living thing non living thing ,space, water, fire, earth, air ),is part of God. Get rid of 5 disquality in you which is - Anger,Desire,Greed,Attachment,Jeleosly in you then you became one with God.
@SurajChauhan-cy1ny
@SurajChauhan-cy1ny Месяц назад
So, God is so loving and Just but scarifies his SON/Himself or whatever for the sins of others? I thought AI was based on logics............. But looks it vanished like giant Dinosaur
@Abubakarirfanofficial
@Abubakarirfanofficial Месяц назад
How many prophets or god sacrifice thair life before none it means they are not forgives ? If someone is giving same reply it doesn’t means the answer is wrong it only means answer is enough for questions
@thecpt6265
@thecpt6265 Месяц назад
the ai is working with what it has. Texts and their explanations. It doesn't take into account the history, authenticity and other factors that affect this discussion. It treats both positions/books as explicitly truthful divine decrees, eventhough early christian history goes against it, as well as even earlier jewish history.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
All of wich would prove Christianity.
@thecpt6265
@thecpt6265 Месяц назад
@@Sagemaze nuh uh
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@thecpt6265 they do. Pre Christian Judaism was Not Unitarian. The old testament isn’t either etc.
@rigatoni4646
@rigatoni4646 Месяц назад
I don't think AI can replace human intelligence because I use it and I know how lazy and sneaky it can be, worse than humans. It makes up references hoping you won't go check, it makes up plausible points in summaries that are false, but that someone who doesn't know enough about the source material would believe. Even if it ever got to the point where it can be accurate and reliable, I wouldn't trust it enough to delegate thinking to it without cross checking everything, especially for complex topics. And look at for instance Sam Altman. Are we supposed to trust these people to willingly delegate thinking to their products?
@Juned120
@Juned120 Месяц назад
The AI is unbiased but biased is the ones who gives points to them 😂 most probably the scorer is Christian himself who doesn't able to differentiate and comparing moral values with Christian beliefs which makes no sense at all 😂
@pulseofcreation
@pulseofcreation Месяц назад
I love your Islamic videos pleqse react on more Islamic videos ❤
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
Thanks for the kind words 🙏
@dahah7683
@dahah7683 Месяц назад
Both AI's are objective but the jury is very subjective, claiming to be fair but judging subjectively
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
Ai cant be biased on its own. It gets more points due to Logicallity and Consistency. They literally show why an argument gets the points it does. Are you illiterate?
@dahah7683
@dahah7683 Месяц назад
@@Sagemaze That channel is a Christian channel, all the content is about Christianity, it's not even an AI but just a text narrator.
@zhrah1733
@zhrah1733 29 дней назад
For someone to die for my sins in the past this is already -40 how is this logical by default logic is everyone responsible for him herself good or bad like no one owns your money and No one responsible for your crimes
@Abubakarirfanofficial
@Abubakarirfanofficial Месяц назад
Bro this is only ai 🤖 this is limited but human alhamdulillah have more knowledge then ai 1. God is just why god need to sacrifice his life for sinners and what changed after his sacrifice and it is not injustice that father sacrifice his sin for humans sin this is against god attributes 2. In bible mentioned god said to Moses human can’t see god so do you think next generation was better then previous or god was lying when he meet Moses ? 3. God is self dependent god doesn’t need anything to live but Jesus depend on his mother until born and after born also and then he was dependent on father he prayed to god when enemies was coming to kill him if he was god why he need to pray for save him ? 4. God is pure did Jesus didn’t eat and drink? 5 . God didn’t have begaining and end but Jesus everyone know his birth time I have more questions I will ask later just give answers of these questions
@bluechanel1957
@bluechanel1957 Месяц назад
ofcourse if the data you provide is wrong he can arrgu with you according ti that data whaic mean no need of this chat i need to program this machin to tell me what is right what is wrong not to defend about script in some book i hpre you got my point
@Azizullah95th
@Azizullah95th Месяц назад
You guys do know this is useless(mainly because the AI is programmed for specific thing and doesn't have open mind and at the same time we don't know which side is the point giver on)unless someone just want general knowledge.
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
Right now it is still very limited, but for us its exciting to see the evolution.
@jmljamal7717
@jmljamal7717 27 дней назад
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Deuteronomy
@IRABAH
@IRABAH Месяц назад
vry logocal fr any human beings if God has to kill sum1 to 4give sins then it dont show mercy bcz its like paying a ransom but if God say say wen u sins ask fr 4giveness i will 4give u wizout any ransom bcz my love fr u surpass my anger.if we put religion aside n ask thousands of peopl who dont hve anythg to do wiz religion whch make one make God luk more merciful killing sum1 to 4give or just 4give......?
@OscarAcademy839
@OscarAcademy839 Месяц назад
Why did god have to send Himself down to earth to become his own son to sacrifice Himself to Himself just to convince Himself to forgive us??? Christianity in a nutshell 😂😂😂 logic laughing in the corner😅
@Ruya-Vision1
@Ruya-Vision1 Месяц назад
I asked GPT this question. "did Jesus said I am God in those words?" and the conclusion of the answer was: "While Jesus did not explicitly say "I am God" using those exact words, his teachings, actions, and the reactions of those around him clearly indicate that he made claims to deity and asserted his divine authority. The New Testament writers and subsequent Christian theology interpret these statements and actions as affirmations of Jesus' divinity." That means it is the new testament writers and subsequent Christian theology who interpret that Jesus is God. Go ask AI.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
The old testament is very clear that The Messiah will be God. Jeremaiah calls Him YHWH. Isaiah calls him Mighty God etc.
@Ruya-Vision1
@Ruya-Vision1 Месяц назад
​@@Sagemaze So the old testament prophesied a future God (whom will be, and was not God by then)? that is new, where the prophets of the old testament didn't understand or preach what your are saying. Please Stop you make it worse every time. Already every thing you need to review have been provided to you. while you didn't gave me 1) any direct numbers of the Bible that indicates of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were there at the same moment, nothing, or pointing to me where in the Bible does Jesus PBUH said "Worship Me" which is the core believe of Christianity, no answer. 2) Turning Paul's dream to the firmed basic of Christianity, and ignoring the reveled scriptures and teachings of prophets themselves (the absolute oneness of God. 3) How could an eternal father with an eternal son being there in eternity without an eternal mother, and if they were there at the same moment in eternity they must had been twins. 4) Why Bible writers or interpreters are thinking that God was unable to find an analogy to express Himself and this is an incomplete God as His creation is more capable of expressing what He is in a better way than Him. 5) Is the mother of John the Baptist (Christ's aunt) the father's and holy spirit aunt? as they are all one. 6) where is he (Melchizedek), who is without end of life, who is without mother or father? have you or any one else meet him? No direct clear answers from the bible (not the explanations, nor any one's point of view) yet. So until you have a clear answer for those questions. let us depart each other in peace.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@Ruya-Vision1 all you did was superficially repeat everything youve said before. Imma keep this short. You do not need explicit Statements pal, it’s fallacious to assume that, especially when the Qur’aan itself is ambiguous in some places. Jesus accepted worship many times. Such as when Thomas saw him resurrected and called him „my Lord, my God.“ and then the apostles all worshipped him. Also, no the prophets did not prophecy a new God? They prophecised that the messiah will be THE God. Nice strawman there, also literally ignored the references i gave. Want verses? I can give you many non-Unitarian verses in the Old testament. Also, again, the father son relationship is analogous Not literal, why do you limit God to only having a son if he has also a wife? If one is limiting God, its you. And the relationship between The father and the Son, are perfectly represented in that analogy bro, what better should he find? Like all you’re doing is press your Muslim mind unto superficial Points while not even understanding them. And finally, St. Paul is fully consistent with prior revelations and teachings. Unlike muhammed who has no historical nor theological continuity.
@Ruya-Vision1
@Ruya-Vision1 Месяц назад
@@Sagemaze 1) Where did Jesus said "worship me" not the narration of the writers, Nothing. 2) the phrase "Will Be THE GOD" means logically and linguistically some thing in the future that wasn't there at the moment of speaking, even if you precede it with the phrase “the prophets prophesied” or put it in capital letters, the literal meaning is that he wasn't god at the time they prophesied, and indicates that God's changing. Isn’t this a flattening of the superficial straw man mentality? Stop, you are destroying the axioms of logic, reason, language, and superficiality as well. 3) You don't use strawman approach, you became the strawman himself. if you have any reference you just needed to point to them as I put it in numbers. which means "you must have say for number 1 the references are ..., for number 2 ...., etc). 4) Yes, my Muslim mind believes and trusts that God Almighty is linguistically more capable and more eloquent than anyone else to explain what He wants to His servants, and it will not be tempted by logical fallacies that aim to mix pagan beliefs with the concept of the One and Only Creator God. If He were a Trio God, He would say it with ease, or is He unable to say that?????????? And what is worse, He did not know that, and if He knew that, He would have said it. (("" Where IN THE BIBLE HE SAID I AM A TRIO GOD"")) where is His words not your or any one else understanding. Bro, please stop making your situation worse. The issue is not a personal challenge between you and me. The topic is the path to God.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@Ruya-Vision1 1: again, fallacious and hypocritical to require that. And Jesus said „that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father.“ how do you Honor God the father? Through worship 2: THE MESSIAH WILL BE GOD DOES NOT MEAN A NEW GOD BRO. Because the MESSIAH WASNT BORN THEN. It means the messiah will be GOD. Not will become God. It doesn’t mean he wasnt God at the time they prophecised, it meant he wasn’t born on earth then. All you do is commit fallacies. 3: if someone mixes Pegan beliefs, its yall. Islam is Just a heretical form Of Christianity mixed with arab peganism, rabbinical Judaism and Zoroastrianism.
@mohammedjarallah975
@mohammedjarallah975 Месяц назад
listen to yunus aswailis quran recitation
@shanaliali8972
@shanaliali8972 Месяц назад
1 Quran and four Bible
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
Actually I think there are way more then that in terms of Bible translations.
@OneTruth95
@OneTruth95 Месяц назад
@@stayspiritualtheres more then 60 bibles
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@OneTruth9531 arabic qurans bro.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
31 arabic Qurans. Translations ≠ different books.
@OneTruth95
@OneTruth95 Месяц назад
@@Sagemaze no only different recitations but all the same
@walimajdubofficial8292
@walimajdubofficial8292 Месяц назад
Ai Kristen is distracted
@ha836122
@ha836122 Месяц назад
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". God created word, and Word became God, so God created God. How can uncreated God, created God? And in John 1:1 NIV "the word was God", the word was is bound to time. God affected by time? It does not make sense, God was not affected by time. God affected by His creation?
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
Not that it matters to me, for I have no stake in this debate, but try embracing paradox. Not everything is or needs to make sense.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
Even in the Qur’aan, allah entered the world, became a burning fire, and so much more. He also descends every night to hear prayers.
@dark-light934
@dark-light934 14 дней назад
​@@Sagemaze In the Qur'an Allah entered the world and became a burning fire?! What?😂😂😂 i understand Arabic and read the whole quran many times and this is the first time I hear that not just in quran even in hadith What verse in quran are you talking about exactly?
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
The muslims in this comment section are so ignorant if i may say so.
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
We've done a lot of Muslim reaction video's but I was surprised by how triggered some got on this one. 🤔 I think AI is going to make us face ourselves in a whole new way.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@stayspiritual they love if they’re put into a positive light, but every criticism is immediately shunned. No matter how objective or correct.
@Ruya-Vision1
@Ruya-Vision1 Месяц назад
From the beginning Islam refereed to scriptures directly, while Christian refereed to explain what the is in the scriptures not what the scriptures said directly, they Christian didn't even have a direct scriptures that support their core faith, and that continuous to the end of the videos. Let me explain it this way, God vs Atheism. God exist; Believer IA 40 direct scripts, Atheist IA 100 opinion and explanation didn't mean that Atheist is right.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
It gets more points due to Logicallity and Consistency. They literally show why an argument gets the points it does. Are you illiterate?. The Qurans points are not automatically Right. Thats fallacious.
@Ruya-Vision1
@Ruya-Vision1 Месяц назад
@@Sagemaze Hello, Thank you for enlightening me. I just want to know where the logic and consistency are in the existence of an eternal father and son with the absence of an eternal mother, and if they have existed from eternity at the same time, is it logical for them to be father and son, or is it logical for them to be twins? Please explain where is the logic in that? Or ask artificial intelligence logically (away from the Islamic or Christian context), and I asked GPT this question. "did Jesus said I am God in those words?" and the conclusion of the answer was: "While Jesus did not explicitly say "I am God" using those exact words, his teachings, actions, and the reactions of those around him clearly indicate that he made claims to deity and asserted his divine authority. The New Testament writers and subsequent Christian theology interpret these statements and actions as affirmations of Jesus' divinity." That means it is the new testament writers and subsequent Christian theology who interpret that Jesus is God. Go ask AI.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@Ruya-Vision1 they arent father and son in the same sense humans are. Obviously. Those titles are meant in a Analogical sense. The father Begets the son. He is the father, for the son derives his nature and existence from him for all eternity. Thats also one error the Qur’aan makes. It necessitates sexual relations for a son, while mary birthed Jesus without one. They are not „twins“ but the father is the Monarch. The one from whom the other two Get their Existance from. The son is eternally begotten, and the Holy spirit is eternally proceeding from, the father. And again, The bible, even pre Christian scripture, is very clear that God is not Simplistically one, but in fact Multi personal.
@Ruya-Vision1
@Ruya-Vision1 Месяц назад
@@Sagemaze Thank you again, but 1)it is not Qura'an error, it is fact, science and biology, however, it is not right any way, for either God was unable to find an analogy to express Himself and this is an incomplete God as His creation is more capable of expressing what He is in a better way than Him (shame on those creations, let them repent of their belief that they are more capable of anything than a perfect God, if He couldn't? could you?), or this is the place where the influence of the irrational pagan Greeks' beliefs (the head of the pantheon, Monarch Zeus) began to influence. "don't you see?" 2) you said "The one from whom the other two Get their Existance from" that means they were not there at the same moment in eternity, which means that God changes, while God is perfect before He created existence. Malachi 3:6 says, “I am the Lord, I change not.”. Well, who knows better God or some people's bias? 3) If you want to worship a changing God, or show that you are more eloquent and linguistically capable than him, then that is your guarantied freedom of belief, which we respect your and all human full right to believe whatever they want, without trying to offend you in any way, because we have not lost the ability to logically debate and refute your arguments in The topic of discussion without trying to bring up anything else. Regarding what you are trying to explain to me, I think that the true God is able to explain, and humans must appreciate that Almighty God. You can just "if you wnat" point to references that show that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were there at the same moment, and specially where Christ, peace be upon him, told people "worship me" (which became the core of Christianity) without Any explanations or additions and I will read them and follow them myself.
@Sagemaze
@Sagemaze Месяц назад
@@Ruya-Vision1 1: analogy literally means its not identical so no error here. 2: you clearcly Misrepresent my argument here. The monarchy of the father means, that the father is the uncaused Cause for the other two. All three, are still eternal, for all three existed before time. 3: Christ accepted worship in many places. Thats literally one of the reasons he was targeted.
@ismailbakr2496
@ismailbakr2496 Месяц назад
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم In the name of ALLAH the most Gracious the most Merciful ❤ آية: 168 وَقَطَّعۡنَٰهُمۡ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ أُمَمٗاۖ مِّنۡهُمُ ٱلصَّٰلِحُونَ وَمِنۡهُمۡ دُونَ ذَٰلِكَۖ وَبَلَوۡنَٰهُم بِٱلۡحَسَنَٰتِ وَٱلسَّيِّـَٔاتِ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَرۡجِعُونَ 168. And We have broken them (i.e. the Jews) up into various separate groups on the earth: some of them are righteous and some are away from that. And We tried them with good (blessings) and evil (calamities) in order that they might turn (to Allâh’s Obedience). آية: 169 فَخَلَفَ مِنۢ بَعۡدِهِمۡ خَلۡفٞ وَرِثُواْ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ يَأۡخُذُونَ عَرَضَ هَٰذَا ٱلۡأَدۡنَىٰ وَيَقُولُونَ سَيُغۡفَرُ لَنَا وَإِن يَأۡتِهِمۡ عَرَضٞ مِّثۡلُهُۥ يَأۡخُذُوهُۚ أَلَمۡ يُؤۡخَذۡ عَلَيۡهِم مِّيثَٰقُ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ أَن لَّا يَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّ وَدَرَسُواْ مَا فِيهِۗ وَٱلدَّارُ ٱلۡأٓخِرَةُ خَيۡرٞ لِّلَّذِينَ يَتَّقُونَۚ أَفَلَا تَعۡقِلُونَ 169. Then after them succeeded an (evil) generation, which inherited the Book, but they chose (for themselves) the goods of this low life (evil pleasures of this world) saying (as an excuse): "(Everything) will be forgiven to us." And if (again) the offer of the like (evil pleasures of this world) came their way, they would (again) seize them (would commit those sins). Was not the covenant of the Book taken from them that they would not say about Allâh anything but the truth? And they have studied what is in it (the Book). And the home of the Hereafter is better for those who are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - See V.2:2). Do not you then understand? آية: 170 وَٱلَّذِينَ يُمَسِّكُونَ بِٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَأَقَامُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ إِنَّا لَا نُضِيعُ أَجۡرَ ٱلۡمُصۡلِحِينَ 170. And as to those who hold fast to the Book (i.e. act on its teachings) and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât ), certainly We shall never waste the reward of those who do righteous deeds. آية: 171 ۞ وَإِذۡ نَتَقۡنَا ٱلۡجَبَلَ فَوۡقَهُمۡ كَأَنَّهُۥ ظُلَّةٞ وَظَنُّوٓاْ أَنَّهُۥ وَاقِعُۢ بِهِمۡ خُذُواْ مَآ ءَاتَيۡنَٰكُم بِقُوَّةٖ وَٱذۡكُرُواْ مَا فِيهِ لَعَلَّكُمۡ تَتَّقُونَ 171. And (remember) when We raised the mountain over them as if it had been a canopy, and they thought that it was going to fall on them. (We said): "Hold firmly to what We have given you [i.e. the Taurât (Torah)], and remember that which is therein (act on its commandments), so that you may fear Allâh and obey Him." آية: 172 وَإِذۡ أَخَذَ رَبُّكَ مِنۢ بَنِيٓ ءَادَمَ مِن ظُهُورِهِمۡ ذُرِّيَّتَهُمۡ وَأَشۡهَدَهُمۡ عَلَىٰٓ أَنفُسِهِمۡ أَلَسۡتُ بِرَبِّكُمۡۖ قَالُواْ بَلَىٰ شَهِدۡنَآۚ أَن تَقُولُواْ يَوۡمَ ٱلۡقِيَٰمَةِ إِنَّا كُنَّا عَنۡ هَٰذَا غَٰفِلِينَ 172. And (remember) when your Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their loins, their seed (or from Adam’s loin his offspring) and made them testify as to themselves (saying): "Am I not your Lord?" They said: "Yes! We testify," lest you should say on the Day of Resurrection: "Verily, we have been unaware of this." آية: 173 أَوۡ تَقُولُوٓاْ إِنَّمَآ أَشۡرَكَ ءَابَآؤُنَا مِن قَبۡلُ وَكُنَّا ذُرِّيَّةٗ مِّنۢ بَعۡدِهِمۡۖ أَفَتُهۡلِكُنَا بِمَا فَعَلَ ٱلۡمُبۡطِلُونَ 173. Or lest you should say: "It was only our fathers afortime who took others as partners in worship along with Allâh, and we were (merely their) descendants after them; will You then destroy us because of the deeds of men who practised Al-Bâtil (i.e. polytheism and committing crimes and sins, invoking and worshipping others besides Allâh)?" (Tafsir At-Tabarî). آية: 174 وَكَذَٰلِكَ نُفَصِّلُ ٱلۡأٓيَٰتِ وَلَعَلَّهُمۡ يَرۡجِعُونَ 174. Thus do We explain the Ayât (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail, so that they may turn (unto the truth). Holy Quran ❤
@3meervoice-over416
@3meervoice-over416 Месяц назад
First one
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
Welcome
@Tech_Genius01
@Tech_Genius01 Месяц назад
Every religion claims there's more than one god is false god is one allah
@TheTruth-jf8ui
@TheTruth-jf8ui Месяц назад
Satan is also ONE , who told you that the creator accept to be like him ONE ?? That's why TRINITY is the logic ...
@Tech_Genius01
@Tech_Genius01 Месяц назад
@@TheTruth-jf8ui My friend Jesus himself did not preach the Trinity, and he tell you that God is one in many verses. Trinity created by the church invented after the Council of Nicaea. The true God is allah. Even Jesus himself used to say allaha in Aramaic, meaning God. As stated in Islam, you have to Google and verify what I told you.
@TheTruth-jf8ui
@TheTruth-jf8ui Месяц назад
@@Tech_Genius01 jesus said " Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit " ... I'm not Judas to deny the words of my God and trust words of people ... The amazing think in christianity is the TRINITY because it confirms to us that we worship the Creator God and not The ONE Satan, the leader of the devils unintentionnaly
@TheTruth-jf8ui
@TheTruth-jf8ui Месяц назад
@@Tech_Genius01 And yes Dear Allaha not Allah !!! 3 letters of A in Allaha are important because God is TRINITY !!!! And JESUS not issa !!!
@Tech_Genius01
@Tech_Genius01 Месяц назад
@@TheTruth-jf8ui My friend, do not be one of the flock. The church will laugh at you. This verse is inserted like the rest of the verses that talk about the doctrine of the Trinity, such as John 5:7, which they did not find in the oldest manuscripts. Do research about your religion well. We are in 2024. Everything is available. Chat gbt google gemeni. You are not in the age of councils and darkness until you accept what It is said that you are like a blind man. When you die, the angels of torment come to you
@shanaliali8972
@shanaliali8972 Месяц назад
Here is the translation of verse 17 from Surah Al-Ma'ida (Chapter 5) according to Sahih International: "They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, 'Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?' And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent." (5:17)
@ammarfikri5912
@ammarfikri5912 Месяц назад
hahahahaha funny
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
😉
@Jacques414
@Jacques414 Месяц назад
We pray to our Christian God, the Holy Trinity, greater than the ONE Devil, the ruler of the demons, Lord of this world, to have pity on our misguided Muslim brothers and not leave them in the Barzakh , as their ONE ALLAH promised them, and to open for them the door of the paradise and not close the door in their faces forever, as he did with the foolish virgins, so that they go directly to their ONE DEVIL . Whom they worshiped in order to be under his command and console themselves that there were misguided human beings on earth for whom they prayed Surat Al-Jinn. Forgive them, Lord, they do not know what they are doing. Amen...............................
@ammarfikri5912
@ammarfikri5912 Месяц назад
bible books full contradiction..the word of god? are you blind ? or your heart blind?
@Jacques414
@Jacques414 Месяц назад
@@ammarfikri5912 No Dear there is no contradiction when you believe the words of Jesus in New testament and doubt the words of people in old testament , but when you doubt the words of Jesus in new testament and believe words of people in old testament , then starts the work of the ONE Satan and his jinns to let you believe his preferred book and increase the number of JUDAS , the only muslim in christianity . So proud of my Christian God that better then Allah of Muslims and other Gods and ONE SATAN in everything especially in TRINITY !!!!!!
@ammarfikri5912
@ammarfikri5912 Месяц назад
@@Jacques414 read Quran, revert to islam. Islam the only true religion, the truth. i hope Allah guide you to the right path
@Jacques414
@Jacques414 Месяц назад
@@ammarfikri5912 I read it . I don't need a book that talk about earth, especially that the leader of this world is the ONE SATAN and all scientific miracle are stolen from the bible . I need JESUS who talk to me about HEAVEN not who talk about JINN and JANNA .
@Jacques414
@Jacques414 Месяц назад
@@ammarfikri5912 Who Have JESUS don't go to mohammed ! You know better than anyone else that if your book had not mentioned this man whom you call ISSA , no one would have joined your empty religion !!! That's why I stay only with the original JESUS and not his ennemy ISSA that give some value for your empty book !!!!!!!!
@shahnuranik784
@shahnuranik784 Месяц назад
Plz bring the army of Satan series.
@stayspiritual
@stayspiritual Месяц назад
It will be back
@shahnuranik784
@shahnuranik784 Месяц назад
Trimurti of Hindus became trinity for Christians. Around 300 BC Romans and Greeks arrived in India where they dumped astrology on the face of Indians and collected beneficial knowledge in the fields of mathematics and medicine. Looking through Hinduism, which has a "Trinity" the Trimurti/ Tridev/Trishakti usually composed of Brahma/Vishnu and Shiva with other variants which promote female deities too. Around 300 AD when Constantine became the sole ruler after the end of long persecution of Christians by Tetrachy of Roman pagans, this pagan belief of Trinity became a mollification that balanced pagans and Christian belief.
@Jacques414
@Jacques414 Месяц назад
TRINITY in christianity is ONE GOD so differs what you talk about hindus . Our God, Jehovah, in the Old Testament identified himself in the New Testament as what he consisted of when Jesus said, “Go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (in a name, not in names) in order to distinguish Himself from the ONE SATAN , the ruler of the devils, the ruler of this world, and that he is the opposite of him and greater than him. This ONE Satan that loves the night, the jinn, the moon, the lunar time, and snatching souls to himself, and who loves to humiliate human beings whom the God Jehovah created in his image .... So proud of my Christian God that better than Allah and other gods and ONE SATAN in everything especially in TRINITY !!!!
@shahnuranik784
@shahnuranik784 Месяц назад
​@@Jacques414research further. You got plenty of things to look into. Don't be delusional.
@Jacques414
@Jacques414 Месяц назад
@@shahnuranik784 NOT THE SAME !!!!!!!! There isn't a God better than the CHRISTIAN GOD !!!!
@shahnuranik784
@shahnuranik784 Месяц назад
@@Jacques414 that's called ignorance. Truth and sounds good are two different things.
@Jacques414
@Jacques414 Месяц назад
@@shahnuranik784 Trust the rumors that the bible is distorted and don't trust what JESUS said is the REAL IGNORANCE !!!!
@ismailbakr2496
@ismailbakr2496 Месяц назад
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم In the name of ALLAH the most Gracious the most Merciful ❤ آية: 175 وَٱتۡلُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ نَبَأَ ٱلَّذِيٓ ءَاتَيۡنَٰهُ ءَايَٰتِنَا فَٱنسَلَخَ مِنۡهَا فَأَتۡبَعَهُ ٱلشَّيۡطَٰنُ فَكَانَ مِنَ ٱلۡغَاوِينَ 175. And recite (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) to them the story of him to whom We gave Our Ayât (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), but he threw them away; so Shaitân (Satan) followed him up, and he became of those who went astray. آية: 176 وَلَوۡ شِئۡنَا لَرَفَعۡنَٰهُ بِهَا وَلَٰكِنَّهُۥٓ أَخۡلَدَ إِلَى ٱلۡأَرۡضِ وَٱتَّبَعَ هَوَىٰهُۚ فَمَثَلُهُۥ كَمَثَلِ ٱلۡكَلۡبِ إِن تَحۡمِلۡ عَلَيۡهِ يَلۡهَثۡ أَوۡ تَتۡرُكۡهُ يَلۡهَثۚ ذَّٰلِكَ مَثَلُ ٱلۡقَوۡمِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِـَٔايَٰتِنَاۚ فَٱقۡصُصِ ٱلۡقَصَصَ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ 176. And had We willed, We would surely have elevated him therewith but he clung to the earth and followed his own vain desire. So his parable is the parable of a dog: if you drive him away, he lolls his tongue out, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls his tongue out. Such is the parable of the people who reject Our Ayât (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.). So relate the stories, perhaps they may reflect. آية: 177 سَآءَ مَثَلًا ٱلۡقَوۡمُ ٱلَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِـَٔايَٰتِنَا وَأَنفُسَهُمۡ كَانُواْ يَظۡلِمُونَ 177. Evil is the parable of the people who rejected Our Ayât (proofs, evidence, verses and signs, etc.), and used to wrong their ownselves. آية: 178 مَن يَهۡدِ ٱللَّهُ فَهُوَ ٱلۡمُهۡتَدِيۖ وَمَن يُضۡلِلۡ فَأُوْلَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلۡخَٰسِرُونَ 178. Whomsoever Allâh guides, he is the guided one, and whomsoever He sends astray,- then those! they are the losers. Holy Quran ❤
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