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1977: the first campaign setting, Judges' Guild Wilderlands, and why it still Matters 

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Once Upon a time Bob Bledsaw asked TSR for a license to make supplements for the then-young Dungeons and Dragons. The Runaway success of the City-State of the Invincible world, and the campaign setting around it, the Wilderlands of High Fantasy, paved the way for Greyhawk, Mystara, and eventually the grandeur of the Forgotten Realms and Eberron. But what is this strange beast from a wholly different era of Tabletop RPGs? What can we make of it?
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@kevinm3428
@kevinm3428 Месяц назад
I was just recommended this video, and I’m a huge fan of Judges Guild. As a 10 year old in ‘77, my friend and I collected everything they printed, as it was released. I’ve been playing campaigns in this setting for decades, and thoroughly enjoy the granular detail, and its vague descriptions of 100’s of locations, allowing me to flesh-out what the player’s show interest in. Their module Tegel Manor is the finest haunted house ever created. Great video!
@Kunstdesfechtens
@Kunstdesfechtens 4 года назад
I loves me my Wilderlands. Great pitch for the setting. Arguably the best hex crawl setting of all time.
@fairytalejediftj7041
@fairytalejediftj7041 5 лет назад
I've been having fun with a city-state versus city-state, low magic vibe combined with high fantasy races. I like when someone can play whatever fantasy race strikes their fancy, but low magic keeps the focus on characters and emerging narrative rather than gearing up.
@RichardKurbis
@RichardKurbis 5 лет назад
Interesting to recall... back in my Secondary schooldays (1978, I was 13 and we were playing D&D and all these new games) I ran a game where players were exploring a hexmap I created, and reported their moves every lunchhour, they would recruit and create their own parties as they encountered/negotiated/battled/captured... and even competed against each other (as each player controlled a single party/faction) It lasted a good portion of the schoolyear and was a lot of fun "GM'ing" it and filling out their maps as they went on. We played a lot of these fantasy games a lot differently than you guys do today.
@johnnybigbones4955
@johnnybigbones4955 5 лет назад
Cool, I love the Wilderlands, and there is not a lot of discussion about it here on RU-vid. Good for new gamers to be introduced to it. I have the 3.0 update, printed out into a big folder, and it is a great skeleton to fit the flesh of a game around.
@davidmegarrysdungeon6046
@davidmegarrysdungeon6046 5 лет назад
Nice video. I actually linked here from Bob Bledsaw's facebook page, he was ecstatic to see this well done piece. i love seeing more of the old products being featured as well, so that newer gamers can find out about them and the depth to which the early authors went in creating game aids. Have you done one on City State of the Invincible Overlord yet? Just an FYI, WOHF was not the first RPG campaign setting, but likely the first published D&D campaign setting. MAR Barker released what likely influenced everyone else with his Empire of the Petal Throne in 1975. It was both a D&D clone and a world setting on an alien planet. It had an entire planetary map, two big fold out sheets in full color on plastified paper, along with a map of the City of Jakalla. Barker being a linguist went so far as to create languages and alphabets for his setting as well. It is also the first Sci-Fi RPG contrary to what most people believe. I would also question the idea that WOHF was played as a board wargame. BITD (1977) every group I knew played without minis, for the most part, relying more on what has come to be called Theatre of the Mind. - Griff
@The_CGA
@The_CGA 5 лет назад
I was aware of EPT and Tekùmel; the assertion in the voice over narration is only "the first campaign setting for Dungeons and Dragons," insofar as EPT was its own standalone game, I believe it to be an objectively correct assertion. Subjectively speaking, the Wilderlands also have an emphasis on actual play and the end-user as a "campaign tool," and in many respects pioneers the genre. As far as hex and counter wargaming sensibilities, please see Richard Kubris' comment, below, for what I mean by that. In brief, the sort of campaigning which often has a "zoomed out" sense of time and scale; where individual Characters being role-played in the first person is not in the fore, or at least stands alongside acquisitive and even competitive bookkeeping-simulation. Nothing wrong with that, and something I'm known to enjoy.
@davidmegarrysdungeon6046
@davidmegarrysdungeon6046 5 лет назад
@@The_CGA Ahhh... now I understand.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 4 года назад
The best RPG City ever was Haven The scale of detail and NPC's is insane.
@willmistretta
@willmistretta 3 месяца назад
This is a brilliant teaser for the setting and I do hope you'll come back and follow up with it someday. I'm planning a new Wilderlands campaign now using my 2005 boxed set in conjunction with Swords & Wizardry and possibly Michael Curtis' Stonehell dungeon and there is a serious dearth of good YT content out there. That's not to say I don't get it. BB Jr. sucking is common knowledge. He didn't create the Wilderlands, however, and I would argue doesn't deserve to define them for anyone now or ever.
@The_CGA
@The_CGA 3 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it-unfortunately for the moment the setting is currently the IP of an avowed antisemite, and while there was a “serial numbers filed off” version already created by a fan, he’s taken all of his stuff offline in protest/disgust so I don’t have a way to uplift the work of Bob Bledsaw (the original, cool guy author) without lining the pocketbook of the current owner who’s not subtle about where they spend their royalty checks. I had this video unlisted for a few years because of all that, but...I already went to the trouble before I knew all that. It’s kinda cold of me to deny folks the fun/benefit of the work that went into it. I respect folks cutting a different jib, no shade at Goodman games for their own personal choice to keep JG stuff in print. It’s definitely important to keep alive the memory that the Lake Geneva TSR coterie weren’t the only hands creating the first wave of RPG content.
@Raycheetah
@Raycheetah Месяц назад
The Wilderlands were an awesome setting for *exploration!* I ran a campaign in which the players simply sailed a captured pirate ship to explore the myriad islands and coastal points of interest on the maps. There has never been ANYTHING published to compare to that arcane, ruined world, with all the hints of an esoteric history hidden just beneath the surface. And there was plenty of room to add home-brewed content or published modules. Might be time to dust off those old maps... =^[.]^=
@eloyc4245
@eloyc4245 5 лет назад
Excellent start! Looking forward to more!
@derekburge5294
@derekburge5294 5 лет назад
Actually got to introduce some fresh players to the hex crawl style. It blew their minds, not for any exceptional talent on my part, but the raw concept of freedom itself.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 4 года назад
Carse and Jonril from Midkemia are great addition to the game
@mikeburns5184
@mikeburns5184 18 дней назад
I almost have a complete collection. My current campaign is based on the Wilderlands. Actually all my campaigns are based on the Wilderlands.
@SHONNER
@SHONNER 5 лет назад
Well said.
@CTMcGrew
@CTMcGrew 5 лет назад
Really good video and looking forward to those to come. Definitively going to mine WoHF for my own campaign. BTW have you looked at RuneQuest 2? Lots of crunchy goodness there and lots of personality.
@The_CGA
@The_CGA 5 лет назад
Glorantha is on a long term roadmap for the channel, yeah.
@scooppoopins7294
@scooppoopins7294 4 года назад
Will there ever be a part 2 of this video? Would love to see a deeper dive into the wilderlands.
@The_CGA
@The_CGA 4 года назад
I would too! Unfortunately the situation described in the replies to another comment here still persists. I may find a way to untie the knot in my own conscience to move forward with future Wilderlands videos. For now all I can manage is to talk myself out of taking this video down. I’m glad you enjoyed it tho
@wjrasmussen666
@wjrasmussen666 4 года назад
and a set of power armor in ...
@matthewpahnke2613
@matthewpahnke2613 4 года назад
Did you ever make a follow up to this?
@The_CGA
@The_CGA 4 года назад
It is on hold for now because I can't reconcile my conscience to giving any more free advertising to the current owners of the IP because they have been very public with how they would spend any increased earnings. I do hold the original authors blameless and I can and will have more fun in the setting myself in the meantime.. Hopefully that will change on one side or the other in order to follow up on this.
@matthewpahnke2613
@matthewpahnke2613 4 года назад
@@The_CGA I have no idea what you're talking about nor do I care to know. RPGs are a form of escapism for me and I'll buy any products that are fun to play. That said, if it's something you don't want to associate yourself you ought to delete this video. It was really well done and leaves me wanting more!
@The_CGA
@The_CGA 4 года назад
Indeed It was awkward for me composing a reply; I feel similarly as you do, which I why I won’t get into specifics. Once I finish a video it speaks for itself, it is a child apart from me, and I would be loathe to put a lid on it. Notwithstanding all that you are presumedly a human being asking a question and it felt right to give you an honest reply
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 4 года назад
The First Commercial Setting was the Avalon Hill Survival Game Map.
@grimmpickins2559
@grimmpickins2559 4 года назад
Your videos have echoed my experiences pretty thoroughly. I know what a good modern adventure looks like, as do you, but something about the earliest expressions of fan driven creativity supersede the modern grammar checked document. Harn? Judges Guild? Tegel Manor was in many ways more revolutionary than the original Ravenloft, the Wilderlands much more free than Greyhawk would be. So much before the scripted Dragonlance™ approved pap, without the gloss of even an Advanced Player's Handbook. I didn't live it, I came in at 1984, but - EVEN THEN - I knew something had already happened.
@user-pc5ww8fh6d
@user-pc5ww8fh6d Месяц назад
Well RU-vid sure is good at allowing us to necropost :) But considering all the angst for all things D&D recently, it needs to be mentioned, nothing all that great has been made for D&D for decades. Aside from the internet, which allows us to find and download cool stuff from the past. The Internet archive has links to most of the content from Judges Guild. It would be nice if the materials were cleaned up and sold more legit. But as long as you have a computer and the time and interest to clean up the pdfs with a graphics program. The City State and all things connected with it can be old school crude, but it's usually better than the shiny colourful crap being shilled by Hasbro.
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