joel if you just want to talk about the negative things about matthew stafford just because he throw 17 interceptions he is not a top 5 QB then why don't we talk about the negative things about mahomes when he was the worse super bowl mvp of all time did you forgot that did you forgot that mahomes was the worse QB performer in a super bowl in nfl history did you forgot that if jimmy G played decent and didn't play so bad in the super bowl the 49ers would of won the super bowl mahomes is not a hall of famer dude don't act like mahomes has not been in a team with a very good roster put mahomes in detroit where matthew stafford has been in his whole entire career mahomes will not accomplish nothing mahomes has never elevated mediocre players you can't not act like losing tyreek hill is not going to make this offense take a big hit it is tyreek hill is not replaceable if that's what you think
Had to type into RU-vid Jason Preston because I didn’t know who he was, but after my research I now remember he was in that one draft and I had no expectations for him then and now.
Mahomes is NOT HOF if he retires tomorrow put mahomes in detroit hes not accomplishing anything lets not act like he didnt have the best coach top 3 WR Top TE one year stafford was in a great system he won a superbowl 🤷🏽♂️
Just compare this season where they both had good teams but mahomes had more experience with his team matt stafford had more yards with 57 less att more td and higher passer rating he did have 4 more int but ultimately stafford got a superbowl with a new team new system and had a better year than mahomes siding with drew on this one lock it in
The offer for KD was 2 weeks ago and the Celtics declined the counter offer cause they don’t want to give up Smart. Every team probably called and threw out an offer for KD to see what the price is and the Celtics offer going public is just unfortunate for Jaylen Brown’s chemistry with the team. To me the only thing this changes is I think Jaylen would want to leave in free agency instead resign no matter if they win a ring. It just makes him not interested in wanting to play with the Celtics organization.
Bro needs to chill with the Stafford hate, it’s maddening. Stafford is an amazing quarterback that was loyal to a trash team and organization. Stafford would’ve have those “accolades” on a better team. Longevity matters. Other qbs don’t win the super bowl because other qbs don’t beat Brady and the bucs because OTHER QBS are NOT as clutch in the last 2 minutes of an NFL game. Time and time again, Stafford has shown to be clutch, and to even compare him in the same sentence as Carson wentz from this past season is mad disrespectful. You look at the passes Stafford makes and the passes wentz makes. Stafford is like a blackjack player who knows how to count cards while wentz is mindlessly on a slot machine; the touchdowns wentz threw were incredibly risky and overall not smart decisions other qbs would make, and he was lucky to have the TD:int ratio he had. HE ALSO LOST TO THE JAGS TO NOT MAKE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS. Pls pls pls give Stafford his respect you just look like someone who doesn’t watch football with takes like that
I love how Joel and Andrew were discussing whether Matthew Stafford belongs in the Hall of Fame. Joel Dehls, Joel Moran, and Andrew all discussed Matthew Stafford's hall of fame credentials after the Superbowl. Why did you guys revisit the same segment again?
3:04:08 Uh, Andrew, that info was getting out no matter what. Every single deal is logged with the NFL PA and League Office and generally open to the public. There was zero chance that wasn't getting out. The only way to stop it was to not have it in there.
People don’t realize that tatum gets first option pressure from other teams so brown gets to get loose and have more freedom on the offensive end. I love JB but he and Tatum didn’t play that well. They both turned the ball over crazy. But if you could get KD for JB white grant Williams and like 2-3 first round picks you can’t be mad at them for going for it. But I would run it back. They just run the risk of jb being a free agent in two years and people will throw a bag at him.
2:22:42 The reason people go hard on Tua is because in that first year quite a few Dolphins fans went rabid on anyone saying they thought Herbert or Burrow were better. It left a bad taste in everyone's mouths. That's happened with certain toxic portions of Bengals and Chargers fans, but it just seemed quite a bit more prevalent with Dolphins fans.
Rumor has it the Raps offer was in the area of OG and GTJ plus picks for KD. Are you insane Joel, you want the Raps to offer the same package for Mitchell? The Raps have to gave up two starters that can each score up to 30 ppg and both play elite defense for Mitchell and you want them to add picks on top of that? WTF,😂🤣😂🤣 Thank the lord the Raps have Webster/Masai running the shop in Toronto. Funny thing is I don't see you putting RJ or something of value in the Knicks trade besides picks. Lets get real here.
Sammy Watkins will miss some of the training camp but will come back soon it was just a minor hamstring injury. Christion Watson had surgery on his leg so he will miss most of half and training camp
2:18:01 Nah Joel is buggin at this point. Like I was with him for most of the way, but if Mahones retires tomorrow (especially coming off last year) he's not a Hall of Famer. Well, first ballot I guess. The base in Joel's voice makes me think he's arguing Mahomes is a lock first ballot and i just find it ludicrous in four seasons a guy is first ballot. His numbers historically wouldn't hold up and it's such a short time. Especially with his underwhelming performances in both Super Bowls. To me if you don't have six or more years actively playing you shouldn't be a Hall of Famer. Longevity is important. The only real exception is Eli Manning because his two runs were against Tom Brady. So yeah just based on the highs Mahomes is probably in after a couple ballots, but come on, usually a great quarterback should get in on their first ballot. It's not really like other positions where you might wait a few years.
Mavs are the best option for sexton he is a bucket and aggressive attacking the rim playing with luka just helps players, mavs losing brunson a secondary scorer next to luka can hurt them just take a shot on him
@@professorsolo6484 oh give me a break. Paul pierce was one of the most awkward unathletic looking athlete of all time. (Who I’d compare RJ too “with a hint of manu”) Stiff, rigid, unorthodox. Idc. RJ is in an elite class in terms of points rebounds and assist totals in his young NBA career. He is a baller.
On the top shot was that their actual picks for Most Improved or they just going for highlights. Cause if Ant is in the running for most improved that award is just a complete joke now. Ant was a Number 1 PICK. He supposed to be that good
Jaylen Brown does not guard the best player lmao. He does AT TIMES but I saw Tatum and Horford on Giannis not Jaylen Brown. Who spent more time on KD in the 1st round? That would be Tatum. Who was guarding Steph in the finals? That would be Marcus Smart and Derrick White
Matt stafford is one of best quarterbacks in history statistically ...thats just facts i dont know why joel keeps arguing about it for no reason ....dude really argues just for the sake of it .....man trying so hard to be a bargain bin version of skip bayless
@@pickaside yes he is statistically but staffords stats is much better under scrutiny eli's isnt eli's td int is pretty bad...what are you trying to say? ......
@@digontozahid Eli beats Stafford in passing yards and touchdowns and has gone on two super bowl runs while having super bowl MVPs. The Giants weren’t this perfect organization either. He routinely had terrible offensive lines. Nobody says Eli is one of the greatest QBs ever. Stafford definitely isn’t.
@@pickaside eli manning played longer than stafford and didnt miss time for injuries so offcourse he has more tds and passing yards ...stafford consistently had way better singular seasons than eli....what are you even arguing eli is not even in the same tier as stafford never has been ....and long parts of staffords career is still to be written..matthew stafford will be a hofer and all time great by the time he finishes .....you can make all the hypotheticals you want about which qb would have done what but the real fact is matthew stafford proved himself in his very first year at rams with winning the superbowl and having one of the most clutch postseason in nfl history after leaving the worst run team in organized sports you can try to demean it all you want with the hypotheticals but stafford proved his greatness last season he wil keep doing it with a competent organization....people who followed matthew stafford always knew how talented he really was there is a reason lions fans still love him and always will
14:28 “he (jaylen brown) hasn’t learned to dribble yet” Jaylen Brown definitely has above average handles, his package is very comparable to Paul George
