"This is a gun. Can you guess which hole that goes through? That's right! It goes in the square hole." This is the reason kids need that kind of toy when growing up.
You seem to have it mixed up, Twitter users aren't sentient, that implies consciousness and awareness of your surroundings, as well of your own existence and the implications that come with it
I believe, that as a Lawyer, he knows when he can insult someone and be sure he can prove in court, that it was not an insult, just a statement of a fact 🤣
Yeah he's legitimately mad about this one and righty so, the purpose of this safe is too important to be this flawed, and it made it past WAY too many people for this company to be taken seriously when it comes to firearm security.
As far as I know, gun safes are mostly a scam, because more often than not they're just used as a pretext for the owner to avoid accountability in case something goes wrong. They mainly serve as an excuse for the gun owners, in case the weapon gets stolen or misused for something sinister, to claim they had duly stored the weapon in a safe. The actual security of said safe is of no concern in the matter.
@@TheSmokePope You only calling particular product a piece of shit, I would also say this particular product made by piece of shits. People who make terrible designed products are piece of shits
LPL has never worked under a Manager, attended a job interview, or rented an apartment. Landlord: "The only way you'll get your security deposit back is to prove you never entered your apartment!" Manager: "I had to let everyone else go. You'll have to do all their work without a raise. Just be grateful you still have a job!" Interviewer: "This is an Entry Level position. You need at least 5 years of experience!"
I work in IT, and my co-workers and I often talk to clients about the dangers of outdated security practices and technologies. One of our favorite analogies when it comes to demonstrating how broken security can be worse than no security at all is to say something along the lines of, "you've been dutifully locking the door every day but ignoring the gaping hole in the middle of it." I never thought I would see such a perfectly-designed real-life example of the concept.
The locked gate securing precious kiddos can be defeated with a piece of string or a Skinny Guy(tm) like me (6'5" 260lbs) squeezing through the gap . It's all security theater.
Wish my uncle were still alive, I'd show this to him lol. He was always talking about how gun safety was a big priority, but then bought the absolute stupidest crap to "secure" his guns. As he was bragging about his new gun safe, I picked the cylinder lock using the edge of a strip of small staples as a tension wrench, and set the pins with a tack. As he's going on and on about how I'm wasting my time and I'll never get it open, it opens.
LPL: ... a full-sized handgun. That's important. Me: What, does it not close properly - LPL: _reaches his entire hand into the massive hole_ Me: _Oh no._
Me: hmmm why is he highlighting the gun being large? I wonder does it stop the drawer closing properly and not licking, does it interfere with the mechanism. I notice it has a threaded barrel maybe that pokes onto the latch….. oh even though it’s a big gun you can just pull it out, wow
@@pj4433 Yeah I was wondering too if the gun would prevent proper locking due being too big, nope it seems the makes of this "safe" just forgot that having a big hole in the door kind of makes it useless, even doors with windows on them (or metal framed glass doors) have glass covering up the holes in them.
Its amusing the reviews the safe currently has are mostly complaining how fast the keypad batteries die. None of them have figured out the handy backup opening hatch yet, lol
i'm nearly speechless. I was actually thinking "I bet the weight of the 'full sized' handgun causes it to pop open when mounted under the desk", but this. Bloody hell.
This is why channels like this are so friggen important. To show how many companies rip people off with cheaply made garbage. This company should be embarassed if they don’t know and if they did know then that’s just criminal
@@JamesSullivan-ru4opu guys could address the problems that lead you to the feel of needing guns in the first place. They are not the solution, just a patch keeping you from solving the real problems
@@TheDasHatti you going to get rid of sharp and heavy objects, cars? Also the 2nd Amendment was to uphold the constitution. The reality of the world is there is no fix, protect yourself or don't, it's up to you.
I like to think this was intentionally made for those places that are, by law or something, required to have a "safe" but don't actually want the gun to be locked.
Honestly this seems like they tried that and the knob/digital panel/fingerprint scanner manufacturer fell through. They could at least JB Weld in the panel through, for goodness' sake
@@OdiumTV This was my first thought too...the drawer was probably straight out of a small cabinet or something and they just replaced the lock mechanism with a fingerprint lock.
@@Kenny__UK @BigArmBoss There's a not-oft-used / older slang sense of "to lick" which means "to (soundly) defeat", so it could work. Not sure LPL will be adopting it any time soon though.
Your video caught my attention, and I love the way you present ideas. It’s clear you put effort into your content. Excited to see what else your channel has in store!
@@thexanderthemander might work in some places in the US, but definitely not in Canada. Even if you use a bank-quality safe you can still be charged for not having your firearms secured if someone gets their hands on them due to poor planning on your part. Eg. Going out of town for a week and leaving your house unmonitored. Our instructor had a massive gun collection and one of his friends was also a collector, and went on vacation. Thieves broke into his house and spent a couple of days getting into his gun room. He was charged for not properly securing his firearms when he reported it because it was known he had guns, so anyone knowing he was away had the time to go after them.
@@cannibalholiday Canada is ridiculous these days. Like the two guys who got arrested on a train for talking to each other and someone got offended and told the police.
There is an old Andy Griffith show where the bank robbers crack the safe. Sherriff Andy is really happy because the bank lost the combination ago so they just cut a back door into the safe. I think that show's writer designed this safe.
1:03 I have to note as well, there's a lot of wiggle room in this thing. You want a locked box to be a solid block with seemingly no way to pry it open. Not something you can destroy with the back end of a nail hammer.
My experience with engineers: the handle was originally steel with locking tabs only accessible on the inside. My experience with management: an off the shelf plastic handle is cheaper, so will save money and sell more units.
Checks out. "Sir, the safe design is tested and this thing is airtight!" "Great, how can we cut corners?" "On a device designed to secure a lethal firearm, sir!?" "CUT. THE. CORNERS!"
I was looking at the door when he jiggled it and thinking "he's just gonna give the door a good pull and the lock will fail", can't believe the actual failure point was even dumber.
For when you want it to look safe if an inspector comes, but also need fast, discreet access because there’s a reason you keep it hidden under your desk at work. 😅
The real terrifying part would be someone not knowing this, put this in a home and their kid manages to get the handgun out and... You can see how the rest would go on.
@@antiyouthie 100% agree, military grade just means lowest bidder who meets minimum specs. And those minimum specs usually are lower than one might expect.
LockPickingLawyer: "It is legitimately hard for me to imagine a sentient being that is this dumb and still breathing." Me: "I take it you haven't met my coworkers."
Last week my coworker asked for help, she was trying to add a new thing to the website, ignored all obvious ways to do so(like manage pages/routes) and instead wound up in the configuration changing random values. We had to roll back the changes because she'd broken so much. After telling her not to change it again and showing her the right area she claimed she understood and went back to her desk. 10 minutes later the site was down again after she changed the config again. I sat next to her and told her exactly what to do step by step, the number of times I had to tell her to stop or no because she started going off trying to change random things or clicking random buttons had me dreading today. Some people are just dangerously incompetent and yet somehow still find work.
@antoniodominguezjr4734 you really haven't been around people in general have you? Cause if you do, you'll meet and see some dumb motherfuckers. Hell, just a couple weeks ago, I saw some dude walk out of their car into the middle of the highway. Their car was broken down in the middle lane. Literally so dumb you don't know how they're breathing. It's inevitable when you go online or go outside that you'll see dumb.
LPL has been humiliating MasterLock for years... so today when he says "Nobody could be that stupid", this can be taken as the highest level of insult!
I really have to imagine there are a number of bloopers to get that scene right. LPL could be superhuman in regards to getting things correct on the first try but my god is this something that is an extra level of creating a new idiot.
thief 1: “there’s a hole in the safe, reach in and take what’s inside!” thief 2: “that’s too stupid to be anything but a trap. let’s move on” designer: *success*
@@swapnilmankame If your kids are young enough that they can't be taught gun safety, I'd say leaving them home alone hopefully ends with you in prison. If they are old enough and you just didn't teach them, you're not being a responsible parent nor gun owner in the first place and have bigger problems.
The best part is that this might well happen with the first thing someone does to try to get a locked drawer open. Pull hard on the handle, * pop *, “Well that was easier than expected”
The casing looks so flexible (like cheap desktop PC case metal) that I'm sure you could just insert a pry bar into the top and flex the top edge to clear the latch anyway. Amazing.
"It's hard for me to imagine a sentient being that's both this dumb, and still breathing" Me first few seconds: Thats too harsh. Me after seeing the issue: That was so polite.
@@huntedperson3147 or they slapped an existing lock on an already made drawer with that massive hole inside. You just write to the contract in China and they make sure to ask "you want item X put on item Y right", yep just do that, I want 1000 of them. "Okay boss."
Looks to me that they were thinking about making the safe easier to manufacture and completely forgot that would inherently make it easier to disassemble.
And I can see the design team trying to argue "But you would have to KNOW the handle comes off" (Then proceeds to shut the drawer and the handle just falls off). "Just ignore that"
@@MrLind87 Well, they dont really need them, it is just some stupid requirement that no one cares about most likely. So they get cheapest crap they could find.
that's the harshest you'll hear from him, a man who's seen a lot, faulty locks, ridiculous exploits, excuses from lock and safe manufacturers, people challenging him to open locks and giving him more time than he needs, people sending hin lingerie for his wife, people sending him (a lawyer) stolen property, and so on, and so to hear him utter such a crushing line such as that is an indication that you're in rock bottom's basement, there's only upwards to go from there
The worst thing about this is that someone trying to pull it open by force will automatically rip open the plastic thingy and get easy access to the gun inside. It's crazy, merely pulling on the handle will defeat the gun safe. What the hell.
Yea - definitely - first thing a thief would probably try to do is grab the handle and give it a yank and the handle just pops off revealing a big hole. Course even if not for that flaw it looks really easy to pry open with a crowbar - which is probably the next thing a thief would do.
@@bubba99009 I saw a pretty significant gap open by just him lightly pulling the handle. I can't imagine how easy it would be to break open by just pulling at full force. You could either just pull it open or pry the metal back with little effort without ever knowing about the handle vulnerability. This thing is a real piece of crap.
I was expecting him to just pop the drawer open by pulling on it with his hand. The handle coming off from pulling on it was second on the list. I'm actually a little disappointed that he used a crowbar.
That handle design is used on quite a few drawers, filing cabinets etc. In my experience after opening it a few times, you might ACCIDENTALLY break into it.
There was just a story in the news about a toddler accidentally shooting another toddler. Gun safety is the biggest factor with owning a gun and so many people either do not lock up their guns or they do it poorly. A product like this could so easily be circumvented by a child, for example, and the design being intended for under a desk means it's potentially easily within reach of children.
@@HumanPerson_finalsay what you will about Australian gun laws, but the fact that owners are required to install a heavy duty gun safe before they’re allowed to buy a gun really goes a long way to preventing accidents like this.
Once again we lost good bite of lockpicking thanks to capable engineers. Truly unpickable safe they got there... since we dont have to even try to pick it...
any flat instrument would bypass the locking arm just like on a normal door. It's not even flat but an angled blade to make it both easier to close and easier to pry out of the way.
@rrmordikay lol I'm not. Just stating how incredibly cheap it appeared when the handle was jostled. Metal lock boxes from Walmart have better build quality.
@@aliciacarr9014 What if the gun just shrunk due to cold temperature? Huh, didn't think of that, huh! Of course, I'm just joking. I mean, a gun would shrink in cold (and expand in hot) rooms, but that would be at such a minimal scale that it wouldn't affect any everyday situation.
In general, when LPL doesn't show something twice, it's either that it's trivial that it's a glaring flaw or it's trivial that it's not easy. The latter is exceptionally rare.
I wouldn’t call it „insult“. We‘re taking about a gun save. Each toddler can get a gun out of this un-safe. Imagine a 3 year old take a gun out of this save…trigger…
His insulting words are beaten, by far, with the video he showed with them. You can mute the sound, and it will still be an insult to the product designer.
Unfortunately you are absolutely right. Imagine your coming home, expecting a kiss from wife and „baby“…open the door…your toddler is standing with a gun in her hand and your wife has a big hole in her head. You will complain yourself the rest of your life: Why I bought this „safe“.
I like how when you checked to make sure it was locked you had to not pull to hard on the handle because you know you could have just pulled it off wihtout the prybar lol
@marsovac I have a theory. In English "should have" is pronounced like "shoot(h)av(e)". Therefore, if someone never reads books he just hears "should of". Does that sound reasonable?
Absolutely. Not only is it harder to open those blister packs, I'm willing to bet you could use one of those to open this "safe". The prybar was overkill so he could show us his product (and he's already used everything from a drink can to packaging to a binder and even a lego man).
I still remember seeing at Walmart a tool designed to open blister packs. I am sure you can correctly guess how the company packaged the tool. That's right, a blister pack.
@@kbramlett6877 If I were the marketing people for that tool I would have made sure it was the hardest blister pack ever to open. and it would have said, "This is the last time you will have to deal with this." on the package.
Maybe not. I suppose you heard that one of the mid-tier gun safe producers issued a recall of approximately 60,000 safes. It appears that a youth gained access to a firearm locked inside and killed someone.
This is the most savage I’ve ever heard LPL be to a lock manufacturer If LPL kept his cool through the awful locks we’ve seen on the channel before, Toriexon should be deeply, deeply ashamed of themselves. To get this reaction, they’ve fallen far below even Masterlock.
I think it's especially strongly worded because the exact flaw here is so severe given it's intended use. A cheaply made lock will perform its function of detterence adequately, but this 'safe' probably wouldn't adequately deter a toddler, and you're supposed to be able to keep a deadly weapon inside. As much as I get that adult americans have a right to bare arms, this probably shouldn't be extended to curious 3 year olds.
LPL is an avid gun enthusiast (check out some of his & B Bill's shooting videos?) AND an avid Gun Safety advocate... His rips on gun securement products are heartfelt IMO... (Comes from having children in the household, I suspect...)
The only thing I can think of as a reason would be that the point of an under desk safe isn't to keep the gun hyper secure, its to keep it available while you are at the desk but secure enough from kids or common foot traffic wherever you are. Its supposed to be 1 step up from just having it in a regular desk drawer. The access in the front could be a fail safe if the electronic lock were to ever malfunction, if someone desires access over security. The handle would be hiding it from kids or any office foot traffic that would ever look at it. Thats all I've got as even a posssible idea here....
I feel like it would have been more secure if you put the gun inside 2 Ziplock 1 Gallon Freezer bags, and then used Scotch Tape to afix it to the underside of the desk. It would legitimately take you longer to open that way...
I'm pretty sure he's at his angriest when bad security design leads to people getting access to guns that shouldn't. Stealing a bike or breaking into a shed is one thing, but accessing a firearm is incredibly dangerous.
Master makes locks for mass market, that if they were not branded as high security, serve most people’s purposes. This a “safe” for a deadly weapon so that only the intended person can open it, and the handle is what you just saw. Not only is the hole big, but the handle comes off with next to no effort. Gun locks should be high security baseline, most aren’t, and this is an utter failure.
It's actually a dummy safe. You're meant to stick your hand in there to try and grab what's inside, but what's inside is PAIN. And a Bene Gesserit appears next to you with a Gom Jabbar.
That flaw is almost better than what I thought it was based on the thumbnail. I thought that hole was where the gun got locked in place for quick access, but with the trigger and magazine unprotected could fire while it was locked in that position.
I agree the flaw probably is intentional, and I think this is an issue with a few other gun safes you've demoed. The aim isn't to protect the gun. It's for compliance, in jurisdictions where the law requires that guns be stored securely in a locked gun safe. That's fine for sporting or hunting guns, but people who own guns for self-defence reasons have an obvious problem: When there's an intruder breaking into your home, you don't want to be fumbling with a combination lock in the dark. They want their gun stored loaded and ready to grab at a moment's notice. So they look for these deliberately insecure safes - ones they know they will be able to open with a whack in the right place, even with the lights off and head foggy from interrupted sleep. As the gun enthusiasts like to say: "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."
I love that LPL took more time to introduce the gun he was using than it took to open the safe. - The level of care is reflected in the scathing review and that's what I appreciates about him.
Thanks LPL, I didn't see a problem with this design, went and got myself checked for a traumatic brain injury as you've suggested, and managed to catch it early enough that I can still get it treated. Saving lives in more ways than one.
I started cooking my instant noodle cup before watching this vid.... after the entire vid the noodle is still not cooked.... this gun safe has reached a new level of incompetence
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