10 Differences Between Tiger Thread (Ritza 25) and Fil Au Chinois Lin Cable

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In this video we are looking at 10 Differences Between Tiger Thread (Ritza 25) by Julius Koch and Fil Au Chinois Lin Cable by Maison Sajou.
This isn't a case of which one is better as they both have their strengths and weaknesses but as they are both very popular it's good to compare them side by side.
If you want to buy from Amazon there are some example links below:
► Tiger Thread (USA) amzn.to/2M9FFo2
► Fil au Chinois (USA) amzn.to/2oMLC11
► Tiger Thread (UK) amzn.to/2M8bL3s
There are lots of other threads available and I have no affiliation with either company nor any other thread companies, these are just my own opinions.
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00:00 intro
02:41 1. composition
04:19 2. strength
06:08 3. sizes
09:09 4. colours
13:07 5. appearance
15:54 6. threading
16:40 7. wax content
19:44 8. ease of use
21:31 9. price
22:36 10. availability

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7 июл 2024

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@Leodis.Leather 5 лет назад

Here's a video looking at two of the most popular hand stitching threads for leatherwork and also comparing man made to natural threads in general. I know there haven't been many videos recently but I do have quite a few planned, stay tuned they'll be out as and and when I can do them...

@burningdiamond 5 лет назад

please do maker's central next year!

@fotopdo 5 лет назад

Ian Atkinson what is the best size thread for most standard projects, such as bags, wallets, etc?

@Lexi_Con 3 года назад

Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is so informative and helpful. I'm working on a custom man's leather bracelet (with semi-precious stones) and was searching for the best way to connect the bead strands to the leather strips. One option is to overlap the beads on one continuous leather band, but the client likes the stones as the center focal point (also will look like 2 bracelets on front). Which would you suggest, and would it be wise to sew the beading thread through the leather ends or secure it by weaving through punched holes/slits? I prefer not to use jump rings, crimp tubes, et al, at the connection points. (The opposite ends of leather will be attached with glue-in magnetic buckle clasp.) Thanks, I am brand new to this type of leather work!

@chadheadley78 5 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to compare these threads. You saved me a headache and probably saved me some money too. There are so many options and products out there, it's tough to find exactly what you need sometimes. Keep up the good work, you are an inspiration to many!

@youngendeavour 5 лет назад

Thanks Ian for adding videos of this nature which are extremely helpful for the leather craft hobbyist. Yours are by far the most informative and encouraging I have ever found. I look forward to your continued contributions. Well done mate.

@waytograce 4 года назад

Thank you Ian for taking your time to systematically compare these threads. Much appreciated!

@Mendezfarriercompany306 5 лет назад

It's good to see you even from a vid. I watch your vids often same vids over and over. Good quality cheers

@johndally7994 5 лет назад

Well done, Ian. A new video from you always brightens the day. I thought perhaps you had followed Nigel off the edge of the earth. When I was a teenager I worked with a bee keeper from Yorkshire, so your accent brings back many fond memories.

@erikjensen6503 5 лет назад

Thanks for the great comparison. As a new hobbyist i really appreciate your videos! Keep on making them! Cheers!

@jamesjimmeyer7775 5 лет назад

This is/was a GREAT video packed full of great details. Well done sir!

@jtmag3638 5 лет назад

Finally a detailed look at Ritza tiger thread, and why I’m buying this by default

@joliski 5 лет назад

Thanks for the very good information. I really enjoy all of your detailed videos.

@jerrycallender7604 4 года назад

You've answered questions I didn't know I had.

@mrniceshoes2118 3 года назад

Great informative vid and I gotta say the time stamping it by subject is awesome

@Asenceana 5 лет назад

Hey! Good to see you back. This is a good question to cover!

@kerryg4119 5 лет назад

Thanks Ian for another great informative video. I think the Tiger thread looks great from beginning to end of my stitching. I agree with all of your points.

@kevinjenkins3104 5 лет назад

Nice to see you back good video

@hobbitilius 5 лет назад

Lovely video Ian. Thanks for the great information.

@andrewgray9663 5 лет назад

Nice to hear from you again

@scorpisces182 5 лет назад

fantastic video! I was actually shopping around for thread and came across this video... extremely helpful! thanks for posting this

@altaylor49 5 лет назад

@thatcrazyguy1971 4 года назад

Excellent and informative as usual

@aidandodge466 5 лет назад

Love your vids Ian, inspiring people all over the world to continue their crafting!

@alphanumeric1529 5 лет назад

Honestly try to think about how many leather crafters got there start with Ian's videos. I think he spawned an industry, or resparked one that was about to fade out. It is amazing the impact he has had.

@merquitiedd 5 лет назад

Thank you for this video! You(r videos) have thought me so much about leatherworking, very thankful!

@myvenusinuranus 4 года назад

awesome video. answered all my questions

@rawhideadventures9515 5 лет назад

Great information Ian. Thanks.

@kennethgarzzillorealtorcen5297 5 лет назад

Ian, Thank u so much. I have never used either of these and now I have the knowledge and will start to use.... I have always seen post about Tiger Thread before but never really understood the difference between any thread and now I'm in a better place... Bye bye Tandy Threads.... Thank you Ian...

@godofm3tal1 4 года назад

Its really hard to be that objective when reviewing two products like that. You clearly favor the tiger thread and that's okay, I tend to agree based on the facts regarding them. but you still maintain a very objective stance on both products and convey that thoroughly. Shit like that is what makes your videos golden.

@briancox7534 5 лет назад

Thank you for this, very informative.

@mikeboone4425 5 лет назад

Glad to see you again ,you look healthy that's great, and as always your information was great . For me it's just tiger thread I just make the things for my self and few close friends thanks again don't be such a stranger looking forward to your next video . Happy Trails.

@popscratchie3985 5 лет назад

hi ian i am hoping you can answer my question. when you stitch with ritza threads do you just stitch as normal or do you try to keep the threads straight(flat)

@zaurike Год назад

Thank you, this was very informative.

@Rsama60 5 лет назад

Thanks Ian, I really like this video.

@groseillegrowa3659 5 лет назад

Thank you, Ian ... a very helpful video ...

@ronin5273 5 лет назад

Very useful as always

@derptothemaxclearly 5 лет назад

Good man! Thank you for what you do.

@johnkennedyswenja 5 лет назад

Thank you Ian

@randomscandinavian6094 3 года назад

I love a good video with lots of detail about a very narrow subject! I haven’t tried polyester thread so far. I cringe a bit from a lot of RU-vid videos where they end their perfect beautiful stitch by completely toasting it and leaving a big ugly scorch mark. I might try that Chinois thread as I have given up on finding full spools of 3 cord Crawford waxed linen in different colours.

@EmperorProtects4848 5 лет назад

THANK YOU! recently started to try some linen thread and can't wrap my head around it... also great to see you are back!

@strickostricko 5 лет назад

Florian Ladwig I don’t think it’s designed for wrapping your head. I tend to use it with a needle in conjunction with an awl to sew leather.

@jjjj-jp2ow 4 года назад

@@strickostricko .........

@ThomasWren 5 лет назад

Great video. I have used both threads myself and agree with all the points you made. However, for me personally, the argument between man made plastic thread and natural fibers has swayed me towards the linen, and I know linen production isn't the most eco friendly process but it is better than plastic and the chemicals needed to dye it. I have tried to find other suitable natural threads but to no real avail, there are other linen threads out there like SoMac, Barbour or J.Wenzel but they just don't have the colour choice.

@porfido 5 лет назад

Ian, I'm very glad to see you online again! Awesome video as usual! I really like Barbour linen thread in 18/3 and 18/5 sizes too... Don't you use it?

@nownot6875 5 лет назад

You, Sir, are the man!

@DeanO 5 лет назад

Great discussion. It's so hard to get Tiger thread here in the USA without paying big money

@keith90102 5 лет назад

Thanks Ian!

@cavtroopermunoz 5 лет назад

Thanks for this. I've been using the thread that they have available at Tandy, which I've found nothing wrong with, but it's good to know my options.

@alphanumeric1529 5 лет назад

I don't know what you're making, but you really should try out Tiger thread. I'm betting that if you did the math Tiger thread is cheaper, and is so substantially better than Tandy's thread a comparison doesn't even make sense. Tandy thread is good for about your first three projects, after that, honestly, really, truly, there is no point to using it.

@joemanthei695 5 лет назад

It seems like some of my colors of Tiger Thread do not have as much wax as others. My red & yellow - I use the beeswax block on those to add a wee bit more wax. I use a thread zapper to finish off my stitches. Works slick... Thanks for a great video. I am going to give the linen a "look/see" one of these days.

@ericmckay5954 5 лет назад

Thank you

@pfitz671 5 лет назад

Love both threads but I'm starting to get away from the tiger thread. At some point it will have a twist or kink that will make your stitch line look off. Haven't had that problem with round threads. Vinymo and Yue Fung Button makes excellent thread as well. Also the tiger thread doesn't come in a size that's good for watch straps and other small goods. 0.6mm is just to much. They need to step up their game and make some 0.45mm and start selling some better colors...lol. Nice to see you back.

@guidelineuk 2 года назад

Nice one For the head's up 😎👍🏽

@KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally 5 лет назад

Great video! Could you do one on different kinds of needles?

@Leodis.Leather 5 лет назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y0EL7K2NhYs.htmlh05m18s

@MuseLeathercraft 3 года назад

Thanks Ian! 👍🏼 G

@usernamemykel 2 года назад

Wishing you a healthy and happy new year! QUESTION: I will be attempting to restore my dad's dried out, stitch-rotted, 50 or so year old briefcase. The briefcase measures approx. 14x10.5x2 inches. I bought Tandy punches, 3.5mm. How would I determine what size needles and what size thread, as well as the minimum length of thread I'd need, for a traditional saddle stitch around the entire briefcase? Thank you !

@buckporter3391 4 года назад

I'm needing to replace broken thread in a pair of leather suspenders. Been at least 40 years sin'ce I've done any leather work. Any suggestions on how to determine the type and size of thread as well as needles to buy?

@emmycon4514 3 года назад

I bought some of your thread a while back just to try it ( black tiger thread 1mm) and it was superb. Now all my other threads are shite soooo thanks for that!! 😂

@Leodis.Leather 3 года назад

You’re welcome 😂

@emmycon4514 3 года назад

Ian Atkinson hahaha😂😂

@atagualozano 5 лет назад

I really enjoyed the video!! but keep having one question... i understand both are very resistant but for equestrian leather items with are very exposed to friction and movements ( the swing is always moving and having friction with other leather or sewings) wich would be more resistant? ritza?

@Leodis.Leather 5 лет назад

yes the Tiger Thread is stronger and more suited for outdoor gear

@jonaslind9505 5 лет назад

On your website you have a photo of a stunning brown ”Leather Brogue Moleskine Notebook Cover” with orange thread. Do you remember what make and colour that thread is? Thank you for all your informative videos!

@Leodis.Leather 5 лет назад

I think that's probably colonial tan tiger thread

@ageorge7140 5 лет назад

Do you still sell samples of the Tiger thread on esty

@sixpotshot 4 года назад

Excellent, thank you. Quick question(s): can any of these threads be used in a sewing machine? If they could be used on a DPx17 system then which needles would you recommend? Thank you

@Leodis.Leather 4 года назад

You can’t put hand sewing thread in a sewing machine no

@DLSWV 5 лет назад

👍😉. Thank.

@georgeboydratcliff1036 3 года назад

Loving your videos! I've bought some of these finer threads and just can't lock them onto the needle. They're so fine it's almost impossible to get the needle through the middle of them. I've even tried 'untwisting' them slightly to get the needle through the different 'cores threads' - but still it doesn't seem to work. I've tried a few knots, but they're either too big and stop the needle going through, or wreck the holes! Any ideas? Or is it just practice I'm lacking?! Thanks in advance!

@Leodis.Leather 3 года назад

Lay the end flat on your bench take a modelling tool and squash a bit of the thread flat then stick the needle through the flat bit starting it while it is still on the bench. I don’t think untwisting it works very well.

@georgeboydratcliff1036 3 года назад

@@Leodis.Leather Brilliant! Thank you Ian - I'll give it a go!

@texasliam 5 лет назад

I want to make marine use utility items. Repeated wetting and exposure to sunlight are an issues there. Any comments on that?

@Leodis.Leather 5 лет назад

You need a synthetic thread like the tiger then, natural threads would rot I think

@texasliam 5 лет назад

Update. Tenara thread made by gore, PTFE. impervious to salt sun and chemicals. I’ll update you when I get it in and try it out. It’s horribly expensive.

@konstantinNeo 3 года назад

Any comparison to the Vinymo Mbt threads?

@Leodis.Leather 3 года назад

Don’t use it so no idea.

@Stoney327 5 лет назад

Ian I do not like the Tiger thread? I used it 2 or 3 times and it was nothing but problems. i still have a roll of it laying in my tool cabinet. When I first got a sample it seemed like the best thing I ever used, but when I bought an entire roll it was a nightmare! Within the first 3 stitches I had pierced the thread and it's not as easy to deal with as round thread. If I pierce round thread, I can usually pass the needle back through the hole and get it through the thread, but NOT with Tiger thread because it's flat braided? Once you pierce that stuff; you're basically dead in the water, there's no going back and untangling it. Just my personal opinion. A lot of people LOVE the stuff. I'll stick with my round linen. Thanks for the informative video, great work as always. Stoney

@Leodis.Leather 5 лет назад

you shouldn't ever pierce thread as every time you pass the needle through the hole you should then pull back on the thread to check that it hasn't happened, once you get into that habit it'll never happen again :)

@222rjb 5 лет назад

I have used both linen and Ritza. I have also made thread with linen. Piercing can happen and does with both. As Ian points out pull you thread back when you pass your second needle through and it ends the problem.

@ex3qtor 5 лет назад

When you pinch the thread around the place you pierced it braiding will loosen up and you`ll get big holes in the thread. Just wiggle the thread and pinch in and you can easilly back up. But this should not be a problem with proper stitching technique when you pull the thread that might get pierced.

@joemanthei695 5 лет назад

Stoney327 I use Tiger Thread all the time. My wallets hold together like iron. If I pierce the thread accidentally, I just snip off the needle - pull it out and re-attach the needle. I do try to not pierce by pulling the other thread to the side but it happens. Tiger Thread is the world's strongest hand stitching thread...

@Stoney327 5 лет назад

Joe I agree. the stuff is like Iron. It was just such a nightmare to use "for ME." Maybe one of these day, I'll drag it out and use more of the spool, but I doubt it. I bought a small spool of the "Cigar Brown." Actually, I don't do that much modern knife work anymore. I specialize in 16th. and 17th. century; period correct, Black Powder shooting accessories, mostly knives, and for that I use artificial Sinew. Thanks for the reply Joe. God bless: Stoney (Dave)

@surfearth1 4 года назад

Do you have a video with examples of thread size and it’s use on different projects? Great video!

@Leodis.Leather 4 года назад

Such info is on my website

@julla1416 2 года назад

When you draw a diagram, please write the type of the thread under the image so we know which is which and don't have to go back and forth in the video to find out where you say it.

@lesliethaxton4843 4 года назад

Any help on the differences between finishing a line of stitching with each type? Cutting it and hiding the ends?The melt and "mash" with my lighter works for Tiger thread, but 332 au chinois is baffling me? do i tie an overhand knot and thread thread zapper it? I love the colors of the linen so i reallllly want to solve that. Thanks! I love your videos!

@Leodis.Leather 3 года назад

Watch my new stitching tips video when it comes out